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Gospel Used In The Bible

Now many times is the word Gospel used in the Bible?

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//Hebrews is NOT talking about the Old and New Testaments of the Bible//
"And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament"
"Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated" without blood.
//Those terms for the two parts of the Bible were not even used until St. Melito of Sardis in 180.//
I seriously doubt melito knew more about Hebrews than the writer of Hebrews.
Why would you put more stock in commentaries than the writers of the Bible?
---michael_e on 9/30/13


michaele, Hebrews is NOT talking about the Old and New Testaments of the Bible.

Those terms for the two parts of the Bible were not even used until St. Melito of Sardis in 180. Certainly the writer of Hebrews was not thinking that way.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/30/13


Your point contradicts the Truth, again.
What does YOUR tradition say about these passages?

Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force AFTER men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. 18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
---michael_e on 9/30/13


\\Majority doesn't over rule truth.\\

But you don't have the truth, michaele. That's the point I'm trying to make to you.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/30/13


//YOU are the only one speaking against it. Therefore YOU must be wrong.//
Your tradition is a contradiction, therefore you are wrong. Majority doesn't over rule truth.
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force AFTER men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. 18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
---michael_e on 9/30/13




\\The Word apparently doesn't override your orthodox tradition.\\

It's a tradition followed in every Bible in every language I've ever seen and held by all Christians in the world.

YOU are the only one speaking against it. Therefore YOU must be wrong.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/29/13


The Word apparently doesn't override your orthodox tradition. Incidentally did you check your house for mirrors?
---michael_e on 9/29/13



I'm reasonably certain that YOU are not nor have ever been divinely inspired.---Cluny on 9/29/13


You don't actually think that YOU are do you?

I'm quite certain you aren't even saved!
---Jed on 9/29/13


\\You don't actually think that division was divinely inspired do you?\\

Can you prove it wasn't?

I'm reasonably certain that YOU are not nor have ever been divinely inspired.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/29/13


//Every Bible I've seen puts the Gospels in the NT.//
You don't actually think that division was divinely inspired do you? The OT was under the Law, as was Mt-Jn.
//It said that YOU thought you're special and superior.//
Do you have any mirrors in your house?
---michael_e on 9/28/13




\\//The NT includes the 4 canonical Gospels//
Hebrews contradicts your tradition.\\

Every Bible I've seen puts the Gospels in the NT.

And I never said I thought you were special. It said that YOU thought you're special and superior.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/28/13


//The NT includes the 4 canonical Gospels//
Hebrews contradicts your tradition.
I never thought of myself as special but I'm glad you do.
odd belief? orthodoxy?
---michael_e on 9/26/13


Your calling them OT does not make them OT.

The NT includes the 4 canonical Gospels.

I know you want to think that you are just a little bit special and spiritually superior since you believe this odd thing.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/25/13


michael e, the gospel started in (Gen. 3:15). It wasn't explained entirely. "I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and Her Seed, He shall bruise your head, An you shall bruise His heel"" First prophetic gospel of Jesus and struggle between "your seed" (Satan and unbelievers, called the devils children) and her Seed (Christ, a descendant of Eve, and those in Him) which began in the garden. In the mist of the curse passages, a message of hope in Jesus Christ came forth. The woman's offspring called "He" is Christ, who will one day defeat the Serpent. Satan could only "bruise" Christ's heel (cause Him to suffer), while Christ will destroy Satan's head.
---Mark_V. on 9/26/13


We read in Galatians:
And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed(3:8).


So maybe the word gospel wasn't used until Jesus earthly ministry re-iterated it, but we see in fact the gospel WAS preached to Abraham. Now to Abraham there was no earthly kingdom gospel preached. That came with the law of Moses, and we know the law and promised kingdom restored to THAT NATION did not annul those promises made to Abraham 400 years prior. It is this Gospel preached to Abraham that Paul is re-iterating to the gentile Galatians in Galatia. Paul is not preaching an earthly kingdom gospel to them.
---kathr4453 on 9/26/13


michael e.2: And since the gospel really began in (Gen. 3:15) the beginning of history, God immediately made available the redemption of man. As history began to continue, more and more was understood of the Gospel of Christ by the many prophets who taught about the Messiah. The Old Testament believers were saved the same way as those from the New Testament, by the grace of God. No other way. Through faith in Jesus Christ and His works. The Old looked forward to Christ, we look backward to His sacrifice. But salvation is by the Grace of God.
---Mark_V. on 9/26/13


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//Nowhere does Hebrews 9 say that the 4 Gospels are OT.

They are actually NT.

Try again.//
Try reading.
When did the testator die?
Heb 9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.17 For A TESTAMENT IS OF force AFTER men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
---michael_e on 9/25/13


\\Gospel is used 17 times in the OT. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, are technically OT, as per Heb 9.
---michael_e on 9/25/13\\

Nowhere does Hebrews 9 say that the 4 Gospels are OT.

They are actually NT.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/25/13


You are excused

Gospel is used 17 times in the OT. Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, are technically OT, as per Heb 9.
---michael_e on 9/25/13


No Markv, you read it, it says it is impossible to renew them (((again))) "to repentance". What did you think it meant? Impossible WHAT?

You are really on a hateful rage here. You are "everything" you accuse me of. Arguing night and day, because you simply cannot read and comprehend the Word of God.
---kathr4453 on 9/25/13


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\\Gospel is used 17 times in the OT.\\

Excuse me, but what English translation of the OT uses the word "gospel"? According to the search on Biblegateway, it is not used in the KJV OT at all.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/25/13


Being dead in sin is not the same as being physically dead. Markv has described a corpse.

Man's CONSCIENCE did not die at the fall of Adam. God works through our conscience..

BEING CONVICTED OUT OF HIS OWN CONSCIENCE..so says scripture of a sinner.

MarkV must have seared his own conscience, as we can see even today it's not working inn him. To continue to lie over and over without repentance when pointed out truths to him prove this fact. He just keeps lying.
---kathr4453 on 9/25/13


Kathr, before you talk about salvation, read the passage correctly. What does it say in the very beginning?
"For it is impossible" Do you get that? It is impossible period.
---Mark_V. on 9/25/13


Gospel is used 17 times in the OT. Matt thru John.
6 times in Acts.
Paul uses it 69 times in his writings.
Hebrews 1 time
James doesn't mention it.
Peter uses it 4 times
John and Jude don't mention it.
Rev. mentions it 1 time
---michael_e on 9/24/13


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Scott 1, you are misunderstanding the condition of lost man when you say,
""We are able to come or reject Him." That is the same thing.
An analogy, Person is drowning. (a sinner) God comes as a rescue diver and grabs the sinner."

Scott, the sinner is not drowning. He is dead in trespasses and sins. There is no breath in him. He cannot move, speak, see, think, understand, feel, or walk. God has to make him alive. Dead people cannot reject anything.
Why do you think the Bible tells us concerning the lost,
"There is none who understands, there is none who seek after God" (Rom. 3:11). you know why. Because they are dead. Not drowning.
---Mark_V. on 9/25/13


4 For it is impossible for those who were "once enlightened" and have "tasted of the heavenly gift" and "were made partakers of the Holy Ghost",5 "And have tasted the good WORD of God, and the powers of the world to come,"6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance, seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

I'm SURE God loved these as well. But did God fail here OR did man fail.

This verse PROVES Calvinism is false.
All cults can be exposed if held up to the book of Hebrews. There is more foundational truth in Hebrews then any other book. And you will certainly hear them cursing when you show them these truths.
---kathr4453 on 9/25/13


Although we know the redemptive work of Christs death and resurrection is the base of our message of salvation for today, be careful not to read into Jesus ministry what isn't there.
We would search in vain for a clear presentation of the preaching of the cross in the ministry of Jesus and the disciples in Matthew thru John
Jesus didn't preach his redemptive work on the cross for salvation during his ministry on earth. Jesus taught the gospel of the coming kingdom (Mark 1:14-15).
This gospel consisted of repentance from sin, doing the commandments, and seeking first the kingdom (Matt 5:19, 6:33). Although these ideas are commonly recognized as good and Biblical ideas, none include faith in the redemptive work of Christ on the cross.
---michael_e on 9/25/13


//God's power we choose God in love because he first loved us." //

able to come or reject Him

How is that double talk? I am just restating my first comment "We choose God..."
"We are able to come or reject Him." That is the same thing.
An analogy, Person is drowning. (a sinner) God comes as a rescue diver and grabs the sinner. (Holy Spirit speaks to the need of Christ's salvation). Person then has choice to fight God off or rest in his salvation.
---Scott1 on 9/24/13


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Scott 1, I want you to look at something you said very clear,
" Not that we conjuer up faith by ourselves but through God's power we choose God in love because he first loved us." So far so good explaining (Eph. 2:4), because of the power of God and His great love for you. So far so good.
Then say,
" If we are able to come to Him we are also able to reject Him"
You first say, because of His power and His love for you, you are able to love Him, then you say, if we are able to come to Christ we can reject Him.
Double talk there Scott1. While lost you do not have the ability to come to Christ. God has to make you alive together with Christ before you can believe in Him and trust Him.
---Mark_V. on 9/24/13


Thank you Scott1. I'm glad you saw that too.

Have you noticed when others bring these inconsistencies to Markv , he sees it too, panics because he cut and pasted it from a free will commentary by accident. I've seen that several times, and pointed it out. What happens is he attacks you personally to get the attention of his statement and off himself. he's really not as clever as he wants you to think.

Then he wants to explain what "born again" means. His Gnostic RCC version that is. Sorry Markv! I know what God's version means.
---kathr4453 on 9/24/13


Kathr, you talk so much you really don't realize what you say so many times. And other times, you do know what you are saying but in time you find out different so you say you never said it. Listen, I don't have the ability to go back and check other peoples comments like some here, I do not waste my time doing that. I stand on what you said.
You also mentioned Jesus became the Son, and I told you He has always been the Son, from all eternity. I remember I called you a heretic. I have not even forgotten. If you talked less, wrote down the passages and stated your comments on those passages you would do well, but all you do is talk and talk. I don't worry who you are. There's a purpose for you also in the plan of God, just like everyone else.
---Mark_V. on 9/23/13


Kathr, you say,
"You claim you were born again "without Faith"
here is how God makes us spiritually alive, born of God,
"And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins" when was that? When I was dead in trespasses and sins, I had no faith in God, He made me alive. Now continue:
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of the flesh.." Before I was made spiritually alive I had no faith. Faith did not save me, the Grace of God did. If you don't understand you will never understand.
---Mark_V. on 9/23/13


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//God forces no one lost to love Him are come to Him. He makes them able to come to Him and love Him, we love Him because He first loved us.//
MarkV

That is what we (Kathr and me) mean by free will. Not that we conjuer up faith by ourselves but through God's power we choose God in love because he first loved us. If we are able to come to Him we are also able to reject Him.
---Scott1 on 9/23/13


Hebrews 11:4
By faith Abel offered unto God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, by which he obtained witness that he was righteous, God testifying of his gifts: and by it he being dead yet speaketh.


Faith without works is DEAD, not faith at all, only head knowledge. TODAY, BY FAITH WE RECEIVE. Once we have received THEN we are Born Again.

You claim you were born again "without Faith" markv.

We are Born Again "through the WORD OF GOD", that is BELIEVING the WORD OF GOD.
---kathr4453 on 9/23/13


You who claimed you came to Christ with no faith,

---Mark_V. on 9/23/13

Now MarkV, how long will you bare rotten fruit to this continual lie. You're antics here are not cute at all except in your own delusional mind.

Where again did I say this? Like so many you falsely accuse, you never post a persons words, but make up lies, processed through your own twisted mind. MarkV, your doing so only re-iterates your own bad behavior here.

NO ONE IS SAVED APART FROM FAITH. THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH. YOU are the one who argues these truths.
---kathr4453 on 9/23/13


Kathr, again I say, you do a lot of talking and all for nothing. You have no truth in you, for the only fruit that comes out of your mouth is venom.
You who claimed you came to Christ with no faith, and because you did such a great deed, God saved you and gave you all you deserved, and also claimed that Jesus became the Son when He was born.
You do talk a lot but it is all just religious talk so others like you will think how great a person you are. The lost do not have the abilty to come out of the darkness by themselves, they love darkness rather then the light. It is the work of God that saves any individual. And Jesus has always been the Son. He never became the Son.
---Mark_V. on 9/23/13


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Hello,Let me say thankyou Bro.Bryan all respect -9/21/13
//"your going to hell if you don't believe inJesus.I do not get saved by the fear of hell I got saved by the love of God in Christ Jesus"//

Fear grip only for a moment.

Christ, His love- I did not know
NO love !

Never knew a love like this!

A whole NEW mind when you realize the Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 9/23/13


"Instead of telling them "your going to hell if you don't believe in Jesus. I do not get saved by the fear of hell I got saved by the love of God in Christ Jesus." Bryan

Were these the words of Christ who came to preach to the world? One will recall He made no qualms about saying, "I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish."

We're told, "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction." Proverbs 1:7

Show us where in the Scriptures the prophets, apostles or even Christ starts off, "Oh, I love you and want to save you but you must first belief me, please believe me", do show.
---christan on 9/22/13


\\You will know it is about the Death and resurrection of Our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ.\\

Then what is the Gospel of the Kingdom that Jesus preached? He didn't mention His own death and resurrection until towards the end of His ministry.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/21/13


It appears Markv you are twisting Bryan's words, as he just posted about the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ and has stated about Christ's redemptive work. So I' m not sure what your squawking about. I don't agree with all Bryan says, yet you are totally giving TheSeg high fives right and left, a universalist. That's as far from a Calvinist as you can get. So clean up your own act first Markv, before trying to clean up someone else's. Christan not only twisted Bryan's words, Christan, like yourself TWIST everyone's words who disagree with you two. Just like you did here with mine making a federal case out of thin air.

Now tell us again, your grand grand father was how old in 1835?
---kathr4453 on 9/21/13


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Markv, you wouldn't know the doctrine of the Cross if it smacked you over the head. No Calvinist does. So to make such a STUPID statement on a subject you know ZIP about to begin with, again reminds me of that saying....."fools rush in where angels dare to tread".

Since you believe you were re-birthed before BELIEVING proves you know ZIP about the cross.
---kathr4453 on 9/21/13


If you believe in the Gospel. You will know it is about the Death and resurrection of Our Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. Nonbeliever don't know that and what he has give us. Look up the meaning of the word SALVATION. Then you will see all that the Gospel has given us as believers. If you share those things with a nonbeliever like Jesus healed nonbelievers all the time, quicker than same believers. Instead of telling them "your going to hell if you don't believe in Jesus. I do not get saved by the fear of hell I got saved by the love of God in Christ Jesus.
---Bryan on 9/21/13


----God forces no one lost to love Him are come to Him. He makes them able to come to Him and love Him, we love Him because He first loved us------.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/13

Finally Markv, you admit you being once lost, were never forced to love Him or come to Him. We do love Him, because He first loved US. As in all lost, including you.

He showed that love at the Cross. And that is what we preach...for God so LOVED the world HE GAVE...and WHOSOEVER believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life And FAITH COMES by hearing this Gospel truth.

To AS MANY AS RECEIVE HIM, to them gave he the power to become the Sons of God....BORN OF GOD..aka BORN AGAIN, BORN FROM ABOVE.
---kathr4453 on 9/21/13


Kathr, you do a lot of preaching with no passage to support what you say or what you are talking about. You tell Bryan not to listen to Christan when he was correcting Bryan when he said the gospel was not about the cross. I remember you making a whole lot of statements about the Cross over and over and over, and now you defend someone who excludes the cross from the gospel. You compromise the Truth of God for a lie just to criticize Christan. You trample the Word of God every single day with your madness. You are a very twisted person. As I said, you are in complete darkness. There is no light in you.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/13


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Non believers don't get under my skin, are believe who only believe about ten percent of the word, ignorance is blizz even at the point of death. God said my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Well all knowledge is give to Jesus and Jesus lives in us as believers, So WHO SO EVER can turn to the truth. When they get the revelation Peter got from Jesus.
---Bryan on 9/21/13


Christ didn't come to preach His redemptive work. He came to demonstrate His Father's love for His people in the form of His redemptive work at Calvary.

It was prophesied in Isaiah 53:5, "But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon Him, and with His stripes we are healed."

Later to be confirmed in Matthew 1:21 of His coming mission, "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call His name Jesus: for He shall save His people from their sins."

Wasn't the prophesies fulfilled at Calvary, with Him saying, "It is finished."? Isn't His redemptive work the pinnacle of His ministry?
---christan on 9/21/13


Jesus taught not only the Gospel of the Kingdom, but also touched on the Gospel of Grace. John is the Gospel of Grace. Matthew is the Gospel of the Kingdom that is promised to Israel. John the Baptist did not baptize those into the Body of Christ, because there was NO BODY yet to baptize anyone into. Certainly they weren't being baptized into Jesus flesh. WE however are baptized into HIS DEATH. This is what Paul was given to preach concerning the Gospel of GRACE Yes, there is an overlapping of these Gospels. After the Church is Raptured THEN the fulfillment in Matthew 24-25, along with Romans 11 and Zechariah 12-14 and Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 36 and Isaiah concerning Israel the NATION.

The CHURCH however was KEPT SECRET but NOW revealed.
---kathr4453 on 9/21/13


Bryan, don't let Christan get under your skin. He likes to purposely not read what anyone says to DEBATE. He loves to accuse, and condemn and twist you words JUST SO he can do that, and then condemn for what was never said to begin with. They LEARN THIS TACTIC in Calvin school. This is not of GOD, but how satan works through his own to assault the believers in Christ.

And the funny part is, they actually believe NO ONE can see through their arrogance and antics, or that they are seen as one big joke. Only the blind can follow them into the ditch. Can you imagine spending your whole life trying to prove man has no free will? What a waste of life. But it's their free will choosing to waste it. What a waste.
---kathr4453 on 9/21/13


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michael e, you say Jesus didn't teach the gospel, and give us Luke 18:31-34 where Jesus taught it.

Kathr, election is not a gift. Election is the act of God electing certain individuals for His own. The gift is salvation, only those who believe by faith will receive it. God forces no one lost to love Him are come to Him. He makes them able to come to Him and love Him, we love Him because He first loved us. Read Eph. 2:4-10) "But God who is rich in mercy, "because of His great love with which He loved us" even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ by grace you are saved" (Eph. 4,5). Because He first loved us we love Him. We are saved by Grace through faith which is a gift.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/13


The vale has been tore apart there is no separation between God made man any more. All things are given. Those thing said in secret are reveled the hidden things sense the foundation of the earth "MARK chapter 4" are reveled to this generation. Jesus said, the prophets of old wished they could have the things that were given to this generation. bible look it up so you will have no execute for not believing.
---Bryan on 9/21/13


//And Scripture calls you a liar//
Luke 18:31 Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. 32 For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: 33 and they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. 34 And they understood NONE of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken
The original statement:
Jesus didn't teach his redemptive work on the cross for salvation DURING HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY. He taught the gospel of the coming kingdom (Mark 1:14-15).
---michael_e on 9/20/13


"What's certain is the gospel of the kingdom didn't require knowledge of the cross of Christ, not to mention understanding what it meant." michaele

And Scripture calls you a liar.

"And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, and to virtue knowledge, And to knowledge temperance, and to temperance patience, and to patience godliness, And to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness charity.

For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ."
2 Peter 1:5-8

So, you believe in Christ on what grounds since the cross matters not for you?
---christan on 9/20/13


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Salvation according to the kingdom gospel meant deliverance from unrighteous rulers all over the world. Gods people, and the faithful nations, would be ruled by Gods Messiah in obedient Israel.
What's certain is the gospel of the kingdom didn't require knowledge of the cross of Christ, not to mention understanding what it meant.
Luke 9:1-2 Jesus gave power to his disciples and sent them to preach the gospel of the kingdom of God.
Nine chapters later, Jesus tells the same disciples he must die,
And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken. Luke 18:34
The preaching of the gospel of the kingdom is without the preaching of the cross.
---michael_e on 9/20/13


the definition of a GIFT is to GIVE or past tense GAVE. it is God who GAVE His only Begotten Son. The GIFT then is offered by God the Father, that whosoever believes in Him shall have eternal life.

Those who receive this GIFT God Gave, that is Jesus Christ, receives the Gift of Righteousness through Jesus Christ. Romans 5.

There is NO SUCH THING as the GIFT OF ELECTION.
---kathr4453 on 9/20/13


The Gospel was sown into Paul by Steven. Who Paul had killed. What did Steven say before he die?
The Gospel is the most powerful thing on this earth. If it can take a murderer and turn them into one of the greatest apostle. It has not trouble turning a heart of STONE into a heart of flesh. It can being you spirit back to life. It will bring the rest of you to. If it is sown. Who gets saved and who does not get saved is not your concern. Your concern should be sowing the Gospel.
---Bryan on 9/20/13


Samuelbb7 - Deuteronomy 6:5 and Matthew 22:37 does not save you. It's only believing in the Lord Jesus Christ that saves the sinner from his sins. Deuteronomy 6:5 and Matthew 22:37 is merely the consequence of salvation, ie, the sinner will indeed love God with all his heart, soul and mind.


Bryan - no one is advocating you do not witness the Gospel to anyone and everyone, get that through your head. And the fact that God did not tell us specifically the names of His elect, we are to witness the Truth to everyone. But make no mistake, He has declared to us that He has already chosen those whom He will save. Only He knows who they are. Understood?
---christan on 9/20/13


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christan, just because Salvation is OFFERED TO ALL, doesn't mean ALL will receive the FREE GIFT of Salvation.

If it's forced on you, it's NOT A GIFT!
---kathr4453 on 9/20/13


The main rule give by GOD is from both the Old and New Testament.


Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.


Matt 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.


Lev 19:34 But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself, for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God. Luke 10:27
---Samuelbb7 on 9/19/13


bryan, spoken like a true believer in free will. I don't agree with some of the things you say because I know Jesus died for the whole world. We must call on the name of the Lord and be saved. God's Word is powerful and sharper than a two edged sword.
---shira4368 on 9/19/13


The Gospel come with power that is why you are suppose to share it. It is the only thing that sets the captive free. The power is in the word when it is sow if you don't sow it the power will be useless to you. Jesus said sow the Gospel. I'll been tell you this for two weeks. Read Mark Chapter 4. The first parable Jesus taught us. Understanding it is how the Gospel works. This is how to spread the power of God around the word. You call it a sermon? How do you know who is elect and who is chosen? Did God give you a list of who they are? You speak as though God gave you the names of who they are? What kind of Gospel as that only a few get in?
---Bryan on 9/20/13


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//Jesus didn't teach his redemptive work on the cross for salvation during his ministry on earth.//

michael

No, he talked about his death a lot. John 3:14, Luke 18:31. Matthew 13:52, Jesus is the man, we are the treasure, the field is the world.
---Scott1 on 9/20/13


Jesus didn't teach his redemptive work on the cross for salvation during his ministry on earth. He taught the gospel of the coming kingdom (Mark 1:14-15).
This gospel consisted of repentance from sin, doing the commandments, and seeking first the kingdom (Matt 5:19, 6:33). Although these ideas are recognized as good and Biblical ideas, none of them include faith in the redemptive work of Christ on the cross.
It was the message of the gospel of the kingdom that Jesus limited his ministry:
And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people. Matt 4:23
---michael_e on 9/19/13


"And it is give to us all. Not just to a few religious folks like you think. That is the Gospel. Freely give no rules just given." Bryan

Spoken like a true unbeliever!

Do you seriously think:
- that Christ's death at Calvary was a whimsical act by God?
- that He died for no reasons whatsoever?
- that His death was not because the law declares, "For the wages of sin is death"?
- that salvation to sinners did not come with a heavy price in the death of Christ?
- and if it was "given to all" as you have even suggested, there would be no one in hell, would there? Really? Go check it out and let us know if this is true. But I doubt you'll be able to return to report to us.
---christan on 9/19/13


Bryan, you say,
"According to your religion. That Gospel has not power" I don't believe any,"genuine believer" believes the gospel doesn't have power. It does have the power, but it does not come in power to everyone. In (1 Thess. 1:4,5) Paul tells the believers (the elect) (the called)
"Knowing, beloved brethren, your election by God. For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit with much assurance.." What that tells us is that it does come to some in word only, with no power or the Holy Spirit. Yet to all believers it is the power of God. He is sufficient to save everyone, but doesn't save everyone, only the elect of God who are called.
---Mark_V. on 9/19/13


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Just as I thought, Bryan. You wanted to preach a sermon disguised as a series of posts.

Glory to Jesus Christ!!
---Cluny on 9/19/13


According to your religion. That Gospel has not power. Philippians 4:13, 3 I have strength for all things in Christ Who empowers me [I am ready for anything and equal to anything through Him Who [a]infuses inner strength into me, I am [b]self-sufficient in Christs sufficiency]. John 10:10, 10 The thief comes only in order to steal and kill and destroy. "JESUS" I came that they may have and enjoy life, and have it in abundance (to the full, till it [a]overflows). If you have chosen Life then share it, don't put religious rules on it.
---Bryan on 9/19/13


You tell people If it's Gods' will. The New Testament is Gods' will for mankind. All of it. Not just the parts you believe in but from Matthew to Revelation. And it is give to us all. Not just to a few religious folks like you think. That is the Gospel. Freely give no rules just given. The only rules there is, an that is just a offer "choice life".
---Bryan on 9/19/13


Bryan, From your post, it seems to indicate that you really don't understand "Gospel"!
---1st_cliff on 9/18/13


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The Gospel is what has to be preached. The judgment of the Gospel is in it's self. Once you hear it you will either believe it or not. The Judgment part is that word is sow for life. If not used for life it will produce death. They don't need a judge they need the Gospel. Cause the angels in heaven are waiting to have a party over every sinner who repents. Me to.
---Bryan on 9/18/13


Bryan, .....
The only Good news Jesus was preaching was "The Kingdom" FYI
---1st_cliff on 9/17/13


Left out the "Not". Sorry.
Gospel has
"Not" been told to all Israel or Lord would be here.

Mat_10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.


---Trav on 9/18/13
---Trav on 9/18/13


Bryan, .....
The only Good news Jesus was preaching was "The Kingdom" FYI
---1st_cliff on 9/17/13

Gospel has been told to all Israel or Lord would be here.
Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations, and then shall the end come.

Amo_9:14 And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them, they shall plant vineyards, drink the wine thereof, they shall also make gardens, eat the fruit of them.

Mat_10:23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
---Trav on 9/18/13


\\Cluny Gospel, Maybe you will sow that into people lives other than how righteous you say you are\\

And where did you get the idea that YOU sowed the Gospel into people's lives instead of talking about how righteous you say you are?

I merely hold up a mirror here so people can see themselves. They think they are looking at me.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/17/13


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Bryan, Gospel simply means "good news"
How many types of "good news" are in scripture?
The only Good news Jesus was preaching was "The Kingdom" FYI
---1st_cliff on 9/17/13


Cluny Gospel, Maybe you will sow that into people lives other than how righteous you say you are. Cause God does not care about how righteous you think you are. He only wants us to sow his Gospel to set people free. That is his will, and anybody who has breath has that right. If they can't read, write, or spell they still have that right to the Gospel. Thank you Jesus.
---Bryan on 9/17/13


It is not used at all in the OT of the KJV, and 95 times in the NT, according to a quick search with Biblegateway.

But something tells me you were not merely seeking information, but are preparing to make a statement, if not preach a series of 125 word sermons.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/17/13


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