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Seed: His Word Jn1:1
Planted in dirt [adamah] for humans[adam]

Praise Elohyim for His very breathe - the driving force that leads and directs our journey.Ez36:26-27

Time/Harvest:
For Man [iysh]

Matt26:41[...]the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.

Good News: "All mankind"
Flesh [basar]stgs H:1320

Lk24:47
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Jn 17(all) 2 "As Thou hast given Him power over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as Thou hast given Him."
20"Neither pray I for (these alone, but for them also) which shall believe on Me through their word."
---char on 2/25/14


I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish"
---Nana on 1/25/14

Good point.

Elohyim is (One-[ehhad])Deut6:4
God is a God of order- He established His Order of arrangement-from within Him [bereshyit].
Without His Word sent First- there would be nothing for Elohyim to confirm/testify of.Jn1:1
Ysha mashiach - the very act of Elohyim -who is Spirit (Jn4, Jn1:1-14) -testifying/confirming - His Word.
( He sent His Word His testifies/confirms of- His Word.
---char on 2/24/14


Nana, you said,
"But then again, you only consider brothers about 3 or 4 people here and at large your elite 'elect' which you do not even know who they are!"
I do not know who the elect are. Many are still lost. God will save them at their appointed time. I also do not know who is saved or not, I can only judge by their answers, their conduct, their fruits. I believe about 20 people who answer are really saved, that is only my opinion. I am not God so cannot see their hearts only their fruits, and their lack of knowledge of the Truth.
Three years ago I was reminded that not all here are really brothers. To be careful how I use bro/sis. I judge by their fruits, their conduct and how they change the Truth to a lie.
---Mark_V. on 2/2/14


Nana, just so that you can sleep at night, I tell you that I love Samuel, just like I love you. I don't even know you guys, but I know God put both of you in my path. I always give thanks to the Lord for all things, for "without Him I can do nothing." That is how all of us should feel, for "everything good comes from above." We should not take credit for anything.
That is why we are believers give the glory to God. I am sorry my words offend you.
But I am happy God is using Samuel in that way. And not happy that you are unhappy when I post something. Sorry that I cannot bring you happiness, we as human's fail all the time. Why don't you try the Lord, He brings us a lot of joy.
---Mark_V. on 1/27/14


"Samuel, I thank God not you for the work you are doing."

That is what you said and it is sick considering the work he does. Then again, once more you prove your hate for man/mankind Lisa.
There is nothing automatic in serving God. No, you don't get love out of the freezer toss in the microwave and peddle it as automatic love.
Loving God is one thing and loving our neighbour another, "Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way, first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift."
But then again, you only consider brothers about 3 or 4 people here and at large your elite 'elect' which you do not even know who they are!
---Nana on 1/26/14




Nana, you say,
"So when it is said, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind, and thy neighbour as thyself.", you could just forget to love thy neighbour, it is covered in loving God?"
There is no work in loving God when you are a believer, it is something you should feel already if you are born of the Spirit. Only believers love God. If you have been born of the Spirit, you automatically love Him and your neighbor. Why? because He first loved us. Did you not read the passage?
"We love Him because He first loved us" unbelievers do not follow that commandment, they do not love for God.
---Mark_V. on 1/26/14


"Samuel, I thank God not you for the work you are doing. "
Mark_V.

So when it is said, "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind, and thy neighbour as thyself.", you could just forget to love thy neighbour, it is covered in loving God? That's not how it is. Matthew 25:45.

"No one who is heading to hell has a choice in the matter."
You ignore God's guidance through all generations. He admonished his wayward children in Isaiah 1:16 to 20.
Christ made it clear that no one needs to go to no hell, " I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish"
---Nana on 1/25/14


Samuel, I thank God not you for the work you are doing. He said, "without Me you can do nothing."
Second, No one who is heading to hell has a choice in the matter. All descendants of Adam are under the curse of God. All. The very reason all need salvation. A person heading to hell has no rights. I really don't understand why those who say they are believers don't understand that. By one man's sin, all are condemned. When we preach the gospel that point cannot be avoided. Only the Truth (Christ Jesus who is God) can save them.
After telling them the Gospel Truth we then ask if they believe in their hearts the Truth of the gospel, and if the Word of God came to them in power and with the Holy Spirit, they will answer yes.
---Mark_V. on 1/23/14


To Bro.Samuelbb7 with all respect really admire and like your post. You have a wonderfull gift, the Heavenly Father has given you! As a child Mother hated my real dad.She beat me alot as he left her for a woman in the islsnds,( their love turn to the worst hatred) life for me hard!.

I hated sleep or eat,
play sick, tear up stuff,play with matches..depressed & eventually did hurt myself.Later got treatment.

God put a few good people in my life,like you're doing with those kids.
They'll be gratefull,remember you forever!
---Lidia4796 on 1/22/14


Dear MarkV

I work with special children. Sometimes they get violent and say and do things that are wrong. But I know it is not their fault. So I do not hate or even get mad at them because they cannot help themselves.

To be a true rebel a person has to choose to be against GOD. Not just because of their nature. They actually have to have a choice in the matter. Otherwise they are no different then a autistic on special child who has no choice.

But by understanding that yes, GOD has the right to destroy rebels. But He is also love so that he gives the rebels a chance to be saved and they are only lost when they refuse that chance.

JESUS said He would draw all to him. TULIP says that is false. I believe JESUS.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/22/14




Mark_V. 's spill here comes from her peddling A.W. Pink, The Satisfaction of Christ page 19.

Pink says there, "Whatever claims an unfallen creature may have upon God, certainly a rebel against Him is entitled to nothing but summary judgment."
The pink freak ridicules the Word of God and exalts himself as a self professed sage on things he knows nothing of. She talks like him as she parrots his out of tune dissonance.

The Word of God says, Acts 10:31 "And said, Cornelius, thy prayer is heard, and thine alms are had in remembrance in the sight of God."
and Romans 10:11 "For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed." That's God's guarantee period.
---Nana on 1/21/14


Samuel, I understand you believe a sinner heading to hell, condemned already, has rights. But your wrong. No one deserves mercy. No one. Certainly a rebel against God is entitled to nothing but judgment. Nor can offenders against His moral government be excuse by anything they perform or even lay God under obligation to furnish them with salvation. To say they can, would be investing guilty sinners with the power to control the Divine Lawgiver. The passage says'
"The preaching of the Cross is to them that perish foolishness, but unto us which are saved it is the power of God" (1 Cor. 1:18).
When God saves us, He does not force us, He has mercy on us. "Thank You O Lord, for having mercy on me a sinner."
---Mark_V. on 1/21/14


Dear MarkV

The right give by GOD to choose is not a work. Your definition is incorrect. I know that you base your beliefs on your understanding that GOD forces people to be saved. But you should understand our point of view even it you do not agree with it.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/20/14


Bryan, you say,
"Mark I never said any thing about losing their salvation. I said they have the right to it."
you are preaching that salvation is base on what man does. If he wants it, he can get it by using his own free will, and if he doesn't want it anymore, he can walk away by his own free will. That is salvation by works. There is no such thing as free will for salvation. Salvation is by Grace through faith.
were you not heading to hell without hope, condemned already for breaking the law? And God who is rich in mercy, reached out and made you alive together with Christ, by grace you were saved (Eph. 2:8,9). "Not of works, lest anyone should boast" You are boasting Bryan.
---Mark_V. on 1/20/14


Mark I never said any thing about losing their salvation. I said they have the right to it. God is not evil, as you think. He calls everybody to him in the New Covenant. So when you mix the old laws with the New Covenant it does not work. He called us all. Now you have the right to believe or not, you choose. Just like Praying in tongues Mark, you can believe in it or you can pass. Here is one you can't pass, the same spirit that raised Jesus from the dead lives in our mortal body. Romans 8:11 Freely given to you, and you didn't even have to believe for it to happen it was just given. You try to stop it and you can't cause God want let you.
---BRYAN on 1/19/14


Jesus is the sower of the good seed. Matt 13:37. He planted His Words and then the wicked one came along and sowed his word. They are still growing together (the wheat and the tares, the lies and the truth) and will continue to grow together until the harvest when the angels will gather the lawless (believers of lies) out of God's Kingdom. Matt 13:37-44, Rev 22:14-15.

And then the righteous shall shine as the sun in their Father's Kingdom. Matt 13:43, Dan 12:3-4, John 8:12.
---barb on 1/18/14


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Bryan, this is what you teach,
"I sow, you have the right to become a son of God"
No one lost has the right to become sons of God. Those that becomes sons of God become sons by the will of God. Not the will of men. You can sow all you want but if God does not bring His word with power and the Holy Spirit, when the harvest comes the seed becomes fruitless.
"For our gospel did not come to you in Word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit with much assurance.." (1 Thess. 1:5).
When the word comes to them with no power, and no Holy Spirit it produces nothing. No one has the right to become sons of God. It is by the will of God they become sons of God.
---Mark_V. on 1/17/14


Oh Mark It's not a lie as you suppose. It is how the Kingdom of Heaven works. Jesus started out by telling us how the New Covenant works. Mark how about Mark 4:30 Jesus is trying to explain how the word works. It's like a mustard seed the smallest but when you sow it will grows greater than anything else. I've seen it work so many times in people's lives. It did not matter what religion they were. But when they started sowing the Gospel. That is when they start having the abundant life with 100% return on the word that was given to them not just 30 or 60 but 100%. That is doing as Jesus ask us. It's not a law, hopefully is your heart if it's there it will come out your mouth.
---BRYAN on 1/16/14


Bryan, you are sowing false teachings not found in the Bible. Here you say,
" I sow you have the right to know the Mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven."
That is the opposite of what Jesus was teaching. Jesus said,
"He answered and said to them (believers, disciples) "Because it has been given to "you" (disciples) to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, "but to them (the lost)" it has not been given." (Matt. 13:11) Then He gives the reason why,
"Therefore I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand" (v. 13:13) to fulfill the prophesy of Isaiah.
---Mark_V. on 1/14/14


I sow, you have the right to become a son of God. I sow the right you are Given by Jesus, to know how the word of God works, I sow you have the right to know the Mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven. I sow the right For your to stand on the word of God to have a long and abundant life though Christ Jesus. I sow the right that you can do all things though Christ who strengthens you Philippians 4:13. I can't make you believe it but I will sow it cause if it is sown it will grow.
---BRYAN on 1/13/14


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"Seed time and Harvest when did it pass away" Mark 4:14 The farmer sows the word. How what is your harvest? What words have you sown?
---BRYAN on 12/22/13


Word of Elohyim down to each Letter:
Hebrew letter: zayin
Defined: Harvest
7th letter : completion
Pictograph: mattock
meaning: harvest, food, crop, cut, weapon, sword
Mattock was the tool used to cut into 'any soil' for planting seed. Lk8:4-21,Mk4:13-20,Mt13:1-23

Time:
The Word of Elohyim breath is living and breathing - continues...
The Hebrew concept of Time is event orientated - cyclical - not linear.
Sound of a shofar (trumpet) for time of events to begin...
1Cor 15:50-52, 1 Ths 4:16, Ps 98,

Rev8:2-6 And I saw the seven angels which stood before God, and to them were given seven trumpets.[...]

Heb13:8
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever
---char on 10/5/13


Steven, you are welcome to argue any point of Scripture that you believe I interpret wrong. That is not the problem here. But to make an arguement just to argue is wrong because what you really present when you do that is you compromise the Truth of God's Word and turn it to a lie. That is your mistake. I make mistakes many times and I do not mind anyone correcting me if I am wrong. I present Scripture and if you do not like what it says, it is not my fault. Thanks.
---Mark_V. on 10/5/13


Steven, when you argue you turn the Truth of God's Word to a lie. Doesn't that bother you at all? You say,
"You forgot to include the words before the word "saved" and that is "for have been" which makes it a future event. Look up your grammar rules."
I didn't forget anything. "for does not make it future, because it is talking about "for by grace" not for any other reasons. Then says, "you have been saved" pretty simple Steven. Believers are call to make their salvation calling and election sure (2 Peter 1:10) look it up in your computer. My grammer is fine. You should go to God, ask forgiveness for turning His Word to a lie in front the world. I would.
---Mark_V. on 10/4/13


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Mark_V.: ""For by grace you have been saved through faith,..." (Eph. 2:8) the word is "Saved" past tense."

You forgot to include the words before the word "saved" and that is "for have been" which makes it a future event. Look up your grammar rules.
---Steveng on 10/3/13


markv, the night I was saved was instant. I believe God saved me before I got to the altar. maybe it is different for some people but mine was instant.
---shira4368 on 10/3/13


//Elder on 10/2/13// - Awe...Beauty of Faith, brother :o)

Heb11 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
Rom4:17
(as it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Behold, he whose soul is not upright in him shall fail, but the righteous shall live by his faith. Hab 2:4

Hebrew letter: nun
Pictorgrah: a seed
Defined: Son
Isa45:23,Jn3:15-16
Shalom
---char on 10/3/13


In contrast to the unbelievers on ChristiaNet doesn't the book of Ist John teach and prove that we can know now that we are saved? Sure it does.
---Elder on 10/2/13


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//shira4368 on 10/2/13//-Agree.
Elohyim gave all His witnesses (Jn1:1-14,Jn17,Rom8,Ps19,Rev11) He Exist(I Am) true, just and fair God. Seeing Us at the end of Both path/ways,And provided His Word/Instructions/path/way - leading back Within Him - as One. Ecc12:7,1 Cor 15:38,Jn17:21
Teaching/confirming His Word with/in all - worlds/eions/ages. Heb11:1-3,2Kgs6:17,Jn1:1-14,Jn8:58,Job38:7,Mal1:3,Rom9:13
Those(set aside elect) and those 'that believe on him through their word.'

John 17(all) 2 "As Thou hast given Him power over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as Thou hast given Him."
20"Neither pray I for (these alone, but for them also) which shall believe on Me through their word."
---char on 10/2/13


Steven, you are correct we don't know who God is going to save.
You saY,
"No one is saved right now. All shall be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus." The Word of God says,
"For by grace you have been saved through faith,..." (Eph. 2:8) the word is "Saved" past tense.
Then give (2 Peter 3:9) again the "us" is speaking of believers. "He is longsuffering toward "us." (v. 9) When the author says "us" in the bible, it means believers. And those who will belief. The "any" refers to those whom the Lord has chosen and will call to complete the redeemed, since the whole passage is about God destroying the wicked.

---Mark_V. on 10/2/13


one thing I don't understand. why would God create humanity and "let" them go to hell without any warning? well, we have the bible which would not be necessary if your predestination is true. why would we need churches to preach to sinners? why would we need missionaries? why would we need to tell others about Christ? none of this would matter if your predestination is biblical. Markv, please answer these questions. romans 10:14 tells us we need a preacher.
---shira4368 on 10/2/13


Shira, Praising God He sees - your Heart - and alone can correctly judge it.

Do we agree?
God is not limited to mans understanding and has declared In - His Word repentance unto pardon-deliverance-liberty-freedom.

When His 'Head turns' upon repentance - ones definitive end - changes.

We Witness this with His word - Israel: defined 'Turns the Head' of God.

As Creator - God has established both paths - one straight and one crooked.

We know this does not mean God does not know the future -
He already sees everyone at the end of - Both paths -
And has provided - His Word - (Instructions) - path/way - that lead back to Him - walking with/in Him - as One.

blessings sis.
---char on 10/1/13


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markv, what I said was not contradictory. can you even believe Christ died for every single person? well, He did. He even died for all the ones who will never believe. you see markv, I do believe God changes His mind. that being the case all those who were supposedly going to hell can be saved. is that too deep for you? did you know God has feet, arms, hands, eyes, brain, heart and many I can't even remember now?
---shira4368 on 10/1/13


No one is saved right now. All shall be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. That is the reason Christ Jesus came into the world - to save sinners. And as many as he can.

Now, concerning that God knows the beginning and the end. Since we do not know the mind of God, we, as men, must save as many as we can for we do not know which will be saved and which of those will perish.
---Steveng on 10/1/13


Shira, its not war, it's correction. you say,
" I know God don't give life just so they can go to hell." He did give life to many who are going to hell. You know that. Then say,
" I also know God knows everything in the future but I also know God will change His mind." If He knows everything in the future, how can He change His mind? That would mean He doesn't know everything in the future. Then say,
" He even was sorry He made man." God would love for all mankind to be saved" If He cannot do what He desires, how come you call Him God? You are suggesting man is a God, because He has more power then God. In your mind God cannot do what He desires. Sinful man will not let Him.
---Mark_V. on 10/1/13


Shira 2: It's not war, it is correction.
You say that God would love to save all mankind, but man has a free will and will not believe. They don't believe in God beacuse they are under the curse of God, condemned already from the time they are born. If God wanted to save all mankind, He would save all mankind, after all He is God. An Omnipotent God is obligated to no one. If He wanted to save everyone, He would not have put the Curse. The curse is there because Adam disobeyed. By Him disobeying, we would know Jesus Christ, God's Son. Without the curse there would be no need for Christ. No need for God justice, or even His love. Man is born in sin for a purpose. All things have a purpose with God.
---Mark_V. on 10/1/13


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10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish, because THEY RECEIVED NOT the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

nothing in this verse about ..."because God chose them to not believe so they couldn't be saved"...

Good work Shira. It's amazing how more and more hateful and angry Markv is getting these days. He is only hateful to those who openly confront him. He's very nice to those who, although disagree with him in doctrine, never say so, but suck up to his person. This tells me Markv is not here for HIS TRUTH but for his own personal gain. No one who is that two faced is really called by God to begin with. That's a FACT. He's a joke.

---kathr4453 on 10/1/13


Mark_V.: "What I see most of you opposers to God's soverign right doing is lying about what we say. It's a habitual sin most of you have. You are no different then Kathr with her lies."

Matthew 7:3
---Steveng on 9/30/13


kathr, it don't bother me one bit. I do have my armour and darts just bounce off me. I am grounded enough and I can hold my own. thanks for your support kathr. it is nice to have someone on my side for a change. I know God don't give life just so they can go to hell. I also know God knows everything in the future but I also know God will change His mind. He even was sorry He made man. God would love for all mankind to be saved but we also know they won't believe in Him.
---shira4368 on 9/30/13


Oh my shira, now you will be called a dog and swine..LOL!

Sticks and stones....Hahaha!

I'm sure Shira like all of us have on the WHOLE ARMOR of God to quench your fiery darts! Here's mud in your eye MarkV!
---kathr4453 on 9/30/13


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markv has declared war on me. lol
---shira4368 on 9/30/13


markv, I did not say anyone is justified in doing wrong. when we sin, we will pay but we are still forgiven.
---shira4368 on 9/30/13


Shira, in (Matt. 6:14)says,
"neither will the Father forgive your trespasses" is not suggesting that God will withdraw Justification from those who have already received the free pardon He extends to all believers. Forgiveness in that sense is a permenant and complete acquital from the guilt and ultimate penalty of sin that belongs to all who are in Christ (John 5:24: Rom. 8:1: Eph. 1:7). yet Scripture teaches that God chastens His children who disobey (Heb. 12:5-7). Believers are to confess their sins in order to obtain a day to day cleansing (1 John 1:9). This forgiveness is a simple washing from the worldly defilements of sin, not a repeat of the wholesale cleansing from sin's corruption that comes from justification.
---Mark_V. on 9/30/13


markv, I really need to respond to you about the biblical view of forgiveness. doesn't scripture say if we don't forgive, God will not forgive us then it goes on telling us to forgive 70x70x70. so you are wrong again. if you want to see a sample of that, read about David. He deliberately sinned even adultery and murder. He lost his joy and he prayed for many days for God to restore him. you also say God didn't say He would forgive us over and over. you are wrong again. God said He would not forgive us if we couldn't forgive others then He goes on to say we must forgive 70x70x70. you say things and then deny you say them. you have been doing that for a while. I don't lie on anyone and I don't lie against anyone.
---shira4368 on 9/29/13


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Markv, you did say we won't know we are saved til the day of judgement. I will find it. I don't tell lies about anyone or to anyone. I'm wondering if you can forget things you write about.
---shira4368 on 9/29/13


Shira, you say,
"markv, the only thing you talk about is predestine." Everything in the Bible is about lost man, and how Christ came to seek and save, He never mentioned you had to choose Him with your own free will. Then say:
"another thing you have said is we won't know if we are saved til judgement day."
Now you are lying about things I have never said.
I have given (Eph. 2:4-10) many times. We are saved by Grace through faith while we were dead in trespasses and sins. "Saved" is past tense. hello? What I see most of you opposers to God's soverign right doing is lying about what we say. It's a habitual sin most of you have. You are no different then Kathr with her lies.
---Mark_V. on 9/29/13


markv, you still speak of things you know nothing about. I didn't say anything about God or Jesus. you are the one who mentioned that. I just told you to read all the bible and not one verse. you know the new testament is about salvation and doctrine. over and over it says Christ died for all of mankind. yes I did tell one person their doctrine is messed up. they come in little black suits and knock on everyone's door. one even had a tray of donuts. when I told him he was a false prophet, he left.
markv, the only thing you talk about is predestine. look at all your post. all the same. another thing you have said is we won't know if we are saved til judgement day. I have no doubt about my salvation.
---shira4368 on 9/28/13


Shira, have you ever told another brother in person he was pathetic in his beliefs? here you said it to me, I know the reason, because I speak for God and you speak for man.
You said you were sorry, but you are not sorry about what I said about God. I rather you be sorry to Him and not me. I am nobody, He is Almighty God.
God does as He pleases and does not have to go by your standards as to what is right and what is wrong to do. After all we all exist by the will of His power. Be sorry to Him not me, you are not in my hands, you are in the hands of God. And He does what pleases Him. "He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35).
---Mark_V. on 9/28/13


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markv, you aren't pathetic as a person but anyone who believes God brings people into the world already going to hell is pathetic. I'm sorry you think I was talking to you as a person. you are a brother and I love you as a brother.
---shira4368 on 9/27/13


Shira, I always answer you kindly and with Scripture, and you turn around and call me pathetic and twist what I say, you say,
"markv, you are pathetic in your beliefs. do you still think no one knows if they are saved until judgement day?" I have never thought what you said. Don't invent things to argue like Kathr does all the time.
I suppose being kind to you is not worth it.
The more you hear about our Omnipotent God, the more you get angry. You don't have to believe in the God of the Bible, you can continue to believe in the god you created in your own mind. I am not responsible for your soul. I am only here to answer questions of Scripture with Scripture. Nothing more. Your destiny is in the hands of God.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/13


markv, as usual you write a very long "chapter" on the elect. God would not like anyone going to hell but the unsaved will surely go. God made a way of redemption for all men. I actually can't phathom you believe some are born for hell. wow, that is so radical.
---shira4368 on 9/26/13


markv, you are pathetic in your beliefs. do you still think no one knows if they are saved until judgement day? wow, whatever. so...you are saying we can do anything in the flesh that we want to do with no consequences? the truth is a born again Christian can sin but God even in His longsuffering won't allow a Christian to keep sinning. no one knows when we get to the end of the line before God punishes His people. God loved us so much, He does give us chance after chance.
---shira4368 on 9/26/13


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Shira, if all are the elect by God, all would be saved. If Jesus paid the debt for all mankind, everyone would be righteous before God. None of that is true.
Here is one of many passages. Paul talking to the Church in Thessalonia:
"We give thanks to God always for you all (the church are believers) making mention of you in our prayers, remembering you.....of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father, "knowing beloved brethren, your election by God." For our gospel did not come to you in Word only: (which indicates it comes in word only to the non-elect) but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and with much assurance..." (1 Thess. 1:1-5).
---Mark_V. on 9/26/13


Lets keep the parable in it's context. Jesus is explain how the Kingdom of God works to man. The word is the smallest seed but when it grows it will grow larger than any of the crap, you have growing in your life. That is not end time judgment, that is right here right now, what you sow you will reap. Sow life reap life sow any thing else I will see it on youtube.
---Bryan on 9/25/13


markv always is confused by the elect. every human is the elect. we all have an opportunity to be saved. Christ died for all humanity.
---shira4368 on 9/25/13


No verse in scripture says "ONLY THE ELECT HEAR the Word IN POWER" and the non-elect only hear the WORD without Power. What a bunch of hogwash SOME PEOPLE post here. The POWER is in God's Word, NOT YOUR EARS. So, SOME HERE are saying only the Elect have empowered ears, placing God's POWER on ears and Not the WORD itself.

Some people on line here make up so many things and never back it up with scripture. It's so laughable.
---kathr4453 on 9/25/13


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Bryan, Seed time, is the preaching of the gospel, God's word. That never passes away. Jesus said,
"Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away" (Matt. 24:35).
The harvest comes at the Second Coming of Christ at the Judgment of the Gentiles when the Son of Man comes in His glory with the holy angels (Matt. 25:31-46). When the sheep and the goats are separated.
---Mark_V. on 9/25/13


Kathr, to argue again as always you say ,
"The WORD of God "IS" LIVING AND POWERFUL AND STRONGER THAN TWO EDGE SWORD." meaning that it is always powerful, so if it is, why hasn't the Word of God penetrated your heart?
I will tell you why, because it came to you in word only, not in power or the Holy Spirit. Only the elect receive the Word of God in power and in the Holy Spirit with much assurance (1 Thess. 1:4,5). Why do you think so many have no assurance and believe they lose their salvation? One day you will understand maybe. Then you will speak for the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 9/25/13


Bryan, is this what you mean?

Acts 6:9-11

9 Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.

10 And they were not able to resist the wisdom and the spirit by which he spake.

11 Then they suborned men, which said, We have heard him speak blasphemous words against Moses, and against God.
---kathr4453 on 9/25/13


4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
---kathr4453 on 9/25/13


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The Word has to come to you in power and in the Holy Spirit to save you (1 Thess. 1:4,5)

---Mark_V. on 9/24/13


The WORD of God "IS" LIVING AND POWERFUL AND STRONGER THAN TWO EDGE SWORD.

is there any scripture where the Word of God is not? And we know the Preaching of the Gospel is the POWER OF GOD.

But MarkV, you don't preach the Gospel, so you have never experienced that POWER. God will not empower lies. ONLY TRUTH.
---kathr4453 on 9/24/13


If you understood Mark chapter 4 the first parable Jesus taught us. He tells us what happens when his word goes forth, Some will us it for good and some will us it for evil. Cause evil has not power it has to steal it. God has treasures in earthen vessel, God said that not you. Who is stealing the treasures out of the vessels? Who is deceiving people into doing evil? God? The way to stop the evil is to sow the Gospel so the Gospel will choke out the seeds of evil in our lives first then the rest of the world. Jesus said, Were is your Faith?
---Bryan on 9/24/13


Bryan, you don't understand the work of God. You say,
"That is the word of God, It will produce life or death you choice." It's not your choice. The Word has to come to you in power and in the Holy Spirit to save you (1 Thess. 1:4,5) Then you say,
"You believe God choices" Yes, it's what the Word of God tells us.
Then say,
" God Just gives we choice what we believe God just gives." In your lost condition you can never choose Christ (Rom. 3:11) "There is none who seek after God". Those dead in trespasses and sins, have no faith. They have to be made spiritually alive together with Christ (Eph. 2:4,5) Satan is not to blame for the curse God put on mankind.
---Mark_V. on 9/24/13


I try to tell you and you don't believe me. Gods' word is not a respecter of person, Jesus said I set before you life or death, I give you my all to all Few are those who find it. They are using the only power on this earth for Mankind. That is the word of God, It will produce life or death you choice. You believe God choices God Just gives we choice what we believe God just gives. What does satan do? Steals kills and destroyers your things, He careless about your things he is after one thing your faith. If he gets it he will kill you with it. God is still in control it is his word being used if it is not being used for life what is it being used for?
---Bryan on 9/23/13


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Matthew 9:36 "But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd. Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few, Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest."
---Nana on 9/22/13


Bryan, if what you say is true in all cases, and you said,
" But the word tells us right now you will reap what you sow right now this every hour, this every moment."
Then tell me why are so many murderers, molesters, blasphemers, and just plain sinners, living better the the people of God? They seem to be doing pretty good in this life, murderers not get caught, molesters in every neighborhood. Are the reaping what they sow right now? Drug lords living in mansions with servants. They sure are reaping what they sow. Bryan they will pay for what they have done when the time comes.
---Mark_V. on 9/22/13


There is future time when the angel will do a harvest of souls, But the word tells us right now you will reap what you sow right now this every hour, this every moment. That is bible not only in the future but right now in. Seed time and harvest So you bess be wise on what you are sowing God is no mocked You will reap what you sow right in front of you on eyes. I would call that your on harvest not the one the angels will be doing for Jesus.
---Bryan on 9/21/13


Bryan, the seed time is now and the harvest time is yet to come. The harvest time is a future event. The wheat does grow together with the tares. In the visible church, the gathering of believers, the wheat, is gathered together with the tares. In the spiritual Church of Christ there is no tares. All believers are baptized into one spiritual body in Christ Jesus.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/13


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Again which is greater the wheat or what the enemy has sown in your field? One will get chocked out which one is chocked in your field?
---Bryan on 9/21/13


Bryan, you now ask:
"Which is greater the wheat or the tares? You said they are growing together which is greater the tares or the wheat?"
Christan was quoting what God's word says, Bryan, and did you not read the passage he put down? "the tares are bind in bundles to be burn."
And what was gathered together to be saved in the barn? "The Wheat." Is that so hard to understand what was saved and what was burned?
---Mark_V. on 9/17/13


"Seed time and Harvest when did it pass away?" It did not.
"While the earth remains, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night, shall not cease. Gen 8:22
---josef on 9/13/13


Which is greater the wheat or the tares? You said they are growing together which is greater the tares or the wheat? The is what produce both but which is greater? The Tares? "SIN" disbelief of the word.
---Bryan on 9/13/13


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The wheat and the tares will co-exist till it's God's time to harvest what belongs to Him to be in His barn and those who doesn't belong to Him to be thrown into the fire.

"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." Matthew 13:30

It's still ongoing and will be so till the end of time.
---christan on 9/12/13


Where did you get the idea they passed away?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/12/13


My Grandpa planted his garden back in May. We got a good crop of corn this year.

Greg Laurie just had his big Harvest rally in southern Cal. My church NewSpring just had its big fall evangelism service. The harvest is ripe but the workers are few.
---Scott1 on 9/12/13


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