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Elder, you have no understanding. Again you want to contradict Scripture when you give
"For the Son of Man has come to save that which is lost" We know that every descendant of Adam is lost. And we know that if He came to save that which is lost (everyone) then He lied because many had already died in their sin before He came. He came too late. So we know it does not mean all that are lost. Christ did not come here to see if there were any who would seek after Him, since we are told none seek after God in (Rom.3:11)
"For the Son of Man is come to seek and to save that which was lost" Notice it is not merely that He offers to, nor helps to, but that He actually saves.
---Mark_V. on 10/9/13


"God sent His Son into the world to seek and save that which is lost." It does not say He came to save all the lost. Since we know many are in hell already."
Mark_V.

What the verse DOES NOT say is, God sent His Son into the world to seek and save "some of those who are lost."
Limited atonement makes God weak.
If you do not twist the verse you can get the full meaning of what God's desire is.
God is not willing that any perish. It is their choice as to their positon in Christ. God has given mankind that choice just like He did Adam in the garden.
---Elder on 10/8/13


Shira, you say,
"I know the word "free will" is not in the bible but "choices" are in the bible." People making choices is mentioned, but it never says those making choices have a will that is free. Then say, "neither is "rapture" but we know a rapture is going to happen when Christ comes back to get His bride. Jesus said behold I stand at the door and knock." Rapture is not mentioned because there is no rapture. The word Trinity not mentioned but it is explained in Scripture. Then say,
" can't you understand when God knocks on our door, we don't have to answer the door?" God does not knock on our doors to ask permission, we are saved by grace through faith.
---Mark_V. on 10/8/13


markv, I know the word "free will" is not in the bible but "choices" are in the bible. neither is "rapture" but we know a rapture is going to happen when Christ comes back to get His bride. Jesus said behold I stand at the door and knock. can't you understand when God knocks on our door, we don't have to answer the door???
---shira4368 on 10/8/13


Shira, I am not trying to convince you, you say,
"God gave me free will to accept Him or reject Him." Free will is never mentioned by God. But it does tell us the will of lost man is in bondage. Dead in trepasses and sins. "There is none who understands, there is none who seek after God" To understand the Word you need the Holy Spirit. The Bible says you are wrong. Jesus says, that with man salvation is impossible. Then say,
" I choose to accept Him and I am saved." great. I hope you are. Then say,
" God sent His Son into the world to seek and save that which is lost." It does not say He came to save all the lost. Since we know many are in hell already.
---Mark_V. on 10/8/13




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markv, if you think your life is planned for you, you are a puppet. God gave me free will to accept Him or reject Him. I choose to accept Him and I am saved. God sent His Son into the world to seek and save that which is lost. we are all born lost. If you are saved its because when God spoke to your heart you accepted Him. I am not trying to convince you because you turn a deaf ear to the truth.
---shira4368 on 10/7/13


Mark we finally agree.
You told Shira, "Shira, you accuse me of speaking untruths. I spoke no untruths, show them."
I agree with you Shira can not show them.
It is because the bolgs are only 75 posts long and she can only use 125 words per post.
You said, "I spoke no untruths.." Well, that's another one. See what I mean?
---Elder on 10/7/13


Shira, you accuse me of speaking untruths. I spoke no untruths, show them. Then you want my opinion, "one question is what would humanity be like if we were puppets on the string of God?" we are not puppets. Everyone answers to God. Then asked,"who would benefit from churches, preachers and missionaries if we were puppets." You have got puppets and the will of God confused. Then asked," how would your life be is everything you did was planned out from the foundation of the world?" exactly as it is right now. Then say,
"I cannot even begin to tell you what Bro elder and sis Jareldeen have done." What matters is what God has done, for all good things come from above.
---Mark_V. on 10/7/13


The sign of godly rebuke is love. The difference between rebuke and unkindness isn't whats spoken but the motivation of love to see the truth benefit someone.
Without charity rebuke becomes destructive and mean spirited.
It's charitable to speak the truth, even when truth hurts (Eph 4:15). It's not loving to keep the truth a secret under the guise of love.
Open rebuke is better than secret love. Prov 27:5
Charity rejoices in truth and not iniquity (1 Cor 13:6). This requires we know the truth.
Rebuke is needed if we want to maintain a strong foundation upon the truth (1 Tim 3:15).
This is contrary to the modern love gospel which avoids hurt whatsoever. This leads us to despise rebuke, and avoid doctrinal truth.
---michael_e on 10/6/13




"Elder, I don't know how you can accuse me of unChrist statements. Or how you know CN shutdown the blogs because of me or not because of you or someone else."
MarkV
It is simple Mark. I filed the report!
To be honest you are not the only one though.
The staff of ChristiaNet is long suffering. That is why you and some others have not been deleted yet.
Many think they can post anything or language they want and C/N doesn't care. That is not so.
C/N is read by folks all around the world.
There were two blogs closed last week because of vulgar statements.
---Elder on 10/6/13


mark, mark, mark, you just don't get it. when you post the untruths about Bro. Elder, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. I did ask you some questions that you ignored. one question is what would humanity be like if we were puppets on the string of God? I also ask you who would benefit from churches, preachers and missionaries if we were puppets. a new question is how would your life be is everything you did was planned out from the foundation of the world? I will ask you if you refinance your home for the work of God? do you spend weeks at a time building, moving, begging for a little help for God? I cannot even begin to tell you what Bro elder and sis Jareldeen have done.
---shira4368 on 10/6/13


Elder, I don't know how you can accuse me of unChrist statements. Or how you know CN shutdown the blogs because of me or not because of you or someone else. Can you proof that? They can shut down anything they want, they don't have to answer to me. I answer you with the same respect you show me. But I still forgive you. You know not what you do. If anyone has made unChrist statements it is you. You have not defended God or have you given Him glory for your salvation. You always speak about the power of man and not the power of God. God is Omnipotent, If He wanted to save all people He would. No one can stop Him. But you say, man can with their free will. Now that is an ungodly statement.
---Mark_V. on 10/6/13


Mark you tell falsehoods when you post. You have did it again.
You can say what you want but as the longest poster on ChristiaNet I have never had my comments shutdown a blog. You have. Your unchristlike statements have shut down at least two blogs in the last 90 days.
So who stands for the things of Christ, me or you?
You forever misquote Scripture and people. You also misapply Scripture and distort God's message and then think you are the elect. You don't even know what/who the elect are. It is not you and christian and the like, that's for sure.
---Elder on 10/5/13


Elder, all you do is talk, make accusations and throw jabs about me. Do you think you are in right standings with God when you do that? What you do is give evidence of the free will salvation you think you have.
When I debated with you all you did was call me names and got personal with me, not one time did you give the glory and honor to God for your salvation. Then you run like all those who are lost. They hear the Truth, call you names, and then run away. I gave you scripture you only give ungodly words. You say man can, I say God can. You deny Our Sovereign God and His Word.
It also gives proof that you were predestine to do that. You are on the same road as Kathr.
---Mark_V. on 10/5/13


Who do you suppose were the "parents" of the Nephilim race?
---Steveng on 10/4/13


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How convenient MarkV to do away with the trinity when it seems convenient to you. We are begotten sons THROUGH JESUS CHRIST who first was made flesh, as the Holy Spirit overshadowed Mary. Jesus was not ALWAYS fully God Fully MAN in order to bring many SONS INTO GLORY.

you have no understanding about salvation, or do you remotely understand Hebrews 2.

You're simply a heretic with a comic book approach to truth. So who is Jesus in the flesh Father? DAHHH!
---kathr4453 on 10/4/13


kathr4453 to Mark V, "... we all thought YOU understood parables being the ELECT who alone only had ears to hear."

kathr, Kathr, oh Kathr, just when are you going to see??
Don't you yet realize that Mark is one of the elect. The only problem is that he is one of those elected to not be saved. This is proven by his comic book approach to the Scripture.
---Elder on 10/4/13


satan didn't father children but the children of satan are the unsaved....ones who are not born again.
---shira4368 on 10/4/13


Kathr, your accusations and comments about me will not bring light to your darkness. They are not of God. Here you say,
"..And markv actually wants us to believe SATAN literally fathered children too."
Kathr, I cannot make you believe anything. Only God has that power over the lost.
I have never said satan literally fathered children, I don't know why you would even say that. Which is a dumb lie. (Gen. 3:14) tells us that God called satan seed, his children (John 8:44). God did not say satan fathered them, but that they were his children. God also didn't Father Jesus, Jesus is eternal for He is God. He did not Father us, He adopted us to be His children when He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world.
---Mark_V. on 10/4/13


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MarkV During the flood God wiped out many people. He wiped out many in Sodom. He wiped out many in Egypt. But you think He isn't allowed to call "the children" serpents and vipers.
//
Please, stop accusing Jesus of saying things he did not say//
Who do you think is saying these things?
Matt 23, Jesus is speaking, and He is speaking to "the children".
Study Mark
---michael_e on 10/4/13


MarkV, you just don't get it. Michael_e never suggested God meant that as LITERAL serpents. However He did call them that, as well as GENTILES dogs.

MarkV will you ever stop with the double talk?

Seeing how you tweeked what you copied and pasted, leaving out intentionally GENTILE in the original post you copied from another source, is it because YOU are a Gentile? and that somehow conflicts with your "election" status and not considered a CHILD in the first place. I do believe THAT is the issue here with you...it interferes with your false teachings.
---kathr4453 on 10/4/13


michael, in (Matt. 23:32,33) in not suggesting to the world that the Pharisees were really literal vipers or serpents. Please, stop accusing Jesus of saying things he did not say. They were like in their actions as serpents and vipers. It is a figure of speech. A comparison only. When Jesus mentions things like that we are not to take it literally. That He called them serpents and vipers is true, but you have have to understand it was not literal. Jesus was not giving the definition of what a human being is. Get it?
---Mark_V. on 10/4/13


I found where Markv copied and pasted ONLY WHAT HE WANTED TO paste rearranging and deleting where he saw he was wrong. How dishonest will you get MarkV.??

First: The illustration Jesus gave was in essence a test of the womans faith. Jesus first responsibility was to preach the gospel to the children of Israel (Rom. 1:16, 15:8). But that also implied there would come a time when Gentiles would be the recipients of Gods blessings.

The childrens bread, and to cast it unto the dogs: The childrens bread refers to Gods blessings offered to the Jews. This picture indicates that the dogs (Gentiles) had a place in the household of God, but not the prominent one (see note on Matt. 15:26).
---kathr4453 on 10/3/13


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MarkV // dogs that were kept as pets.// And "the children" were simply little kids?
Matt. 23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Jesus calls "the children" serpents and vipers, but he can't call gentiles dogs?
Study Mark
---michael_e on 10/3/13


Michael_e and Bryan, EXCELLANT POSTS. And markv actually wants us to believe SATAN literally fathered children too.


When the Lord tried to show Peter Gentiles were no longer unclean, God sent him a dream about ANIMALS on a sheet. THEN he went to Cornelius.
---kathr4453 on 10/3/13


The diminutive form suggest that this reference is to dogs that were kept as pets.

---Mark_V. on 10/3/13


Markv, do you even know what "diminutive form" means? Did you copy and paste this part? LOLAROTF!

You actually believe a woman asked Jesus to heal her daughter, and Jesus answers here by giving instructions about household pets? And of all thing, the woman understood this? and because she understood all about the importance or lack there of Jesus says "GREAT, because you understand how I feel about household pets and their place, I am going to heal your daughter".

WONDERFUL! People, just know the pets place in the order of Spiritual things and WALLA, your healed! LOL!
---kathr4453 on 10/3/13


michael e, the passage you gave,
"27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs."
Nowhere does that passage teach that Jesus called human beings dogs. To imply it does, is to add your own meaning which is not there.
The diminutive form suggest that this reference is to dogs that were kept as pets.
First the illustration Jesus gave was in essence a test of the woman's faith. Jesus "first responsibility was to preach the gospel to the children of Israel (Rom. 1:16: 15:8). But that was also implied there would come a time when Gentiles would be the recipients of God's blessings.
---Mark_V. on 10/3/13


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If what your sharing lifts up the body of Christ go for it. But if what your sharing belittle and degrades Jesus in all of us. markv have enough gust to say you just don't believe Jesus called people dogs or swine. Cause I would say that the people u insult have Jesus in their heart so you would be Kicking Jesus in them. Kicking Jesus is not a good thing would you say markv?
---Bryan on 10/3/13


Whom did the Lord Jesus call dogs? Whom did the Lord Jesus call serpents? Whom did He call a generation of vipers? In Mark 7:26 to 28 Jesus called Greeks, dogs. In Matt 23:32 to 39 the Lord Jesus called His own people, the Jews, serpents. At the time He called the Greeks, dogs, He called the Jews, children. He said to the Greek, let the children first be filled. Mark 7:27. The children of Mark 7:27 are the serpents of Matt 23:33. They again became the children of Acts 3:25. children changed to serpents and then back to children.
---michael_e on 10/2/13


kathr4453 That was funny "SEWING LESSONS" good word.
---Bryan on 10/2/13


MarkV, what an immature way to answer. So because you are wrong you hurl insults? You know those verses I posted have nothing to do with a DOG when Jesus answered the woman. And you idiot, the woman did not ask food for any dog. Nor ask that her dog be healed.

So ask yourself, why did Jesus answer her and even bring up a dog to begin with? COULD it possibly be the woman was a GENTILE? Se certainly wasn't someone who trampled underfoot Jesus. If that were so, she never would have asked IN FAITH.

Markv, when Jesus said don't sew new cloth on old worn out cloth, He wasn't giving SEWING LESSONS either. You are so daft.

And we all thought YOU understood parables being the ELECT who alone only had ears to hear. LOL
---kathr4453 on 10/2/13


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Same story in Mark:

25 For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:

26 The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation, and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.

27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.

28 And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs.

29 And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way, the devil is gone out of thy daughter.

30 And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed.
---kathr4453 on 10/2/13


Kathr, ok, I agree with you, you are a dog returning to your own vomit every time you reject the Truth and accuse me of something. It is the same vomit everyday. You want to convince me Jesus said human are dogs. Like I said if your interpretation is correct then you are a dog or a swine. Do you really believe Jesus Christ would call human beings dogs and swine? I told you, you have the wrong Jesus.
---Mark_V. on 10/2/13


a dog does turn to his own vomit. I have even seen one eat is stool. made me throw up. literally, it did.
---shira4368 on 10/1/13


Markv, why are you insisting Jesus was schizophrenic? Or is it you who is? Jesus just finished preaching what? And then He turns to His disciples , ((who were not even pearl divers to begin with)) and tells them not to throw their pockets full of pearls to the swine? So were pearls of some HOLY SUBSTANCE or something? You say it was literally meant? Real pearls and real swine as in animals? And why on earth would anyone need to be told not to throw that which is Holy to the dogs. So we see a verse, even dogs eat the crumbs from your table so its ok for them to eat the crumbs from the table , but just dont give it to them???
You just like christen love to argue, just to argue.
---kathr4453 on 10/1/13


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I love this verse!

Matthew 15:25-28

25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.
---kathr4453 on 10/1/13


Kathr, the passages in Poverbs The analogy of dogs comes from Proverbs, "As a dog returns to its vomit" "so a fool" repeats his folly (Proverbs 26:11)." The passage is not saying human beings are dogs, it is saying that fools act like dogs in the way they do things. And (2 Peter 2:22) happen according to the true poverb (2 Peter 2:22).
Human beings act like dogs, they are not dogs.
Are you a dog or a swine? I sure hope not. That would mean I have been writing to a dog or a swine. I know they cannot read, and you sure can. I tell you the Truth, you reject it. You continue to turn the truth to a lie. What are you?
---Mark_V. on 10/1/13


The analogy of dogs comes from Proverbs, "As a dog returns to its vomit" so a fool repeats his folly (Proverbs 26:11). Swine are also illustrated by Peter Of them (false prophets and teachers) the proverbs are true, "A dog returns to its vomit, and, A sow that is washed goes back to her wallowing in the mud" (2 Peter 2:22). The dogs and swine here are representative of those who would ridicule, reject, and blaspheme the gospel once it has been given to them. We are not to put forth the gospel of Jesus Christ in the direction of someone who has no other purpose than to trample it and return to his own evil ways. We identify such people through discernment, given in some measure to all Christians (1 Corin 2:15-16).
---kathr4453 on 10/1/13


Steven, I did not twist what you said, I was in fact complimenting what you said to show why humans would not trample 100 dollar bills, only real dog's and swine would, since they have no knowledge of value of money. Your answer was a good example.
---Mark_V. on 10/1/13


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Mark_V.: "Steven said pearls were like 100 bills,.."

At it again, I see. Twisting posts. Don't you ever quit? It's becoming a habit with you. You take a simple post and twist it - much like you do with scripture.
---Steveng on 9/30/13


Mark your still out of context. Every time I Preached to a 4 LEGGED DOGS they just waggles their tails and tries to lick my nose. But sometime when I share the Gospel with religious people they try to rend me apart like a wild dog. I think everybody can c that pretty clear.
---Bryan on 9/30/13


then by that definition I am giving the truth to you and Kathr who are dogs and swine. because you trample the truth.


---Mark_V. on 9/30/13
who's truth markv, Calvin's? Yours?

Seems you do a lot of trampling yourself...so dog here is only relative to markv's interpretation.

Jesus already gave me the truth, and the Holy Spirit brings us into all truth. YOU however markv are NOT Jesus or the Holy Spirit.

Again go pee on someone else's tree!
---kathr4453 on 9/30/13


Bryan, Jesus never called people dogs. You have (Matt. 7:6) wrong. Do human beings who you say are dogs, tear you to pieces? Real dogs can tear you to pieces.
(Matt. 8:22) Jesus is talking about those who are spiritually dead burying their own physically dead.
"But Jesus said to him, "Follow Me, and let the dead bury their own dead."
Second if your definition of what Jesus said was concerning humans as dogs and swine, then by that definition I am giving the truth to you and Kathr who are dogs and swine. because you trample the truth.
Steven said pearls were like 100 bills, would human being trample 100 bills? No way.
---Mark_V. on 9/30/13


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You did not believe Jesus called people dogs or swine. Matthew 7:6 He even called some people dead. But yet they were still breathing? Matthew 8:22 The truth is he did. But it was before the New Covenant had been established. He first gave the word to the Jew when the rejected it. Then he gave it to the rest of us. I c you have made a religion of the scripture.
---Bryan on 9/29/13


You did not believe Jesus called people dogs or swine. Matthew 7:6 He even called some people dead. But yet they were still breathing? Matthew 8:22 The truth is he did. But it was before the New Covenant had been established. He first gave the word to the Jew when the rejected it. Then he gave it to the rest of us. I c you have made a religion of the scripture.
---Bryan on 9/29/13


Bryan, also in Hebrew 10, says "trample underfoot" the Son of God...insult one spirit of Grace, etc.

Great post.
---kathr4453 on 9/29/13


C'mon, people. Think.

The verse in Matthew 7:6 is simply a simile. "Pearls" are something of value. Let's replace "pearls" with something of real value: $100 dollar bills (well, maybe not of real value anymore). Would you throw a thousand $100 bills in a pigsty? No, of course not. They do not have any concept of what you have thrown in and, in turn, just trample on it. Neither do they have any concept of the value of pearls. And if the pearls don't serve the pig's purpose (anything edible) they will turn on you for wasting their time chasing something they cannot eat.
---Steveng on 9/29/13


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Lets go back and C who Jesus was talking about. Everybody has a bible. I have never had a 4 legged dog or a real pig, swine turn and rend me for sharing the Gospel with it. Some religious folks do that when you share the Gospel with them. They will want to do more than just rend you they will want to kill me over their religious beliefs. Matthew 7:6 "preals" "lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you". The only other place, in the word that it get trample under feet is in the first parable Jesus taught us. One of those things people do to the word not animals. Matthew 13, Mark 4 and in Luke 8. C it you might believe it.
---Bryan on 9/29/13


When jesus said, "Do not give what is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before swine," it really meant real dogs and swine. It is necessary to discern dogs and swine from one's own brethren. This was said not to be done in respect for what is holy, not merely out of contempt for the dogs and swine. If it meant what you said, it would also contradict (Matt. 5:44) about loving your enemies.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/13

That's hilarious. Wonder why Jesus didn't mention cats and birds? Are PEARLS here literal too? Or is Jesus saying make sure you don't let's dogs get into the Holy Water.

DISCERN between brethren and literal dogs and swine. How hard is that. Dogs and swine don't even look like humans. What's to discern?
---kathr4453 on 9/29/13


Now Markv, ask Christan his motive for posting these verses. He does it often. And has been called out for it.

I was just letting Bryan know the history behind Christan posting these verses whenever he gets frustrated with those who reject his doctrine.

Learn to read MarkV.
---kathr4453 on 9/29/13


Kathr, you say about me,
". As for Markv, they are cohorts. If you don't believe as they do...according to them, you are a dog and swine. He doesn't realize Jesus said those words BUT NOWHERE gave us permission to repeat them as a curse to say to others. That's witchcraft."
I would never call a person a dog or a swine. Jesus never called anyone a dog or a swine. But I can call you a witch for what you say. Only a witch would say what you say about others. A witch is still a person, you are not a dog or swine. You are just a lost person making up lies.
Bryan is a good guy, preaching in every blog to sow the word. You are on every blog, speaking against the Word of God. Very much difference between the two of you.
---Mark_V. on 9/29/13


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Bryan, don't be offended by Christan calling people dogs here. He does this all the time when he gets frustrated THAT no one takes him seriously. He always BOLDS that verse and the other too, as if HE is giving it MORE power. As for Markv, they are cohorts. If you don't believe as they do...according to them, you are a dog and swine. He doesn't realize Jesus said those words BUT NOWHERE gave us permission to repeat them as a curse to say to others. That's witchcraft. You will know them by their rotten fruit as well.
---kathr4453 on 9/28/13


Bryan, I am not a muslim as you accuse me of. I am a Christian who studies the Word of God and can discern when someone comes on line preaching and not teaching from Scripture. you accuse others of religious talk when it is you who is doing religious talk with no Scripture. That is the reason you make so many mistakes. you use Christian language many use to speak, but what you say is not true many times, that is the reason many answer you. They are not muslems either. Are you a muslim in sheeps clothing? You sound like a nice guy, but many nice guys are going to hell. Nice muslims too. Nice people from all nations and religions.
---Mark_V. on 9/28/13


for the sins of people Mark not dogs. dogs can't sin. They could careless about the word of God. markv from now on you will be known as out of context. And Jesus was explaining the Who he came to save first. but you will be out of context with that to because that is who you are out of context what are you a secret muslim?
---Bryan on 9/27/13


Bryan, you are accusing Jesus Christ of calling human beings dogs?
So Jesus came to die for the sins of dogs? And when you say to go and sow the word of God you should sow the word to dogs, because dogs to you are people?
Come on Bryan, Jesus never called human beings dogs. I cannot believe what you say so many times.
When jesus said, "Do not give what is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before swine," it really meant real dogs and swine. It is necessary to discern dogs and swine from one's own brethren. This was said not to be done in respect for what is holy, not merely out of contempt for the dogs and swine. If it meant what you said, it would also contradict (Matt. 5:44) about loving your enemies.
---Mark_V. on 9/27/13


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Let see who called unbelievers dogs? Matthew 7:6 Do not give what is holy to the dogs, nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. Before the New Covenant. The Gospel mark why do you kick Jesus.
---Bryan on 9/26/13


Bryan, you now say,

"Then quite calling people dogs"

It was you who called people dogs. You said in the Old Testament they were called dogs. How quickly you turned it around to sound so righteous. Are you doing all this preaching because your mind has been transformed? If it has, why don't you yet believe how a person is saved?
---Mark_V. on 9/25/13


Then quite calling people dogs. They are only believers and unbelievers, and the word sown can change a unbeliever into a believer that is what it did to you did it not, do that to you? Either you believe or you don't. Flat out what parts of the word do you believe? No excuses no hiding behind your religion either, you believe his word or you make excuse why you can't. There is very little middle ground here in fact, Grace is the middle ground, but that can be warren thin to. Just ask Paul, He found that out the hard way, with a thorn in his flesh. Mark chapter 4
---Bryan on 9/21/13


Bryan, people were not called dogs and swine in the Old Testament. Jesus was giving a metaphor when He said, "Do not give what is holy to the dogs nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces"
Jesus was not indicating people were dogs, His demonstration were real dogs and swine trampling what is holy, you and the word, and possibly tearing you apart. Humans are not dogs who tear other human apart or swine who tear you apart. Jesus would never call man a dog literally. People many times act like dogs but are never mentioned as dogs.
Jesus point was to take the gospel to those who are worthy.
---Mark_V. on 9/19/13


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The thing I was saying at this time in our history there is only believers an nonbelievers. Some people say don't give you pearls to swine or dogs. That was what the people were call before the New Covenant was established. Jesus tore the vale. Removing the separation between God and all men, No person is a Dog or a swine any more they the have the right to hear the Gospel as much as any.
---Bryan on 9/18/13


Bryan, for your information, God has been saving people all through history. Salvation is by grace through faith in the Old Testament and in the New Testament. The Old Testament looked forward to the coming of Christ, and the New Testament look back at the Sacrifice of Christ who came and died for our sins. I am speaking of believers. Israel had the oracles of God and were under a covenant of works of obedience. The law could not save them because none could keep the law perfect, they could only be save by the grace of God through faith in the works of Christ who kept the law perfect.
---Mark_V. on 9/17/13


When Jesus made that statement, Had the New Covenant Been establish yet?? If your were not Jewish you were a dog. Now that the New Covenant has been established. Their is not more dogs. We all have the right to the Word of God. Thank you Jesus.
---Bryan on 9/16/13


"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6

This is the Word of God.
---christan on 9/13/13

Scriptures that cause many to knash and rend.

Mat_10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Am sure Lord didn't fail here. Perhaps you have fear in your heart?

Jer 32:40 And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good, but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.
---Trav on 9/16/13


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people in the new testament read Isaiah.
---shira4368 on 9/15/13


Jesus sent followers out, they were still under the law. What do you think the followers shared? What books of the bible did they have? Acts, Hebrews, I & II Peter? All they had was what Jesus had sow in they the Gospel. Jesus is here and still giving life to who so ever. We are not under any law we are under the Gospel. What you sow is what you reap. If you are sowing any part of the law you will reap the judgment of the law. That should scare the hell out of you when your sharing the word. Not to give out laws but Grace and Mercy.
---Bryan on 9/14/13


Bryan, don't get mad. Do you remember reading when Jesus sent out the disciples what He told them in (Matt. 10:5-11)?
(V. 11,12)"Now whatever city or town you enter, inquire who in it is worthy, and stay there till you go out. And when you go into a household, greet it, If the household is worthy, let your peace come upon it. But if it is not worthy, let you peace return to you." Yes, Christan is correct. when we begin to preach the gospel Truth, and they are not worthy to hear it, we should take our peace back. Those are instuctions Jesus gave the disciples. Then read who Jesus said were not worthy of Him in (verses 10:37,38) and said, "He who receives you receives Me" thats the one worthy.
---Mark_V. on 9/14/13


What peals are yours? The word is not yours to keep it was freely give to you. Jesus was talking about gentiles. But that has passed. Now we are in the New Covenant Saved by grace is not a peal you keep for yourself. It is what you sow, if you don't sow the word how do you except to receive a harvest from it? Religion is not what God gave he gave us his word. And it works when it is SOWN.
---Bryan on 9/13/13


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"Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you." Matthew 7:6

"And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city." Mark 6:11

This is the Word of God.
---christan on 9/13/13


So you believe you have the right to say who gets the Gospel and who does not? Is a candle hide under a basket? No you let it light up the whole room. The wheat and tares. If God word is sow it will produce, You have said it will not return VOID. So were did you get the right to pick and choose who gets it and who does not? Sow the Gospel stop the judging people with your religion.
---Bryan on 9/13/13


The Gospel of Grace came with a very heavy price and that was in the form of the death of the Lord Jesus Christ. His death fulfilled the demand of God's judgement for sinning against Him, and that's "for the wages of sin is death".

Preaching the Gospel does not make light nor forego the sinning of the man to God and that unless he repents to God, his soul is in danger of eternal death. No where in the Scripture are we told to start off the preaching of the Gospel without proclaiming first that we have all sinned against God.

It's true that we're not to judge the person personally with regards to their sin for we too are sinners.
---christan on 9/12/13


Other religions will sow their own seed of their religion. God has a purpose for them. So leave them be.

Only Christians will sow the seed of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. And be reminded what Christ said,

"Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn." Matthew 19:30
---christan on 9/12/13


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If someone sins do you judge them harshly (sowing religion) or do you love them back (sowing Gospel, grace).
---Scott1 on 9/12/13


Truth Or the Mystery of how the word of God works is in Matthew 13, Mark 4, and in Luke 8. The greatest of all the parables. When you understand this parable you will walk on water.
---Bryan on 9/12/13


We should sow the seed which is the word of God!
Luk_8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.

Luk_8:8 And (other fell on good ground,) and sprang up, and bare fruit an hundredfold. And when he had said these things, he cried,
He that hath ears to hear, let him hear!

Peace Bro, I hear you!
---TheSeg on 9/12/13


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