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Shaved Head And Tattooed

I am considering shaving my head and getting swastikas tattooed on all visible parts of my body. Since the Bible doesn't condemn swastikas, and there is no negative meaning associated with swastikas in the Bible, and the Bible does tell us not to judge by appearances, would this bring shame to my faith?

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Francis, do you think pedophilia is a joke? On 8/6/13 you made the following statement, in response to a question by Elder:

Young boys needed?
---francis on 8/6/13

Would you please explain the purpose of your response or a reason behind it?
---NurseRobert on 8/10/13


Well, it's not as if Francis was making fun of the victims. He was making fun of the catholic priests who are the abusers. So getting offended as a victim doesn't really make any sense. In a way, he was actually defending the victims by mocking their abusers. I don't think Jews would be offended if you made fun of Hitler. As a Christian, I don't feel offended when you make fun of Obama (our equivalent to Hitler). So I don't see why a victim of Catholic molestation should feel offended when someone mocks pedophilic priests.
---Jed on 8/10/13


francis:

Paul addressed a similar issue when he wrote about eating meat sacrificed to idols. He knew that idols were not real, so there was no sin in eating such meat. However, some others did not have this certainty. So, to avoid offending these others, Paul said he would refrain from eating meat. He chose the sensibilities of others over asserting his own rights.
---StrongAxe on 8/10/13


---Cluny on 8/9/13

If someone said something about the holocaust not all would be offended, mainly the jews

If someone said something about slavery not all would be offended, mainly those whose family were enslaved

why is everyone not offended:

Because the offense is NOT in
what was said at all, but in the painful memories of an event that touch you or your family

I did not abuse her at all, you are asking me to apologize for a painful memory that she has, which I did not create
---francis on 8/10/13


Shaving your head may be acceptable, but swastikas are out, if you desire any type of positive witness to Jews. Come to think of it, about the only ones who MIGHT find what you plan on doing as a positive thing are some of your "hate groups". Is that what you want?
---wivv on 8/10/13




People make jokes about crimes like this all the time. It's not abnormal. People make jokes about Michael Jackson and OJ Simpson all the time. I hear people make jokes about same-sex couples every day even though that perversion and the child abuse often involved is no laughing matter. I don't think it was meant to be offensive to anyone except the priests who committed the crimes and those who continually defend them on these blogs, certainly not to the victims. And though I may agree these jokes can be tasteless, I think your offense is a little misplaced. Your anger should properly be focused toward the actual perpetrators of the abuse, not the people making fun of them.
---Jed on 8/10/13


cluny this is the second time I agree totally with you, your comment to francis.
---shira4368 on 8/10/13


\\Grandma on 8/9/13
It is not my words which offend you. It is the memory of past experience that has offended you
---francis on 8/9/13\\

Interesting how you do all sorts of things to justify your tasteless remarks, but refuse to do the gentlemanly thing and simply apologize.

(I don't expect you to rise to the level of Christianity in this.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/9/13


Grandma on 8/9/13
It is not my words which offend you. It is the memory of past experience that has offended you
---francis on 8/9/13


Francis: Ephesians 4:29 Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.

You are the one who made the crude joke. You are the person who offended me here, on Christianet. Don't tell me who offended me, when I read your disgusting words, written here.
---Grandma on 8/9/13




---Grandma on 8/9/13

No those who abuse offend you

maybe my statement reminded you
---francis on 8/9/13


\\Nor does the Roman Catholic Church.
---Cluny on 8/8/13
LOL

you move them to another parish?
---francis on 8/8/13\\

Just like the SDA, francis.

Search "SDA ministers and sexual abuse" and be enlightened.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/9/13


Francis: You offended me, and any other victim of child sexual abuse that posts on Christianet, because you made an attempt at a joke about the subject.

I don't know any Catholic priests to be offended by. You claim to be a Christian, and come here joking about such a painful subject. You committed the offense.
---Grandma on 8/9/13


No Nurse man I is thinking you is the man and you is cool. You come to my hood and see how long you last if you think people dont judge by how yous look. No prob man, I tattoo you and give you strong drink make you cool. haha Don't you judge the dudes when they put the knives or guns into you cause judge outward looks.
---Goofy_Mouse on 8/8/13


I notice you lack any remorse for offending me. Instead, you throw it back in my face, as if I am responsible for the abusive priests.
---Grandma on 8/8/13
I did not offend you
I never initially address you

the priest should have remorse for what they did
You should be offended by them
---francis on 8/8/13


What can ONE person do?

One person can do wonderful miracles when backed by God. Look at Moses, Jonah, Ruth, Mary, and all the other godly people and prophets. They were of one person doing many wonderful things.
---Steveng on 8/8/13


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I notice you lack any remorse for offending me. Instead, you throw it back in my face, as if I am responsible for the abusive priests.

---Grandma on 8/8/13


The Priest themselves are responsible, and the Roman Catholic Church is responsible. I think Francis assumed you are a member of the Roman Catholic Church. You are correct that it is up to the legal system to prosecute these abusers, but it is also up to the Church to deal with this issue and expose these priests to the authorities. But we know that the Roman Catholic Church has been covering and hiding these abuses.
---Jed on 8/8/13


Jed, I have no control over what the mods post. Please talk to them.

You've exposed nothing but your own fraudulent behavior, knowing you have no intention of getting any kind of tattoo. Like just about every post you've made on this subject, it's a vain attempt to justify your bigoted behavior. I expect something like this from you and wouldn't be surprised if "goofy_mouse" is one of your alter egos.

You will believe what you will about me. Unlike you, I think a persons heart is much more important than how they look. You cannot or will not understand that. Pity...

Please re-read John 7:24, 1 Samuel 16:7, James 2.
---NurseRobert on 8/8/13


Francis: What am I supposed to do about the sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church? I left the Catholic church in 1975, at the age of 17. I wasn't abused by a priest.

Now that the abuse has been brought out in the open, it's now a legal matter. It's up to the prosecutors in each city to have the abusive priests investigated, as well as the bishops who were responsible for the cover-ups.

I notice you lack any remorse for offending me. Instead, you throw it back in my face, as if I am responsible for the abusive priests.
---Grandma on 8/8/13


Nor does the Roman Catholic Church.
---Cluny on 8/8/13
LOL

you move them to another parish?
---francis on 8/8/13


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Yo Nurse man. Yo outward appearance is based upon what be in yo heart. What you be smoking? Yous know dat. So I say again I sees the weed, the drunks and tattoos in yo heart. Let's share our hearts together while we smoke the weed. I like yo man. You is cool, but got coconut skull at times. hehe
---Goofy_Mouse on 8/8/13


\\No we do not send our pastors away to the Vatican if they commit crimes
---francis on 8/7/13\\

Nor do the Orthodox.

Nor does the Roman Catholic Church.

So I guess we're all even.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/8/13


---Grandma on 8/7/13
And what hav you done about the abuse in the RCC?
---francis on 8/8/13


Francis: As a survivor of child sexual abuse, I am deeply offended by your crass attempt at a joke about that subject.

If you had been following any of the news concerning the Catholic church on this subject, you'd know that the men responsible for the cover-ups within the various archdiocese are being charged with their crimes, along with the pedophile priests. In Philadelphia several priests and bishops have been convicted and sentenced to prison for their crimes.
---Grandma on 8/7/13


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Same thing SDA is.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/7/13
No we do not send our pastors away to the Vatican if they commit crimes
---francis on 8/7/13


Thank you for all the responses. I know there is much debate on whether tattoos are Biblical or not. But this was not my real concern. My main concern was how that image might represent my faith. I know this may sound silly, but I am concerned about bigots who might judge me because of the way I look and assume that I am a white supremacist or a member of the Arian Brotherhood Klan, because I am not. I just really like the way they look but I am not one myself. I am also a Christian and I don't want people to get the wrong idea about Christians. Do you think this is a legitimate concern? Or do you think most people would be open-minded enough to know that my tattoos have nothing to do with who I am. Would it be wrong to do this?
---Jed on 8/7/13


\\But what is the RCC and ORTHODOX church doing about it?
---francis on 8/7/13\\

Same thing SDA is.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/7/13


Young boys needed?
---francis on 8/6/13\\

Pedophilia is NOT a laughing matter.

Your tasteless remark is unfair to the girls that have been victims of clerical abuse, as well.
---Cluny on 8/7/13

But what is the RCC and ORTHODOX church doing about it?
---francis on 8/7/13


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The huge holes that stretch out the ear lobes are indicative of a defiant and wayward attitude.
---Jed on 8/6/13


No, it doesn't. What are you basing this on? You're personal belief?

From your any previous posts on these blogs...
---StrongAxe on 8/6/13


He doesn't. He's trying to continue an argument he had on another post, hopeing to get more people to agree with him.

Pedophilia is NOT a laughing matter. ---Cluny on 8/7/13

Your very right on this. I will say, the Catholic church completely mishandled this. These priests should have been thrown out of the church and into jail. That said, Francis, it really was a tacky comment and out of line.
---NurseRobert on 8/7/13


\\What statement does a Priest make with his wearing of a collar?
---Elder on 8/6/13
Young boys needed?
---francis on 8/6/13\\

Pedophilia is NOT a laughing matter.

Your tasteless remark is unfair to the girls that have been victims of clerical abuse, as well.

It also hides the fact that the percentage of public school teachers who sexually abuse their students is actually at least TWICE AS HIGH as the percentage of priests who do.

One day, there will be a BIG SCANDAL involving sexual misconduct among SDA leadership.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/7/13


Jeb,

1Co6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
1Co6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

Don't put graffiti on God's temple!!!
---trey on 8/6/13


francis, I wasn't expecting the truth.
---Elder on 8/6/13


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I read a few post where it says that the OT was only for the Jews. For you who bleieve that are the same as the Jews themselves at that time. For God told the Jews to spread the news throughout the world. The Jews thought it was only for them in which God punished them for not doing what was asked of them. God chose them to spread the news and the Jews failed. Jonah thought the same way, remember that story?
---Steveng on 8/6/13


What statement does a Priest make with his wearing of a collar?
---Elder on 8/6/13
Young boys needed?
---francis on 8/6/13


Jed:

From your any previous posts on these blogs, I can't believe that your blog topic is sincerely what you WANT to do. It sounds much more like a satirical comment and/or a question like one the Pharisees posed to Jesus (e.g. the woman widowed seven times) that is not intended to promote honest discussion, bur rather to trap someone into an answer that can be jumped on, no matter how one answers.
---StrongAxe on 8/6/13


\\What statement does a Priest make with his wearing of a collar?\\

The so called clerical collar is actually the front of a cassock over the stiff shirt collar that ALL professional gentlemen wore once upon a time.

Glory to Jesus Christ
---Cluny on 8/6/13


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\\why do some women want the red bottom shoes? are they trying to tell us regular folks they are rich?\\

What are red bottom shoes?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/6/13


cluny, jet black dyed hair is the worst kind of fake there is. some older women thinks they look young and believe me they look hideous. we never see ourselves the way others see us. why do some women want the red bottom shoes? are they trying to tell us regular folks they are rich?
---shira4368 on 8/6/13


Cluny you asked Shirl, "What statement is being made by these things, shira?"
What statement does a Priest make with his wearing of a collar?
The statements can be a host of things. Anti-establishment, anti-government, rebellion and other things.
A survey I did of young dating women revealed many dress statements. One was shoes. Every young female I spoke to said she would not date a man who wore dirty shoes. They felt it showed a lack of concern, pride in their appearence and/or lazyness. Work clothes excepted.
When we dress up or down it transmitts a statement.
Betcha wouldn't look for a job in your PJs.
---Elder on 8/6/13


\\The huge holes that stretch out the ear lobes are indicative of a defiant and wayward attitude.\\

Are they?

\\ People that wear them are usually the same individuals that dye their hair jet black.\\

Really? I have met several people with grommets in their ears, and their hair was left its natural color.

Doesn't it bother you to talk about things of which you know nothing and project your own prejudices onto others?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/6/13


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The huge holes that stretch out the ear lobes are indicative of a defiant and wayward attitude. People that wear them are usually the same individuals that dye their hair jet black. The fact is, they WANT to be viewed by others as obstinate, insubordinate, and nonconforming. Tattoos can mean a variety of things. Folks with "barbwire" or "tribal" tattoos around the bicep are usually trying to look like "tough" guys. A butterfly tattoo on a female's lower back or a heart located directly above the pelvic region has a different meaning. Other tats can be indicative of a certain gang association. Some indicate a branch of the armed forces. But without doubt each one conveys a very deliberate statement.
---Jed on 8/6/13


\\the problem with tattoos and huge earrings are: they are making a statement.\\

What statement is being made by these things, shira?

Can you be specific, please?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/6/13



Do you agree the Bible tells us not to do that? ---NurseRobert on 8/5/13


Not exactly. John 7:24 "Do not judge by appearance, But judge righteous judgment."

This is not talking about a person's chosen style of dress. This means do not judge situations on the way they appear at first glance. The superficial aspect of things. But consider the case and see what has actually been done, and decide wisely and justly.

When Jesus said this he had just performed a miracle and the crowed called him demon possessed. This had nothing to do with a person's chosen style of attire. A person's chosen style is generally the way they WANT other people to view them.
---Jed on 8/6/13


the problem with tattoos and huge earrings are: they are making a statement. so that puts them in a certain class and that is what most of them want. you can say whatever but when people go to extremes to be noticed, they are definitely making a statement. but..if they get saved, they probably don't want it but they are stuck with it.
---shira4368 on 8/5/13


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\\No one thinks a suit and tie makes you a good person.\\

Do tattoos and earhoops make someone a BAD person? You seem to think so.

\\Nonetheless, a suit and tie IS a professional look, and these men were professional\\

That's true. They were professional con men who robbed people as much as if they held them up at gunpoint.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/5/13


Jed isn't judging anybody as I am reading his post.
---Janet on 8/5/13
I fully admit that I do.
---Jed on 8/5/13

Ummmm Janet, actually he did.

Jed, there is no doubt that we all fall into the same trap. I said I would hope I wouldn't but, depending on the circumstances perhaps I would.

Do you agree the Bible tells us not to do that?
---NurseRobert on 8/5/13


Willie C, very good points you gave. What I don't agree with is for a brother to judge another brother by the way he looks.
The lost world judges by its looks. Although many Christians are very legalistic also.
But for a Christian to judge another brother by the way he looks is wrong. Because I would rather talk to a brother who has tattoos yet speaks with words of the love of Christ, then to speak to a suppose Christian whose words are fill with venom that comes from their hearts. I myself don't like tattoo's for myself. But if a person feels guilty about doing something, they should not do it. If it is sin to them, they should listen to their conscience. If what they do offends a brother, they should not do it.
---Mark_V. on 8/5/13


Would I judge Bernie Maddoff by how he looks, or by his actions? How bout Jimmy Swaggert or James Bakker?
---NurseRobert on 8/5/13


You judge them by both! No one thinks a suit and tie makes you a good person. YOU seem to have that misunderstanding. Nonetheless, a suit and tie IS a professional look, and these men were professional. Crooks, yes, but professional nonetheless. They were not "gangsta", or punk, or emmo, or thugs, they were professional and their attire reflected that.
---Jed on 8/5/13


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Paul speaking about the law of circumcision,
---Mark_V. on 8/5/13
we are speaking about appearances right? good

this is how I would apply circumcisions
Galatians 2:3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:

Acts 16:1 and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, his father was a Greek: Him would Paul have to go forth with him, and took and circumcised him BECAUSE OF THE JEWS which were in those quarters:
---francis on 8/5/13


Nurse man Nurse man the tattoos, weed, ear rings and the drunks are outward actions just like the white collar crime. Is you got a skulls as thick as a cocunut? Does you think I was tied down with weed forced on me? It ain't no Nurse man it's Nurse coconut. ha ha you make me laugh man. Come man gets the drunks with me.
---Goofy_Mouse on 8/5/13



Can you honestly say, when you posted that a person with hoops and tattoos "look like a complete idiot and a loser," you weren't judging people by how they look?
---NurseRobert on 8/5/13


No, I can't say that, and I didn't. I fully admit that I do. As I already stated, the image a person chooses to project of themselves is a direct reflection of what is in their heart. YOU are the one claiming that you don't judge people by their outward appearance. But you are only lying to yourself if you say you would have no preconceived opinions about the mindset of a skinhead covered in swastikas, because NOBODY is believing that. Because the truth is that his appearance IS a reflection of what is in his heart.
---Jed on 8/5/13


"My belief is simple, judge people by who they are NOT what they wear or how they look."

Jed isn't judging anybody as I am reading his post. However, you are judging Jed! You are assuming what he is saying versus asking. Does that not make you a hypocrite?
---Janet on 8/5/13


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francis, you say,
"Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any print any marks upon you: I am the LORD." That law was given to Israel, who was under the law of works. Those laws don't apply to New Covenant believers.
"Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with the yoke of bondage." Paul speaking about the law of circumcision,
"Indeed, I Paul, say to you, that if you become circumcised Christ will prophet you nothing" because Christ made us free from the law. We are now slaves of God
"But now having been set free from sin, and having become slaves of God, you have your fruit to holiness and the end, everlasting life."
---Mark_V. on 8/5/13


Jed, If I dress in a 3 piece suit am I different that when I wear my ratty blue jeans? When I take my scrubs off after work, does that make me any less of a nurse?

Can you honestly say, when you posted that a person with hoops and tattoos "look like a complete idiot and a loser," you weren't judging people by how they look?

James 2 had nothing to do with appearance people could not change, but directly about people dressed up (a man in gold rings and fine apparel) vs. people not as dressed up (filthy clothing).

I would hope I would judge a skin head by his actions, not by what he looked liked. Would I judge Bernie Maddoff by how he looks, or by his actions? How bout Jimmy Swaggert or James Bakker?
---NurseRobert on 8/5/13


--NurseRobert on 8/5/13
Leviticus 19:27 Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.

Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

Deut 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment:

Deut 22:11 Thou shalt not wear a garment of divers sorts,

Genesis 35:3 And let us arise, and go up to Bethel, and I will make there an altar unto God, And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which [were] in their hand, and [all their] earrings which [were] in their ears, and Jacob hid them under the oak which [was] by Shechem.
---francis on 8/5/13


I don't think bringing shame to your faith would be the main thing to be concerned about, but I would be concerned about why your mind would even be thinking about stuff like that.

If you could do something like this, possibly you already would be living in a way that did not bring glory to God. It would not be an isolated thing. And people would be more likely to see it to mean something only about you . . . since people claiming to be Christian would not be doing this with you.
---willie_c: on 8/5/13


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KOWABONGA, Jed. Will you post some before-and-after pictures for us after the clippers cool down?

---Gordon on 8/5/13


If there is a way to post pictures on Christianet, I am certainly unaware of it.
---Jed on 8/5/13


Hello,Bro.Jed ( with all respect)
I can ask are you aware of the suffering of the jewish people,among others who also, in lew of the horrible killings of these people( related to of coarse the Swatika? ) we talking about also, maybe you may not realize it may offend yes,your testimony as for be called a Christian. We know of you on here, no issue. However, sometimes people assume alot and can possible be maybe a certain need you are calling out this attention, I would be concerned also,for your safety ... we live in different time. I would concern for you
Safety... just a thought, you do not to agree... love of Jesus! Lidia4796
---lidia4796 on 8/5/13



My belief is simple, judge people by who they are NOT what they wear or how they look.

---NurseRobert on 8/5/13


But your dress IS a direct reflection of who you are on the inside. That is why tattoos, piercings, make-up, clothing style, hair styles/colors, are referred to as "expressing yourself" for a very good reason, because it is an outward EXPRESSION of what is on the inside. When the Bible talks about judging by appearances, it is talking about physical traits that we have no or little control over. Studies show that pretty people are generally perceived as nice people while ugly people are generally perceived as bad people. This is the type of judging the Bible discourages.
---Jed on 8/5/13


KOWABONGA, Jed. Will you post some before-and-after pictures for us after the clippers cool down?
---Gordon on 8/5/13


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NurseRoberts, thank you for your kind words. So what you are saying, NurseRoberts, is that if you saw a skin head covered with swastikas, you would not assume anything about his character or lifestyle? You would think that perhaps what is in his heart has made him desire this image? And if he went around calling himself a Christian, it would be a good representation of your God? You would not think that the way he has chosen to present himself to the world might be a reflection of what is in his heart?
---Jed on 8/5/13


Oh and Janet.

Are you saying men shouldn't wear earrings. Men have been wearing earrings for thousands of years.
---NurseRobert on 8/5/13


==. I don't know one non-Christian that thinks that is what Christians do. ==

Non Christians have all sorts of strange ideas about what Christians do.

So do Christians.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/5/13


Janet, you asked,
"Isn't the Gospel different than the world," it is different. We live in the world but we are not of the World. Then ask," Mark? Are you saying copy the world and then go talk about Jesus? People will blow you off as a hypocrite."
Janet we do not save anyone, the gospel truth of Jesus Christ does. You can look which ever way you look, yet your looks or the smoothness of your words have no power to save anyone. When God wants to save someone through the gospel, He will save them no matter what the person who is giving the gospel looks like. Unbelievers will always blow you away, becaus they just don't want to hear about the Lord, unless God has prepared their hearts.
---Mark_V. on 8/5/13


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Janet 2: when you said,
" Are you saying copy the world and then go talk about Jesus? People will blow you off as a hypocrite. That's what Nurse Rob is encouraging." That is not what Nurseroberts is saying. Not at all. Now you ask him,
" Are you encouraging people to have a worldly heart?"
I don't know why you would say that. I have read what he has said, and no where is he encouraging anyone to have a worldly heart. Don't you understand that what may be sin for you might not be sin for someone else?
---Mark_V. on 8/5/13


Janet, at no time have I encouraged anyone to get tattoos, earrings or piercings. This blog was posted as a misdirection. Please read the "No Ring Loops In Ears". Believe me, Jed doesn't confuse me.

Don't Christian's copy the world every day? Think how you dress. Don't you dress to conform to "standards" that your society or group says is appropriate?

Who defines what is appropriate? The Bible admonishes us to dress modestly, (actually, it admonishes women to dress modestly) but who decides what is modest? The Bible doesn't lay out what you should wear.

My belief is simple, judge people by who they are NOT what they wear or how they look.
---NurseRobert on 8/5/13


//and the Bible does tell us not to judge by appearances//
yeah but most people do.

//would this bring shame to my faith?//

yes it would because you are changing your identity or at least the perception of identity away from love to hate. Jesus said "they will know you are my disciples by your love." The swastika means bent cross and used to be a symbol of success and prosperity just like the regular cross before the Romans made it a sign of torture and execution. My point is that one day the swastika may return to the original good meaning but until then it would not be benefitual. "For all things are permissable but not benefitual."
---Scott1 on 8/5/13


Rob what people do is what is in their hearts. Therefore, are you encouraging Christians to have a worldly heart?

If someone had tattoos or ear rings prior to coming to Christ, who cares. But to encourage Christians to copy the world is being a hypocrite. I don't know one non-Christian that thinks that is what Christians do. How is Jed confusing you?
---Janet on 8/5/13


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People will blow you off as a hypocrite. That's what Nurse Rob is encouraging.
---Janet on 8/4/13

No, Janet, that's NOT what I'm saying. What I have said, and what I continue to say, is to judge people, NOT by their looks, but by their hearts.

Jed has no intention of doing any of this - he knows it, I know it, and anyone who has read his recent postings on other blogs know this. He is being petulant because he got called on his responses.

The thing that brings shame to his faith is his behavior.
---NurseRobert on 8/4/13


Jed I know that you are just joking, but a republican with a swastikas tattoo ( see david duke) is no surprise

But folks let us consider this verses:

Galatians 2:3 But neither Titus, who was with me, being a Greek, was compelled to be circumcised:

Acts 16:1 and, behold, a certain disciple was there, named Timotheus, his father was a Greek: Him would Paul have to go forth with him, and took and circumcised him BECAUSE OF THE JEWS which were in those quarters:

Your appearance can be a stumbling block

as to the swastikas tattoo" the bible does not say what not to print it just says do not make ANY prints
Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.
---francis on 8/4/13


Nah, Jed, you can bring shame to your faith without all those tatoos.....
---Elder on 8/4/13


I am considering shaving my head and getting swastikas tattooed on all visible parts of my body. ... would this bring shame to my faith?
---Jed on 8/3/13

As if being a republican does not bring enough shame

1 Thess 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not ... print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.


Philippians 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
---francis on 8/4/13


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The destruction of the temple of God (the body) is forbidden. Tattoos is graffiti and body piercings only attracts attention by man. Except women, tattoos and body piercings were a sign of slavery and of people with questionable characters like pirates.

Of course we should look on the inside, but when a person decides to get a tattoo or body piercing he or she only does it to look good to men, nothing more than self graification to impress their friends and peers. Aren't christians looks to be modest, not to be worldly as tattoos and body piercings are now fashionable?

Some also say not to judge, but are christians to judge righteously?
---Steveng on 8/4/13


Isn't the Gospel different than the world, Mark? Are you saying copy the world and then go talk about Jesus? People will blow you off as a hypocrite. That's what Nurse Rob is encouraging.
---Janet on 8/4/13


Jed, I believe that what matters is what is in your heart. Just look at all those that God saves, drunks, murderers, drug addicts, Prostitutes, big heavy people, skinny people, bold headed people and people with a lot of hair. God is interested only at the heart. For what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart.
You might feel bad doing all those things you mentioned, so if you do, don't do them. You have to listen to your conscience, for the Spirit speaks to our conscience. So if you believe something to be sin, don't do it.
---Mark_V. on 8/4/13


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