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Is It OK To Drink Wine

Is it ok to drink wine? Scripture doesn't speak against drinking wine, however, we need to understand a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. When they called Jesus a wine bibber it doesn't mean he was a drunk. Nothing good comes out of drinking so its best not to do it at all.. just saying

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Mark E and Cluny, you are both WRONG. Just because they didnt know the science behind pasteurization doesnt mean they didnt know how to do it. The ancients had numerous ways to preserve juices: 1) boiling it 2) filtering it 3) cold storage and 4) sulphur fumigation. There were also methods to preserve the grapes such that they could be squeezed at any time to make grape juice until the next vintage. Also, it is a misconception to believe that it was easier to preserve fermented wine rather than unfermented. Next time do your research and we can have an intelligent debate about it.
---jason9835 on 9/16/13


cluny, you are showing all of christianet how stupid your words are.
---shira4368 on 9/16/13

Why do you say this?

Scientific fact stands behind him to say that the wine HAD to be fermented.

All wine in the Bible is a fermented grape product, clear and simple.

Jesus drank fermented wine. He turned water into fermented wine. The guests at the wedding at Cana would not want to drink grape juice.

Ask Orthodox Jews if their wine is grape juice. You will get laughed off the planet.

Getting drunk is a sin. Drinking wine is not.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/16/13


\\cluny, you are showing all of christianet how stupid your words are.
---shira4368 on 9/16/13\\

I noticed you're not answering the question I asked about drink offerings in the Bible.

Why?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/16/13


cluny, you are showing all of christianet how stupid your words are.
---shira4368 on 9/16/13


\\You can say what you want, it matters not to me. I know what the bible says.
---shira4368 on 9/16/13\\

In other words, don't confuse you with facts. Your mind is made up.

And this is a question related to this blog:

What were the drink offerings mentioned in the OT?

Were they fermented or unfermented?

If they were unfermented, how did they stop fermentation from happening?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/16/13




cluny the bible is just as relavent today as it was 2000 yrs ago. Nothing has changed except man has changed. You can say what you want, it matters not to me. I know what the bible says.
---shira4368 on 9/16/13


The distinctions related being a wine bibber and a drunkard suggests that wine has two means one you drink a little two you drink a lot.

A little is different from drinking a lot.


Does the original word/s suggest two different types of wine???


If it did the answer would be clear. I drink a little wine occasionally, or perhaps more rare than often, the distinction is clear, one teaspoon is different from litres upon Litres week in week out, day in day out.


Simples ,)
---Carla on 9/16/13


\\You assume this was fermented?\\

You don't assume it was UNfermented, do you?

There is no way you can keep grape juice (or other fruit juices) from fermenting without pasteurization (unknown 2000 years ago) because it begins IMMEDIATELY from the natural yeasts on the skins.

Like shira, you are merely projecting 19th century cultural taboos traditions and precepts of men onto the Bible and customs at the time of its composition.

shira, every time you try to drag unrelated subjects onto here, such as why the just suffer and the Trinity, you are deflecting because you are unconsciously admitting to yourself that your attitude towards wine is wrong.

Get over it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/15/13


Contrary to what some are saying here, references to wine in both the OT and NT can refer to a whole host of grape related products including fermented and unfermented drink. One needs to look at the context to understand what is being referred to. It is very PRESUMPTIOUS to say wine is generally or always referring to intoxicating drink because that is just not so.
---jason9835 on 9/15/13


//Luke 1:15 Only Nazirites were prohibited wine, not everyone.// StrongAxe

Not entirely correct, Nazarites were prohibited from eating ANY grape product including grapes themselves [Num 6:3].

//Nothing wrong with USING alcohol. 1 Tim 5:23 // Michael e

You assume this was fermented? Funny how people think wine would be better for you than grape juice. Is it the alcohol? If this was the case then I guess strong drink would be even better, LOL.

Regarding the wedding feast, I highly doubt Christ made fermented wine because kings and princes were forbidden to drink wine and strong drink [Prov 31:4] and he is King of Kings and Prince of Peace. Furthermore, we are not to be among those who are drinking wine [Prov 23:20]
---jason9835 on 9/15/13




cluny, I have been on here long enough that I have no need to deflect. you know I am straight forward. as far as wine goes, Jesus did not drink something that God warned us NOT to do.
---shira4368 on 9/14/13


\\there are many things I don't understand. one is why does bad things happen to good people? can you answer that??
---shira4368 on 9/13/13
\\

You're deflecting again, shira.

The subject of this thread is NOT about why the righteous suffer.

It's about wine and the drinking thereof.

BTW, shira, just what do you think the drink offerings in the OT were? Lemonade?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/14/13


Carla, I know what the bible says about a little wine for their stomach's sake. some would drink a little wine to kill bacteria in the water. some places were contaminated. the bible don't say that but history does.
---shira4368 on 9/14/13


1 James 5:23
A little wine for the stomach sake.

It Means Just That one can have a little when stomach feels queezy or one wants a little red or white wine.

Alcoholics are Alcoholics drunkards are drunkards.

are you to drink other alcoholic beverages let your own conscience speak since your children will see your example and follow your footsteps.

Don't drink a substance you know is difficult to control. Its permissible, but it is not necessary. It can cause others to fall, you choose!
---Carla on 9/14/13


Millions have died because of wine and alcohol in all its forms. Mothers were told not to drink wine which we know today causes fetal alcohol syndrome. Priests were not to drink wine it lead to the death of two of Aarons sons died. Lev. 10,9

I stand as a priest before my GOD. I will not help the work of the devil.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/13/13


cluny what I told you is bible. I never claimed to know everything, but I do believe the bible. it would do you good to believe it also. there are many things I don't understand. one is why does bad things happen to good people? can you answer that??
---shira4368 on 9/13/13


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\\I don't know the answer you are seeking all I know is Jesus is not going to do something that God condemned in the bible. there are many things I don't understand. \\

This reminds me of a bit of dialogue from INHERIT THE WIND:

Brady: I don't think about things...I...I don't think about.
Drummond: Do you ever think about things you do think about?

As regards Trinitarian theology, since there are so many people here who don't believe that the Son and Spirit are of the same essence as the Father, it would not be a fruitful discussion, especially in a blog about wine.

Or are you merely trying to deflect, shira?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/13/13


cluny, what part of "strong drink is raging" don't you understand????
---shira4368 on 9/13/13


//Just what do you think was in the cup Jesus blessed at the Last Supper? Iced tea? Grape juice (impossible 2000 years ago)? Kool-aid?// Cluny

So the bread they ate was unleavened, but the fruit of the vine they drank was leavened?? Leaven represents impurity, corruption, imperfection, etc. Not a picture of the Christ I know. Oh and why exactly was it impossible to have grape juice 2000 years ago?
---jason9835 on 9/13/13


\\I don't know the answer you are seeking\\

At least you admit you don't know.

\\all I know is Jesus is not going to do something that God condemned in the bible. \\

But God did NOT condemn the drinking of wine or alcoholic beverages in the Bible, only drunkeness.

You are merely projecting your preconceived notions and cultural taboos based on traditions and precepts of men only God's holy Word.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/13/13


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cluny, it don't matter what anyone in spain does. why did you even bring that up. as far as your question. I don't know the answer you are seeking all I know is Jesus is not going to do something that God condemned in the bible. there are many things I don't understand. neither do you. do you understand how God and Jesus are one? can you understand how 3 entities are 1? no you don't. you think you are so smart, just go out and get you a bottle or two of wine and see what it does to you.
---shira4368 on 9/13/13


==all I know is wine, and strong drink is condemned in the bible and Jesus could not sin so He couldn't have drank wine as we know it has alcohol.
---shira4368 on 9/12/13==

I notice you leave my direct question about what beverage Jesus used at the Last Supper unanswered.

Yes, Jesus DID drink wine. His first miracle was making gallons of it.

Get over yourself. BTW, Baptists in Spain drink wine all the time. You're confusing the 19th century temperance (actually total abstinence) movement with the Gospel of Christ!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/13/13


cluny, let me ask you something. what is new wine? what is old wine? now you answer my question. all I know is wine, and strong drink is condemned in the bible and Jesus could not sin so He couldn't have drank wine as we know it has alcohol.
---shira4368 on 9/12/13


\\cluny and strongax, I just gave you scripture how God condemns strong drink. wine is strong drink just like all alcohol. everyone can choose to drink it but I will not.
---shira4368 on 9/11/13\\

Just what do you think was in the cup Jesus blessed at the Last Supper? Iced tea? Grape juice (impossible 2000 years ago)? Kool-aid?

Please answer my question.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/12/13


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Americans spent about 13 billion dollars on wine. MOney that could spread the gospel, feed the poor and save the lives of those who need help.

Please, do we have to go there? People in the US spend more money on chocolate than on wine. Should we stop eating chocolate? Jesus said "the poor you will always have with you" there is no amount of money that will totally eliminate poverty, and if you want to spread the Word, dig down deep in your own pocket and give to missions, or give to printers to print Bibles.
---Monk_Brendan on 9/11/13


Let me add that I have no dog in this hunt. I don't drink for many reasons, but not because I think it's sinful in itself.

Among other reasons, alcohol interferes with the medicines I take.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/11/13


cluny and strongax, I just gave you scripture how God condemns strong drink. wine is strong drink just like all alcohol. everyone can choose to drink it but I will not.
---shira4368 on 9/11/13


Perhaps some people here do not know that during the period the Bible was written, in the area around the Mediterranean, wine was NEVER drunk unmixed with water--sometimes as much as half and half.

Also when you crush grapes you get WINE, because fermentation starts immediately from the naturally occurring yeast on the skins of the grapes.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/10/13


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shira4368:

luke 1:15, the Lord warns not to drink wine or strong drink

Luke 1:15 only speaks of John the Baptist, who became a Nazirite. Nazirites vowed to refrain from wine, women, and cutting hair. (God only abandoned Samson after he violated all three). Only Nazirites were prohibited wine, not everyone.

1 Timothy 3:2 applies only to bishops. It would easy for Paul to tell ALL Christians to avoid wine, but he didn't. 1 Timothy 5:23 RECOMMENDS wine for a weak stomach.

All condemnations of wine in the Bible are because of drunkenness, and the danger that wine use easily leads to it. But it is the drunkenness that is the danger, NOT the wine itself. Drunkenness is universally condemned, but wine itself is not.
---StrongAxe on 9/10/13


hello Shira4368 Like we all agree, most alcoholics/ drunkards are UNBEARABLE! I know the Lord truly deliver me from it, the real " kick in the head" ( Paula) I will call her, she told me how horrible
I hit her she wight at least 400 lbs.
It scare me to think I could be so mean..
---Lidia4796 on 9/10/13


lidia, the bible don't say if Davie was drunk or not. it isn't legalistic to believe what God says is true. frankly, I won't be around someone who drinks..well I take that back because when I visit my brother, he drinks too much wine sometimes. when he starts watching the girls and making comments, I know he has gone too far with his wine. my husband drank too much everyday until he got saved in 2004. I saw first hand what strong drink can do to a person especially their family.
---shira4368 on 9/10/13


Wow! It makes me think, maybe
King David was drunk when he got himself in such a tangled mess with Bethsheba...
Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 9/10/13


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shira
Has everyone you know in your life, which drank, always got drunk?

Because that is just the point here!
Not everyone who wants a drink. Drinks to get drunk!
And everyone, even the people who drink will agree drunks are obnoxious!
They start fight, lost they heads, cant even hold a conversation!
We can all do without them!

If you have to drink to see the bottom of a bottle, then you really shouldnt drink.
Right now, I had a bottle of wine for about three weeks.
Its not going anywhere is it!

There is a big difference between someone who has a drink.
And someone who is a drunk or must drink!
No one likes a drunk, no one!
Not even the drunk!
Peace
---TheSeg on 9/10/13


Shira, my final words to you are, If you feel its wrong to drink a glass of wine, then don't drink it. It is pretty simple. Everyone knows what happens when someone drinks too much. No one needs lessons. I myself don't drink wine, beer or any strong drink. I just don't like to. But I am not going to be a legalist and insist no one does. I put no legal law on anyone, for all believers are under grace not under the law of any kind. The Spirit convicts us when we are wrong, and helps us make good decisions.
---Mark_V. on 9/10/13


markv, read what happened to noah when he drank wine. also lot did evil when he drank wine. proverbs says wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise. proverbs also says do not be among winebibbers. Isaiah 5:11 says it inflames. Isaiah 25: people who drink erred in thy ways. Isaiah says they stagger. Daniel tells kings not to drink wine. luke 1:15, the Lord warns not to drink wine or strong drink. 1st timothy 3:2 the bishop not to drink wine.
I have only scratched the surface. I stand on what I posted about wine.
---shira4368 on 9/9/13


Shira, I know you will not agree but that is ok. To you it is wrong to not drink a glass of wine, but to another it is not. What is unclean for you might not be unclean for another. The only place where I found a restriction concerning wine is when the angel of the Lord appeared to Zacharias while he was standing on the right side of the altar of incense. He was told about the son he was going to have, and that he (the son) shall drink neither wine nor strong drink (v Luke 1:15). The angel of the Lord did not say the same words to Mary or Joseph.
---Mark_V. on 9/9/13


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The Psalm calls wine a gift from God

Ps. 104:14-15: You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man...

Good enough for me..
---NurseRobert on 9/8/13


"Scott has finally said something that I agree with." Warwick

Cheers = )
---scott on 9/8/13


markv, there are more drunks on the road driving and of course some fat people die young. I "choose" not to do either. someone please look in the bible and dig out the truth. I honestly would like to know it. one thing for sure markv, fat people are not obnoxious but drunks are.
---shira4368 on 9/8/13


Shira, each believer should know what is right and what is wrong to do. If someone has a problem with any drinks, they should stay away from them. I know many die because of drunk drivers. I also know many die for eating too much, or smoking too much. Too much of anything is wrong. But we have to stop been legalistic when we look at others. We cannot compare ourselves with them and judge them because what we believe is not what they believe concerning personal matters. Like in a marriage problem, we cannot judge by what one person says here on line if we don't hear the otherside of the story. Plus not all marriage problems are the same. Some very close but not exactly the same.
---Mark_V. on 9/8/13


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Scott wrote "Is it ok to drink wine? What was Jesus' first miracle?"

It had to happen eventually.

Scott has finally said something that I agree with.
---Warwick on 9/8/13


Shira: I've attended legalistic churches, where the consumption of alcohol was kept secret.n Pennsylvania my last church was NOT legalistic. A couple years ago, I was out socially with a large group from church, including the pastor. Some in the group enjoyed a couple of drinks. Nobody in our group cared either way.

Whether a believer consumes alcoh or not is between that believer, God and their immediate family.
---Grandma on 9/7/13


\\markv, how can Jesus drink wine when he warns us about alcohol. do you think wine could be new wine? now I know there are no contradictions in the bible so explain this.
---shira4368 on 9/6/13\\

Jesus never said ANYTHING against alcohol, shira.

You won't find ONE VERSE in the Gospels where Jesus condemned it.

Evangelical cultural taboos are NOT Christianity.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/7/13


"Is it ok to drink wine?"

What was Jesus' first miracle?
---scott on 9/7/13


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markv,I agree with you somewhat but lets just imagine you are out where ever drinking a beer. what do you think the drinker does when he sees the pastor, saved friends, church family. I can tell you he would try and hide the beer. I use to do that with cigarettes. that was 35 yrs ago. now markv, I have exposed myself. lol
---shira4368 on 9/7/13


Samuel, of course those who abuse alcohol cause all sorts of problems including car accidents. Relevantly I saw statistics from the US which showed inntention was the major cause of accidents on US roads. Much of this stems from people talking/texting on mobile (cell) phones. However sensible and proper use of such phones is not a problem, only the abuse of them. The same is so for wine.

Why should spreading the gospel cost money? It is our privilege and responsibility to do so as part of our everyday lives.

Non-alcoholic wine is a misnomer as wine means fermented alcoholic grape juice. Crush some grapes and alcohol quickly begins to form naturally.
---Warwick on 9/7/13


Shira, Strongaxe is correct. Plus there is no contradictions in Scripture. I believe concerning genuine Christians, that they should follow their conscience. The Holy Spirit speaks to our conscience. What may be unclean or sin for one person might not be unclean for another. Some believe to drink a glass of wine is wrong, they should not go against conscience and drink. As believers the Spirit guides us and moves us to do and not to do certain things. Some here believe it is ok for a glass of wine, and very wrong for someone to have a glass of wine if it effects them wrong.
---Mark_V. on 9/7/13


For samuelbb7 ( with utmost respecf) You are correct! I got hit by a neighbor newphew in broad day light on a Thanksgiving day.. mind my own business walking to the store, I still have problems in my back and spine and it been many years ago.
He was high on alcohol,and drugs in his system, drive on 2xx suspended license and his high priced" hot shot"lawyer got him,off ! So,he can once again drive..pray to God he does not kill nobody! Next time..
Thankyou for your post brother.
---Lidia4796 on 9/7/13


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shira4368:

You said: how can Jesus drink wine when he warns us about alcohol.

Can you show any place where Jesus warns us about alcohol? I am not aware of any.

The Bible is full of admonitions against drunkenness. It also frequently condemns wine and strong drink - BECAUSE they cause drunkeness. But there also places where alcohol use is encouraged. It recommends wine for upset stomach (1 Timothy 5:23) and depression (Proverbs 31:6-7)

So it isn't that alcohol is evil in and of itself, but rather that it frequently leads to drunkenness, which should always be avoided.

(And I agree with Warwick here)
---StrongAxe on 9/6/13


markv, how can Jesus drink wine when he warns us about alcohol. do you think wine could be new wine? now I know there are no contradictions in the bible so explain this.
---shira4368 on 9/6/13


Americans spent about 13 billion dollars on wine. MOney that could spread the gospel, feed the poor and save the lives of those who need help.

Many of these same drinkers murder people on the road from drinking too much.

So I do not believe JESUS approves of wasting money on that which brings harm to yourself and others and is wasted on ourselves instead of helping others.

The wine today has a higher alcohol content then wine in the day of JESUS. Also during Passover all Yeast and fermentation was removed from the house so non alcoholic wine was all that was left.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/6/13


Jesus Himself drank wine at the last supper. He did not say, "never drink wine" but He said,
"For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Fathers Kingdom" (Matt. 26:28,29).
---Mark_V. on 9/6/13


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I strongly agree with Warwick answers. As believers, the Spirit speaks to our conscience. Each individual should follow his conscience to know what is right and what is wrong. To some, something might be a sin, while to others it might not be sin.
"I know and I am convicted by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean." (Rom. 14:14). And also says,
"Do you have faith? Have it to yourself before God. Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith, for whatever is not of faith is sin." (Rom. 14:22.23).
---Mark_V. on 9/5/13


Shira, thanks for the clarification.
---Warwick on 9/5/13


jed and warwick: I was giving an example how alcohol reduces someone to the extent it does with people who drink. if you drank and got drunk at your house, no one would know about it but you would know and God would know.
---shira4368 on 9/4/13


"The irony obviously evaded them..." Warwick

It had to happen eventually.

Warwick has finally said something that I agree with.
---scott on 9/4/13


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Shira, I said nothing about going to a bar or getting drunk. How is that inany way related to having a glass of wine with your spouse at dinner?
---Jed on 9/4/13


Leviticus 10:8 And the LORD spake unto Aaron, saying,

Leviticus 10:9 Do not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, nor thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tabernacle of the congregation, lest ye die: [it shall be] a statute for ever throughout your generations:

Leviticus 10:10 And that ye may put difference between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean,

What does wine and string drink have to do with clean and unclean, and holy and unholy?
1 Peter 2:9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a
---francis on 9/3/13


Shira there is little connection between getting drunk and having some wine over a meal.

I went to a restaurant in the US with some grossly overweight Christians. I looked at a bottle of Italian wine on display and a gross one said words to the effect of: it would be bad witness to our Christian brothers if you had wine. The irony obviously evaded them as their lifestyle produced their grossness but they thought that moral and a glass of wine immoral. I believe obesity in the US costs the health budget as much as excess consumption of alcohol. But we never see a blog-Should Christians make pigs of themselves at the table.

Drinking wine is to drunkenness as eating is to gluttony. Let us be moderate in all things.
---Warwick on 9/4/13


jed please look at the bar's parking lot on Friday and Saturday night. when people drink a lot of times they are just drunk and disgusting. when we were in the military for 23 yrs I saw much of that.
---shira4368 on 9/3/13


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If you're not mature enough to handle a glass of wine without taking it too far, then by all means, do not drink.
---Jed on 9/3/13


All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any - 1 Cor 6:12

Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin - Romans 14:22,23

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink, but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost - Romans 14:17

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ - Col 2:16,17
---Jasheradan on 9/3/13


Drinking for myself, NO way, I quit drinking years ago, and very glad give all the glory to JesusChrist. I love your posts both Grandma, Rita all respect to you. You drive a great point home both of you, if you have not Don't start and like Grandma mention it can cost you legal ( myself been run over drunk driver,still suffering from it!) It costly,other ways too.. thankyou Sisters! Love of Jesus
---Lidia4796 on 9/3/13


1st. Tim.5 v 23. That's all it says.

Does Not give way to beer, hard liquor vodka, scotch etc.
---Lawrence on 9/3/13


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Hi, Blessman (c: It doesn't say they meant only that Jesus was drinking without getting drunk.

God "gives us richly all things to enjoy." (in 1 Timothy 6:17) So, enjoying something in a good way is something good coming out of it . . . thanking our Father. There are flavors in your food that you could say do nothing good. In sharing affection there can be pleasures that you might not need but you enjoy without overdoing it. God gives us enjoyments. We don't stop sharing affection just because immoral and perverted people abuse it.

But Paul does say, "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any." (1 Corinthians 6:12)
---willie_c: on 9/3/13


Francis regarding Proverbs 23:31 Gill says "not that it is unlawful to look upon the colour of wine, and thereby judge of its goodness, but it should not be looked upon with a greedy eye, so as vehemently to desire it, which will lead to an intemperate use of it, just as looking upon a woman, so as to lust after her, is forbidden, Matthew 5:28,"

The proverb is not against temperate use of wine but the lusting after it which leads to intemperance. In referring to Matthew 5:28 Gill likens this to looking lustfully at a woman to whom you are not married which Jesus says is in itself adultery. Likewise appreciating the colour and flavour of a fine wine in proper context, not lustfulness, is not a problem.
---Warwick on 9/3/13


Proverbs 31:4 It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine, nor for princes strong drink:

Proverbs 31:5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.

Proverbs 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

Proverbs 31:7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
---francis on 9/2/13


For me it is more than ok to drink, there is no sin in it!
For me to tell you, its ok for you to drink. Is wrong!
Rom_14:1 Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations!

Rom_14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Rom_14:23 for whatsoever is not of faith is sin!

Rom_14:21 (It is good neither) to eat flesh, nor (to drink wine), (nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.)

Rom_15:1 We then that are strong ought to bear the infirmities of the weak, and not to please ourselves.

If you drink to get drunk you have a drinking problem!
Peace
---TheSeg on 9/2/13


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Scripture doesn't speak against drinking wine,
---Blessman on 9/2/13

Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise

Proverbs 23:31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, [when] it moveth itself aright.
---francis on 9/2/13


The bible tells us that it is wrong to be a drunkard. Many manage to drink without becoming drunk. I personally have never had any desire to try alcohol and am glad that I never did try it. I have seen very many alcoholics in the last 20 years or so and it destroys lives, not just the people themselves but their loved ones also.
Each person must decide for themselves but what I never tried I have never missed.
---Rita_H on 9/2/13


Nothing wrong with USING alcohol.
1 Tim 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities
---michael_e on 9/2/13


Blessman, drinking alcoholic wine is not forbidden in Scripture, in fact it is recommended e.g. Psalm 104:15, 1 Timothy 5:23. However we Christians are to be people of moderate habits, including what we eat and drink.

Luke 7:34 "The Son of Man has come eating and drinking, and you say, Look at him! A glutton and a drunkard,..." Jesus drank alcoholic wine but not to drunkenness, which is a guide to us. Possibly His detractors who accused Him of drunkenness did not know the difference between having a drink or two and getting drunk.
---Warwick on 9/2/13


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Drinking alcohol in moderation is okay. Drunkenness is not.

If a person has a history of drunkenness, then it is best to abstain. Alcoholism only gets worse, once it starts. And it is often pretty costly financially, legally, and relationally.
---Grandma on 9/2/13


Sometimes doctors prescribe drinking wine moderately to help some medical situations. Like many other things, it is EXCESS that changes okay to evil.
---Geraldine on 9/2/13


What is the point of asking a question then answering it yourself?

Or did you have a point?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/2/13


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