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Mankind From Adam Eve

Did all mankind come from Adam and Eve? I ask this to explore the origin of Cain's wife.

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Shira, why even speculate whether God made humans other than Adam and Eve? Even if they were created they play no part in God's plan of redemption from Adam to Jesus. And they are not mentioned anywhere in Scripture.

1 Corinthians 15:45 The first man Adam became a living being, the last Adam became a life-giving spirit." Adam was the first man created and there is no mention of any others.

Genesis 3:20. "The man called his wifes name Eve, because she was the mother of all living."

There is no room for another line of humans. Better to stick to what God has written, as all we need is there.
---Warwick on 10/19/13


david, the sons of God and the daughters of men is a picture of the saved marrying the unsaved. they are unequally yoked. when the sons of God mingle with the daughters of men, there is always a disaster.
---shira4368 on 10/19/13


Warwick
As you are aware, I am 100% sure the daughters of men came from those created on the 6th day.

Since you do not believe this, who do you think the daughters of men are, if they are not the Sons of God who lived in Eden?
---David on 10/19/13


God said adam and eve were the first humans. we don't know if He created others are not.
---shira4368 on 10/19/13


David, as Adam married and had children with Eve who was genetically even closer than a sister, I can see no reason why their sons could not marry their sisters, as it was necessary, and there was no genetic or legal reason not to do so. After all Adam and Eve were made physically perfect and it wasn't until c1800 years later that fall-related genetic problems caused God to then forbid marriage between close relatives. Abraham married his half-sister without any negative comment from God.

I am sure you are correct that God's commands are for our good.
---Warwick on 10/18/13




Warwick
You make a good point that I hadn't considered, It wasn't as if Adam and Eve came from two different families that had defects.

And I don't necessarily think God forbade incest as an evil practice, but more for the health of mankind.
For example, There are many things God forbade us to eat. God didn't do this just because he is God, but because the things he forbids us to eat are bad for us.

BTW, the holy spirit only taught me what I said on 10/8. I'm still on the fence about where the men in Eden, who came after Adam, got their wives.
---David on 10/18/13


Strongax, Thanks for the question.
I gave my spectulation on my other post about murder.
(God took action against the murder Cain committed. Yet, God did not require his life as was required by the law later.)


---Elder on 10/17/13


Elder:

You said: Cain and his sister could not have committed incest for two reasons.
First there was no such sin then.


I'm curious how you define the origins of the definitions of sin then? Being written down in the Law of Moses, perhaps? If that was the case, what about murder? Cain clearly sinned when killing Abel, even though murder had never been proscribed at that point either.
---StrongAxe on 10/17/13


Cain and his sister could not have committed incest for two reasons.
First there was no such sin then.
Second, God had not issued any law on the matter yet and took no action against it.
God took action against the murder Cain committed. Yet, God did not require his life as was required by the law later.
When the law came then there was the knowledge and action of sin.
---Elder on 10/17/13


\\I just wanted to point out that even someone who is uneducated knows that relations between a brother and sister from the same mother and father will create mutations.\\

Actually, it is LESS likely to create mutations.

Glory to Jesus Christ!

However, if BOTH have recessive genes for an undesirable trait, this will more likely show up in the offspring.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/17/13




David, you have not understood what I wrote. Let me give a simple example: male baldness (called male pattern baldness) this is passed down through the mother to sons. This means a mutation (a copying error) causing baldness occurred in the distant past at the time of fertilization. Such mutations are part of the fall as mutations were not there at the beginning when Adam and Eve were made perfect-Deuteronomy 32:4. You consider brother/sister sexual relations have always been incest but this is not so as Adam and Eve were of the one flesh, closer even than brother and sister, genetically.

Question: Did they also commit incest?

We are not discussing what occurs with animals or humans today, but the situation at the beginning.
---Warwick on 10/17/13


David, geneticists are not above God's word but they show His word is true.

You wrote " relations between a brother and sister...will create mutations." Incorrect. Genetic faults are copying errors passed on by parents therefore their male and female children will receive the same genetic fault/s and certainly pass on such fault/s if incest occurs. It is not that their incestuous relations will create genetic faults but that they will pass them on. A child gets 1/2 its genetic information from the mother and 1/2 from the father. Therefore if both have the same corrupted genetic information, at the same point, there is no good information there to be selected over the corrupted.
---Warwick on 10/17/13


Warwick
You accused me of ducking your question. What about the question I gave you on 10/12?
With your story of creation, (everyone came from Adam and Eve), Where did the daughters of men come from in (Genesis 6:4)?
---David on 10/17/13


Mark V, we have to do something with the blood that Jesus shed. "Whosoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood, has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood, dwells in me and I in him." John 6:53-63. We have to saturate ourselves in the Word of God. His Word cleanses us. John 15:3.

Those born of the Holy Spirit will keep the commandments of God and abide in the testimony of Jesus. To believe otherwise you would have to completely ignore Rev 12:17, Rev. 14:12, Rev. 22:14-17 and Matt 19:17-19.
---barb on 10/17/13


barb, you are now arguing that Jesus sacrifice does not wash away the sins of those who believe in Him?
"For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins" (Matt. 26:28).
Then say:
"I agree that those who do the will of God will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Matt 7:21. They will enter because they have kept the commandments of God and held to the testimony of Jesus (Rev 12:17, Rev 14:12)." No barb, they enter because they are born of the Spirit.
"Jesus answered, Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and Spirit he cannot enter the kingdom of God." our works does not get us into heaven, God's grace does.
---Mark_V. on 10/17/13


Warwick
I never claimed to be an expert on genetics. I just wanted to point out that even someone who is uneducated knows that relations between a brother and sister from the same mother and father will create mutations.

But apparently with your knowledge of genetics, you don't believe this. Perhaps if you went to a farmer who raises animals and asked him about this he could convince you.
I didn't know there were geneticist's that shared your views on incest. Perhaps I should have researched their science a bit more before using them as a source of information.
---David on 10/17/13


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Mark V, please give the verse where Jesus says that He washes us clean with His blood. That is not what Rev. 7:14 says, "These are they which came out of great tribulation and AND HAVE WASHED THEIR ROBES AND MADE THEM WHITE in the blood of the Lamb.

I agree that those who do the will of God will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Matt 7:21. They will enter because they have kept the commandments of God and held to the testimony of Jesus (Rev 12:17, Rev 14:12). Keeping the commandments and abding in the words of Jesus IS God's will unless you can show me where Jesus said otherwise.
---barb on 10/16/13


David, as you refuse to answer I will answer for you: If we were to go back 2000yrs we would find less mutations in the human genome.

Mutations are copying errors which occur at the time of fertilization, and accrue. There was a time when there were none. Today mankind suffers from c3,500 genetic diseases/conditions and the number is increasing.

Back to Adam and family. Man was created physically perfect (Deuteronomy 32:4) therefore without mutations and there was not time for them to have accrued to any dangerous level. Therefore brother and sister could then produce offspring without problem. When it became a problem God forbade close relationship marriage.
---Warwick on 10/16/13


barb, you first say to me,
"Mark V, do you think Jesus died for our sins so that we can just keep on sinning? John 15:22-24." Who said He died so that we could keep on sinning? Not me. Then say""He provided the blood with which we are to wash ourselves and to anyone who would listen He gave the Truth." He washes us with His blood. Then say,
" Jesus died to pay the death penalty for those of us who do the will of His Father. Matt 7:21." that is not true. He died to pay the penalty of those who could not keep the law perfect. Matt 7:21 is saying that only those who do the will of His Father will enter heaven.
---Mark_V. on 10/16/13


Warwick
Ok. lets hear your truth, I say less to your question.

Just because you believe something, that doesn't make it the truth.
As I pointed out, Jesus gave us the truth in (John 14:21) and you still believe Gods love is unconditional. If that makes what you teach the truth, what does that make Jesus?
---David on 10/16/13


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David, I have twice asked you this question but you have twice ducked it. I believe you have little understanding of genetics and therefore why brother/sister should not produce offspring.

Answer my question and it will lead us to the truth.

"If we were able to hop in a time machine and go back 2,000 years, would we see more or less mutations in the human genome?"
---Warwick on 10/15/13


Mark V, do you think Jesus died for our sins so that we can just keep on sinning? John 15:22-24. His life was an example for us to follow. Matt 10:38. He provided the blood with which we are to wash ourselves and to anyone who would listen He gave the Truth. His blood cleanses us and His Word sanctifies us but we have to live according to His rules.

Jesus died to pay the death penalty for those of us who do the will of His Father. Matt 7:21. Sin will be kicked out of His Kingdom and cast into the fire and righteouness shall shine forth. Matt 13:41-43.
---barb on 10/15/13


Samuel, great passages you gave. What is your point? And to whom are you addressing? Or are you just reminding others those passages are there? Thanks

In answer to the blog question, yes, all human beings come from Adam and Eve. Anything else is only speculation. While they might be great idea's they are not in Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 10/15/13


Warwick
As I said, if the line of Seth began as you believe, man would have died out after a few generations.

Let me ask you, If your daughter was having your sons child, and you were at the hospital waiting for the delivery, would you be happily anticipating the birth, or would you be worried that the child would be born with a defect?

If you were worried, what would cause you to worry?
---David on 10/15/13


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Mat 25:37-46
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? ...Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed,...
For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.... Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.... but the righteous into life eternal.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/14/13


barb, now in speaking for the works of man you say,
"The bride has "made herself ready", God did not do it for her. Rev. 19:7-8. She "has washed her robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb". Rev 7:9-17. She did it herself, it wasn't done for her."
barb, you cannot possible believe that the self works of those in washed robes was done by themselves or do you? The blood of the Lamb cleaned them robes. Without the blood of the lamb their robes would be duty. In fact they would not even be there in the first place. Or that the bride cleance's herself. You are given the credit to man and not God. Again I say, what good is Jesus dying for their sins, if they can clean themselves of sin?
---Mark_V. on 10/14/13


David, see my blog 13/10 and please answer the question:

Now the question: If we were able to hop in a time machine and go back 2,000 years, would we see more or less mutations in the human genome?
---Warwick on 10/14/13


Trav, you wrote that "yom" used in O.T. does not always mean 24hrs." Who disagrees? However as Scripture and Biblical dictionaries show "yom" (day) used with a cardinal or ordinal number (e.g. 1 , 1st) means 24hr day. Genesis 1:3-5 "....And there was evening and there was morning, the first day."

Compare this "first day" with "the first day" of Numbers 7:12 and you will see that "the first day" of Genesis 1:5 defines what "the first day" of Numbers 7:12 was, an evening and morning 24hr day. And in the Middle East today the next day begins at "evening" exactly as in Genesis. If you disagree please do so via Scripture or Biblical dictionary.
---Warwick on 10/14/13


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Mark V, God sent His Son to pay the death penalty for His Kingdom. Those in His Kingdom will be keeping the Commandments of God and abiding in the words of Jesus. Rev. 12:17, John 8:31-32.

The bride has "made herself ready", God did not do it for her. Rev. 19:7-8. She "has washed her robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb". Rev 7:9-17. She did it herself, it wasn't done for her.

Keeping the commandments alone will not save us, we must also learn the Truth from the words of Jesus so that we can abide in and practice them until we are sanctified thru the Truth. John 17:17.





---barb on 10/14/13


barb, so you believe we are saved by our own works, and not the works of Christ? It seems that is what you are saying when you quote,
"God doesn't save everyone because everyone does not keep His commandments and abide in the testimony of His Son." So He only saves those who do the laws of God by exercising their own free will? Why then would God send His Son to die for our sins? If man can be saved by keeping the law?
---Mark_V. on 10/14/13


I tell you this because many are led by their doctrines, and because of this, they become blind to the Truth.
---David on 10/13/13

Like your attitude David. You stated "become" blind. I think they start blind. There is freedom from doctrinal preacher types and opinions in scripture. Freedom is found through scriptural witnesses 2+. Most preachery types get angry with these witnesses testimony. GOD would not give Adams linage of Israel a book and not provide witnesses. Found in Prophets, Apostles and our Lord himself. Rarely provided by doctrinals.
Gen_6:2 That the sons of God saw ....
Deu_32:8 .... separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
---Trav on 10/13/13


When we read Genesis 1 and 2 very slowly and carefully we can see that there are two separate creations.

---barb on 10/8/13

Slowly and carefully. Nice choice of words.

A consistent trend through Rev.
Deu_32:8 .....when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Heb_8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, write them in their hearts: I will be to them a God,they shall be to me a people:
---Trav on 10/13/13


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David, genetics is not my speciality but I have studied it and have geneticists to whom I can turn to for clarification. Assuming you want this point to be settled I believe I can do that. In the current human genome a serious problem exists, called 'Mutational Load.' Simply this refers to mutations having increased in number over time. If you should have a certain deleterious mutation (and almost all are deleterious) then it is quite likely your sister has the same genetic fault. Therefore should you have a child the chance of it being seriously deformed or incapacitated is high.

Now the question: If we were able to hop in a time machine and go back 2,000 years, would we see more or less mutations in the human genome?
---Warwick on 10/13/13


David, you made a lot of statements that you think I believe which are not true. If you want to discuss Scripture, give the passages, then the argument, this way I can answer to the passage, not just a lot of opinions. I do not always agree with everyone. It matters not who the person is, if I believe he is wrong, I will answer with Scripture. When you talk about dogs breeding, you are on the wrong subject since dogs are not mentioned in Genesis. We are talking about God and human beings.
---Mark_V. on 10/13/13


Warwick
I said before that you do not believe what Jesus says in (John 14:21).
The protestant church teaches that Gods love is Unconditional.
In (John14:21), Jesus disagrees with that teaching.

Just because you disagree with someone, that doesn't make them a false teacher.
I tell you this because many are led by their doctrines, and because of this, they become blind to the Truth.
---David on 10/13/13


Warwick & Mark
Any geneticist will tell you that your belief that man came from an incestuous beginning is impossible. Because mankind wouldn't have lasted more than a few generations.

Better yet, Go to a dog breeder and ask them what happens when pups from the same litter have puppies together.
---David on 10/12/13


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Warwick
Of course you think Mark is right, you both believe God is ever changing. What he called Evil (incest) after the flood you think God called Good before the flood.

God created the world, and then he created a place in the world, called Eden. I didn't say he recreated the world when he created Adam.

From the dust of the ground in Eden he created Adam, and he created a garden there for Adam to live.

Mark and Warwick
With your stories of creation, where did the daughters of men come from in (Genesis 6:4)?
---David on 10/12/13


David, Mark is correct.

You are not going with what Scripture says, nor reasoning upon what is written, but coming up with ideas that are not even mentioned. In Genesis 1:27 God simply says He created man in His own image, both male and female.

Genesis Ch.2 is man-centered, recapping the creation of the man and woman, providing details not provided in Ch.1. It is not another creation account as it doesn't mention the creation of the earth, sun, moon, stars, seas, land, sky, sea creatures, creeping creatures etc. And it is not mentioned anywhere in Scripture. Jesus and the apostles referred to or quoted from the first 11 chapters of Genesis 107 times and never even hinted at a second creation.
---Warwick on 10/11/13


David, you are speculating when you say:
"In (Genesis 1) it says God created both male and female on the 6th day.
In (Genesis 2) it says Adam was created and then later on, Eve. "(Looks as though many days had passed before Eve was created)"
It looks to you as if days went by, which is your own opinion. Nothing to say it was days later, or the same day. Then you say,
"The female created in (Genesis 1) did not come from the male, as Eve came from Adam." How do you know that? More speculation. The passages does not say that she did not come from Adam. You just assume she didn't. You need to stop speculating. In order to come to a conclusion you add to Scripture what is not there.
---Mark_V. on 10/11/13


David, God judges us on the Words of His Son. We either believe what His Son taught or not. Jesus' Word is His testimony. John 12:44-50. God's judgement will separate the sheep from goats and the wheat from the tares.

God doesn't save everyone because everyone does not keep His commandments and abide in the testimony of His Son. Rev. 12:17, Rev. 14:12, Rev. 22 14-15, Matt 5:18-19. Jesus died for His Kingdom and those saved will keep the rules of His Kingdom.
---barb on 10/11/13


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Warwick
In (Genesis 1) it says God created both male and female on the 6th day.
In (Genesis 2) it says Adam was created and then later on, Eve. (Looks as though many days had passed before Eve was created)

The female created in (Genesis 1) did not come from the male, as Eve came from Adam.

Marriage is when male and female come together as husband and wife, and become one. Adam and Eve were created as one, those created in (Genesis 1) were not.

We, like those created in (Genesis 1), need to marry to become one, because our wives don't come from our ribs as Eve came from Adam.
---David on 10/11/13


Did all mankind come from Adam and Eve?

That's what the Bible says. Of course, if you don't believe the Bible ......





---jerry6593 on 10/11/13


David, you say,
" Satan is evil and Satan turned Gods creation against him." Wrong, mankind is fallen because of Adam's disobedience. Adam was not deceived by Satan. For his disobedience, God cursed all mankind. Then say,
"When God says I created evil, he is referring to Satan, who obviously was not created in Gods image." That is all speculation. I find no passage that states what you said. If there is one please put it down. Gen. 2:9) God clearly states that out of the ground He formed the tree of life, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And from what tree did Adam eat? from the tree of knowledge of good and evil that God formed.
---Mark_V. on 10/11/13


David you say I disagree with John 14:21 "Whoever has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me. And he who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I will love him and manifest myself to him." You claim, I disagree with this, how so? Please enlighten me.
---Warwick on 10/10/13


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Honestly David I am not sure what you mean. Your writing style is sometimes obscure to me. You wrote "Do you think that Jesus may have combined Genesis 1 in Genesis 2 in the manner in which you suggest, to tell us that all mankind, both male and female were created as Adam and Eve? If this doesn't mean what I wrote, what does it mean? Please explain.
---Warwick on 10/10/13


Warwick
Where did I say God created multiple Adams and multiple Eves?

Just because something I say disagrees with your beliefs, that doesn't make it a false teaching.

Just because you don't agree with what Jesus said in (John 14:21). Does that make Jesus a false teacher?
---David on 10/10/13


Barb
You make a very good point, If man was created in Gods image, how could man be evil? God did not create man to be evil. Satan is evil and Satan turned Gods creation against him.

When God says I created evil, he is referring to Satan, who obviously was not created in Gods image.

Satan turned not only Gods creation against him, but also 1/3 of the angels in heaven. Job lived before the flood and in that story we can see how hard Satan worked to turn man against God.

Because of the war in heaven, God uses the evil Satan brought into the world, to judge us.
Barb, why do you think God needs to judge us? Why doesn't he just save us all?
---David on 10/10/13


David, as what you write is contradicted by Scripture, may I respectfully suggest it is not the Holy Spirit who informs you.

The Mormons have many nonBiblical beliefs through which the reinterpret Scripture. Some of them are similar to what you write.
---Warwick on 10/9/13


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David, you do not read what was written. Was God's commandment against marrying a close relative (even a sister) in force at the time of Adam and Eve? No it wasn't therefore there was no crime. To make it simpler: if there was no stop sign at a corner are you legally obliged to stop? Have you broken any law if you do not stop?
---Warwick on 10/9/13


David, God created His first people in His own image, blessed them and called them good. Gen 1:26-28, Gen 1:31. So if God creates evil people and then blesses them and calls them good, what are we to do? Isaiah 5:20.

Did God create Satan and the fallen angels? Are they the evil created by God? Jesus called Satan a murderer from the beginning and a liar. John 8:44.
---barb on 10/9/13


Warwick
You claim, that our never changing God in heaven, at one time condoned incest. And this is how you explain creation.
I have shown you your contraction with the Bible, now show me mine.
---David on 10/9/13


Barb
Many people bristle at the thought of God creating evil, but God tells us that in (Isaiah 45:7).
Good and evil are the standards by which we shall be judged. If there was no evil, God would be unable to judge us.

Warwick
I am of no denomination. I am taught only by the Lords Holy Spirit.
Do the Mormons really teach this about creation???
---David on 10/9/13


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David, what you write is contradicted by Scripture therefore you did not get your ideas there. Are you Mormon?
---Warwick on 10/8/13


The purpose of the time, David, was to produce people to replenish the earth.

By the time Leviticus came, God had people on the earth, and He was concerned about all people loving each other. So, it could have been counterproductive, then, to have guys marrying only sisters so people were not learning to love various people outside their immediate families.
---willie_c: on 10/8/13


David, I mostly agree with you except when you say that God created evil people. God created the first men and women in His image and called His creation good. They were not created evil but were led astray by Satan who had them convinced that he was their creator and god.

When we read Genesis 1 and 2 very slowly and carefully we can see that there are two separate creations.

I believe Adam was created to teach the nations about God but first Adam had to be tested, unfortunately he failed the test and so God sent His Son to reconcile the world back to Himself.
---barb on 10/8/13


\\david, the son's of God are the saved people and the daughters of men are the unsaved.\\

But there was no one saved at this point, because the Lord Christ had not yet come.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/8/13


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david, the son's of God are the saved people and the daughters of men are the unsaved. I have had much interest in this subject and I have heard two versions. we know angels are nether male or female.
---shira4368 on 10/8/13


Warwick
My contention is God created Adam to be his own, and put him in the Garden of Eden. Adams descendants were the sons of God which we read about in (Genesis 6:4).

The daughters of men in (Genesis 6:4) were from the males and females God created on the 6th day.

When God says he created both good and evil, he is referring to the creation of men on the 6th day(evil), and Adam whom he placed in Eden(Good).

God flooded the earth when good mixed with evil,(having children with the daughters of men.)
I believe the animals placed on the Ark were those animals which were created for Adam and this is why no one born after the flood ever saw the Dinosaur.
---David on 10/8/13


David, I just read your post again and I think I followed it this time. I cannot see how Scripture can be read to say that there were many Adams and many Eves. I think it clear Adam was an individual man and that just one Eve was made from his side. I do not believe Satan tested a group of Eves all made from the group Adam's flesh and bone, who all ate the same fruit. Nor do I believe there were a group of Adams who all succumbed to all their wives who each gave them the fruit to eat. As well as that Scripture says Eve (singular) is the mother of all living, and Adam is called the first man again singular.
---Warwick on 10/8/13


David: Cain must have married 1 of his own sisters. Bible do not record the female offsprings except something spectacular happened to them.
---Adetunji on 10/8/13


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David I am not sure what your question is. However Jesus' words as recorded in Mark 10: 5-9 tell me that He was talking about the basis of Christian marriage. And that Adam and Eve were real people who were originally one flesh and that in marrying we also become one flesh with our partners. I imagine this is the basis of 1 Corinthians 6:16.

Jesus words also place Adam and Eve's creation at the beginning of the creation in which we live i.e. on day 6 of creation week, not after eon's as some Christians believe.

There is so much for us in these few words of His.
---Warwick on 10/7/13


Warwick
Interesting Bible verses. Do you think that Jesus may have combined Genesis 1 in Genesis 2 in the manner in which you suggest, to tell us that all mankind, both male and female were created as Adam and Eve?

I believe that Jesus is telling us that in the beginning of mankind, men received their wife just as Adam did.
---David on 10/7/13


David: It's only incest when God says it is. Prior to Lev. 20:17, God put no marital restrictions on relationships between siblings.
---Leon on 10/7/13


David, Adam married Eve who was genetically closer even than a sister, flesh of his flesh. And it was not incest. The law on incest was not introduced until c1800 years later when the genetic degeneration of mankind, (part of the fall/curse brought about by Adam's sin) had reached a stage when close relationship marriages risked severe problems for the offspring) therefore the new law was a reaction to reality. Conversely no such problem was in existence in the time of Adam and his children/grandchildren so brother/sister marriages were not a physical problem, or illegal.
---Warwick on 10/7/13


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What does the Bible say?
Adam and Eve were the only people that God created. All others were born from those created.
The Bible does not give a genealogy record of all born. It does teach that every thing comes after its own kind. There was not a pre-adamic race for Adam was created in the beginning.
If there had been a pre-adamic race they would still have been alive because it was Adam's sin that brought death.
So, it is simple, Cain married a close relative, maybe his sister. Someone had to.
---Elder on 10/7/13


David, the Creator made the rules. The rules at Creation were later changed because, by then, incest would have been creating imperfect people and there was no longer a need for it once the earth had a much larger population and people were then far more remotely related to each other.

In the beginning there was only Adam and Eve and then their own offspring. These were NOT imperfect people - their genes were pure and creating another generation with each other had no genetic problems. ALSO, there were NO OTHER people for them to reproduce with.

Until God said it was wrong incest was NOT wrong, after that IT WAS.
---Rita_H on 10/7/13


So what you're all saying is that God promoted incest in the beginning? Might want to look at (Leviticus 20:17)?

And since Noah came from Adam and Eve, and we all came from Noah, all men born after the flood did come from Adam and Eve.
---David on 10/7/13


David, Genesis 1 & 2 are not two conflicting versions of creation. In fact as recorded in Matthew 19: 4-6, and Mark 10:5-9 Jesus combines Genesis 1:27 and 2:24 to say man was made at the beginning of creation and that Adam and Eve became one flesh. No suggestion there that He the Creator thought they were two conflicting versions of creation.

Genesis Ch. 1 covers the creation of everything, chronologically.

Genesis Ch.2 is man-centered, recapping the creation of the man and woman, providing details not provided in Ch.1. It is not another creation account as it doesn't mention the creation of the earth, sun, moon, stars, seas, land, sky, sea creatures, creeping creatures etc.

I hope that helps.
---Warwick on 10/7/13


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"Have you ever noticed the sequence of creation in (Genesis 1) & (Genesis 2)? Noticed in (Genesis 2), Adam was created before the animals, and the men created in (Genesis 1) were created after the animals." David

The only thing noticeable to your comment is: what a load of rubbish!
---christan on 10/6/13


"Mrs. Cain might have been from a pre-Adamic race[?]...then again, [she] could have been a...daughter of Adam & Eve...Any possible answer would at this point be mere speculation[?]...it's not a matter I stay up late...worrying about.
Glory to Jesus Christ!"
---Cluny on 10/6/13


Yet more Cluny pomposity. Is there any end to it?!

Yes David, all of huemanity (to include Cain's wife) came from Adam & Eve. That's what the Bible says. Reference Scripture passages Josef gave.
---Leon on 10/6/13


Have you ever noticed the sequence of creation in (Genesis 1) & (Genesis 2)?
Noticed in (Genesis 2), Adam was created before the animals, and the men created in (Genesis 1) were created after the animals.
---David on 10/6/13


I don't believe there was ever a 'pre-Adamic race' and believe that teaching is 100% unscriptural.

God did not give an order for humans to not marry brothers and sisters until the population of the earth had increased substantially. Until He said they must look further afield for a mate there was nothing wrong with Cain marrying a sister. Just because sisters are not named does not mean they were not there.
---Rita_H on 10/6/13


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God formed Our bodies from the dust of the ground. The only ones we know about are Adam & Eve. and two of there boys Cain and Abel. They may have had more children before Cain and some before Abel. That is one we will know when we get to heaven.
---Bryan on 10/6/13


I think it quite simple. The OT and NT only mention Adam and Eve, she being the mother of all living Genesis 3:20. And he the first man Adam 1 Corinthians 15:45,47. Scripture does not mention, nor allow for any pre-Adamic race.
---Warwick on 10/6/13


Mrs. Cain might have been from a pre-Adamic race.

And then again, Mrs. Cain could have been a later daughter of Adam and Eve, whom Cain did not meet and marry until some 20 years later. The Bible doesn't say that he found his wife immediately after killing Abel, does it?

Any possible answer would at this point be mere speculation. We may not be able to find the real answer until the next world, and then we may not care.

In either case, it's not a matter I stay up late and night worrying about.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/6/13


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