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When Did New Testament Start

When did the New Testament begin?

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Samuel, it is great we agree again brother. There is great people that taught on both sides. We know that in their hearts they believed what they taught was right otherwise they wouldn't have taught so many other good things. In this life in the flesh we will never all agree, in the Spirit we are all perfect in Christ. Agape to you also.
---Luke on 3/13/14


The difference is the interpretation of what is written in the Bible. One looks at the Bible from God's point of view, the other from men's point of view. There is believers on both sides.
Many great brothers come from both sides.
Luke

I agree great brothers come from both sides. Also in the two sides issue there is some truth.

I will drop it there.

Agape.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/12/14


"Nana, are these the words of a bird with broken wings?"
---kathr4453 on 3/9/14

They are indeed.
---Nana on 3/12/14


So Luke, in reading those bird droppings, are you saying you are a Calvinist?

It's fine if you say you are. What isn't fine is changing your name to Luke.
---kathr4453 on 3/12/14


Salvation is by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. It is God having mercy on the sinners who deserve only death

"for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously commited," Romans 3:23-25.

The God centered view that readers use to understand the Bible is for the purpose of giving God the glory.
The man's centered view use in studying the Bible is to give man the glory.
You can pick a side.
---Luke on 3/12/14




Luke, I don't mind getting in arguments with anyone, if that argument stands for something. People need to stand for something, with conviction without fear. You make it sound like anyone standing up for their beliefs is a bad thing. We all should be prepared in season and out to give a reason for the Hope within in.

Ok, I'll give you a pass that you simply don't know that there ARE actually millions who are neither Calvin or Arminian. And they/ we read scripture from God's point of view too, but we don't see Calvinism.

So it's possible your comment was skewed and formed by personal opinion.

We'll be observing those bird droppings you make along the way.
---kathr4453 on 3/12/14


We are saved thru the Blood of Jesus. Not of works lest any man should boast. you can say u believe of this or that but if you don't believe Christ died for you all is Is in vain.
---shira4368 on 3/11/14


Kathr, I rather not answer you because I do not want to get into arguments with you, as you have with others for long periods of time on different blogs. I will pass on this one. Someone else might be able to answer your questions.
---Luke on 3/11/14


The problem with your comment Luke, is saying , according to you, that man can be saved according to his own point of view. Well then everyone with a point of view no matter what is a Christian. I see all scripture from God's point of view, because all scripture is written from God's point of view, not mans to begin with.

So Luke, why did the labels of Calvinism and Arminians even come up here? What about those who are neither?
---kathr4453 on 3/9/14


One looks at the Bible from God's point of view, the other from men's point of view. There is believers on both sides.
Many great brothers come from both sides.
---Luke on 3/8/14

Nana, are these the words of a bird with broken wings?
---kathr4453 on 3/9/14




Samuel, the whole Bible is written for the Church. The Bible can only be known by those who are in Christ. It does not mean everything in the Bible applies to everyone. It means only they can understand the Truth in it.
Calvinist believe in the Bible just as Arminian's do. The difference is the interpretation of what is written in the Bible. One looks at the Bible from God's point of view, the other from men's point of view. There is believers on both sides.
Many great brothers come from both sides.
---Luke on 3/8/14


It is said the four Gospels portray Jesus as He is.
Matthew-Jesus the King
Mark-Jesus the Servant
Luke-Jesus the Man
John-Jesus the God
Just a God is both Just and Merciful, Jesus is both King and Servant, both Man and God.
---micha9344 on 3/6/14


//Is the four Gospels written for the Church?//
Of course not. Matt.10:5, 15:24, Rom 15:8 is plain who Jesus was dealing with in His earthly ministry. The circumcision is Israel, with 12 tribes, not the Church which is one body.
---michael_e on 3/6/14


Well Luke I am glad we have found agreement here.

This goes along with the site. Is the four Gospels written for the Church? Some Calvinists and Dispensationalists say no.

What do you think?
---Samuelbb7 on 3/6/14


//But my point is if a person says and thinks they are a believer but does not really live in JESUS. Then they are not believers just fooling themselves.//

Your point is a great point, and very true. The question is whether Jesus is Lord of their lives or not. If we follow Christ, we should be taking up our cross daily. Good fruits should be showing, bad fruits should be something the believers hate, they should hate sin. The Spirit changes us daily to be more Christ like. It is a spiritual work of the Spirit in a believers heart and mind.
---Luke on 3/6/14


Well Luke you are correct. I agree with what you wrote about the two judgments.

But my point is if a person says and thinks they are a believer but does not really live in JESUS. Then they are not believers just fooling themselves.


Mat 7:22

Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Which is why we should:


2Cr 13:5

Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith, prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?
---Samuelbb7 on 3/5/14


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Samuel, Jesus will judge the Christian at the Judgment Seat of Christ, where all believers will go for their rewards. Because there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ. No condemnation from the law. The bad things they did while in Christ will be burned.
Jesus will judge all unbelievers at the Great White Throne of judgment for breaking the law. They are condemned already, but will appear for their sentence. They will be judge righteously.
---Luke on 3/5/14


Rom 7:1 Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ,
Rom 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held,
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
law:thou shalt not
of sin: murder, lie, steal, covet, etc -Exo 16
and death: thou shalt be put to death -Exo 21
---micha9344 on 3/3/14


Samuel, what Jesus did for the believers is a spiritual act. What is written is written, meaning it is still there. Jesus actions for the believers are,
A. Spiritual circumcision without hands.
B. raised from death to life is also spiritual.
C. Our sins forgiven is also spiritual.
D. The written handwriting of requirements against us was done away with is also a spiritual act. Luke

All this is true. The rest is part true and part false. I cannot judge anyone. JESUS can. The 7th day Sabbath is a memorial of Creation and points to heaven.

Our sins is what is against us. Not the law.

Rom 7:12

Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/3/14


Samuel, what Jesus did for the believers is a spiritual act. What is written is written, meaning it is still there. Jesus actions for the believers are,
A. Spiritual circumcision without hands.
B. raised from death to life is also spiritual.
C. Our sins forgiven is also spiritual.
D. The written handwriting of requirements against us was done away with is also a spiritual act.
E. Nailing them to the cross is also a spiritual act done by His death for the believer.
F. He disarmed principalities and powers against us is also a spiritual act for the believers.
No one can now judge us believers on food or in drink or regarding festivals or a new moon or Sabbaths keeping which were a shadow of things to come (v. 2:16).
---Luke on 3/3/14


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Here we go again, same thing on a different day. Can't stay away, could you?
---Nana on 2/28/14


Luke you are misquoting the passage.


Col 2:14-17

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross,

Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.

First how is saying no other GOD to worship but GOD against us? Read all the Ten commandments tell me how they are a shadow of things to come and against us?

Our sins which is breaking these laws are against us. Read Romans 3:31
---Samuelbb7 on 2/28/14


trey, what you said makes a lot of sense. Without the explanations of Paul, a believer cannot understand many statements Jesus made. In Matthew 5:10-20 Jesus is speaking of believers in the kingdom of heaven. No believer should ever teach anyone to be disobedient to God. He shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven. Christ was indicating that He is the fulfillment of the law in all its aspects. He fulfilled the moral law by keeping it perfectly. He fulfilled the ceremonial law by being the embodiment of everything the law's type s and symbols pointed to. Paul explains the actions of Christ in Colossians 2:11-19 which speaks of Jesus wiping out the handwriting of requirements.
---Luke on 2/28/14


Thanks Trey. Here is what I see.

Revelation is an end time prophecy given by God to Jesus who passed it on to John thru His angel to give to His bondservants. Rev 1:1.

Rev. 11 cannot be a history as we see in verse 15 that the Kingdoms of this world have become the Kingdoms of God, who rules forever and ever. This has not happened yet and if verse 19 had happened it would be written down in the history books.

However, Rev 12 is a history of the birth and resurrection of Jesus with a view of the future in verse 17 where we see the remnant of the woman who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus.

---barb on 2/28/14


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barb, against my better judgement, I will try to give you a brief answer.

First of all the book of the Revelation of Christ was written by the Apostle John to give encouragement and not fear to the early Christians. The real point of the book is the revealing of Christ, his glory and his victory!

Rev 11-13 is a historical account of the tribulation that God's true church would face from Rome and the Catholic church. Chapter 12, the woman represents God's true church. The child is Christ. The great dragon is the Heathen Roman Empire. The seven heads are seven mountains. The ten horns are thought to signify the ten provinces belonging to the Roman empire, the governors of which ruled like ten kings. etc.
---trey on 2/27/14


Rod4Him, I am not suggesting anything. God gave the commandments to Moses to give to the people in Exodus 20:1-17. They are straight forward and easy to read. The 4th commandment tells us to remember the Sabbath and keep it Holy. It is a day of rest, not a day of work. It is your choice to keep them or not.

If the commandments of God are impossible to keep then why didn't Jesus say so?

The Scribes and Pharisees were making the commandments a burden for the people rather than the covenant of love and blessing that God spoke. Matt 23:1-39, Matt 15:1-9.
---barb on 2/27/14


I would like to answer each individual point. But I am short of time right now.

Fulfilled does not mean done away with. Read the chapter.

The argument is made the Ten commandments all are done away with. But how many here think we can worship other gods, take His name in vain, worship idols, disrespect our parents, lie, steal, commit adultery, murder and covet and think that it is not only a good thing but that to keep these laws looses you your salivation?

Think about it, that is what you are saying. Read the Sermons of John Wesley, Calvin and Martin Luther on the Ten Commandments and the Church. For you are saying all these men are lost since they taught the Ten Commandments are for the Church.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/27/14


//...but that does not mean that no one can keep them.//

Which Laws do you suggest are to be kept? It is impossible to keep the Law now. Do you cook on Sabbat, "go outside the camp" to go to the restroom? Do you keep the feasts and on the correct days?

I am sympathetic to some of your views (that doesn't mean I believe them), however, to repeat, the Law cannot be kept. That is the reason for the Mishna and Talmud, the Rabbis were trying to come up with rules because they couldn't keep the Law.
---Rod4Him on 2/27/14


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Trey, as a Follower of Jesus I know that the His teachings are true. Matt 5:19 "Whosoever shall break one of these least commandments and teach men so, he shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whosover shall DO and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven". Now read Matt 13:41.

If the old testament (Law and prophets) was finished in 70 AD then can you explain Rev. 11:18-19?

A heretic? Matt 5:10-11. They said worse things about Jesus. John 8:48-59.
---barb on 2/27/14


As Christians we should know that Christ came to fulfill the Law. If we believe that Christ fulfilled the law we should understand that his death ushered in the New Testament.
We see Rome's destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD as the exclamation point that the Old Testament was finished.

Paul tells us in Hebrews 9:17 that Christ death marked the end.

By the way, I will just say it: If you do not believe the Apostle Paul to be a true Apostle you are a heritic!
---trey on 2/26/14


Is it really necessary to PROVE that "PERFECT" law is different than WHAT CAME BEFORE IT?...DUH!! (you know...before and AFTER).

1 Corinthians chap. 13 "when the perfect comes,...." (ya know).

hey "Christianity"...THINK!
---faithforfaith on 2/26/14


//...you neglect to actually prove that the Law of Liberty is not the Ten Commandments to Christians.//

There is no way that the Law of Liberty is the Law or the Ten Commandments. The Law is death. Compare life before the Law, and life after the Law. Even Moses died outside the Land. The Law brought death.
---Rod4Him on 2/26/14


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Micha9344, the covenant is the same. The difference is in the place where it is written. No longer in stone but in the mind and heart. It is exactly the same covenant that God told Israel they would keep if they love Him even unto a thousand generations. Duet 7:9-12.

Jere 31:34 is what would have happened if Israel had kept the commandments and taught them by word and example to their neighbours. They failed to keep the commandments but that does not mean that no one can keep them. 1st John 5:1-21.
---barb on 2/26/14


Gal 3:23-24 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster [to bring us] unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
-This is the Decalogue.
My earlier post also quoted:
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
-This is the law of liberty which frees us from the law of sin and death engraved in stone.
I don't think I can make it any clearer. You will have to rely on the Holy Spirit for understanding.
Acts 28:24-27 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not....
---micha9344 on 2/26/14


Well that is a opinion you offer but you neglect to actually prove that the Law of Liberty is not the Ten Commandments to Christians.

Yes their job is to show Death to sinners who are breaking the law. But James who quotes part of the law of Liberty quotes from the Ten Commandments. Yes for Christians they are Liberty from sin.

So instead of just assuming you are correct actually find verses that agree with your conclusions and fit with all scripture. Explain why you say so.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 2/26/14


"The new covenant is the same covenant as the old one. The difference is...Jer 31:31-33."-barb on 2/26/14
First of all, they cannot be the same and different at the same time. They are either the same or not the same. And I can understand your wrestling with Paul's letters since you do not believe him to be of God.
Also, Jer 31:31-33 breeds new understanding with context.
Notice the next verse.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
---micha9344 on 2/26/14


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Did God call His Law "a law of sin and death"? No, He said that those who walk in His commandments would live and multiply and be blessed in the land. Duet 30:15-16. What would happen to those who choose not to obey and keep His commandments? Duet 30:17-20.

Did Jesus do away with God's commandments? No, Jesus said that they would not pass away until Heaven and Earth passed away. Matt 5:18. He said that to gain eternal life one must keep the commandments. Matt 19:17. Jesus kept His Father's commandments as an example for us to follow.

The new covenant is the same covenant as the old one. The difference is that it is not written on stone for us to read but in our hearts and in our minds. Jer 31:31-33.
---barb on 2/26/14


//The law of liberty cannot be a reference to the Decalogue, the "law of sin and death",...//

Excellent observation!!
---Rod4Him on 2/25/14


James speaks of the royal law in v8 and references it in v12 as the "law of liberty."
The law of liberty cannot be a reference to the Decalogue, the "law of sin and death", under which Israel was put as a sign.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
2Cr 3:7-8 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance, which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
---micha9344 on 2/24/14


When James speaks of the perfect law of liberty he mentions some of that law.


Jam 2:11,12

For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

Take some time read Exodus 20 the Ten Commandments. Then point out why they should be disobeyed.

I agree the New Testament time period begins with the Death and Resurrection of JESUS. But the entire New Testament is written to the church. The Old testament is also for the Church. 2tim 3
---Samuelbb7 on 2/24/14


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Personally, I like to look at the Bible as one whole story of redemption without a break between what we know as the testaments.
---Rod4Him on 2/24/14


The New Testament covenant began when Jesus was crucified. At the cross, Jesus shed blood AND ALSO WATER ("This is He who came by water and blood" (1 John 5:8?). The water is representative of the "LIVING WATER" we need in order to hear and learn from God's eternal Spirit.

The passage in 1 John continues on to explain that God's Spirit does NOT AGREE with the "BLOOD ONLY" (the MESSIAHSHIP ONLY). The Spiriot agrees with the WATER and the blood (the Jews of Revelation only had TWO witnesses).

Hbr 7:19 for the law made nothing perfect).

We must live THE PERFECT LAW (not the IMPERFECT one).

1Cr 13:10 when the perfect comes, the imperfect will pass away.

James 1:25 LAW OF LIBERTY.
---faithforfaith on 2/19/14


The old IMPERFECT law was the one about SIN.

The PERFECT LAW (LAW OF LIBERTY) is the NEW LAW (it is for JESUS worshipers who are SPIRIT-FILLED).

The IMPERFECT was IMPERFECT ("when the perfect comes, the imperfect shall pass away").

IF a person seeks "CIRCUMCISION" (the old word for "sanctification"), then they must "keep" the "PRECEPTS" of the law (peace, truth, etc.).

The old law was IMPERFECT ("imperfect" is what Jesus abolished).
---faithforfaith on 2/15/14


True Trav We are under the New Covenant.


Rom 3:31

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

The Ten Commandments deal with love of GOD and love of our fellow human beings. But they are just the start. Love goes beyond not doing wrong but doing right.


Rom 13:10

Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.


Tools specific to Gal 5:14

Gal 5:14

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

To say the Ten Commandments are not for Christians is like saying love is not for Christians.
---Samuelbb7 on 12/27/13


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to redeem them that were under the law, this law would include what you call the 10 commandments.
If we are still under the 10 commandments,then we are saved by works not by faith.
---mike on 12/25/13

Consider the other laws. Israel is redeemed "from under the law". They are now under a different covenant.

The Law of marriage said the husband must be dead for the wife to be freed from the marriage. Israel...both houses were freed by the death of Christ.
Read beginning of Eze 16.
Eze 16:60 Nevertheless I will remember my covenant with thee in the days of thy youth, and I will establish unto thee an everlasting covenant.
1Co_7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth, ...
---Trav on 12/26/13


to redeem them that were under the law, this law would include what you call the 10 commandments.
If we are still under the 10 commandments,then we are saved by works not by faith.
mike

Not exactly. We are under Grace. But being under grace does not allow us to break the Ten Commandments or any other sin.

Rom 6:14,15
For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.

The New Testament was written after Pentecost. The Church and New Testament started on Pentecost the anniversary of the giving of the Ten Commandments. All scripture is for the church. 2Tim3:16
---Samuelbb7 on 12/26/13


to redeem them that were under the law, this law would include what you call the 10 commandments.
If we are still under the 10 commandments,then we are saved by works not by faith.
---mike on 12/25/13


Trav, thank you. Gal 4:5 Hes talking about the ceremonial laws that He abolished at the cross.
---janz on 11/6/13

Gal 4:5 To redeem them that were under the law....
The only nations under the law was Israel.
The entire house. 10 of which we find divorced/put away under the law. Judah and Benjamin were not divorced.
The New Covenant frees both Houses of Israel. In sacrifice and widowhood by the law of marriage. Ref Rom_7:3..... but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law, so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.

Jer_3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce,....
---Trav on 11/6/13


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The ideology of JESUS is love GOD and love they neighbor.


Lev 19:34

But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself, for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God.


Tools specific to Deu 6:5

Deu 6:5

And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

The Teachings of JESUS is that we are to follow what is written in scripture. Remember we are to live by every word GOD gave us.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/6/13


Trav, thank you. Gal 4:5 Hes talking about the ceremonial laws that He abolished at the cross.
---janz on 11/6/13


\\Hardly. It's YOU who do conform to the ideology of Jesus, not I.\\

Make that:

Hardly. It's YOU who do NOT conform to the ideology of Jesus, not I.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/5/13


The New Testament started at the death of Christ we should all know that.When He became the Lamb of God,Sacrifice for our sins.
---janz on 11/4/13

Testament of a New Covenant.

Heb_8:8 .... I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Gal_4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Psa_130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
Zec_10:8 I will hiss for them, and gather them, for I have redeemed them: they shall increase as they have increased.
Luk_1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
---Trav on 11/5/13


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\\Gee, thanks, Cluny. I'll would venture to say that you would say the same thing to Jesus if he were on these blogs because he would not conform to your ideology.
---Steveng on 11/4/13\\

Hardly. It's YOU who do conform to the ideology of Jesus, not I.

You didn't think you did, did you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/4/13


Cluny: "You don't think that you know either the Scriptures or the power of God, do you, Steveng?

Are you THAT confused?"

Gee, thanks, Cluny. I'll would venture to say that you would say the same thing to Jesus if he were on these blogs because he would not conform to your ideology.
---Steveng on 11/4/13


The New Testament started at the death of Christ we should all know that.When He became the Lamb of God,Sacrifice for our sins. Ceremonial things vanished and Christ atones for our sins. No more animal killings. Christ is the New Testament. Everything thereafter points to His 2nd coming.
---janz on 11/4/13


James_L yes there is a big difference between testament and testimony. The question specified testament and that is what I answered. The question was rather nebulous but my answer covered the range of possible answers.
---Blogger9211 on 11/2/13


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\\Jesus said, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God."

And what scriptures was Jesus referring to since the New Testament wasn't written yet?\\

You don't think that you know either the Scriptures or the power of God, do you, Steveng?

Are you THAT confused?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/2/13


"And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,.."

And what scriptures was being used since the New Testament wasn't written yet?

"...[the Bereans] received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

And what scriptures were the Bereans using since the New Testament wasn't written yet?

Jesus said, "Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God."

And what scriptures was Jesus referring to since the New Testament wasn't written yet?
---Steveng on 11/1/13


\\If you are a genuine christian you would have already known the answer since the Holy Spirit would have revealed it to you just as Peter knew the heart of Ananias.
---Steveng on 10/31/13\\

Why would the Holy Spirit have revealed it?

It's not necessary for my salvation to have had it done so.

I'm a Christian, NOT clairvoyant.

However, so far, my question has not been answered.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/1/13


Self-elected travelers will also have you confuse "testament" as used in Hebrews with the Old and New Testaments of the Bible.
They are not the same things.
---Cluny on 10/31/13

But, ole contrary/knowledgeable one...you didn't enlighten us by scripture.

Heb_9:15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Hmmmmm. ("redemption ... that were under the first testament")
Jer_31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
---Trav on 11/1/13


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The beginning of the NT is found in Deut 30:1-9, where God promises he will have compassion on them (30:3)gather them together from among the nations (30:3-5)allow them to dwell in the promised land (30:3-5)circumcise their heart so they can obey the commandments (30:6-8)
This testament would provide for the redemption of the nation Israel and institute what was needed to begin Gods strategy for blessing the kindreds of the earth through their priesthood (Gen 12:3, 22:18, Acts 3:25).
What Israel failed to accomplish on their own under the old covenant, God would provide for them under the new.
---michael_e on 10/31/13


I agree that it started at the Death of JESUS. But it was the day of Pentecost when the Gospel began to go out to the world.

But the entire New Testament is written to the church since the Gospels were written by the Apostles after the Death and Resurrection of JESUS.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/31/13


Cluny: "Are you the Rober7995 who asked the same question back in July of this year?"

Why did you ask such a question? Are you trying to entrap that person? If you are a genuine christian you would have already known the answer since the Holy Spirit would have revealed it to you just as Peter knew the heart of Ananias.
---Steveng on 10/31/13


\\(Self elected preachies won't want you to dwell on following)\\

Self-elected travelers will also have you confuse "testament" as used in Hebrews with the Old and New Testaments of the Bible.

They are not the same things.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/31/13


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When the Word became flesh...
---christan on 10/31/13


Are you the Rober7995 who asked the same question back in July of this year?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/31/13


When did the New Testament begin?
Robert
---Robert on 10/29/13

(Self elected preachies won't want you to dwell on following)

Heb_9:15 for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
Heb_9:16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
Heb_9:17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
Heb 8:8 ... Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
---Trav on 10/31/13


Bro. Willi, I really enjoyed what you wrote down. It was very well down and explained very well. It was very good. Great answers from you and Trey.
---Mark_V. on 10/31/13


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The New Testament is the Everlasting Covenant. It began before the foundation of the world, but was not made manifest until the time of Christ.

Heb13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,
Heb13:21 Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
---trey on 10/30/13


Maybe this answer will help.

Just as the OT starts with God acting to create heaven and earth, so the NT begins with God taking the initiative to REcreate them.

Just as the OT (in English Bibles) ends "with a curse," so the NT ends with a blessing: "Come, Lord Jesus!"

However, if you're wondering which book of the NT was first written down, I've heard it was 1 Corinthians in 54 or thereabout. (Not that this matters.) The books of the NT are NOT arranged in the chronological order of their composition. (OT, too, for that matter.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/30/13


Read the first chapter of Mark.
---Steveng on 10/30/13


blogger9211,
there is a big difference between testament and testimony. The New Testament (covenant) began when Jesus died. But the testimony began, orally, when He was born. Of course, some could argue that the testimony began in the garden of Eden
---James_L on 10/30/13


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As Cluny said, much is dependent upon what you mean by New Testament written accounts or oral accounts. Oral accounts would be passed on by word of mouth while Christ was still alive during his ministry period.
Some of the first letters that St. Paul wrote were circulated between Paul's early Churches would be the the written documents. Thomas's collections of statements that Christ said would also be among the early written documents though they are not included in the New Testament. Specific parables such as the Sower. The earliest Gospel would be Peters account recorded my Mark.
---Blogger9211 on 10/30/13


The New Testament began in our Father's heart, before the foundation of the world. In His heart He "predestined" us "to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren." (in Romans 8:29)

Our Father so loved and enjoyed His Son Jesus, that He desired to have many children who are like Jesus. And His love in us changes us to become pleasing like Jesus . . . "in this world" > "Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment, because as He is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4:17)
---willie_c: on 10/30/13


Your question is ambiguous. The answer depends on exactly what you mean by it.

Can you elaborate, please?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/29/13


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