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What Is A Prophet

What is a prophet and who decides that He or She is a prophet of God?

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Elder, TheSeg is more consumed with outer space, aliens, WHO built the pyramids, some comet or something in the news, so yes, as he force feeds himself "TWINKIES" all the day we see "diminished capacity" in real time here right before our eyes.

When trying to feed the little fella some baby peas and carrots to get some solid nutritional food into him so he can GROW up and start eating MEAT, we see, he would rather mimick ( like all children do) his "super hero's". He has no real PARENT to guide him up into maturity. He likes being a street thug, like his mentors.
---kathr4453 on 11/12/13


Just because you have never done anything for the Lord or let Him use you doesn't mean someone else hasn't. Maybe, just maybe being arrogant is better than being lazy and/or not caring about others.
Arrogant Elder

Luk_10:19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Luk_10:20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you, but rather rejoice, (because your names are written in heaven.)

Joh_5:30 (I can of mine own self do nothing:) as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just, because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
Peace
---TheSeg on 11/12/13


Elder, again, you cannot even discuss Scripture with anyone. Don't even debate any subject yet resort to insults as always. Here you tell the Seg he is:
"Just because you have never done anything for the Lord or let Him use you doesn't mean someone else hasn't." How can you possibly accuse the Seg of never doing anything for the Lord? You don't even know him and insult him.
Then you insinuate his arrogant,
"Maybe, just maybe being arrogant is better than being lazy and/or not caring about others." Another insult to someone you don't even know. You are a piece of work alright. What I was surprise was that you did not bring his family into the picture.
Why don't you try discussing the Word of God?
---Mark_V. on 11/12/13


"(I have) Arrogant!
Mat_10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you!"
TheSeg

Just because you have never done anything for the Lord or let Him use you doesn't mean someone else hasn't.

Maybe, just maybe being arrogant is better than being lazy and/or not caring about others.
---Elder on 11/11/13


35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?

36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:

37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:

38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.


42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption:

43 It is sown in dishonour, it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power:

44 It is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/13




Continued--

49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, ((neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.)). In other words, our old man is not rebirthed-For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory? --------But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/13


I/m sorry christen, but satan will burn for an eternity in the lake of fire. and your false doctrine teaching that the soul and spirit are extinguished once and for all is A BIG FAT LIE. "WHERE THE WORM never dies" CHRISTAN.

AND ANGELS DON'T EXPERIENCE A "second death". So get your facts straight.

Every time you open your mouth you only spew out more ignorance all can see proving you are a false teacher. GOOD.

Just keep spewing out your nonsense with your serpent tongue.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/13


I'm sorry! Most every one of you believes they all died again, right!
Aside from the fact: Heb_9:27 you only die once, then the judgment!

Or that Christ himself said: Luk_7:22 the dead are raised!
It's not just you, but many just can't believe it!
So how are you going to believe something like Mat_27:52-53:
And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, and came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
Or Luk_23:43 Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.

You write things like "the dead in Christ"
If the dead in Christ (are in Christ) and Christ is in heaven!
Where are these dead? Mat_19:26,Mar_10:27,Luk_18:27
Peace
---TheSeg on 11/11/13


Meaning, it's God (he) who's going to destroy satan (him) with death! Get it? I don't think you do at all.

---christan on 11/9/13

I believe christan can't keep up with his own nonsense. He claims Hebrews 2 states that Jesus did not conquer DEATH through the cross.

That is not what Hebrews 2 is referring to. But this confusion is all their own, seeing they have NO CLUE why Jesus was even made flesh, so He could die for OUR SIN.

Christan that verse does not say SATAN took on the seed of Abraham. it tells us WHY Jesus did.

we're talking about JESUS and the cross, not Satan at the end of the age. Death THROUGH CHRIST is conquered TODAY!
---kathr4453 on 11/11/13


Elijah was not raised but he never died. Moses according to Jude was raised and they both meet with JESUS on the Mount.

In the New Testament the saints are raised with JESUS.

Mat 27:52,53
And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

The Bible does not say exactly what happened to them. But many speculate that among them are those who make the 24 elders now in Heaven.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/11/13




Markv, your argument is not with ME, but TheSeg .

So wake up and pay attention. that is exactly what I said, that TheSeg is babbling on and on about who on earth knows what.

I am really beginning to wonder about TheSeg. Does he even KNOW what this conversation is about? Someone needs to go in and rescue him out of the "Twilight Zone" he's stuck in.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/13


One claims to be a "knowledgeable Christian" but yet make comments like, "If God wanted to destroy satan WITH death I'm sure He could with the blast of His breath." And you're a Christian?

I'm sure God would and could if He wanted to. But what good will that do to His sovereignty if He doesn't demonstrate this destruction right before our eyes as He will be doing on judgement day together with the reprobates?

Remember what He told Pharaoh? "For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth."

Haven't you learn anything?
---christan on 11/11/13


No one in the OT has been raised from the dead and given "glorified" bodies.
kathr
Joh_11:40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
Instead of saying "no one has", say "I can't believe it!" because i can't see it!

You never read?
Mat 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Mat_23:15 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
---TheSeg on 11/11/13


Kathr, no one in the New Testament has been given glorified bodies either. That happens at the Second Coming of Christ. But all those born of the Spirit, are already risen in Christ spiritually through His death. It is a spiritual resurrection, the physical body has not been redeemed yet. When it is, all those born of God will receive our glorified bodies.
---Mark_V. on 11/11/13


1 Corinthians 15:20-23, But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the first fruits of those who have fallen asleep. For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. But each in his own turn: Christ the first fruits, then when he comes, those who belong to Him. Paul is of course echoing what Christ had already said in John 5:28-29, Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear this voice and come outthose who have done good will rise to live, and those who have done evil will rise to be condemned.

No one in the OT has been raised from the dead and given "glorified" bodies.
---kathr4453 on 11/10/13


Meaning, it's God (he) who's going to destroy satan (him) with death! Get it? I don't think you do at all.
---christan on 11/9/13

Why would Jesus need to take on the seed of Abraham to destroy satan WITH death. Wierd as all get out. If God wanted to destroy satan WITH death I'm sure He could with the blast of His breath. No incarnation, being made flesh, that is , being made lower than the angels would /could never/never destroy satan WITH death.

Plus angels can't die.

No, it's just as scripture states, Jesus death and resurrection has robbed satan of his power of death over the lost.

Let's preach the gospel and turn people from Satan TO GOD so that they can now receive LIFE through Jesus resurrection.
---kathr4453 on 11/10/13


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TheSeg, does not scripture say Jesus is the first born from the dead.
kathr

Did not God say!
Mat_3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, (This is my beloved Son,) in whom I am well pleased.
Clearly he is the first born of the Father!

Joh_11:25-26 Jesus said unto her, (I am the resurrection,) and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
Are you saying Christ didnt resurrect the dead?

//Did YOU miss the first resurrection TheSeg?//
Luk_23:28 But Jesus turning unto them said, Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children.
Peace
---TheSeg on 11/10/13


TheSeg, does not scripture say Jesus is the first born from the dead.

You are saying a resurrection has already occurred? When where, scripture please.

Blessed are those who have part of the FIRST resurrection, against such the second death has no power.

Did YOU miss the first resurrection TheSeg? Paul said even then a false group was going around sating the resurrection had already happened, overthrowing the faith of many. Are you guys still around?
---kathr4453 on 11/10/13


You are absolutely correct Markv, man no matter how perfect they keep the law, as Paul said of himself, blameless, is but DUNG compared to the righteousness of Christ, by Faith in Christ. Then Paul goes on to say! that I may KNOW HIM, and the fellowship of His sufferings, and the POWER of HIS RESURRECTION, FIRST BY BEING MADE CONFORMABLE TO HIS DEATH.

Yes, Markv, it appears you have indeed missed the mark, and have tried to save yourself by clinging to JACOB, and not Jesus Christ.

Calvin claimed he was regenerated at his infant baptism, so I guess he can thank his parents for his salvation. Or thank his parents he was born RCC. Poor soul. He found the gnostic Augustine's works very tickling to his ears.
---kathr4453 on 11/10/13


Heb_2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, (he also himself likewise took part) of the same, that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil,

If Christ had to die to ("destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil!") How was it possible for Christ to resurrect the dead, before he died? If he didn't have the power, clearly someone here is very confused!

Heb_2:15 And deliver (them who through fear of death) were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
Some can only wonder, who this is talking about. It's those who are confused!

Satan has power? Laughable!
Get it straight, Rom_13:1 "no power but of God"
Peace
---TheSeg on 11/9/13


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Kathr, you say,
"Markv, Jesus spoke, we don't need you to speak." Jesus did speak but you were not listening, He said concerning salvation
"With men this is impossible, but with God all things are possible" Why didn't you hear? because hearing the Word of God comes from God, "For faith comes from hearing, "and hearing by the Word of God"
Then say,
"you want to rule our lives, and believe you have some sort of God given authority to rule others lives"
I have no authority to rule, God rules the lives of every single person. He has the authority to change your heart or not. You cannot change your own heart, remember, Salvation with men is impossible.
---Mark_V. on 11/10/13


1 Corinthians 15:25-27
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.

26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under Him.

Also revelation says death and hades will be thrown into the lake of fire.

So it really must be a BIG JOKE to you both..the Seg and Christan that Jesus died and SUFFERED for YOUso that YOU could LIVE , you think was some big joke God was playing with Himself and his paper puppets.

The only thing created here is your Frankenstein god out of your sick imaginations.
---kathr4453 on 11/10/13


If one's theory is right that "Jesus death and resurrection destroyed that power satan had over man" - why is death still around?

When Christ resurrected, He CONQUERED "Death". Hence, His elect will have eternal life in Him through faith.

Satan will be the first to be thrown into hell, way before "death"! "Death" is a created spiritual entity by God to deal with sin.

"Death" will only be destroyed come judgement day says the Scriptures - "The last enemy that will be destroyed is death." 1 Corinthians 15:26, "Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Revelation 20:14
---christan on 11/10/13


Hebrews 2:14 - 16 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he (CHRIST) also himself likewise took part of the same, that through death he ( CHRIST) might destroy him (satan) that had the power of death, that is, the devil,.And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.For verily he took not on him the nature of angels, but he CHRIST took on him the seed of Abraham.

Jesus death and resurrection destroyed that power satan had over man. satan was DEFEATED AT the cross, to those who's faith is in Jesus death and resurrection life. THIS Christan is the GOOD NEWS. (Read ACTS again,)
---kathr4453 on 11/9/13


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I have also spoke to those on death row and convinced them with the Word of God that they were sinners in God's sight.
Elder

(I have) Arrogant!
Mat_10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you!


No scripture says God CREATED death. Death, like darkness is the absense of God. That's why the only hope of LIFE is in the RESURRECTED Christ.
kathr

Gen_2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof (thou shalt surely die!)

Joh_1:5 And the light shineth in darkness, and the darkness comprehended it not!
Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.
Peace
---TheSeg on 11/9/13


Jesus work in the cross conquered death, hell and the grave.
---shira4368 on 11/9/13


In context to "death", it came about in the garden because of Adam's disobedience to God. All the serpent did was to deceive the woman into thinking "...you will be like God, knowing good and evil" and that brought about death.

"death" in retrospect is God's wrath acting out in His hate for sin and to think that satan is in control of death is to say God doesn't have control of the things He created. Is that even true?

Pharaoh was a representation of a type of satan and what did God declared?

"For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth."
---christan on 11/9/13


Hebrews 2:14 says Satan has the power of death? My goodness, so much for your understanding of the English language.

Let's digest Hebrew 2:14 in context. The verse presented reads, "that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil"

How does satan who has "the power of death" as you claimed, destroy himself, who's himself the devil? By committing suicide? Again, "that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death" - notice there's a "he" and "him" as subjects?

Meaning, it's God (he) who's going to destroy satan (him) with death! Get it? I don't think you do at all.
---christan on 11/9/13


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Christan, where did I get that from...HEBREWS 2. Didn't that post? You think I just made that up.

Oh my gosh, what on earth are you?

You again just called God a LIAR and His word a lie. And you think YOU know more than God? What evil comes out of you? Just plain evil comes out of you Christan.

Read the HOLY BIBLE Christan.

No wonder you believe some fairy re-birthed you, and have NO CLUE what the gospel is to begin with.

I know the TRUTH flies in the face of your false doctrine, and THAT makes you angry. So spit, cuss, or whatever.

Now you have no cloak to hide under. You will be JUDGED by "every" Word of God.
---kathr4453 on 11/9/13


Christan, do you believe this or not?

Hebrews 2:14 - 16 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same, that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil,.And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.For verily he took not on him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham.


Just in case you missed it on the other blog you hissed at.

No scripture says God CREATED death. Death, like darkness is the absense of God. That's why the only hope of LIFE is in the RESURRECTED Christ.
---kathr4453 on 11/9/13


"Ever heard the judge saying, you have sinned against God?"
christan

Your comment shows your experience is shallow just like your doctrine and alter ego "Mark."

I have heard a Judge say those very words more than once. I have also spoke to those on death row and convinced them with the Word of God that they were sinners in God's sight.

Mr. Joe Lewis Wise was executed shortly after I sat in the floor in front of his cell and explained this fact to him.

What would you tell a multi-murderer to convince him he was a sinner? Do you even have an idea? Does God really work with your life for Him?

Or, does all of your knowledge come from those little books your origination gives you?

---Elder on 11/9/13


I do speak of God for God, and that is the one thing you just hate. Most of you hate that. -.
---Mark_V. on 11/9/13

Markv, Jesus spoke , we don't need you to speak. You want to rule our lives, and believe you have some sort of God given authority to rule others lives? God never gave you any such authority. Calvin made the same mistake. Look at all the murders he committed in the mane os self appointed authority he felt was given him to RULE over others.

Scripture clearly says, NOT lording over others! but to be an example.

You are the worse example of a Christan there is. Stop standing in the way of sinners, and sitting in the seat of the scornful. Get down off your thrown and don't make the same mistake satan made.
---kathr4453 on 11/9/13


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MarkV,

As for decreasing the Kingdom of God to such a small number that only you and a few others you consider worthy enough to be with you can dwell there, what can I say? Maybe it's just not small enough. Maybe it might be better for all of us if you only select yourself to live eternally in God's new earth.

As for me ridiculing you, I think you're quite capable of doing that all by yourself.
---Marc on 11/9/13


"SATAN HAS THE POWER OF DEATH"? Really? Wow! Where did you get that from? Most definitely not from me or the Bible. Is satan really that powerful as compared to God?

Did satan say:
- "...for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Genesis 2:17
- "The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." Proverbs 16:4

Who do you think created "death"? God or satan? How does a creature even create anything? Isn't satan a creature and God, the Almighty creator?

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:14 - confirm Proverbs 16:4.
---christan on 11/9/13


\\What is the purpose of the Prophet? What is the purpose of the Evangelists? What is the purpose of the Pastor? What is the purpose of the Teacher? What is the Purpose of the Apostle?\\

And what is the purpose of your posts, Bryan?

You don't think you're any of these, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/9/13


Marc, again you show up just to try to ridicule me. It only show the salvation you have through your own free will. It shows in many others. Here you say:
"Well, according to MarkV, he reckons he's one.

I guess MarkV just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I must be a prophet of God because my theology is correct and I speak for God because my theology is correct"."


No Marc, I never even once thought I was a prophet. Did you not read what I wrote? There is no more prophets. I do speak of God for God, and that is the one thing you just hate. Most of you hate that. You don't want God to rule your life, which only means that you are carnal, for the carnal mind is at enmity against God.
---Mark_V. on 11/9/13


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No Christan, the TRUE Gospel you spit on is, Satan has the POWER of death!, Hebrews 2 and Christ death and resurrection life BREAKS the power of death, Hebrews 2 .PERIOD. END of your nonsense.

Acts confirms GOD sent Paul and the others to preach the Gospel that turns SINNERS from the Power of Satan to God, forgiving sin, and so much more. This gospel is LIVING and POWERFUL. This gospel is the one you scoff at! and mock at every turn.

Yea...THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS.

Christan, why do you HATE this Good news.
Is it possible the Good news is BAD news for your papa. Think about it. REALLY think about it.
---kathr4453 on 11/9/13


Present the "true gospel" like the one you spew daily here? I rather present what the Bible says about mankind which you seem to have a problem with. Does God speak kind words about mankind?

"God forbid: yea, let God be true, but EVERY MAN A LIAR, as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable, there is none that doeth good, no, not one."
Romans 3:4,10-12

Ya, continue with your "true gospel", I stick with the Word of God.
---christan on 11/8/13


Well, according to MarkV, he reckons he's one.

I guess MarkV just woke up one day and said, "Hey, I must be a prophet of God because my theology is correct and I speak for God because my theology is correct". Or something very much like that.
---Marc on 11/8/13


christan, are you saying this is YOUR experience? Tell us how many people you have said this to. Names, dates and their personal reaction.

I know for a FACT when one shows a sinner that breaking any of teh 10 commandments is sin against God and that God gave His Son as the ONLY way of Forgiveness against those sins God clearly named as SIN, there is not ALWAYS that response you claim everyone has.

But I see from your own words you have never personally encountered one. UNLESS of coarse you failed to give the 2nd half of the program....FORGIVENESS.

And seeing what you believe, I can guarantee you did not present the true Gospel of GOOD NEWS! How do I know??????.....because your reply back was UTTER ARROGANCE!
---kathr4453 on 11/8/13


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Yeah right, go tell an unregenerate that they have sinned against God and listen to what they will have to say to you, especially when they don't even believe in God.

Have anyone ever heard in a high court where the judge tells the perpetrator or criminal that what they have done wrong is an act of sin against God? That they should repent toward God and seek for His mercy? Well, have you?

They don't even acknowledge what they have done wrong is sin. They just call it a crime against humanity. Ever heard the judge saying, you have sinned against God?

So much for your theory that they have knowledge of what sin is. You keep dreaming.
---christan on 11/8/13


First of all, one doesn't need a prophet to be telling you that stealing and lying is wrong. Even a fifth grade child and an unregenerate sinner will tell you it is so.


---christan on 11/7/13

Someone better read their own words, unless WRONG means something other than SIN.
Are you redefining words and definitions AGAIN Christan?
---kathr4453 on 11/8/13


Samuel, what you said about E.G.White is very ridiculous. You claim because she told a pastor to get down because he had two wives made her a prophet. What if she just had spiritual discernment? What if someone had talked to her and told her? There is many gossipers in Church. You have no clue the people she talked to in her time. Only what someone wrote about her. You claim also God told her. How can you authenticate what you said? Are we to believe that Mohammad was a prophet, he also claimed God talked to him, and how about Charles Russell who claimed the world was going to end several times, and never did?
Jim Jones prophesy came true, they all died.
---Mark_V. on 11/8/13


Who said a fifth grader and an unregenerate soul acknowledges that lying and stealing is a sin? Was sin even mentioned? One had better read carefully what one reads instead of adding to what is not said.

Point is, acknowledging that lying and stealing is wrong by the world does not constitute to one not being deprave and void of the knowledge of God. An unregenerate soul will never ever acknowledge they have sinned against God. Never at all.

What they'll acknowledge at most is lying and stealing is wrong against their fellow man. That's why I said, you don't need a prophet to tell you that. Open your eyes!
---christan on 11/8/13


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What is the purpose of the Prophet? What is the purpose of the Evangelists? What is the purpose of the Pastor? What is the purpose of the Teacher? What is the Purpose of the Apostle? God has a reason for all five of them. It is not hard to find either if you look for it. Ephesians 4:12.
---Bryan on 11/7/13


Actually Deut 18 tells how to recognize a false prophet. If you read the books of the prophets very little is about telling the future. John the Baptist spoke on repentance and sin and almost no future prophecy.

Sister White walked into a church and walked up aisle and told the Pastor to get down he had two wives.

No one had told her this except GOD. It was proved true.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/7/13


1 Corinthians 14:2 shows things a prophet does. This does not say anything about giving words of canon scripture.

Also, we have how Agabus was used to tell the church that there would be a famine. Acts 11:27-30 So, as a prophet he was used to do other than give words for canon scripture.

So, it is God's choice what He does with a prophet. He is not subject to our self-favoring beliefs which we use to compare to others and use to exalt our own groups above others.

"For we dare not class ourselves or compare ourselves with those who commend themselves. But they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise." (2 Corinthians 10:12)
---willie_c: on 11/7/13


First of all, one doesn't need a prophet to be telling you that stealing and lying is wrong. Even a fifth grade child and an unregenerate sinner will tell you it is so.
--
---christan on 11/7/13


Great. So a fifth grader and unregenerate person DOES know what sin is, therefore is not totally depraved.
---kathr4453 on 11/7/13


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"Obviously, many have no idea what the office of a prophet of God is all about. Deuteronomy 18:20-22 sums it up clearly for everyone to understand."
---christan on 11/7/13

Yes, reading the Bible gives wisdom and understanding as the Word of God is contained therein. Learning from it the ways of God is truly learning from God.
Therefore read,understand and find Christ if you haven't yet:

"It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me."
---Nana on 11/7/13


"But if a prophet agrees with scripture and tells you that stealing is wrong or that lying is wrong then how does that make it impossible for Prophets to be?" Samuelbb7

First of all, one doesn't need a prophet to be telling you that stealing and lying is wrong. Even a fifth grade child and an unregenerate sinner will tell you it is so.

Obviously, many have no idea what the office of a prophet of God is all about. Deuteronomy 18:20-22 sums it up clearly for everyone to understand.
---christan on 11/7/13


Janz:

A prophet is called (chosen by) God to speak His word on His behalf. God alone decides who is & who isn't His prophets:

Deut. 18:22 - "When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing [doesn't] happen or come to pass, [that's] the thing which the LORD [hasn't] spoken, the [false] prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid [overwhelmed with respect for ~ stand in awe] of him."

1 Jn. 4:1-2 - "Beloved, [don't] believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether [they're] of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God."
---Leon on 11/7/13


but how can you prove that a person is approved of God and is a prophet? Anyone can pretend to use scripture to fool anyone. What is physical proof to prove otherwise. E.G.White is the prophet of the Adventists. Can you prove to me that she was approved of God? She never claimed that she was one but Adventists did and still do
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---janz on 11/7/13


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Samuel, here is what you saidl
"But if a prophet agrees with scripture and tells you that stealing is wrong or that lying is wrong then how does that make it impossible for Prophets to be?"
Why would you call that person a prophet? Any believer can do that. All they are saying is what was already prophesied. That is not a prophet. The prophets of today claim something new that is not in Scripture. And there is no way anyone can authenticate what they say is true. God would have to speak to all of us and say, that person is my prophet. But I do not think He will do that. What they say might sound great, feel good, and very religious, but it is not Truth. We have Truth already written down for us.
---Mark_V. on 11/7/13


This is what I hate about religions of men. They all try to make God in their on Image. Lord help us.
---bryan on 11/6/13


Yes Markv what you wrote is absolutely correct. So if a person claims to be a prophet and adds or takes from what scripture says they are wrong.

But if a prophet agrees with scripture and tells you that stealing is wrong or that lying is wrong then how does that make it impossible for Prophets to be?

John the Baptist was a prophet yet his most of his words are not part of scripture. Phillips daughters were prophetess. But their words are not recorded in scripture. So what you wrote does not stop there being prophets.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/6/13


Mark E, you are correct concerning your answer, that people are warned all through Scripture not to add or take away from the Word of God. The warnings against altering the biblical test represent the close of the New Testament canon. Anyone who tampers with the Truth by attempting to falsify, mitigate, alter, or misinterpret it will incur the judgment describe in those verses.
Not only (Deut. 4:2: 12::32, but also Prov. 30:6: and Jer. 26:2). So all through Scripture we are told not to alter the Word of God, and in closing of Rev. we are reminded again with the warnings.
The meaning God had in mind was one meaning. But all Scripture can have many different applications.
---Mark_V. on 11/6/13


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"Perhaps you missed this OT passage where the Lord first told us not to add or subtract from His words..."
Mark_Eaton on 11/5/13

Revelation 22:18_19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

Your comment is irrelevant and besides, if the Lord told "you" anything in the book of Deuteronomy, do you comply with his commands?
---Nana on 11/5/13


A prophet is chosen by God. He/she is used of God to give the his people direction by giving them words spoken to them by God. It may be something to confirm what they already know or it could be something to comfort them or it could be something to give them direction. Always it will line up with the Word of God and it will not add to the Word only confirm it or clarify it.
---Sandyz on 11/5/13


John was warning about adding only to the book we know as Revelation which was not written as the final chapter of any known compendium of books at the time.
---Nana on 11/5/13

Perhaps you missed this OT passage where the Lord first told us not to add or subtract from His words. The Lord only repeated His statement in The Revelation:

Deut 12:32 "Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it, you shall not add to it nor take away from it"
---Mark_Eaton on 11/5/13


StrogAxe: //There's nothing to say that no prophets can exist when the Bible is completed (if so, chapter and verse please)?// I totally agree with your comment.

Janz: A prophet is someone God chooses and uses to send messages(direction, guidance) to people.
---Adetunji on 11/5/13


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John was warning about adding only to the book we know as Revelation which was not written as the final chapter of any known compendium of books at the time.
"Recent scholarship has suggested other possibilities including a putative figure given the name John of Patmos. Most modern scholars believe it was written around AD 95, with some believing it dates from around AD 70." Wikipedia
---Nana on 11/5/13


Yes the Bible is complete and the Judge of all. Including those who say they are prophets. JESUS warned that False prophets will come in the last days. John wrote:

1Jo 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

So we should try those who say they are prophets. If they try to replace the Bible they are false. If they say do not trust the Bible they are false. But if they say trust, believe and follow the Bible. Read and do what it says. If they exhort, reprimand and work to build up the church. Why would we say that GOD cannot do that.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/5/13


StrongAxe, how does the Bible end? Revelation, isn't it? The full picture (from time beginning till the end) of God's plan and what's to come is been encapsulated in Revelation. There's a clear and specific reason to why it ends the way it ends -

"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."

John explicitly declares the Bible is complete here.
---christan on 11/4/13


For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me, him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
---Steveng on 11/4/13


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1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether [there be] prophecies, they shall fail, whether [there be] tongues, they shall cease, whether [there be] knowledge, it shall vanish away.
---micha9344 on 11/4/13


"But he who prophesies speaks edification and exhortation and comfort to men." (1 Corinthians 14:3)

edification > building up . . . in love

exhortation > charging up and filling up what has been built . . . in love

comfort > keeping up what is charged up and filled up . . . in love

We still need this. And a real prophet ministers grace > 1 Peter 4:9-10 > so others can also minister love. So, it is not only a talking thing, but with God's gift to be able to minister grace . . . of love.
---willie_c: on 11/4/13


christan:

You said: If there are still prophets coming after the completion of the Holy Bible prophesying new prophesies, then God has not completed what He wants His people to know. In short, the Bible isn't complete

To be precise, how do YOU know the Bible is complete? Nothing in scripture gives an index, or a completion date. Church tradition says it is, but that's non-biblical tradition nonetheless.

Some prophets (like Moses) wrote the Word of God. Some (like Elijah) never wrote anything. Even Jesus himself never wrote anything recorded. There's nothing to say that no prophets can exist when the Bible is completed (if so, chapter and verse please)?
---StrongAxe on 11/3/13


wherre is the bibie does it say that Jesus was a Prophet? My bible tells me, that Jesus is the Son of God, and a Prophet is what speaks for God such as Jeremiah, Isaia etc. All Humans and Jesus is an Heavenly being, way above any man or Prophet. Prove me wrong otherwise
---Jay on 11/4/13


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steveng, not only are you an unbeliever of the Word, you're a hypocrite all rolled into one. Honestly, what does "Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds" means to you?

If there are still prophets coming after the completion of the Holy Bible prophesying new prophesies, then God has not completed what He wants His people to know. In short, the Bible isn't complete. Well, to you maybe it isn't, to me all God wants us to know is there in the 66 books of the Bible, period.

As usual quoting verses only prove your understanding of the verses are erroneous.
---christan on 11/3/13


Ephesians 4:11 I don't think I would call Jesus a liar. Steveng I call this the hand of God Prophets piont the way to Jesus, evangelists reach out to the people encourage them to follow Jesus, Pastor help you to grow Jesus, Teacher should show how the word works for you, and Apostle are to keep it all working for the Glory of God. then you have Ephesians 4:12.
---bryan on 11/3/13


where in the bible does it say that Jesus was a prophet?
---Jay on 11/3/13


christan: "... the last prophet God sent was His Son Jesus Christ. There are no more prophets after the Bible was completed."

Then you will be the one of many christians who will send gifts to one another and celebrate the death of the last two prophets mentioned in Revelation. Revelation 11:10

If the bible warns us of false prophets surely there must be true prophets.


Matthew 5:17
Matthew 10:41
Matthew 23:34
Matthew 24:24

After Jesus rose:
Acts 3:23-25
Acts 10:43
Acts 13:1
Acts 13:6
Acts 15:32
Acts 21:10
1 Corinthians 12:28
1 Corinthians 14:29, 32, 37
Ephesians 4:11
Peter 2:1
Revelation 18:24
Revelation 22:9
---Steveng on 11/3/13


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A prophet is called (chosen by) God to speak His word on His behalf. God alone decides who is & who isn't His prophets:

Deut. 18:22 - "When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing [doesn't] happen or come to pass, [that's] the thing which the LORD [hasn't] spoken, the [false] prophet has spoken it presumptuously, you shall not be afraid [overwhelmed with respect for ~ stand in awe] of him."

1 Jn. 4:1-2 - "Beloved, [don't] believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether [they're] of God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God."
---Leon on 11/2/13


As it is written:

"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the Lord hath not spoken?

When a prophet speaketh in the name of the Lord, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him."
Deuteronomy 18:20-22
---christan on 11/2/13


Any body who gives you the word of God for victory in your life. But the words they give you will not be of judgement. It will be words of life not death. If they are words of death. Get on your knees and pray again that false prophet. Cause Jesus gives life not death.
---Bryan on 11/2/13


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