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Is Mankind Special

Is there really anything special about mankind, or are we just another evolved life form.

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 ---jerry6593 on 8/19/13
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markv, your post really promotes free will. look at your answer to Catherine.
---shira4368 on 9/3/13


Jerry, you say,
"MarkV: Do you believe in Darwin's fantasy?" NO.
Then say,
" Is that why you don't think that mankind possesses free moral agency?" I never said that. I said man does not have a will that is free. The Bible declares the will man is in bondage to sin or to God. They do the desires of their father the devil. They freely do what they want, but will never want God unless God makes them willing. Why? Because they are separated from God. Spiritually dead.

I'll ask the question now?
Why do you want to take the glory away from God for saving you? Why do you fight so hard to have your own freedom from God to choose Christ or not?
Can you be honest and answer?
---Mark_V. on 9/3/13


Ysha: Word of Elohyim became flesh by pure blood line reserved - by Him.(Isa42:1,43:1)
Exist Creator, Spirit - Life where by all breath in flesh come from 'above'. Once birth through flesh "living soul" One begins dying, Gen1:21,Gen 2:7 (Flesh decays)
"For in the day you eat from it a dying[mot] you will die[mot]." [Heb#4191]
But through/by following Elohyims instructions'Living Word' one may live.
Jn3(all)vs5Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Savior of all kinds/types/sorts/race/tribe
1Tim 4:10[...]fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all' of men, that is (or, particularly) those who believe. (not exclusively Israel)
1 Tim. 2:5-8
---char on 9/3/13


It also says, "...as at this day., which means that God was pleased with them.

More:

1 Kings 9:4 "And if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, in integrity of heart, and in uprightness, to do according to all that I have commanded thee, and wilt keep my statutes and my judgments:" God was pleased with David.

God is pleased,
2 Kings 12:2
2 Kings 14:3
2 Kings 15:3

Many examples of God being please with man's walk. Sometimes also pleased with the whole town, sometimes with individuals. Good thing He is the judge and not you.
---Nana on 9/3/13


Yes, God made us special, humans. With His own hands in His own image. And we are the only creatures God created who has the ability to worship Him in truth and in spirit. Also, murder is a very serious crime and sin against God, because, He values every single human life. Saved and the lost.
---catherine on 9/3/13




MarkV: Do you believe in Darwin's fantasy? Is that why you don't think that mankind possesses free moral agency? Because he is just another dumb animal guided only by animalistic instinct, and wholly unfitted for making decisions of a moral nature?




---jerry6593 on 9/3/13


Nana, a good passage you gave,
"1 Chronicles 28:7_9 "Moreover I will establish his kingdom for ever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments,"
Now see that big word "If?" they didn't follow God commandments and judgments, they actually got worse. God was willing, but they were not willing. Why? because they were doing the desires of their father the devil. They already had a father they loved, They could not possibly do the desires of God. The only way they could is if God saved them by Grace through faith, otherwise they continued to do the desires of their father. That is why'
"There is none who understands, there is none who seeks after God" (Rom. 3:11).
---Mark_V. on 9/3/13


1 Chronicles 28:7_9 "Moreover I will establish his kingdom for ever, if he be constant to do my commandments and my judgments, as at this day. Now therefore in the sight of all Israel the congregation of the LORD, and in the audience of our God, keep and seek for all the commandments of the LORD your God: that ye may possess this good land, and leave it for an inheritance for your children after you for ever. And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee, but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever."
---Nana on 9/2/13


Shira, please, give me a break. No one here has given one passage that says free will was given to all human beings. Please do not make something up. I think its time you guys stop taking the glory for your salvation. You should be happy and humbled that God saved you. He could have just let you kept going to hell where you were heading. Instead you preach that man has the ability while lost to chose Christ if he wants to or not. You speak against the Word of God. Ask for forgiveness if you are saved, tell God you are sorry for speaking against Him. "For everything good comes from above." Not from man.
"There is none who understand, There is none who seek after God" no one lost, Shira. (Rom. 3:11).
---Mark_V. on 9/2/13


MarkV: "Hey, you can call me names all you want ..... Blah, blah, blah."

Excuse me! Just what name did I call you? I called your twisted cult religion of predestination a name, not you.

By the way, what is "garbish" anyway? And, once again, "then" and "than" are not the same word.




---jerry6593 on 9/2/13




Shira, I know he wants no part of that. And Markv personal faith and belief should be his own. But will Markv ever lighten up and stop attacking people for their faith and belief, lying about them, attacking them because they do believe in free will? No he never will. Markv has some peculiar idea that that brings God Glory, not only attacking them, but calling God own children, the children of the devil. That's where he takes his fanatism over the line. Something like the crusaders, or the inquisition, murdering anyone who doesn't agree with him. That kind of Christianity God NEVER ordained, or for-ordained.
---kathr4453 on 9/2/13


kathr, where is your tact? we have been thru this already. you need to lighten up on markv. you will never change him. he is set deep in his belief and he will never see the truth. everyone on christianet has given scripture to support free will but he just don't want any part of that.
---shira4368 on 9/1/13


Marks, if you care to READ, you will see I FOUND that post and posted it, Nana also verifying you made that statement. Our posts came out at the same time. God is great, isn't He.

I'm not impressed with what YOU THINK someone said. We all know your THINKING is twisted within your twisted mind who cannot keep any truth accurate. THEREFORE, please find Blog and post date I said I came to Christ without faith. You have a sick and twisted definition of faith. And it is YOUR sick twisted definition that has made false accusations called LIES. Your sick mind is all your own, and affects nothing.

No one can come to Christ and be saved without Faith....GOT THAT.

You are a pathological liar Mark who desperately needs help.
---kathr4453 on 9/1/13


Jerry, you now want to enter the conversation with you Saturday Day Sabbath subject by arguing and calling the predestination of God garbish when you said:
"Then why did you hijack yet another Creation vs. Evolution blog to regurgitate your tired old predestination garbage" Hey, you can call me names all you want but don't you realize calling the plan of God garbish is to speak against God? you do is so freely, for you have no fear of God. You are so far in your legalism that you cannot see the Truth anymore. That's why you have no fear of God when you call His Word garbish. You give more credit to sinful man then you give to God.
---Mark_V. on 9/1/13


MarkV: "The subject was not about me, but about who God is"

Then why did you hijack yet another Creation vs. Evolution blog to regurgitate your tired old predestination garbage. In the Bible Creation account, God made man in a special way on the sixth day, and then granted him the FREEDOM OF CHOICE to pick the names of the animals. God then went on to create a holy seventh day to set apart a perpetual time to meet with man. But you don't care what the Bible says, you're going with your own ideas rather than God's Word.



---jerry6593 on 9/1/13


Kathr, you told me that when you came to Christ you had no faith and that after you were saved you received all things. Now, I am not Nana, who is able to go back and look for past statements someone makes and I am not going to even try. You lie all the time anyway.
You see, the problem with you is that you talk too much, to sound very religious. You have now learned you cannot come to Christ without faith, so you now deny what you said. But that is ok with me, that is who you are.
---Mark_V. on 9/1/13


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Marks, that's not what I asked you. Man you are like a slippery snake when it comes to answering questions. I never asked how you feel about me. We all already know that.

Where is the blog and date I said I saved myself without faith? Or where anyone said that? You've been asked many times to prove your accusations. You can't, so you personally attack, acting so self righteous and self sanctified.

Your lack of evidence is what is bothering you. Come on Markv, just find a post I said that. Maybe YOU misread something, and I can have another opportunity to point out your lie. if you can't back up your accusation, how are we to believe you even understand God's Word. Misrepresentation is your MO!
---kathr4453 on 8/31/13


Kathr, again all talk and now you say,
"So Markv, what part here bothers you? That you believe God created the wicked for His pleasure, and will take pleasure in destroying them,"
What really bothers me is that God might not want to change you and that would be terrible. God gets no pleasure dealing with the wicked but He also brings justice, and with you no one is forcing you to sin everyday. You are doing it all on your own. I pray that the will of God is that you one day be saved. I always have hope in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 8/30/13


So Markv, what part here bothers you? That you believe God created the wicked for His pleasure, and will take pleasure in destroying them,

Or that you still cannot find blog title and date proving your false accusation?

Anything to get out of your lie! My prayer is The Lord will so convict you of your lies, that it will lead to repentance of lying, which is a SIN, leading to your salvation.
---kathr4453 on 8/30/13


Kathr, just more talk. Still hoping one day God changes your heart. I am praying for you everyday. But this is the will of God for right now, that you be there to oppose His Truth so that the Truth can be brought to others.
---Mark_V. on 8/30/13


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Markv, if we are to talk about The Lord and HIS WORD, then REJOICE in the truth. I believe YOU were the one going off on Lidia, and then pontificating about how wrong everyone is but you.

Now you can't stand it, and instead of saying "THANKS FOR THE SCRIPTURE, I must have overlooked that," apologizing to Lidia YOUR OVERREACTION to her comment, we see your PRIDE once again has overruled your humility throwing up a smoke screen hoping no one will see through your reaction, by again placing the blame of your UGLINESS onto others.

REPENT MARKV!
---kathr4453 on 8/29/13


Kathr, why is it that you always try to distroy something good when Christians talk about our Omnipotent God? The subject was not about me, but about who God is.
It is your nature to make an argument no matter what subject Christians talk about. Maybe, just maybe, one day you will have something good to talk about the Lord.
---Mark_V. on 8/29/13


1 Corinthians 11:7
For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.


But I believe this is what Lidia meant, as well as what others meant. So don't be so quick to take a bow Markv.
---kathr4453 on 8/28/13


And on that note , let's remember, God takes NO PLEASURE in the destruction of the wicked. Therefore the wicked are not here for God's pleasure, nor is their destruction. They will be judged, and destroyed, out of their own free will to turn away from the very God who created them. Romans 1-2 explain exactly what happened. MAN did it to himself.
---kathr4453 on 8/28/13


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Adetunji, that is a very good point. Thank you so much. I have read the statement that God created man to give Him glory, many times. And I have always thought it was wrong. But many Christians make statements that sound good many times, and people believe them, but are not really biblical at all. Again, thanks and peace be with you,
---Mark_V. on 8/28/13


Mark_V: In support of your last comment, my KJV Bible tells me that God made all things for HIS pleasure Rev.4:11(not for HIS glory).
---Adetunji on 8/28/13


Cluny, here are two points to consider as far is God is concern. God is in need of nothing. That God created man, was only because of the purpose He had in creating His plan. God is self-sufficient.
If God's purpose was to create man for His own glory, He would have created all man for His own glory. He would not have created man to also condemn Him, blaspheme Him also. And since He is all knowing (Omniscient) He knew man would sin and not give Him glory. So He could not have created man for His glory.
That He receives glory from some of them, that is true, but He is not in need of it.
---Mark_V. on 8/28/13


Markie: You will never understand the true nature of man because you don't understand the true character of God. GOD IS LOVE!!! Love requires someone to share that love with and to reciprocate OF THEIR OWN FREE WILL. You can't conceive of man as a free moral agent, with the ability to return true love to God by his own FREEDOM OF CHOICE. Thus, you can never understand why God made us special. Are your children special? Do they love you of their own FREE WILL?




---jerry6593 on 8/28/13


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Hello sister Lidia, here is what I know about God. If God created man for His own glory, He did a terrible job of that, because millions don't glory in God. And God never does a terrible job. Everything He does is perfect for He is perfect. If He had created man for His own glory, all man would glorify Him. As I said, man do give Him glory, but not all of them. He is not in any need of glory.
---Mark_V. on 8/28/13


Jerry, "What is man that God is mindful of".

To be made in the image of God is something even the Angels were never given.
---kathr4453 on 8/28/13


Hello,Yeah Bro.Mark that' what we always heard long as I can remember God made man for His glory! I think it like you love your children, maybe God wanted a special relationship with us but you know we not all we ought to be because Adam & Eve "mess it all up!"

Just a thought..
Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 8/27/13


\\Why did God create man? \\

To lavish His love upon us.

\\The same reason He create bugs, animals, the heavens and the earth. It was the plan He choose to use.
---Mark_V. on 8/27/13\\

Well, I cannot prove that God does not lavish His love upon bugs and animals, and I'll leave it at that.

The entire physical and spiritual universes exist and are sustained only because of God's overflowing loving creative will.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/27/13


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Shira, God did not create man for His glory. God in need of nothing. He is totally perfect in need of nothing. Sure, man do bring glory to Him, yet God endures endless blasphemies against His name, along with rebellion, murderers and the on going breaking of His law by other man, waiting patiently while He is calling and redeeming His own.
Why did God create man? The same reason He create bugs, animals, the heavens and the earth. It was the plan He choose to use.
---Mark_V. on 8/27/13


God made man for His glory but when man sinned, God was sorry He had made them.
---shira4368 on 8/27/13


Jerry, I did answer the question you asked, I said I have never spoken about Darwin. You made that up out of your heart. How you could come out with that does not surprise me, another comment came out the heart of Steven. You guys don't have any Scripture to give other then the laws.
I do believe in the six day creation, but I do not believe there was anything special about man. You think man is special, you give him the glory that belongs only to God. God was not in need of nothing when He created man and animals. God is self contained, self-sufficient, self-satisfied, in need of nothing. The creating of man when He did, added nothing to God essentially. He changes not (Mal. 3:6).
---Mark_V. on 8/26/13


Steven, I did search my heart this morning before I prayed for you and others on CN.
So now you say,
"So, Mark V, are you saying that Jesus is greater than God the Father that Jesus would make a covenant with God? Hogwash"
Only you could think of such a statement. All from your heart to your mouth, to your fingers to write, for all to hear. You did not search your own heart before you set down to write.
No one is greater between the Father, Son and the Holy Spirit, since all Three Persons make up the Godhead. But all Three Persons are involve in the redemption of man. I suggest you study the Sovereignty of God. Search your own heart then do an online search.
---Mark_V. on 8/26/13


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Markie: Again you show your supernatural ability to discern the intents of others' hearts. But, as usual, you never answer the straightforward questions asked of you. You don't believe that man is any different than the animals - a concept that parallels Darwinism, and yet you won't admit to it. Instead, in your usual manner, you go on a rant about something completely irrelevant.

Try answering this: Do you believe the six-day Creation account of Genesis, with Adam's special creation on day six or not?




---jerry6593 on 8/26/13


IF Man is not special, then why is the God of the world dying for man
---francis on 8/24/13

As universalist you will have problems dealing with the fact that YAHSHUA....died to redeem Israel through widowhood. Not man in general.

Psa_130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
Hos_13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave, I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues, O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Gal_4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
---Trav on 8/26/13


Mark_V.: "...words that come out of your heart because you have nothing good in your heart to contribute to others. It is all bad."

You may want to search your own heart, Mark V.
---Steveng on 8/25/13


Mark_V.: "Jesus before the foundation of the world, made a covenant with the Father and the Spirit, that he would come and gives His human incarnate life for the sins of many."

So, Mark V, are you saying that Jesus is greater than God the Father that Jesus would make a covenant with God? Hogwash. Jesus is nothing without God the Father. Jesus said so himself.
---Steveng on 8/25/13


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---Mark_V. on 8/25/13
So if man is not special, no different from any animal, why did the son of God die for man, and not for the animals who suffer from the effects of sin also?
---francis on 8/25/13


Jerry, don't you have something better to contribute to your cause? Is this all you can come out with? Here you" say,
"MarkV: Are you saying that mankind derived from the lower animals by Darwinian Evolution,"
I have not spoken about Darwin, or Evolution. Those and many others are your own words that come out of your heart because you have nothing good in your heart to contribute to others. It is all bad. That is the way legalism teachers react when confronted with the Truth.
You want to speak about Darwin or evolution, go to Warwick, he is doing a good job speaking against it.
He can give you some help concering Darwin and evolution.
---Mark_V. on 8/25/13


MarkV: Are you saying that mankind derived from the lower animals by Darwinian Evolution, and that's why he is nothing special? Are you denying that God breathed the breath of life into Adam's nostrils (unlike the animals)? Are you claiming that man was not formed in the image of God (unlike the animals)? Do you assert that man was not made a little lower than the angels (unlike the animals)?

Just asking!



---jerry6593 on 8/25/13


christan: "To declare to your fellow man they're special without telling them they must first repent is nothing short of being untruthful."

First of all, the issue is one of Creation - not of man's depravity. It is about God's intent for man - not man's failures.

Calling yourself "christan" when you are actually "Mark V" is untruthful.



---jerry6593 on 8/25/13


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francis, you say,
"IF Man is not special, then why is the God of the world dying for man"
First of all God is not dying for man. God does not die. He is Spirit. The Son of man in His humanity died one time and is not dying now. His flesh died, but His Divine nature never dies.
Jesus before the foundation of the world, made a covenant with the Father and the Spirit, that he would come and gives His human incarnate life for the sins of many. He perfectly accomplished the will of the Father.
---Mark_V. on 8/25/13


francis, you believe sinful man is special,
---Mark_V. on 8/24/13
LOL LOL

IF Man is not special, then why is the God of the world dying for man

he did not die to Satan or any of the angel which he created
He did not die for any of the animals although the animals which he created also suffer from the result of sin

he died for man, because man is special, and because he created man in a VERY SPECIAL WAY

God called all the animals into being, but God FORMED MAN and God BREATHED his breath into man
---francis on 8/24/13


Francis: "If man is not special, then we are just another animal, evolved from other primates, and no different than them"

Exactly! Unfortunately, several of the contributors here actually believe that, contrary to the Bible, darwinistic Evolution played at least some part in the creation of mankind.



---jerry6593 on 8/24/13


francis, you believe sinful man is special, but of course you would feel that way. Most here on line give the glory to man with their works for salvation instead unto God. Sinful man defeats God on every corner that God does not know what to do. That is the god that is presented by most of you. Which is ok because Scripture pronounced it would be that way with sinful man, because they are self righteous.
When I speak about the Soverignty of God, sinful man gets all push-out of shape, get angry, and even throw the devil. But there is only One God, who does as He pleases with whomever He pleases, whenever He pleases.
---Mark_V. on 8/24/13


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If man is not special, then we are just another animal, evolved from other primates, and no different than them
---francis on 8/23/13


The only thing I can pick out of those verses you quoted are, "hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself,..... and an holy (separate) people ...But to support "you're special", not even close.
---christan on 8/22/13

Well I see your point and raise you a scripture. Were you "special" to your husband. Uncomparable to any other? (At least at the beginning?)
So was Israel. She was a wife to GOD.

Jer_3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD, for I am married unto you: and I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, and I will bring you to Zion:

Pretty special treatment to me. Special blessings, covenants etc. Special punishments on the flip side.
---Trav on 8/23/13


Man is special. God gave man the wisdom to have dominion over all His creation on this earth Gen.1:26.
---Adetunji on 8/23/13


Linda, like I said, you call Truth a lie. You only proof what is in your heart. Jesus told the disciples to give the Truth, if those they spoke to were not worthy, to take their peace with them. I will do the same with you.
---Mark_V. on 8/23/13


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Indeed Cluny! Ty for that.

Anyone can spout scripture and twist it. Just as satan did with Christ.
---LindaH on 8/22/13


Heb2:6 But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man, that thou visitest him?
Heb2:7 Thou madest him a little lower than the angels, thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
---trey on 8/22/13


MAN IS VERY SPECIAL

Every living creature has suffered the effects of sin, yet God only died for man
---francis on 8/22/13


\\Linda, I give you Scripture (Dan. 4:35) God's very word, and you say to me for giving that passage,\\

Satan gave the very Word of God to Jesus, but he remained Satan.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/22/13


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Linda, I give you Scripture (Dan. 4:35) God's very word, and you say to me for giving that passage,
"You sound like the devil, MarkV."
That is how corrupt your heart is, you call the Word of God I gave you, of the devil. You call Truth a lie. What you really sound like is what most "free willers" sound like, using the devil for their defense. The devil is so close to your heart in every word you say. Most of them clearly show the salvation free willers possess. If God had saved them, Jesus would be in their hearts all the time, not satan.
---Mark_V. on 8/22/13


Humans in sin live as though they are just "animals" . . . according to "natural selection" and "survival of the fittest". Ones compete to be better than others, instead of laboring to be in a "tie for first place" in our Father's love, as Jesus has claimed in His own prayer > John 17:22-26.

So, Jerry . . . the *potential* of humans is special, that Jesus "might be the firstborn about many brethren", by being "conformed to the image of His Son" (Romans 8:29).
---willie_c: on 8/22/13


Trav, Deuteronomy 14:2, Exodus 19:6, Psalm 135:4, 1 Peter 2:9 doesn't tell us that "you're special"? Where in context do those verses tell you "you're special"? The word "special" doesn't even appear in any of those verses you quoted.

The only thing I can pick out of those verses you quoted are, "hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation, For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, But ye are a chosen generation" - merely supporting the doctrine of election nothing more, nothing less. But to support "you're special", not even close.
---christan on 8/22/13


/There is nothing special about man/ --- MarkV

Of course there is. We were made in the image of the God of creation and He loves us very much in spite of our fallen nature - enough to die for us.

Apparently He thought there was something special about us.

You sound like the devil, MarkV.

"they received not the LOVE of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie" (2 Thes 2:10,11)

Now I understand why you believe as you do.
---LindaH on 8/22/13


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jerry6593, but you said, "Is there really anything special about mankind, or are we just another evolved life form."? You know something? Either ways from your question, they're unbiblical.

And why do I say so? Firstly, the Bible doesn't even pat the man on his back and say to us that we're "special". What have you done in the eyes of the Holy God to make you "special"? How "special" do you think you are when Christ declared, "Unless ye repent, ye will likewise perish."? If you're so "special", why do you even need to repent?

To declare to your fellow man they're special without telling them they must first repent is nothing short of being untruthful.
---christan on 8/21/13


Don't kid yourself into thinking mankind is "special" before God.---christan on 8/19/13

Israel / special.
Deu_14:2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God,the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon earth.
Exo_19:6 ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Psa_135:4 For the LORD hath chosen Jacob unto himself, and Israel for his peculiar treasure.

1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people, that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
---Trav on 8/21/13


1 Kings 11:11_12 "Wherefore the LORD said unto Solomon, Forasmuch as this is done of thee, and thou hast not kept my covenant and my statutes, which I have commanded thee, I will surely rend the kingdom from thee, and will give it to thy servant. Notwithstanding in thy days I will not do it for David thy father's sake: but I will rend it out of the hand of thy son."

1 Kings 15:5 "Because David did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, and turned not aside from any thing that he commanded him all the days of his life, save only in the matter of Uriah the Hittite."
---Nana on 8/21/13


There is nothing special about man. Nothing special about the whole of mankind. God was in need of nothing when He decided to create mankind. Here is what the Word of God says concerning man,
"All inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing, He does according to His will in the army of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand, or say to Him, "what does thou?" (Dan. 4:35).
Divine sovereignty means that God is God in fact, as well as in name, that He is on the Throne of the Universe directing all things, working all things, after the counsel of His own will.
---Mark_V. on 8/21/13


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Man in himself is not anything special to himself or to God.
If you believe otherwise you are deluding yourself.
"all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags"

For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: (It is only because of God, man is anything at all.)

You said:
God spoke all the plants and animals into existence, but (He carefully constructed) man out of "dust" and (then kneeled over him and personally) breathed life into his nostrils.
Isn't this adding to the word?

And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground.
(Let's stop here isn't the "dust of the ground" dirt?)
So without God, again we are dirt!
Peace
---TheSeg on 8/21/13


Cluny: "Any ideas about God's plan for other species, including plants, is mere speculation."

Any evolutionary ideas about Creation other than the literal 6-day account in Genesis is mere speculation.




Christan: "Don't kid yourself into thinking mankind is "special" before God. Anyways, you sound more like an evolutionist than a Christian."

You win the prize for the most self-contradictory post. I am most definitely pro-Christian and anti-evolutionist.



---jerry6593 on 8/21/13


Evolutionists cite man's pedigree as the sons of ape-ish beasts, which were the sons of amphibians, .... ,which were the sons of mollusks ... which were the sons of amoeba, which were the sons of ?????????


But the Bible says:


Luk 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Now that's pretty special!!!!!

God spoke all the plants and animals into existence, but He carefully constructed man out of "dust" and then kneeled over him and personally breathed life into his nostrils.

Now that's pretty special!!!!!




---jerry6593 on 8/21/13


That would depends on what you believe to be the truth!
As a man you cannot look at anything and see anything special in it, no!
But as one of the Sons of God, you should be able to look at everything and everyone and realize just how special they are!

That you're Father in heaven would sacrifice his begotten Son, for you!
So that you would be able to receive his actual Spirit!

Now, if you feel this is not special!
What would you have me say to you?
To whom else has the word of God been revealed!

Don't feel special, yet?
Don't you realize you have been picked by God!
To become one of his Sons, a Son Of God!
A Special, Peace!
---TheSeg on 8/20/13


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"They were and can be special. And will be again." Trav

The verses you quoted from Psalm 2:1,8/106:35, Ezekiel 37:28 does not imply that mankind He's saving are special to Him but rather says that God is indeed gracious and merciful to those who are deserving of death. His mercy and grace is not the result that man has obeyed Him or seeked for Him at all. Paul summed it up pretty explicitly,

"For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth" Romans 9:11

Mankind are what they are, SINNERS, period.
---christan on 8/20/13


Genesis 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.

Unlike the rest of the lifeforms, Made was made in the image of God,

God actually formed man, whereas he called all other lifeforms into being
---francis on 8/20/13


Alan Alda had a good PBS special called human spark. It highlighted a few differences between animals and humans. For example humans are the only living things that teach, animals only imitate each other. Example of difference - Baby lion watchs mom lion kill for food, mom gets benefit of eating, baby does likewise. A math teacher teachs a student to do math - teacher does not see direct benefit - wealth, food, community, shelter, etc.
---Scott1 on 8/20/13


Is Mankind Special?

Isaiah 40:31 "But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run, and not be weary, and they shall walk, and not faint."

That is pretty special!

Along the same lines Daniel advices Nebuchadnezzar, "Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor, if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity. (Daniel 4:27)
---Nana on 8/20/13


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2 Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks aways to you brethren beloved of the Lord , has from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the spirit and belief of the truth,

Revelation 1:6 - And hath made us Kings and Priest unto God and his father, to him be the glory and dominion for ever and ever, Amen,

( God chosen/elect are beloved of God, and God is going to make them Kings, )
---RICHARDC on 8/19/13


Isaiah 40:17

"And all Daniel 4:35

Don't kid yourself into thinking mankind is "special" before God.
---christan on 8/19/13


They were and can be special. And will be again.
Psa_2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
Psa_2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Psa_106:35 But were mingled among the heathen, and learned their works.
Eze_37:28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
---Trav on 8/20/13


"All nations before him are as nothing, and they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity." Isaiah 40:17

"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?" Daniel 4:35

Don't kid yourself into thinking mankind is "special" before God. Anyways, you sound more like an evolutionist than a Christian.
---christan on 8/19/13


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