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Trav,
Why would I need to call an imaginary Jewish friend when I have quite a few of them?

Different to you I check my beliefs, by the counsel of my betters.
---Warwick on 9/24/13

Your betters. Without doubt. A worshiper of men.....certain men. Because they say they are. Id-10-T.

Rev_2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev_3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie, behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
---Trav on 9/27/13


Trav, you say,
"The Northern House being divorced lost their married name.....an are the "Lost Sheep" you never perceived in your 600+ pulpiteering.
Your mission is your thing, mine is sheep of Israel."

North house, south house, they are all lost. The only one's saved are those saved by grace through faith. it matters not from where you are from, or even where you are going, without faith in Jesus Christ, they will continue their trip to hell for rebelling against God.
"He who believes in Him is not condemned, "but he who does not believe is condemned already." Because he has not believed in the name of the only Begotten Son of God" (John 3:18). There is no back door.
---Mark_V. on 9/24/13


Trav, in your unique stumbling bumbling way you call my honesty into question. Why would I need to call an imaginary Jewish friend when I have quite a few of them?

Different to you I check my beliefs, by the counsel of my betters.

Kiwi?

---Warwick on 9/24/13


Warwick, it matters not what Trav has to say, what matters is the Word of God. The bottom line is that no one outside of Christ will make it into heaven. Divorced are married. If Jews die in trespasses and sins, they will head straight to hell. To me all things spoken of Israel in the Old Testament is the anti-type to the type who is Christ. Everything was fulfilled in Christ. That is why the Israel that will be saved is the Israel of God, God's spiritual Israel. Not Israel in the flesh. Right after Paul told his Gentile coverts, "And if you are Christ, then you are Abraham's Seed" (Gal. 3:29). Believers in Jesus are infused into the Seed, in other words, true Christians are part of God's spiritual Israel.
---Mark_V. on 9/24/13


To check that I am correct I phoned a Jewish friend who said that being Jewish is a bloodline and a Jew is still a Jew even if he is an unbeliever.
---Warwick on 9/19/13

Judean can be a Judean. New Covenant states the fact. And the House of Israel is House of Israel.
But preacherman you have to call another imaginary friend. Just because he/you says he is doesn't make it so kiwi. Rev 3:9.

My Bible says,
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

"And" with the house of Judah. Hmmmmm. Judean would be a little more correct....if correct is what you seek, I'll help you.
---Trav on 9/23/13




Mark,
This all began because Trav claims that when Paul said he was now going to the gentiles he was not going to the likes of you and me, but to Jewish Gentiles.
---Warwick on 9/23/13

All animosity aside....you reveal your dotage and confusion on the subject.
You, never seeing the other house of Israel. You perceive Judah as all Israel. I posted the New covenant for you so you can see the completed house. The Northern House being divorced lost their married name.....an are the "Lost Sheep" you never perceived in your 600+ pulpiteering.
Your mission is your thing, mine is sheep of Israel.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 9/23/13


Mark, I am sure the millions of secular Jews who can trace their ancestry back thousands of years would be quite surprized that they have now been made gentiles.
---Warwick on 9/23/13


I never even remotely stated this. You've worked a deviance.
A clone now, I see. Twisting, what you cannot tolerate into a fabrication. Unless you are ignorant. Possible perhaps, in regard to topic.
Which is it?
The Nth House of Israel all but Judah and part of Benjamin were divorced Jer 3:8, and did lose their married name/position of Israel. Even though retaining line.

2Ti_4:14 Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works:

Likewise as per Paul if not found ignorant.
---Trav on 9/23/13


Mark, I am sure the millions of secular Jews who can trace their ancestry back thousands of years would be quite surprized that they have now been made gentiles. They must now wonder why the Nazis exterminated millions of their fellow Jews when if you are correct they weren't Jews!

This all began because Trav claims that when Paul said he was now going to the gentiles he was not going to the likes of you and me, but to Jewish Gentiles. If he is correct we being gentile Gentiles cannot be saved.
---Warwick on 9/23/13


Warwick 2: when you said,
"
Mark, Christianity is essentially Jewish as we follow the Lord Jesus Christ, the Jewish Messiah. So spiritually we are grafted in."
. I believe that is very true. Someone who "is called a Jew" because he is a physical descendant of Abraham, and yet who lives as a lawbreaker, is "not a Jew" His circumcision has become uncircumcission. To God he is a Gentile. And a believing Gentile, who through faith keeps "the righteous requirements of the law" his circumcision is "counted as circumcision" To God he is a Jew.
---Mark_V. on 9/23/13


Warwick, I do not doubt that the dictionary explains what is a Jew. That is very true that it says that, but that is not what Paul said a Jew was.
"For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter, whose praise is not from men but from God" (Rom. 2:28,29). Here Paul makes clear who is a Jew in the eyes of God. Even though many believe all of those the dictionary mentions are Jews, Paul makes a distinction.
---Mark_V. on 9/22/13




Mark, Christianity is essentially Jewish as we follow the Lord Jesus Christ, the Jewish Messiah. So spiritually we are grafted in.

The Oxford dictionary defines Jew as :a member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins to the ancient Hebrew people of Israel." Therefore one can be a Jew by birth, by lineage, but not be a believer in God. As Paul says they play no part in God's gift of salvation because they have no faith. But that does not stop them being Jewish.
---Warwick on 9/21/13


Warwick, I did not give my opinion or some Jews opinion on what I stated. Those were the words of Paul. Jesus said the same thing to a certain group of Jewish people when they said that Abraham was their father. Jesus responded,
"If" you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham" (John 8:39). They also claimed to be Abraham's children, but they lacked true faith. By saying "if" you were Abraham's children' Jesus denied their claim. Christ then continued with
"But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth, which I heard from God. Abraham did not do this. You do the deeds of your father" (John 8:40-41). Abraham was not their father, the devil was.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/13


Warwick 2: I remember when I first heard about all Israel was one day be saved. Most commentaries state that. I always wondered how those who died already rejecting the Lord how they could be saved when they are dead already. So I did a deep study on everything I could concerning Israel, Jacob, to find some truth that could help me understand the subject. Do we become Jews? do Jews become Gentiles? is all Israel going to be saved? All in history or only those in the future? How does Israel of the Old Testament differ from the Israel of God? so many questions, so I studied hard on the subject. I just posted a blog concerning Israel, hope to communicate with you there. peace.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/13


Mark, I know that being born Jewish is no guarantee of salvation. However those who are of Jewish stock, but not believers, are still Jewish. Jewish defines both race, culture, and religion.

To check that I am correct I phoned a Jewish friend who said that being Jewish is a bloodline and a Jew is still a Jew even if he is an unbeliever. Even if he follows Jesus as his Saviour he is still a Jew.
---Warwick on 9/19/13


My witness is God in His word.
---Mark_V. on 9/19/13


Someone who is "called a Jew" because he is a physical descendant of Abraham , and yet who lives as a lawbreaker, is not a Jew. His circumcision has become uncircumcision. To God he is a Gentile. John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, and Paul all agree that natural lineage is not enough to enter heaven. No matter from what tribe you are from. Whether someone is of the Israel of God depends upon one's faith and spiritual charactor. There is no special back door for those who died rejecting the Lord no matter the tribe.
---Mark_V. on 9/18/13


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Trav, .... but you only accept Scriptures which appear to support your unbiblical beliefs.
---Warwick on 9/16/13

For the record. Two + witnesses is fact. All scripture is useful. Sheep acknowledge that KJV is a translation. Expanding when researched with a concordance/hebrew.
GOD provides witness scriptures for any doctrinal question in multiples if one searches/confirms/believes. Freeing us from doctrines dressed as sheep or just plain indoctrinated circular ignorance. The kind that cannot answer the "other" questions.
Gen_37:16 And he said, I seek my brethren: tell me, I pray thee, where they feed their flocks.
Psa_24:6 This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.
---Trav on 9/18/13


Trav, as one sheep to another it appears you are saying that some Jews are Gentiles. ---Warwick on 9/17/13

Ha, when you try being clever feigning ignorance it works...... in part.

For the sheep that are seeking truth/gospel the House of Israel put away/Divorced are the nations/ethnos, rather than a latin description preferred by Rome,gentile

Jews/Judeans make up 2/12ths of Israel. The Northern house, divorced (no marriage name).... "Lost Sheep" are the "Ten".
Jer 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce, yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
---Trav on 9/18/13


Trav, I do know what Scripture says but you only accept Scriptures which appear to support your unbiblical beliefs.

So what are the non-Jews called in your story?
---Warwick on 9/16/13

Non Judeans addressed/searched for by scripture are "Lost Sheep". Former Israelites, divorced.

Pretty strong statement, unbiblical beliefs.
Yet the scriptural witnesses i've provided are multiple and specific. The observation is that you must avoid those as they tear down your house of sand preaching you done 600times. Your problem is not me....but, "witnessing scriptures". Attempting to climb another way.
Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
---Trav on 9/18/13


Two kinds of Jews, those in the flesh, those in the Spirit. Paul said,
"Indeed you are called a Jew, and rest on the law, and make your boast with God..For circumcision is indeed profitable "if" you keep the law, but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumsion has become uncircumcision. Therefore "if" an ucircumcised man (a Gentile) keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his circumcision be counted as circumcision? For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh: but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter, whose praise is not from men but from God" (Rom. 2:17,25-26,28-29.
---Mark_V. on 9/18/13


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Trav, as one sheep to another it appears you are saying that some Jews are Gentiles. Is that what you claim? I know it sounds ridiculous but it appears that is what you are saying. Please clear this up.
---Warwick on 9/17/13


You quote much Scripture, often irrelevant to the topic.
So what are the non-Jews called in your story?
---Warwick on 9/16/13

Sheep are irrelevant to your understanding and doctrine. As you have made very apparent. But then you have nothing to offer a sheep.

In your case gentile a latin word would have been heathen/pagan. In Acts it would have applied to the "ethnos/nations" of the Northern House of Israel divorced/put away from GOD. Judah/Benjamin did have the first opportunity....and the Apostles most of who were of Benjamin did accept. Judas of course.... the exception.

Jer 2:4 Hear ye the word of the LORD, O house of Jacob, and all the families of the house of Israel:
---Trav on 9/16/13


Trav, I do know what Scripture says but you only accept Scriptures which appear to support your unbiblical beliefs.

You quote much Scripture, often irrelevant to the topic.

Jesus said "And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them also, and they will listen to my voice. So there will be one flock, one shepherd." I heard, I followed and as one of the other sheep not of this fold" i.e. not Jewish, I was saved. Paul spoke of us " ..Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent. From now on I will go to the Gentiles" Acts 18:6. But you tell us the Gentiles were Jews. So what are the non-Jews called in your story?
---Warwick on 9/16/13


Trav, any wolf deceiver can make any case by selectively taking Scriptures out of overall context.

If what you write is true then you are in trouble as you aren't Jewish.
---Warwick on 9/11/13

Well sir you made my case. Calling you a wolf previous because you pose as an authority but do not have a foundation for your doctrines.

I provide at least two witnesses (there are hundreds) to free any man from my opinion. You will not discuss sheep scripture posted. Not once. You cannot... scripture is against you.

It would be no problem not being Judean. Except in your confused doctrines. Unbelieving and judean...yes.

In my heritage tree the last name was changed from Israel because of persecution.
---Trav on 9/16/13


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"Why did God give us Jesus?" Love.
Father "so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes on him should not perish, but have eternal life." Jn 3:16
He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Rom 8:32
---josef on 9/15/13


Mark V, No. Here is what I said. The Law and the Prophets are authentic because Jesus spoke and quoted from them. I include in this the 4 major prophets and the twelve minor prophets. The other parts of the Old Testament are histories that do not pertain to salvation. I read them and enjoy them as history.

I have no problem with the eyewitness gospels of Matthew, Mark (writing for Peter) John, the epistles of John 1,2,3, Jude and the book of Revelation. That would leave out all of Paul's writings, James, Peter, (unverified that Peter wrote it) and the unknown writer of Hebrews.
---barb on 9/15/13


barb 2: In fact, you do not have to believe any part of the Bible if don't want. It is all up to you. I am not saying you have to believe it all, but if you are born of God you would believe the Word of God, Scripture.
But again, you don't have to. Can I change your heart? I know I cannot. The only One that can is God. Have a great day.
---Mark_V. on 9/15/13


barb, did you not argue that only the words of Jesus and when God spoke in the Bible were to be believed? including the four gospels, Revelation and 1,2,3 John and the rest were not biblical because as you said they contained errors. That puts all other books out. My point was that Jesus quoted almost all the books in the Old Testament as Truth. And if He said they were truth, shouldn't you believe that? I know you have a problem with Paul. That means you do not believe almost all of the New Testament. Because you have a problem with Paul. I said Jesus didn't lie. You should believe in His words concerning all of Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 9/15/13


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Mark V, I NEVER said Jesus lied when He quoted from the Old Testament. Do not put words into my mouth and do not twist my words to your own benefit.

Jesus is the Truth and cannot lie, that is why all liars will be outside the Kingdom of God. Rev 22:15.
---barb on 9/14/13


Kathr4453, Me too. I like your answer.
---barb on 9/14/13


barb, your arguments are that only what Jesus said and what God said are true. What everyone else said is not true. That all the other servents of God who spoke in the Bible, their words are not true.
Jesus gave references to hundreds of topics in the Old Testament that writers wrote. If you believe He lied when He quoted all those books, then how can you say you only believe what He said? You say, you only trust in the books of the gospel and Revelation. Make up your mind, do you trust in Jesus or not.
Now you ask: " Do you know the difference between the Passover Lamb and the goat of Atonement?"
Of course, one is the type and the other is the anti-type.
---Mark_V. on 9/14/13


kathr4453 I like that answer "RECONCILED BACK TO GOD"
---Bryan on 9/14/13


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God gave us Jesus to reconcile man back with God.
---kathr4453 on 9/13/13


Mark V, Jesus was the Passover Lamb. Do you know the difference between the Passover Lamb and the goat of Atonement? You can read and study it in Exodus 12 and Lev 16.

Jesus did warn us about being deceived by lies in Matt 13:18-43. The wheat/truth are sown by Jesus and the tares/lies are sown by Satan. Both grow together in the same place right up until the harvest.

Jesus never verified the New Testament because it was not written until after He returned to Heaven. We know His Words given to us by His eyewitness disciples are true beause of what He told them in John 14:26.


---barb on 9/13/13


barb, If Jesus is to be believed, then His attitude toward Scripture will provide the best answer to the question of "inerrancy." Jesus gave references to Abel (Luke 11:51) Noah Matt. 24:37-39) Abraham (John 8:56) the institution of circumcism (John 7:22), Sodom and Gomorrah (Matt. 10:15) Lot (Lk. 17:28) Isaac and Jacob (Matt. 10:15, 11:23) the manna (John 6:31) the wilderness serpent (John 3:14) and almost all of the Old Testament, the fact is, Jesus believed they were all true. Your saying it's possible Jesus knew Scripture contained human errors yet never made this fact known to His followers, misleading them rather then teaching them the Truth, He could hardly be qualified as a great teacher and as the incarnated God of Truth.
---Mark_V. on 9/13/13


Barb 2: the problem is that you do not believe in the Word of God, Scripture and Jesus did because He quoted from all the Old Testament. If He declares it is without error, then you are calling Jesus a liar. You had said,
"In order for the sacrifice of animals to have effect, Israel had to obey the rules of the Kingdom (Isaiah 1:11)" animal sacrifices never saved anyone. People are saved by the sacrifice of Christ. Then say,
" just as we have to abide in and obey the Words of Jesus so that we can enter into God's Kingdom" we do not enter the kingdom of God by obeying, we enter by been born again by the Spirit.
---Mark_V. on 9/13/13


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Mark V, your problem is that you don't know the difference between the words of God and words of Paul but never mind, there is still hope for both of us.

I never said we do not have to be born by the Holy Spirit to enter into the Kingdom. Being born into the Kingdom is an ongoing process of learning and putting into practice what we learn from the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth. John 14:26. I tried to show you the graduates of the class in Rev 12:17 but I was misunderstood. Maybe you will recognize these saints (born again for sure). "Here is the patience of the "saints", here are they that keep the commandments of God and have the faith of Jesus". Rev 14:12.
---barb on 9/12/13


Why did God give us Jesus?
To follow.Jn1:1-15

Hebrew: Torah (translated "law") A Set of Instructions

Prov1:8"Listen, my son, to your father's instruction and do not forsake your mother's teaching [H8451Torah]."
Prov 1:8My son, hear the instruction of thy father,
and forsake not the law of thy mother:

Prov 3:1"My son, do not forget my teaching [H8451Torah], but keep my commands in your heart".
Proverbs 3:1 My son, forget not my law,
but let thine heart keep my commandments

Psa 94:12"Blessed is the man you discipline, O LORD, the man you teach from your Torah" [H8451]
Ps 94:12Blessed is the man whom thou chastenest, O LORD,
and teachest him out of thy law,
---char on 9/12/13


barb, your problem is you do not believe the Word of God, Scripture, second, you interpret the passages in Rev. 12:17) wrong.
Third, Jesus said you must be born again to enter the kingdom of God. You say no. Second, the law saves no one. Animal sacrifices were not sufficient to save anyone, the reason they did them over and over, only the perfect sacrifice of Christ can forgive sins. God's word in Romans 3:20 says "Therefore by the deeds of the law no flesh will be justified in His sight, for by the law is the knowledge of sin" That is all it is. A tutor. (Rev. 12:17) first of all some parts of the verse are symbolic. You have to first know the symbolic meanings of what is talked about, then you can interpret the passage.
---Mark_V. on 9/12/13


Trav, any wolf deceiver can make any case by selectively taking Scriptures out of overall context.

If what you write is true then you are in trouble as you aren't Jewish.
---Warwick on 9/11/13


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I am confused. I did not say go sin or teach others to sin. I said that sin only existed because of the law and we are all guilty of breaking the law and the only way to break the law is a sacrifice.
---Scott1 on 9/11/13


Mark V, show me where God or His Son said "there is no salvation under the law" and I will believe you.

Here are those born by the Holy Spirit "And the dragon was wroth at the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." Rev 12:17. God's Word is the same in the beginning as in the end. You are not saying that I am wrong, you are saying that God is wrong because all I have done is used His Word and not the words of another.
---barb on 9/11/13


barb, your answer is wrong, Israel was under the law of obedience, and no one can keep all of the laws. That's why there was no salvation under the law. Those under the law are the children of wrath, the wrath of God is upon them. Those under the grace of God are not under the law, our works cannot save us. You said,
"In order for the sacrifice of animals to have effect, Israel had to obey the rules of the Kingdom (Isaiah 1:11) (but they couldn't) just as we have to abide in and obey the Words of Jesus so that we can enter into God's Kingdom where His blood sacrifice will cover us"
the second part wrong, in order to enter the kingdom of heaven we need to be born again of the Spirit by God. That's the work of God.
---Mark_V. on 9/11/13


GOD IN THE FLESH. I am going to sum this us for all of us! Jesus came...He didn't have to. He came to buy us back. To redeem us from Satan. Adam's blood was poisoned. Jesus' Blood pure. Had to be only God. [JESUS second Adam].
---catherine on 9/10/13


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Scott, Jesus said "Whosoever shall break one of these commandments and shall teach men to do so, he shall be called LEAST in the Kingdom of Heaven, but whosoever shall do and teach them shall be called GREAT in the Kingdom of Heaven. Matt 5:19

Then in Matt 13:42 Jesus said "The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather OUT OF HIS KINGDOM all things that offend and those who do iniquity (lawlessness)"

It sounds to me like the least in the Kingdom will not remain there. In fact, Jesus tells us that whosoever commits sin is the servant of sin and will not abide in the house (kingdom) forever. John 8:34-35. You can believe whatever you want but I'll go with the Word of God.
---barb on 9/10/13


For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. Jn 3:16

For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.Jn 6:40
---Chria9396 on 9/9/13


The word of God made flesh. To give everybody free accesses to the promises of God. No just bible scholars or apostles to who so ever. Mark 4 21 Is a lamp brought to be put under a basket or under a bed? Is it not to be set on a lamp stand? For there is nothing hidden which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that it should come to light. 23 If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear.
---Bryan on 9/10/13


As regards sin/salvation Scripture always links the reality of Jesus to the reality of Adam.

Romans 5:12,14 ..... as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come."
---Warwick on 9/9/13

But, then of course. One can strategically avoid the reality of the "One" to come statements. Which are very carefully avoided by judas type preachers.

Mat_18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Luk 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

Joh_1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, ...
---Trav on 9/10/13


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Wow, Scott did you just call the "law" sin??

Barb,

Let me clarify. yes for without the law there is no sin. For the law made sin possible. Romans 5:20, 7:7-8 The law for Adam and Eve was do not eat of this tree, they could do anything they wanted to on earth as long as they did not eat of it.
---Scott1 on 9/10/13


As regards sin/salvation Scripture always links the reality of Jesus to the reality of Adam.

1 Corinthians 15:21,22 "For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all will be made alive."

1 Corinthians 15:45 'Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being, the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.'"

Romans 5:12,14 "For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come."
---Warwick on 9/9/13


Wow, Scott did you just call the "law" sin?? Are you speaking of the 10 commandments?

In order for the sacrifice of animals to have effect, Israel had to obey the rules of the Kingdom (Isaiah 1:11) just as we have to abide in and obey the Words of Jesus so that we can enter into God's Kingdom where His blood sacrifice will cover us. "The Son of man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather out of His Kingdom all things which offend and them which do iniquity (lawlessness, sin)." Matt 13:41.
---barb on 9/9/13


Problem 1. All fellowship with God requires a blood sacrifice. This includes guilt offerings for a sin or saying thank you to God for example a birth of a child. See the book of Levi.
problem 2. The wages of (the law) is death and it continues to be death (Matthew 5:18). The solution in the OT was the system of sacrifices. However in Hebrews 8-10 and Levi CH 17 an issue comes up that a lesser animal (goat, bull, bird, etc) cannot die for a greater animal (human). Thus we need a human to die for a human, but because we have sinned we have a blemish making us unable to be that sacrifice. Thus we need God to die for our sins and that person is the God/Man Jesus Christ.
---Scott1 on 9/9/13


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"You say that I am a king. To this end WAS I BORN, and for this cause I came into the world, that I should bear witness to the TRUTH. Everyone that is of the Truth hears my voice." John 18:37.
---barb on 9/9/13


There a lot of reasons why Jesus came to this earth! One reason being to be our defense lawyer. Another one would be to know God. Of course forgiveness of sins, SO WE WOULD NOT ALL END-UP IN HELL. Some could have eternal life. To help us with our temptations. You know my mind isn't working too great, these seem kinda simplistic. Maybe others can follow on these. As soon as I submit, a flood of these will come to my mind.
---catherine on 9/9/13


Why did God give us Jesus?
---Bryan on 9/9/13

Lets ask them both.

Mat_18:11 For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost.

Eze_34:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Zec_8:13 ..it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel, so will I save you, ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.

Luk_15:6 ... when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost.
---Trav on 9/9/13


God sent prophets to do a work, but wasn't fulfilling at times. So God wrapped Himself in flesh, Jesus Christ & God came to earth Himself. 1st. Tim.3 v 16.
---Lawrence on 9/9/13


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God is Family . . . Father and Son and Holy Spirit > the Supreme Being of Family Caring and Sharing Love. He designed man to be a family being, in God's image, therefore with more than one family person, in God's image.

But man has fallen from this. So, our Father sent Jesus who is love in "human form", in order to reach us and rescue us from how we have fallen from God's way of loving. Jesus has been our example, and Jesus has died instead of us, for our sins, because we in sin could not die right in a way pleasing our Father to forgive us. But Jesus did this right (Ephesians 5:2).

And now He rules so that "we shall be saved by His life." (in Romans 5:10)
---willie_c: on 9/9/13


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