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Do you love Jesus Christ? How do you know you really love Him? Do you have to do a lot of goods deeds to show your love? Please explain with Scripture if you can.

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No Markv, the mystery is CHRIST IN YOU! THE HOPE OF GLORY. Colossians 1: 24-27 tell us exactly what the Mystery is.

That Gentiles would be saved, is no mystery that was hidden, since we see God told Abraham all the way back in the OT "all nations would be blessed through him".
---kathr4453 on 8/10/13


Not only did Elohyim who Exist true just and fair give the "whole House of Israel" the (mind-[levav]) to understand His Work done As Savior, He also gave them the ([Yada]Knowledge to intimately understand Before He declared the "choice to be made" Deut 30 "Life or Death"

*Hebrew perpective:
[Levav] Heart:# 3824, parent root [lev] # 3820
"Mind" (Is 65:17)

#3045 Yada (Knowledge) the intimate ability to perform a specific task or function
(knowedge) [da'at] a noun derived from the verb [yada] meaning..."to know"

Deuteronomy 29:4 "Yet the Lord hath not given you an (heart[lev])- to ([yada]-to know), and eyes to see, and ears to hear, ----
(unto this day.")
---char on 8/10/13


Deut 29:4 (unto this day.") ---

It WAS Given...

Complete Understanding...of What?

God's very ([yada]-personal and intimate (function-action-Work preformed as -Savior)
Proven as follows:

Deut29:5-8 "And I have led your forty years in the wilderness: your clothes are not waxen old upon you, and thy shoe is not waxen old upon thy food."
6 "Ye have not eaten bread, neither have ye drunk wine or strong drink: that ye might know that I am the Lord your God."
7 "And when ye came unto this place, Sihon the king of Heshbon, and Og the king of Bashan, came out against us unto battle, and we smote them:"

The Adversary can not change The Word of God.

To God be the glory.
---char on 8/10/13


Kathr, the joke is that you believed a lie, for so long that you forgot what Truth is. That is the joke. And no matter how much free will you believe you have, you don't have any freedom at all. You are in bondage to sin, and do not realize it. you call the truth a lie, and a lie truth.
The New Testament most common mystery is that God would provide salvation for Gentiles as well as Jews (Eph. 3:3-9). God had told Israel that He would not only call her to righteousness, but appoint her as a light to the nations.
---Mark_V. on 8/10/13


RICHARD, why do you try to prove your point by using scripture spoken to ISRAEL ALONE. Even those in Romans are OT verses Paul has re-iterated concerning Israel.

To always use verses with "THEM" in it, and applying it to anyone who disagrees with YOU is the sign of a CULT, and verses CULTS USE to appeal to the pride of man.

How do any of you calvinists know YOU were given eyes to see? You still can not to this very day tell anyone exactly what you see. That's the joke on you all.

What you DON'T SEE is the Gospel according to the MYSTERY. Romans 16: 24-27.
---kathr4453 on 8/10/13




Romans 16:25-27

25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
( in other words was not made known to even JACOB I LOVED).
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:.

27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.



Calvinists REJECT these verses, therefore are the enemies of the CROSS.
---kathr4453 on 8/10/13


Deuteronomy 29:4 explicitly declares, "Yet the Lord hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this day.", which simply means the "heart to perceive" is of God Almighty and nothing to do with the man's ability to "choose".

Therefore, it's of God to will as He pleases to give the sinner the "heart to perceive", which definitely means the fallen man does not have the ability on his own "choose". If they had the will to "choose", Deuteronomy 29:4 would be rendered a lie.

So why do multitudes say otherwise that it's up to them to "choose" to live or die?
---christan on 8/10/13


Elder, now you say,
"God forces no one to His salvation. To believe He does is to be lost.
Marks concept is to be saved even if ya don't wanna be."

No unbeliever wants to be saved. They do not seek after God. They are lost. Dead in Sin. "For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is at enmity against God, for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God" Did you hear that? Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. If you could choose Christ out of your own free will, you would be able to please God. Do you deny again the Word of God?
---Mark_V. on 8/10/13


Char on 8/10/13 - unto this day -

You said it right there - Very day God opens eyes, It is God that opens mens eyes, Most of the Jews people today do not accept Christ as there savior , Why because God has not open there eyes unto this day, If this is God action, then how can men choose ? except for the remnant,

Joel 2:32 - And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered, For in mount Zion in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord has said, in the remnant whom the Lord shall call,
---RICHARDC on 8/10/13


Two pathways established:

One Straight
One Crooked

That 'Very day' God opened eyes, hearts,ear of the Israelites

Deut 29:4 "unto this day."

Purpose: So both paths that had been established were understood - before choosing
---char on 8/10/13




Deuteronomy 29:4 - Yet the Lord hath not given you an heart to perceive, and eyes to see, and ears to hear, unto this very day,

Romans 11:8 - ( According as it is written,) God has given them the spirit of Slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear,) until this day,

Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of Grace,
---RICHARDC on 8/9/13


Brother MarkV in Christ, if I may give you a piece of brotherly advise in Christ, do not bother to debate nor engage with the enemies of God.

And by that I mean those who oppose the sovereignty of God to which He has mercifully and graciously given to us through His precious gift of faith, to believe with all our heart, soul and mind that He has elected and predestined everything (it's absolute). Especially those to salvation and even damnation.

There's a reason why Christ admonished us, "Do not give what is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces."
---christan on 8/9/13


"I Am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me and I in him bears much fruit, for without Me you can do nothing" (John 15:5). You are suggesting that no matter what God did in eternity past, man still has a free will. Nonsense.

---Mark_V. on 8/9/13

MarkV, you sure pick out the most peculiar verses to try to prove no free will.

That verse has to do with FRUIT, not salvation. FRUIT meaning sanctification.

You always pick out sanctification verses to prove no free will. STRANGE. Sanctification is only for those who are first justified by faith.

When Israel ENTERED the Land, look at the FRUIT that was in the Promised land verses NO FRUIT in the wilderness.
---kathr4453 on 8/9/13


MarkV,there is ABLOLUTELY NO SCRIPTURE that says God chose "CERTAIN PEOPLE" for salvation.

He did choose Israel to be His earthly servants, but we can all see they were not chosen to be saved otherwise ALL Israel would be saved.

God chose Isaac over Ishmael, and chose Jacob over Esau to fulfill those promises originally given to Abraham, concerning the Land for one, and who the Messiah would come through. Otherwise China could insist the Christ came through Chu Man Fu. Get it right MarkV. Stop reading MORE into something than is there.
---kathr4453 on 8/9/13


"He who abides in Me and I in him bears much fruit, for without Me you can do nothing" (John 15:5).
Markv
What about those who choose not to "abide" Mark?
Kathr, Mark can't, and uses his freewill to not, understand Scripture.
He thinks that John 15:5 was written to the lost world.
Jesus was encouraging His disciples here, John 13:31-chapter 15.
Notice Ch 15:11 and ask what lost person has Jesus' joy? None!
Ch 14:12 believing on Jesus is an action that is committed or not.
The rich fool made a choice in Luke 12 so did the 10 virgins in Matt 25. The list goes on.
God forces no one to His salvation. To believe He does is to be lost.
Marks concept is to be saved even if ya don't wanna be.

---Elder on 8/9/13


Kathr, you say,
"MarkV, God having an eternal purpose in Christ has nothing to do with man having or not having free will. What God for-ordained before the foundation of the world again has nothing to do with individual man having or not having free will." Not true. If God choose certain individuals in which He did, man has nothing to say concerning his salvation. God said, "I Am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me and I in him bears much fruit, for without Me you can do nothing" (John 15:5). You are suggesting that no matter what God did in eternity past, man still has a free will. Nonsense.
---Mark_V. on 8/9/13


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francis, so you suggest
---Mark_V. on 8/9/13
I suggest nothing
like I keep telling you: " USE THE BIBLE ANSWER FIRST!"


Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

I am not suggesting, interpreting or teaching. i am quoting THE BIBLE ANSWER

---francis on 8/9/13


so Christan, what is your point. It still says NOTHING about whether man has or doesn't have free will.

Shira, thanks, you are correct.


Faith comes by hearing the Word of God, not by special favor. Even a "simpleton" can understand that.
---kathr4453 on 8/9/13


"Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer,
And He who formed you from the womb:
I am the Lord, who makes all things,
Who stretches out the heavens all alone,
Who spreads abroad the earth by Myself,
Who frustrates the signs of the babblers,
And drives diviners mad,
Who turns wise men backward,
And makes their knowledge foolishness."

Isaiah 44:24,25
---christan on 8/8/13


francis, so you suggest that God found out in time that man sinned and so had to make some changes in His plan, to add man to hell. God gaining knowledge through time, pretty rediculous since He is Omniscient, knowing all things.
God is outside of time. His plan is complete before Him. Nothing is going to change that has already been ordain and written. Jesus was foreknown as a sacrifice for sin before the foundation of the world. I suppose those who would not be redeemed would go some place else other then hell, in the last minute God decided to sent them to hell also. The god you present is not the God of the Bible.
---Mark_V. on 8/9/13


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kathr, I love your post.the only thing I would question is your statement concerning the intellect of people understand God or salvation. it does not take education to understand God's Word. even the dummest of us can be saved without understand why. when I got saved I didn't understand anything. God made so all could be saved without education.
---shira4368 on 8/9/13


Mark_V. on 8/8/13
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

prepared for who: THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS

God did not create the lake of fire for human, human CHOOCE to go there by holding on to sin,a d not accepting teh redeeption and grace found in Jesus
---francis on 8/8/13


MarkV, God having an eternal purpose in Christ has nothing to do with man having or not having free will. What God for-ordained before the foundation of the world again has nothing to do with individual man having or not having free will. Whether 1 receive Christ or 1 bazillion receive Christ, God's plan and purpose will not change a thing. So you think the more saved, means less for you??? Just remember the fish and loaves of bread. Were those who attended counted ahead of time to make sure the 5 loaves and 5 fish were enough to satisfy? Sooooo, let's say 1000 more showed up, would that mean everything is all messed up? Jesus might need 6 loaves and 6 fish? What. How does free will change anything God purposed or for-ordained?
---kathr4453 on 8/8/13


Kathr, another lie. Now you say,
"HOWEVER, if Hell was originally made for the Angels....not man, as Scripture tells us, then there was NO ORIGINAL PLAN for man in hell. Yet we know now in the end man will be there.....but it was never originally made for man."
Read the Bible, so that you do not have to lie, making many assumptions. Here is why you are wrong, because we are told that Christ was
"foreknown indeed as a sacrifice for sin before the foundation of the world " (1 Peter 1:20). Paul speaks of "the eternal purpose" which was purposed in Jesus Christ our Lord (Eph. 3:11). So you are wrong. Sin was in the plan of God.
---Mark_V. on 8/8/13


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---kathr4453 on 8/8/13

Good argument.

---Scott1 on 8/8/13


Francis...thanks .

You know FREE WILL is also explained in that one thing Jesus said....SATAN is a MURDERER and has been from the beginning.

Think about it. If God pre-planned even before the Angels were created to only save an elect group, sending all else to hell, then it wasn't satan who was a murderer from the beginning.

HOWEVER, if Hell was originally made for the Angels....not man, as Scripture tells us, then there was NO ORIGINAL PLAN for man in hell. Yet we know now in the end man will be there.....but it was never originally made for man.

Those who are able to think on a deeper intelligent level will understand, JESUS IS GOD WHO CANNOT LIE.
---kathr4453 on 8/8/13


Kathr, more lies coming out of your mouth. You say,
"to even suggest God's judgement after warning man" God never warn the other nations they were going to be slaughtered. A lie.
Your god is a helpless god, who begs for sinful man's love hoping and praying they will have mercy on him and choose him. My God is God.
Then say,
from before man was created, reserved them for hell specifically, with no hope of ever finding salvation" Everyone needs God in order to be save, because salvation my man is impossible. His Spirit killed many children in one night.
Then say hate starts with,
"
Well francis, if you weren't so stupid"
I have never called francis stupid. More lies.
---Mark_V. on 8/8/13


---kathr4453 on 8/7/13
No offense taken
---francis on 8/7/13


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LindaH, when Markv called God a murderer in another post, I knew then there was hate and bitterness in him. God is not a murderer, and to even suggest God's judgement after warning man is referred to as murder in Markv's eyes, either says Markv understanding of word definitions is very immature, or he is demon possessed to openly blaspheme God., or He does see God as a murderer. God said Satan was a murderer from he beginning.

If in fact MarkV believes that God has ,from before man was created, reserved them for hell specifically, with no hope of ever finding salvation, then markv's accusing God as a murderer from the beginning is markv's god, not the God of scripture.
---kathr4453 on 8/7/13


Kathr, honestly Im beginning to think its a waste of time. He just doesnt get it and Im beginning to wonder if he ever will. Something has made him bitter towards the truth and he will not turn from his new doctrine. All we can do is pray.
---LindaH on 8/7/13


MarkV, is the NORMAL MANNER Calvinism???? Sorry,that will never happen.

Now hate is this. It starts every blog like:

Well francis, if you weren't so stupid, or well Francis if you were really saved, or well francis, since you are an infidel, or well francis, since you lie so much, or well francis, since you don't believe Jesus is God...

Sorry Francis, just using your name as an example here. Every single post of MarkV STARTS WITH HATE, arrogance, pride with FIRST slamming that person "personally" and then expecting a loving conversation afterwards???

And too, MarkV constantly twisting one's words and then accusing of his own twisted words is not LOVE, but HATE, deception, duplicity and down right evil.
---kathr4453 on 8/7/13


Kathr, you say to me this time,
"MarkV, I'm not sure what "hate words" you seem to think are hate words, although you seem to say anyone giving any truth is HATE."
You lie so much about me, that you even believe your own lies are Truth. When you begin to discuss Scripture in a normal manner, then I will know there has been a change in you, and respect you. That is why I said you should take your own advice if your really believe it.
---Mark_V. on 8/7/13


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MarkV, I'm not sure what "hate words" you seem to think are hate words, although you seem to say anyone giving any truth is HATE.

So your definition of hate and God's are two entirely different things. I will stick to God's definition of hate.

We know you love changing definitions of words anyway.

I see NOTHING hateful in any of my posts. Only YOUR constant saying what I post is hateful.

There is nothing more hateful than to tell people they are not saved, based solely on YOUR interpretation of scripture.
---kathr4453 on 8/7/13


Bro. Trey, great answer you gave. If only it hit some on the head around here, but the Truth just goes right by them. Thank you for answering the question. Blessings to you and peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 8/7/13


Kathr, you should take your own advice when you say,

"If you say you LOVE God but hate your brother, you are a hypocrite."

Your hate words are well know here on line by many, yet you do have supporters. That always happens. There is too many who believe and support your free will theory, which is now taught in many pulpits. Salvation without faith, Jesus Christ not the eternal Son of God. And how about all the lies you say, when you say I deny that Jesus came in the flesh. Slandering a brother is sin, punishable by death.
---Mark_V. on 8/7/13


Hi MarkV,

Mt25:37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
Mt25:38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
Mt25:39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

The truly righteous don't do good works to gain heaven, they do good works because they've already gained heaven through the finished work of Christ! He's made the tree good.
---trey on 8/6/13


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How do you know that you love God?"
Because I do, that is why I believe by faith in the God of the Bible.
---Mark_V. on 8/6/13
First try the BIBLE ANSWER:
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous

Exodus 20:6 love me, and keep my commandments.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Then see kathr4453 on 8/6/13 post
---francis on 8/6/13


francis, there is no works of man involve in our salvation. You say,
"Why do youlove God? because he first loved me
How do you know that you love God?"

Because I do, that is why I believe by faith in the God of the Bible.
Works does not get anyone into the kingdom of God. Only those born of the Spirit can enter the Kingdom of God, and that work is the work of God. Jesus said,
"Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent" (John 6:29). Why? The disciples ask Jesus
"who can be saved?" but Jesus looked at them and said to them, "With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible." (Matt. 19:25,26).
---Mark_V. on 8/6/13


Francis has a real point here. Just giving a pat answer proves nothing. However we LOVE God through our lives and actions. Especially those actions towards others.

If you say you LOVE God but hate your brother, you are a hypocrite. Not only that, you are a phoney bologna!

For God so LOVED the World "HE GAVE"...you see, God's Love came through ACTION. How do you know He gave to YOU...offered YOU salvation? "YOU" is anyone here.
---kathr4453 on 8/6/13


I know I love Him because He first loved me.
---Mark_V. on 8/5/13

WOW That does not tell how you know you love him at all.

It may tell me WHY, it does not tell me HOW

Why do youlove God? because he first loved me
How do you know that you love God? you know you love himw hen you keep his commandments, and his commandments are not not griveiuos
---francis on 8/6/13


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I know I love Him because He first loved me. If He hadn't love me, I would never be able to feel the love for Christ.
"But God, who is rich in mercy, "because of His great love with which He loved us" even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved." (Eph. 4,5).
---Mark_V. on 8/5/13


By sowing the gospel
---Bryan on 8/4/13


---christan on 8/3/13
stick to the blog question
Do you love Jesus Christ? How do you know you really love Him?

---Mark_V. on 8/4/13
How you sold all that you have?
---francis on 8/4/13


No man hath seen God at any time. (If we love one another), (God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.)

Jesus answered and said unto him, (If a man love me, he will keep my words:) and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Owe no man anything, but to love one another: (for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.) For this, (Thou shalt not commit adultery,) (Thou shalt not kill,) (Thou shalt not steal,) (Thou shalt not bear false witness,) (Thou shalt not covet,) and (if there be any other commandment,) it is briefly (comprehended) in this saying, namely, (Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.)
Peace
---TheSeg on 8/4/13


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francis, it's as clear as daylight that from you, salvation is all "I, I, I, I, I, I, I......" and nothing to do with God Almighty.

Even loving Jesus according to your deadly gospel starts with you and not with the Father, though Scripture explicitly teaches that it all starts with God - "before the foundations of the world".

If anyone is being contentious with regards to the Word of God, needless to say, it's your poisoned gospel of freewill. I'll leave you this and wipe the dust of my feet with your nonsense,

"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day."
---christan on 8/3/13


francis, you are like the rich young ruler who spoke to Jesus claiming he kept all the commandments Jesus mentioned, and Jesus only gave him six. So Jesus told him,
" You still lack one thing, 'Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven, and come, follow Me" (Luke 18:22). So have all the SDA's including you sold everything and gave to the poor? What the rich young ruler lack was true faith, which involves a willingness to surrender all at Christ bidding.
---Mark_V. on 8/4/13


Do you love Jesus Christ? How do you know you really love Him?
---Mark_V. on 7/24/13
Deuteronomy 5:10 ..them that love me and keep my commandment
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:

a more detailed look:( preacher's version)

1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God, for God is love.
---francis on 8/3/13


---christan on 8/3/13
look at the blog question
Stop making up your own version of the question
---francis on 8/3/13


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christan you have become so contentious and negative, that you cannot see clearly what is posted, what it asks, or what it means

My suggestion is thus: Take some time to respond ONLY directly to the blog questions and not other peoples post

Your main purpose seem to be not to respond to the blog question, nor even to attempt to shed light, but simple to oppose everyone

step back, look at our post and purpose and reassess
---francis on 8/3/13


"It is about how WE love God not how God loves us, nor how we love our neighbours, not how we love our wives" francis

Is that how a sinner is saved according to the Word? That you love God and He saves you? O wow! Then I assure you that John 3:16,17 does not include your kind of salvation and that's because it declares,

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved."

Doesn't say that He saves the sinner because they love Him but rather He loved them. See how erroneous your understanding is?
---christan on 8/3/13


"read the blog question. Tell me what it is asking then we can talk" francis

The issue at hand is "love", period.
---christan on 8/2/13

NOPE

Do you love Jesus Christ? How do you know you really love Him? Do you have to do a lot of goods deeds to show your love? Please explain with Scripture if you can.

It is about how WE love God not how God loves us, nor how we love our neighbours, not how we love our wives

Maybe this explains why so many american children are being left behind
---francis on 8/2/13


"read the blog question. Tell me what it is asking then we can talk" francis

The issue at hand is "love", period. And when we talk about "loving Jesus/God with all our hearts, soul and mind", we must explicitly believe that such an action can only come about because "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us... We love him, because he first loved us." 1 John 4:10,19. See the sequence?

Your unbelief is so clear that you declared "the answer is not we love him because he first loved us". Basically, all your understanding of the Word is erroneous. But that comes with a heart that's not regenerated.
---christan on 8/2/13


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By sowing the Gospel he gave you. There is no law in the Gospel of Jesus Christ. It starts out as the smallest of seeds but it will grow over all the crap in your life and set you free.
---Bryan on 7/31/13


Joh_7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
---TheSeg on 7/31/13


Francis, that is right, all you can do is try to keep all of the laws of God because no one but Jesus Christ could keep them perfect.
"For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus" (Rom. 3:23,24). All fall short even you. So all you can do is try. Doing it is impossible with men, but not with God.
---Mark_V. on 7/31/13


---Mark_V. on 7/31/13
Where in the entire bible does it says " try to keep the laws of God?"
The "spirit of the law" according to Mark_V?

01: Try not to have other gods before me.
02: Try not to make unto thee any graven image,
03: Try not to not take the name of God in vain,
04: Try to Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
05: Try to honour your father and mother:
06: Try not to kill.
07: Try not to commit adultery.
08: Try not to steal.
09: Try not to bear false witness
10: Try not to covet
---francis on 7/31/13


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Jasheradan, I was only responding to what francis put down. Not attacking him but asking if he could keep all the commandments, all the laws? In other words was he sinless? capable of doing the passages he gave," Exodus 20:6 concerning those that love God.
John 14:15
John 14:21
John 15:10
1 John 5:3"
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He didn't say, try to keep them, like you did. Since he put them down I ask him if he could, all of them. Because only a person who is sinless can do that.
---Mark_V. on 7/31/13


The evidence for the love of Christ is First this: 1 John 3:14

Secondly the desire to keep the commands of God: John 14:15

One can love the idea of keeping commands and even of the righteousness of God and not draw near to the truth of 1 John 3:14. But that command is greater than the rest, as the Lord had said he requires mercy and not sacrifice. (Hosea 6:6)

And even though loving God with all your heart soul mind and strength is more then all burnt offerings (1 Sam 15:22/Mark 12:33) part of that obedience is to operate in his love for what he loves, to spiritually join him and become the expression of his love in the world, for this we were created.
---Pharisee on 7/30/13


Do you love Jesus Christ?
Then feed the sheep!

How do you know you really love Him?
The only way to know for sure is if you truly love me more than yourself!
Knowing this also! If you really loved me, you would lay down your life for me.
As he did for you! Can someone know they love God? Yes!
If you love your Brothers as God loves them! There is no other way!
Can you love God by keeping the commandments? NO!
Fact is you dont keep them!

Do you have to do a lot of good deeds to show your love?
Just one, Mat_6:15!
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Good Luck
Peace
---TheSeg on 7/29/13


Christan read the blog question. Tell me what it is asking then we can talk
---francis on 7/29/13


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Nothing like asking for scripture and then attacking a person for giving it.

Francis is right.

Since Gods laws are based on love for Him, ourselves and others, the only way to show your love for Christ is to follow the law the best we can.
---Jasheradan on 7/29/13


"Do you love Jesus Christ?" Yes.
"How do you know you really love Him?" Because He has given me the desire, inclination and tendency to love my fellowman, to do that which is uplifting, edifying, and beneficial to or towards him or her. And as one of His parables indicates, whatsoever help the believer willingly offers to the least of his or her fellowman, he or she has offered to Him. Also, He specifically said, "If you love Me, keep My commandments." "And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God, loves his [fellowman] also." Mat. 25:34-40 >John 14:15>1 John 4:21
---Josef on 7/29/13


"So christan the answer is not we love him because he first loved us, that is an answer to a different question." francis

From this statement you make in black and white, I do know that the love of God is DEFINITELY NOT IN YOU. How you can even make such a statement after being shown to you from 1 John 4:19, "We love Him, BECAUSE HE FIRST LOVED US." is beyond anything I've heard from you so far.

Your love you claim you have for God is not rooted in faith, sad to say, but by your own "filthy rags". That's why the spirit of the Pharisee lives in you and if God does not remove that spirit, you're precisely who Christ is talking to in Matthew 7:21-23 on Judgement Day.
---christan on 7/28/13


How do you know you really love Him?

By obeying his commandments in which the ultimate commandment is LOVE - genuine love, applied love.

Do you have to do a lot of goods deeds to show your love?

One does good deeds not because one has to, but because he wants to. Not to show your love, but because you are a loving and caring person.

Do an online KJV bible search for the words "encorag", "comfort" and "one another" to learn the cristian lifestyle, to learn HOW to apply your love. Not once a week like the heathens do, but daily.
---Steveng on 7/28/13


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Do you love Jesus Christ? How do you know you really love Him?
---Mark_V. on 7/24/13

Notice the question does not ask who initiated love. It asked "How do you know you really love Him?"
So christan the answer is not we love him because he first loved us, that is an answer to a different question.

The answer to this question is: John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.


When something from the Torah is quoted to him that he doesn't like, he dismisses it as simply one of Moses' laws, not God's.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/13
example
---francis on 7/28/13


"Does the bible connect our love to God with our keeping of his commandments?" francis

"We love Him, BECAUSE HE FIRST LOVED US." 1 John 4:19

What a hypocrite you are! You spend so much time telling the whole world how much "you love God" without even "connecting your love for God" with 1 John 4:19. Well, the following verse reminds us all how much you have demonstrated that "God's love" is not in you from your replies to those who oppose your doctrines.

"If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?" Get it?
---christan on 7/27/13


\\---Mark_V. on 7/26/13
After reading your question I ask you, does God command us to keep all his commandments?

If it does then we must keep all His commandments, if it does not then...
No need to fight against God that is a loosing battle
---francis on 7/27/13\\

I've noticed that francis picks and chooses what he considers to be God's commandments.

When something from the Torah is quoted to him that he doesn't like, he dismisses it as simply one of Moses' laws, not God's.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/13


---christan on 7/26/13
Not willing to waste time with this is ask you: Does the bible connect our love to God with our keeping of his commandments?
If it does then we must keep His commandments, if it does not then...
No need to fight against God that is a loosing battle

---Mark_V. on 7/26/13
After reading your question I ask you, does God command us to keep all his commandments?

If it does then we must keep all His commandments, if it does not then...
No need to fight against God that is a loosing battle
---francis on 7/27/13


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francis, Exodus 20:6 "And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."

Question: Does God show mercy because He loves the sinner OR does He show mercy because you love Him?

You then quote: John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me:" John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love,"

Do you then realise, 1 John 5:3 "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous" means you keeping the commandments of God is because God's love is what's holding you?
---christan on 7/26/13


francis, after reading your answer I ask you, are you one person who can keep all the commandments of God? Are you without sin? Are you sinless? I know you know the law and put it down, but are you sinless yourself? A simple yes or no will do. So when Jesus say,
"Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect"
Are you now perfect? A simple yes or no will do.
---Mark_V. on 7/26/13


How do you know you really love Him? Please explain with Scripture if you can.
---Mark_V. on 7/24/13

Exodus 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.


John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me:

John 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love,

1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous
---francis on 7/25/13


This is the ultimate demonstration in the love of God - "But God commendeth His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

We quote Scriptures like it's so easy to love the way God loves His people but we forget that this body of sin cannot love the way the Scripture commands. It's such a struggle and that's because "...the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin."

"O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin."
---christan on 7/25/13


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Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh_15:9 As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love, even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
This is the only way you know you really love Him?

If you love each other, not as you love. But as I (our lord) loves you!
As you look at one another remember this. He loved you while you were yet sinners.
If I your lord have loved you, before you even knew me. How should you look at each other?

Love each other as if your life depends on it. It does!
Peace
---TheSeg on 7/24/13


Hello,Truly,the Lord Jesus, really is my closest friend, family, husband.
get real get over the past! It a struggle, yet possible!
God be praised, my enemies scattered, & do forgive - keep at it.move on!
Jesus truly my best friend, .Once in a while, I may see neighbors,quick hello! very carefull now. I helped folks 40 yrs. NOW time for me, look after me( jesus the Head )
I ask the Lord please take Control of my mind,the rest will follow! I tell myself, 5 min. is too,long for depression! So,you keep focus!here my helpers! Php.4:7,1Col.7:15,Mt.5:9 Pro.14:30,Is.26:3,Gal.5:22,
Plus/ I have 2 whole books( study all about Forgiveness! helps a bunch.
---lidia4796 on 7/24/13


"If you love Me, keep My commandments......"

Will this do?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/24/13


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