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Christians Free To Sin

If Christians are not under the (Ten Commandment) Law, and sin is the transgression of the Law, then are Christians now free to sin?

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They will battle with the flesh until they die.

---Mark_V. on 1/8/14


True and good point.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/8/14


"Do you believe that a believer can live in rebellion to GOD's law and hatred of others?" Romans 7:19 Yes. christan

Paul says you are wrong.


Rom 8:1-7
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit
For what the law could not do, ... condemned sin in the flesh:


For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh, but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/8/14


Matt6:14 "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:"

15 "But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

Why?

2 Pet 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."


"men of every kindred, tribe, tongue, and race" as opposed to Jews only

Rom10(all)[...]
So then...
faith cometh by hearingand hearing by the Word of God[...]
---char on 1/8/14


2 Pet 3:9 "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Offer to "men of every kindred, tribe, tongue, and race" ...as opposed to Jews only.

[No difference] in the qualification necessary to believe.

Condition: [to them that believe]

Rom3(all) 21 "But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets,"
22 "Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all
[them that believe]: for there is [no difference]:"
23 "For all have sinned [...]
---char on 1/8/14


Adetunji, now you complain about what I said to David. You did not get it right. Those who are lost are slaves to sin. They practice sin, that is their nature, for by nature they are children of wrath.
Believers in Christ have been set free from bondage. They are now free to worship God and practice righteousness, because of the Spirit which is within them. Not on their own power, but the power of God. It does not mean they are sinless, for their flesh has not been redeemed. They are spiritually alive to Christ.
They will battle with the flesh until they die.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/14




Nana, you are confusing those who believe there is a God and those who believe by faith in Jesus Christ. Believing in God does not make anyone save. Jesus clearly condemned the Pharisees and in (Matt. 23: 1-36), Jesus said,
"Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness" (v. 28). Even the devil believes but is not saved. When Paul was persecuting the church of Christ he thought he was working for God also. He was not saved then.
Then you give (John 14:1) here Jesus was talking to the disciples, and at that very moment Jesus gave them faith.
"Let not your heart be troubled, you believe in God, believe also in Me" He granted them faith.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/14


Are you saying that the Pharisees and Saducees were not believers? They had not yet believed in Jesus but they did believe in God.
John 14:1 "Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me." They were like these, not yet knowing/trusting Jesus but they believd in God. Perhaps they practiced error of which they needed to repent: Like 13:4_5 "Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem? I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

And FYI, they had a choice which is simply seen in what was asked of them: "Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance"
---Nana on 1/7/14


Mark_V: //Believers are not slaves to sin for they do not practice sin. // In another blog question, you are rapping David for stating this same thing that you have just declared to Nana. I hope you do not have on the proverbial cap of 2 colours (different colour on either side), so that wherever you pass, you will leave argument & disagreement there?
---Adetunji on 1/7/14


Nana, unbelievers have no choice whether to sin or not, they are slaves to sin. Believers are not slaves to sin for they do not practice sin.
Unbelievers need for God to make them a new creation through the Holy Spirit, only He can change them. You gave a good passage where John was talking to the Pharisees and Sudducees and called them vipers and telling them to bear fruits worthy of repentance ,
". And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."
Only God is able to change a person and make them children of Abraham.
---Mark_V. on 1/7/14


Of course they have a choice and so much so that when John came preaching repentance, many at the beginning were told, "Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:
And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham."

Christians today are taught as commanded in Matthew 28:19_20 ...

Thereafter, James 4:17 "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."
---Nana on 1/5/14




Mark V, ok. You have obviously made your choice and your choice is that you have no choice and neither does anyone else....hmmmm.

I do have a choice. I can build my house on the Rock or I can build my house in the sand. I choose the Rock.
---barb on 1/5/14


Jerry, Christians are not under the Mosaic law, but we are under the moral laws of God.

9 of the 10 commandments deal with moral laws. The 4th commandment deals with the sabbath. Christ is our sabbath. He is our rest. trey on 1/4/14

Yes Trey we are under the Moral laws of GOD. Sabbath Keeping has been declared a moral law by John Wesley, Calvin, Luther and the RCC. I believe the Orthodox also declared it so.

They just all said it was Sunday.

If you read the fourth Commandment it states it is in memorial of Creation. In Hebrews 4 it is also a reminder of our savior. GOD cares for us spiritual and physically. So we should rest on the day He said to. Because we love to spend time with HIM.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/5/14


barb, you did a little twisting there and said I was:
"Mark V, you are grasping at straws." That is a good escape from what you had said. Then you say,
" I never asked, "where is the bondage of sin? I said we DO NOT HAVE TO BE UNDER THE BONDAGE OF SIN."
Only those in Christ are set free, the others have no choice in the matter. you say we do not have to be under the bondage of sin, as if those who are lost had a choice. They don't have a choice. Why would they need to be set free if they already have a choice? That is exactly what Paul stated. Nothing different.
---Mark_V. on 1/5/14


Jerry, Christians are not under the Mosaic law, but we are under the moral laws of God.

9 of the 10 commandments deal with moral laws. The 4th commandment deals with the sabbath. Christ is our sabbath. He is our rest. We are to keep all things related to Christ holy!
---trey on 1/4/14


Mark V, you are grasping at straws. I never asked, "where is the bondage of sin? I said we DO NOT HAVE TO BE UNDER THE BONDAGE OF SIN.

Yes, Jesus wanted to set them free but they wanted to believe the lies of Satan instead. "You are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, AND ABODE NOT IN THE TRUTH, BECAUSE THERE IS NO TRUTH IN HIM. When he speaks a LIE, he speaks of his own, for he is a LIAR and the FATHER OF IT. And because I tell you the TRUTH, you do not believe me." John 8:42-51.
---barb on 1/4/14


barb, you say,
Mark V, if the Truth (words) of Jesus set us free then it must be the lies (words) of Satan that bind us." Again, Jesus is the Truth, He testifies of God the Father. He is the Word that sets us free. Free from the bondage of sin. You say where is the bondage of sin? In (John 8:33-35) the Jews answered Jesus
"we have never been in bondage to anyone" They did not understand that Jesus was talking about a different kind of bondage, not of the flesh. But spiritual bondage to sin. He was talking about setting them free from that bondage.
---Mark_V. on 1/4/14


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We still sin, but we are not slaves to it anymore. Why don't you get it?
---Mark_V. on 1/2/14

we are unless we confess our sins, Jesus does not confess our sins for us we have to do it!!!
---Ruben on 1/3/14


Thanks Nana. I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who knows where to go to find Truth. The source of Truth should always be the Words of God and His Son who brought them to us.
---barb on 1/3/14


I'm there with you barb and so were his close disciples: John 6:68 "Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life."

That was Simon Peter speaking for the 12 after Jesus seeing many of his disciples had gone "back, and walked no more with him." asked the twelve, "Will ye also go away?"
---Nana on 1/2/14


Mark V, if the Truth (words) of Jesus set us free then it must be the lies (words) of Satan that bind us. The Pharisees were lying to the people and Jesus reprimanded them in Matt 15:1-9. Also you can read the seven woes to the scribes and Pharisees in Matt 23.
---barb on 1/2/14


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Samuel, you have not shown me where Jesus calls the law "bondage" neither have you shown me where Jesus says that He, being the Truth has set us free from the commandments of God. barb

Well Barb you will never hear me say or write the Commandments are Bondage. They are the rules of love and liberty. Jam 2:12

Paul wrote: Rom 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
1Cr 7:19 I John.

A person who loves GOD will obey His commandments out of love. Why because he set us free from living in sin which is not following the commandments.
Agape.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/2/14


Mark V, we do not have to be in bondage to sin. "IF YOU CONTINUE IN MY WORD, then you are my disciples indeed, and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free." We have to continue in His Word, abide in His Word and practice His Word. His Word is Truth. We are set free by His Word. Jesus' Word takes us from the darkness into the light IF we obey Him.

John 3:21 "But he who does truth comes to the Light, that his deeds may be made manifest that they are wrought in God."
---barb on 1/2/14


Amen, Nana. Exodus 20:1-20 "And God spoke all these words saying, I am the the Lord thy God, who has brought you out of the land of Egypt, OUT OF THE HOUSE OF BONDAGE." And then God gives them the rules (keys) to the Kingdom, the ten commandments.
---barb on 1/2/14


barb, you disagree that we were in bondage to sin, so when Jesus said,
"And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" what is Jesus talking about? Set free from what? Can you explain? Because the passages you gave explain nothing.

On the very next passage Jesus explains what He is talking about,
"Most assuredly, I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave to sin." All descendants of Adam are in bondage to sin. The Truth is Jesus, and Jesus sets us free. Before Christ came into our lives, we too were slaves to sin. Jesus removed us from that slavery. We still sin, but we are not slaves to it anymore. Why don't you get it?
---Mark_V. on 1/2/14


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barb, when you claim you only believe what Jesus said, and also John, you miss out on most of the gospel. From the time the first gospel was given at the garden by God, to the end of Scripture, we are explained all things we need to know as believers. Jesus time on earth was very short, His ministry was very short. One needs to read the whole of Scripture to understand the whole gospel.
But you are determent to not believe the rest of the writers of Scripture which makes up the Word of God.
---Mark_V. on 1/2/14


Jesus said, " ..., I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

And, John 6:63 "It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
Of his spoken word he had also said, "Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house, and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock."

The doers:
James 1:22 "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."
---Nana on 1/1/14


Mark V, Samuel, you have not shown me where Jesus calls the law "bondage" neither have you shown me where Jesus says that He, being the Truth has set us free from the commandments of God.

Instead you quote Paul's words as if they have come out of the mouth of God. Matt 19:17-19, Matt 5:18.

The commandments cannot save us unless we also have the testimony of Jesus. Rev 12:17. What do you suppose is in the ark in Rev 11:19 and why do you think it is in the temple of God?
---barb on 1/1/14


Good answer Markv.

The law is to convict of sin. That is it's job.


Gal 3:24

Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 12/31/13


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barb, when we are told "the truth has set us free" it means first that the Truth is Christ, and He has set us free from the bondage of the law. Under the law no one is saved, for the law saves no one. It keeps everyone condemned for the breaking of the law. No one can keep the law, they are in bondage to it. Only Christ, who is the Truth, can set us from. That is why Paul tells all believers, there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ. So Paul is telling the Truth, He is speaking for the Truth who is Christ.
---Mark_V. on 12/31/13


Luke4:4

And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.

Luke 8:11

The Entire Bible is the Word of GOD. Not just the words of JESUS in the New Testament. But the words of all the Apostles including the Apostle Paul.

Why so many denominations? Not because the words of the Bible are hard to understand but because people are confused by traditions, misinformation and wondering who to believe.

Trust JESUS. Spend time in His word all of it. Pray for truth and guidance of the HOLY SPIRIT.

1Jo 4:1

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/30/13


Mark V, do you know what the truth sets us free from? The opposite of Truth is lies so if the truth sets us free then we have been held in bondage by lies as were the Israelites.

Being set free by Truth is not the same as being saved. When we are set free from lies we are free to learn and to differentiate between truth and untruth. It is how we accept the truth and what we do with it that will sanctify us or not.
---barb on 12/30/13


Mark V, where did I ever say that Jesus is not the Truth? Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life. It is because He is the Truth that I believe His Words over the words of anyone else.

Yes, I will take the Word of God over the word of Paul anyday. Paul can tell me that I am set free by "Christ's perfect works" and that I am no longer "under the condemnation of the Law" but that is a lie that I have been set free from.

"Sanctify them thru thy truth, thy word is truth." John 17:17.



---barb on 12/30/13


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barb, you want to some how excuse that what Paul was talking about is not what Jesus was talking about. Who sets you free? The Truth. and Who is the Truth? Christ Jesus. You have the answer right before you, but even then, you refuse to acknowledge it because of your bias. You have to let that bias go are you will never learn what things God wants to convey to you. God cannot speak to you without the Word of God. You are not hearing barb. You are trapped in the believe that only Jesus, John, and the four gospels are truth, that the rest is not. You will never grow to maturity without the Word of God.
---Mark_V. on 12/30/13


Mark V, it is not the "perfect works" of Jesus that sets us free. It is His Word, the words He taught, the words He spoke while He was on earth. "if you continue in my word, then you are my disciples indeed, and you shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free". We have to abide in His word to learn the truth and be set free. We have to stay within His Word and not go beyond His teachings. 2nd John verse 9-11.

"Therefore, whosoever hears these sayings of mine AND DOES THEM, I will liken him unto a wise man who built his house upon a rock." Matt 7:24.


---barb on 12/29/13


barb, why do you not understand the word of God? Here you say,
"Mark V, you ask "Did I say anything Paul said?" Yes, everything you said comes out of the mouth of Paul. You said "They are no longer under the condemnation of the law. They have been set free by Christ's perfect works." Where does Jesus say that?"
It clearly says that in the passage you gave,
" Jesus said the truth sets us free. John 8:31-32 "and you shall know the truth and the truth shall shall make you free".
Who do you think is the Truth? Hello? The answer is Jesus Christ. That is why there is no more condemnation to those in Christ. He set them free. You are bias against Paul, and you miss the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/13


\\"Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. Whatever you sow you will reap. If a man sows to please the sinful nature, from that nature he will reap destruction."
---Caleb on 12/27/13\\

And God is not mocked by YOU, Caleb.

The context if this passage is about supporting Christian ministry.

Christ is born! Glorify Him!
---Cluny on 12/28/13


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"Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. Whatever you sow you will reap. If a man sows to please the sinful nature, from that nature he will reap destruction."
---Caleb on 12/27/13


Mark 4:11 - And he said unto them, unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God, but unto them that are with out, all these things are done in parables,
Mark 4:12 - That seeing they may see, and not perceive, and hearing they may hear, and not understand , lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them,

Romans 11:8 ( According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that that should not hear:) unto this day,
---RICHARDC on 12/27/13


Yes, Samuel many people can twist Paul's words because Paul is "all things to all people". Paul told the people whatever they wanted to hear and the "church" today follows Paul and believes whatever they choose to hear. Therefore, many denominations with different beliefs have arisen and the "churches" preach the gospel of Paul instead of the Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus preached.

Jesus brought the Word of God to earth but few want to listen. John 12:49-50. John 5:43.
---barb on 12/27/13


Dear Barb many people quote part of Paul's writing to show He is against the Commandments. But that is a false accusation. They take some of his words out of context and ignore what else He wrote to the church.

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

1Cr 7:19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.


Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

Paul is opposed to using keeping the law as a way to earn heaven. But he is still for commandment keeping.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/27/13


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Steven, what was said by individuals in the Bible means a whole lot. In order to get to the context of the message, we need to know to whom the one talking was talking to, and why, what was happening at the time those words were said, and after we find out the meaning of the passage, how it applies to our everyday life. Not all things written apply to us, some applied to Israel, some to unbelievers and other times to believers. Everything is for our edification, but not everything applies to our everyday lives anymore.
---Mark_V. on 12/27/13


Mark V, you ask "Did I say anything Paul said?" Yes, everything you said comes out of the mouth of Paul. You said "They are no longer under the condemnation of the law. They have been set free by Christ's perfect works." Where does Jesus say that?

Jesus said the truth sets us free. John 8:31-32 "and you shall know the truth and the truth shall shall make you free". Not only does the truth makes us free but it sanctifies us, John 17:17. Jesus also said "if you will enter into life, keep the commandments". The Truth is in His Words.
---barb on 12/27/13


ALL, not just some, but ALL of scripture is for the edification of the church. When Jesus, the apostles, or other godly people throughout the entire bible spoke to a certain person or a group of people it was for the church's edification not toward that certain person or group.
---Steveng on 12/26/13


This is part of the pack of lies from the RCC. No, we can't sin willfully, continually. The Messiah says plainly, "If you love me, keep my commandments"
---yacov on 12/25/13

Yacov,

What does 'IF' mean???
---Ruben on 12/26/13


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You take the words of Paul who has twisted the Word of God to his own advantage to prove your point. barb

Dear Barb

I do not think that Paul twisted the word of GOD to his own advantage. I think people today twist and misuse the words of Paul to make him say things he would not agree with. This happened to him while he was alive.

Rom 6:1,2, 15
What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 12/26/13


This is part of the pack of lies from the RCC. No, we can't sin willfully, continually. The Messiah says plainly, "If you love me, keep my commandments"
---yacov on 12/25/13


barb, you are blinded by your unbelief concerning the Word of God. Here again you accuse Paul. Why? Did I say anything Paul said? Then you give (Matt. 23:35) which really speak of the Jews who were given prophets and how their blood was on them for killing them. Jesus was speaking to the Pharisees and scribes, those who were lost. They did not have faith in Jesus Christ. How can that passage support what you say? Are you suggesting they were righteous? Jesus told them they were witnesses against themselves that they were sons of those who murdered the prophets. Jesus calls them sinners. Unrighteous.
---Mark_V. on 12/25/13


Hoseas 5:15 "I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early." Contrast John 8:29 "And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him." In one case God left. In the other He stays.

Hoseas 6:4 "O Ephraim, what shall I do unto thee? O Judah, what shall I do unto thee? for your goodness is as a morning cloud, and as the early dew it goeth away."
Hoseas 6:6_7 "For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice, and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. But they like men have transgressed the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against me."
---Nana on 12/24/13


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Mark V, when Jesus speaks of the lost (sinners) He is speaking of those who refuse to believe in His Words and trade His Words in for those of someone else.

You take the words of Paul who has twisted the Word of God to his own advantage to prove your point.

No righteous? Is that what Jesus said? "That upon you may come ALL THE RIGHTEOUS BLOOD SHED upon the earth, from the blood of RIGHTEOUS ABEL to the blood OF Zacharias son of Barachias whom you slew between the temple and the altar." Matt 23:35. Jesus disagrees with you and Paul.

---barb on 12/24/13


Believers out of love for GOD which yes MarkV is inspired by the Love that GOD shows us. They do works because it is their new nature to do work. Apple trees produce apples.

1John 3:3-7
And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins, and in him is no sin.
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/24/13


barb, the sinners the Bible speaks of are those who are lost. When it speaks of those who are saved, the Bible calls the "the faithful" or "the righteous". Meaning the righteous and the faithful have faith in Jesus Christ. They are no longer under the condemnation of the law. They have been set free by Christ perfect works. You need to distinguish between the two. It does not mean that the righteous do not sin, only that they are no longer under the condemnation of the law. But you need to believe in the Word of God, the whole Word of God. Otherwise you will always be confused.
---Mark_V. on 12/24/13


Those who trust, obey and listen to what Jesus taught and who live in His words will know the Way to the Truth. The Truth is in His Words. So what did He say about commandment breakers? Did Jesus say that sinners would be in His Kingdom? John 8:34 "Truly, truly, I say unto you whosover commits sin is the servant of sin and the servant does not abide in the house forever..."

Jesus also taught that the lawless (commandment breakers) would be gathered out of His Kingdom. Matt 13:41. We can see that there is no place for them in Matt 7:23-27. Where are the sinners in Rev 22:14-15, Rev 20:27?
---barb on 12/23/13


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Galatians 3:2_4 "This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain."

So then, it is not any spiritual birth that keeps any man, but the Spiritual life is that which keeps him and makes perfect.

1 John 2:4 "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."
Once more, it is not by birth. His words, "they are spirit, and they are life". John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
---Nana on 12/23/13


markv, from stevens post he believes once saved always saved. the bible is full of eternal's and forever's. my free will is to know I am born of the Spirit and I can't go back to an unborn state but we can all backslide. just because you may be saved does not mean you can't be weak in the flesh. it is a constant war to battle our desires and not let them overtake us. francis believed he couldn't sin because he kept the law. he never understood that no man can keep all the law. if we could we would be perfect and we are far from perfect.
---shira4368 on 12/23/13


steven, because of your free will doctrine, you believe a person saved by God can lose his salvation, so you say,
"One must have faith to begin with in order to fall away from it. So heed those warnings."
The warning are not doing you any good.
You can belong to the faith and not have faith in Jesus Christ. Many today belong to the faith that are not saved at all. Sooner or later they will leave. They fall away from the faith. You are confused. people who are saved by God, Jesus tells us will never perish. God tells us He will sustain us. So if you are born of the Spirit, you are saying, the person can lose the spiritual birth and go back to being dead again? Where do you get all that stuff?
---Mark_V. on 12/23/13


Did God save the sinner to keep His commandments or did He save the sinner because He loved them? christan

GOD saves sinners because HE love us. He saved us to no longer live in sin.

Rom 6:2

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
---Samuelbb7 on 12/22/13


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Paul answered this question in Romans 6-8. It deals with sin, and how under grace, not law, sin is dealt with. The Law points to Sin, GRACE deals with sin. Grace here being the cross, and your life now under grace again reiterated in Galatians 2:20-21, and ALL of Galatians for that matter.
---kathr4453 on 12/22/13


There are many warnings to christians about backsliding - having faith and then going back to your old self. The last generation in which we are now living there is a great falling away from the faith. One must have faith to begin with in order to fall away from it. So heed those warnings.
---Steveng on 12/20/13


\\ Your are under the blood of Jesus. It covers all sin...\\
---BRYAN on 12/20/13

WRONG !!

You need to read Hebrews chapters 9-10

If you think Jesus' blood "covers" sin, then you have a different Jesus from scripture

He didn't come to do what Old Testament sacrifices were already doing - cover

If your sin hasn't been removed by the blood of Christ, then you are not His
---James_L on 12/20/13


Your are under the blood of Jesus. It covers all sin, but only according to the word. It is not flipped, The word is ever specific, What you sow you will reap, Galatians 6:8 Be careful how you sow.
---BRYAN on 12/20/13


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Dear Mark_V. on 12/20/13 excellent points. Thank you.

Faithforall First John points to commandments as being good for Christian. Because they help show what love in action is. All the law is about love and so we should still follow but in the spirit not just the letter.

Above all Christians should hate sin.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/20/13


faithforfaith, commands are very much necessary. Not everyone has the whole of Scripture revealed to them by the Spirit. When a person is just beginning to learn, God reveals many things to him from the Word of God. But at no time does he know everything. Everyday something is revealed to us through the Word. Even commands. Of course we should not need any command for us to love God or others, that should already be in them. The Spirit teaches us, but through the Word of God.
---Mark_V. on 12/20/13


Get rid if the word "SIN" (it has no place in a Godly person's vocabulary).

The word "wrongdoing" replaces "SIN" in our vocabulary "All wrongdoing is sin" (your personal understanding is necessary and possible ONLY if you are contrite and SPIRIT FILLED).

Correct devotion is that God should NOT BE "MASTER"...neither should COMMANDS be required in order for you to do good.

Titus 1:8 "lover of goodness, master of hymself".

We should love God as "ABBA FATHER, not "master"....we should NOT NEED COMMANDS or find them useful AT ALL.

CAN YOU be your own master?...do you need COMMANDS?....I thought not!
---faithforfaith on 12/18/13


Your are free to sin, you will sin. On purpose, You probably will. Dose that mean you are going to hell when you die? Romans 8:2KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death. Is this a FREE TICKET TO SIN. NO. But if you want to over come sin in your life learn to sow the Gospel. It will set you free if you sow it.
---BRYAN on 12/17/13


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Free to act but,
Gal 6(all)
7Be not deceived, God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
3 "For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself."
Jn 13:35 "By this shall all men know that ye are My disciples, if ye have love one to another."
Matt6:14 "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:"
15 "But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
Rom11:7-36Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity, but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness:
otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
---char on 10/8/13


Jerry, why do you not understand? you asked if Christians are free to sin. Don't you know that everyone is a sinner. Everyone. The lost are in bongage to sin, the saved are free from the bondage of sin. The lost do it because it is their nature, the saved do it because they still live in this bodies of sin. But all fall short of the glory of God. The lost do the desires of their father the devil, the believers do the desires of God but still sin. The consumation of our salvation will happen at the Second Coming when we will receive our new bodies prepared for eternity.
---Mark_V. on 10/8/13


The trinity believers Rev. 17 v's 4 - 6 are kept in their sins, anything goes from their author 2nd. Cor. 11 v 14.

Acts 2 v 38 believers are saved from their sins.
---Lawrence on 10/6/13


Don't try to hide behind the word justifying your sin. If you are sowing the Gospel it will grow over the will to sin. The word is the smallest of the seed but when it is sow it grows over all the other crap in your life. The sin get coked out not the Gospel. Mark chapter 4 learn to sow the Gospel, then watch what happen in your life.
---Bryan on 9/15/13


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Christ is the END of the law FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS, to everyone that believes, Rom 10:4.

Instead, it's our faith that's counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.

Hence Satan the accuser CANNOT charge Christians with sin/transgression of the law/unrighteousness, as we're NOT under the law (Rom 8:2, Gal 4:24, Gal 5:18, 1Tim 1:9).
Thus we've CEASED from sin, 1Pet 4:1.
Who shall lay ANYTHING (even sin) to the charge of those God has justified, Rom 8:33.

As for our behavior, Christians love, which means we do no ill to another and also we forgive 7x70 as we ourselves are forgiven.
Any who do wrong are disciplined by God. Hence grace is not a license to live selfishly.
---Haz27 on 9/15/13


catherine What laws do you do to stop the sin in your life? Judge people, condemn people tell people they are wrong? No one is perfect as you have said catherine Get off the condemnation train cause your head the to the bridge and you don't see that it's out. You will reap what you sow.
---Bryan on 9/14/13


This is not a law but the wages of sin is death of your body. Just as the wages of righteousness are life to your body. If you sow to sin what is your harvest? If you sow the word what is your harvest? "LIFE". Which do you sow? Mark chapter 4 best chapter in the bible.
---Bryan on 9/14/13


"Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body, but he that commiteth fornication sinneth against his own body."

"Charity suffereth long, and is kind, charity envieth not, charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, ..., Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth, Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things."

"Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity."

"Honour thy father and mother, (which is the first commandment with promise,)"

Paul taught all that. Is that good jerry6593?
---Nana on 9/13/13


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No one can in all good honesty who claims to love God can have such a slothful attitude toward sin. Haven't you heard, God hates sin. We, God's people, want to obey God and His laws. It's not an have to, it is a want to. God has written His laws across His people's heart. OBEY GOD. "If you love Me you will obey Me", is also Scripture.
---catherine on 9/13/13


"Are Christians now free to sin?" No.
"Whosoever is born of God does not commit sin, for His seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." 1Jo 3:9
Believers "were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." Jhn 1:13
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which lives and abides for ever." 1Pe 1:23
"Our old man is crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Rom 6:6
"He himself bore our sins in his body on the cross, so that we might die to sins and live for righteousness," 1Pe 2:24
---josef on 9/13/13


Yes we are free to sin. But sin is fleeting and does not satisfy. "For the thief comes to steal, kill and destroy but I come to give life and life to the fullest." John 10:10. So yes you can sin but not recommended.
---Scott1 on 9/12/13


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