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Bryan, there is a big difference in what you say and what others say. You sound like a follower of the SDA's. You tell others to sow, as if they are not been moved by the Spirit but you are. SDA's say, they keep the Saturday Sabbath and why are the others breaking the Ten Commandments?
Do what the Spirit moves you to do, do not compare yourself to other believers. God moves every single believer where He wants to move them and guides them on what to do, many do great good deeds and don't announce it to anyone, or do they tell others to do the same.
Second, what you say is never in the Bible. You make new meanings up as you go and then say it is in Mark 3 or John 4 and so on, and when we look the passages never say what you said.
---Mark_V. on 1/12/14


There is a big difference between religious witnessing and share what is in my heart. Is Jesus in your heart Mark? He is in mine and I share the Good News of that. Is not a gimmick or a tick, It's the truth and it set people free. It is not religious gimmicks or ticks, it just takes someone to share the Gospel. Read Luke 8:18, All I know is Jesus Gave me his life. Yes Mark our spirit are born again, Now we have the right to know now the Kingdom of God works. If your a follower of Jesus you get to know it "Mark chapter 4"
---BRYAN on 1/11/14


Mark_V: Your last comment is a very smooth-talking pour out. But the doctrine you have been preaching before now betrays your comment. When/where was your turning-point? Turning point is something every Christian has. If you are hanging on being saved from heaven prior to your being born to the earth , you deceive yourself & need a rethink.
---Adetunji on 1/11/14


Bryan, my salvation is a spiritual salvation, Christ in me directs me, shows me, moves me, guides me, in whatever He wants me to do. I live my life by faith in Jesus Christ. I do not live my life by trying to be good, good should be flowing out of you, for everything good comes from above, whether you are at home, church or any place. God puts people before me I do not go out looking on my own. I do not work on my own. I let the Spirit guide me to whom God is already changing by His Spirit. Then He puts them in my path so that they can hear the Truth. If I try on my own nothing really works. Many invent ways to witness with tricks and games. Those things are not of God. Pushing the gospel on people does not work. Salvation is all of God.
---Mark_V. on 1/11/14


Mark What does Matthew 6:33 say to you? Or better yet How do you seek the Kingdom? Church hoping? Staying home and just read the bible? What was Jesus doing when he was on the Earth? Staying home and reading his bible! No he was out in life sharing the Gospel even told his disciple to go out and share the Gospel. The word "SEEK" zeteo, God's rule in your life, what is God rule? Jesus told us before he left earth did he not, Matthew 28:19, do you need more? Mark 16:15 There is that act again of sowing the Gospel Who told us that I wounder? Quit telling people their not suppose to share the Gospel that is bad seed Mark.
---BRYAN on 1/10/14




Mark_V: Once a person has given his/her life to Christ, he/she becomes part of His body. The Lord distributes HIS attributes to HIS followers. If someone says he is a Christian, in 1 way or other he/she must reflect Christ Acts 11:26. Verses in the Bible have links to one another, they hardly stand alone. My main disagreement with you is because you make statements that directly contradicts the Bible(that is 1 thing a Christian must be sensitive to disagree with).
---Adetunji on 1/10/14


Adetunji, if you had been paying attention you would have known that Bryan was not talking about ( Luke 19:10). He was speaking about another passage. I was answering to (Matt. 6:33).
"Bryan, You gave (Matt. 6:33), and no where does it say what you said,
"God provides the increase according to his word. If you are sowing his word it will increase in your life. Jesus said Matthew 6:33. How do you think this scripture is going to work in your life if your not sharing or sowing the Gospel."

The context in (Matthew 6:33) is different then the context in (Luke 19:10) in that passage Luke was speaking about the Son of Man, how He came to seek and to save that which was lost"
---Mark_V. on 1/10/14


Mark_V://"First seek the kingdom of God ... all those things shall be added to you" ..., . It's not speaking about sharing or sowing the word of God.// You broadcast your ignorance of God's word so much. The Lord said in Luke 19:10 that HE came to seek & save that which was lost. Bryan is correct, sowing & sharing God's word is joining the Lord to achieve this purpose & therefore seeking the interest of God's Kingdom too.
---Adetunji on 1/9/14


Bryan, You gave (Matt. 6:33), and no where does it say what you said,
"God provides the increase according to his word. If you are sowing his word it will increase in your life. Jesus said Matthew 6:33. How do you think this scripture is going to work in your life if your not sharing or sowing the Gospel."
The passage says for them not to worry about what they are going to eat, drink or what they wear. God will provide for them if they
"First seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all those things shall be added to you" not to worry about tomorrow, to seek first the kingdom of God. It's not speaking about sharing or sowing the word of God.
your adding your own meanings to the passages.
---Mark_V. on 1/9/14


What is Jesus, His is the word of God made Flesh. When you tall people about Jesus what are you doing? Planting seeds of the Gospel I hope Mark. That is called sowing. Do you? God provides the increase according to his word. If you are sowing his word it will increase in your life. Jesus said Matthew 6:33. How do you think this scripture is going to work in your life if your not sharing or sowing the Gospel. Both words produce Gods increase in your life. If it's not happening then your not sharing or sowing.
---BRYAN on 1/8/14




Bryan, you are putting context upon context upon context. Sowing and reaping does not mean the same thing in every passage. The metaphor spoken by Paul in Galatians is talking about a person life.
"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will reap." he is talking about the persons life. for he says,
"For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruptions" he is saying sin always corrupts and if a person panders to the flesh evil desires, he will reap corruption. He is not talking about going out and planting seeds out on a field. But of the persons character.
Sowing is talked about through the whole bible, and it is mostly concerns crops. A different context.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/14


Mark 4:9,10,11, This is the start of the explanation of the parable. Followers and the 12 were given. Then he ask then A question Mark 4:13 about the Parable. Oh Do you put your light under a bed? How about Mark 4:22, nothing hidden, Mark 4:24 Here it is How you sow is how you will reap. Mark 4:26 Here is how the seed grows in your life Wow. These are the rules of the New Covenant understand them Get them producing in your life and it will change the world.
---BRYAN on 1/7/14


Bryan, you said,
"Jesus said If you don't understand the parable you will not understand how the word of God works." that is not what the parable says. Jesus actually said,
"And He said to them, Do you not understand this parable?" speaking of the parable. Then Jesus said,
" How then will you understand all the parables?" The subject was the parables not the Word of God and how it works. You do not understand the parable. The Son of man plants the good seeds on the fields, we (believers) are the good seeds. Jesus explained the parable to them
"...and when they were alone, he explained all things to His disciples" (Mark 4:34)
---Mark_V. on 1/7/14


When you are Given the truth you cast it under your on feet. Jesus taught the word. Now the Holy Spirit teach us all things. Jesus said If you don't understand the parable you will not understand how the word of God works. Not me But Jesus said it. You can say I said if it will make you feel better to prove your religion. Mark 4:13 read it. Mark you still don't believe your suppose sow the Gospel.
---BRYAN on 1/6/14


\\Let's look at the parable Mark. Jesus said If you don't understand this parable you will not understand any think I'm trying to teach you\\

How can you teach when you have no spiritual understanding yourself, BRYAN?

Christ is baptized! In the Jordan!
---Cluny on 1/6/14


Bryan, you said,
" Jesus said If you don't understand this parable you will not understand any think I'm trying to teach you"
Jesus never said that to the disciples. In fact every time Jesus gave a parable He explained the parable to them. The mysteries of the kingdom were always explained to them. He spoke in parables to the lost, yet He was telling the disciples,
"To you it has been given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God, but to those who are outside, all things come in parables so that,
"Seeing they may see and not perceive. And hearing they may hear and not understand, lest they should turn, and their sins be forgiven them"
---Mark_V. on 1/6/14


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Strange isnt it, Cluny? I can't get an answer to a simple question. Kinda makes ya wonder why, huh?

I guess those who "speak in tongues" can forget everything else.

I imagine these are just more of the "special chosen" people that "stand above" those of us that are content with serving the Lord with plain communications.

---Elder on 1/6/14


Let's look at the parable Mark. Jesus said If you don't understand this parable you will not understand any think I'm trying to teach you. You just think it about salvation, it covers more than that. Jesus said this is how the Kingdom of Heaven works, what ever you sow that is what you will reap.
---BRYAN on 1/5/14


\\Bryan, you said,(speaking about tongues/languages) "It builds you up in your most Holy Faith."\\

Or does it just convince you of what you want to think?

NOT the same things.

Some tongues-speakers say that the Holy Spirit is the Third Person of the Trinity.

Others, namely Oneness Pentecostals, deny the Trinity. (The classical name for this heresy is Sabellian Modalism.)

And some deny the Deity of the Holy Spirit.

And you really want us to believe that the same Holy Spirit is teaching three different and contradictory doctrines?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/5/14


Bryan, you use very confusing language to preach. You give the parables concerning the Wheat and tares yet you still do not understand the parables even when the answer is given.
1. The One who sows the good seed is the Son of Man (Jesus Christ).
2. The good seed are the sons of the kingdom (His children).
3. The field is the earth.
4. The one who sows the bad seed is Satan.
5. The bad seed (the tares) are the sons of the wicked one.
6. The harvest is the end of the age.
7. The reapers are the angels.
The Son of Man will send out His angels and gather all things that offend and those who practice lawlessness and cast them into the fire.
The parables have nothing to do with what you are preaching.
---Mark_V. on 1/5/14


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Bryan, you said,(speaking about tongues/languages) "It builds you up in your most Holy Faith."
Well, which builds us up better, speaking in "tongues" or knowing Gods Word?
Which do you prefer, tongues or the Scriptures?
Since faith comes by the Word of God I don't see how any personal activity, such as tongues, could do any better than what God has already given.
I have never met any tongues speaker that didn't think they were better than those who didn't do the same.
---Elder on 1/4/14


Then Mark what seeds come out of your mouth? God said you will be judged by your words. Jesus said,"Matthew 12:36,"But I tell you that every careless "WORD" that people speak, they shall give an accounting for it in the day of judgment. See Mark those will be seeds you have sown. Words. Then you works will follow your words. What you grow in your life starts as a seed. Christ does not start growing in you until your born again. Seed of salvation somebody sowed the word to you then you believed it, and it was not Jesus it was someone who believes in Jesus sowing his word.
So figure you religious way out of that one. Jesus sowed the word now it is our turn to sow the same word. The word of God.
---BRYAN on 1/4/14


Mark what is the Power of God in? "It is in his word"! Were is the word of God right now? Is it in your heart, in your head, under your feet? Where have you put it, are you sowing it out your mouth? Are do you sow something else? Revelation 12:11 And they have conquered him "satan" by the blood of the Lamb and by the "WORD" (oops there it is again) of their testimony. The "WORD" seem to be every were I look in the B,I,B,L,E. Full of power changing life's for the Glory of God. Yes it takes faith in the word for it to work in your life. Want the miracle sow his word then watch what happen in your life.
---BRYAN on 1/4/14


Bryan 2: If you read the parables in ( Matt 13) you would have read that it is the Son of Man who sows the good seed. It is not man.
"He answered and said to them:
He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. The enemy who sows them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels"
(Matt. 13:37-39). It is the Son of Man who does the sowing.
---Mark_V. on 1/4/14


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Bryan, you say,
"Matthew 13, Mark 4 and Luke 8 Was the first parable Jesus taught, when you understand that parable you will know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven,"
How can you know what the mysteries are if you do not know how to interpret the parables? When we are commanded to preach the gospel, we don't know whom God is going to save, are even have any clue who will receive the gospel in power and in the Holy Spirit (1 Thess. 1:4,5). You declared it your faith. The same as the Word of Faith teachers. You say, if you do not have faith no one is healed. Nonsense. It is up to God who is healed and who is saved, its not up to you. You have no power to save anyone. It is the power of God that saves.
---Mark_V. on 1/3/14


Funny Mark what has been given to you? What have you been call for? Matthew 13, Mark 4 and Luke 8 Was the first parable Jesus taught, when you understand that parable you will know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven, That is what Jesus said He said when you understand how to sow the Gospel you will reap the Gospel. That is what Jesus said. The word is pretty clear on that point. When you say if God wants to or if he feel like it he will do a Miracles? He does every thing according to his word. Just think if your walking in his word what is going to follow you?
---BRYAN on 1/2/14


"Anybody can say Gods' word. But when you say it full of faith that is when it changes people's life."-BRYAN on 12/28/13
Phi 1:18 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is preached, and I therein do rejoice, yea, and will rejoice.
Rom 10:17 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Phi 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.
--I don't think the messenger is nearly as important as the Message.
*earthen vessels*
---micha9344 on 1/2/14


Bryan, you avoided answering my questions by saying,
"Praying in tongues is not for you mark you have made your belief clear." I don't believe in praying in tongues because we are never commanded to do that.
Jesus told us how to pray. I pray in English. Then say to me,
" Is there anything else in the word you don't belief." I believe all of the word of God, but not how you interpret the word.
Then say,
" Like sowing and reaping, healing, 5 fold ministry. satan is a thief?" How much poison have you taken to show how great your ministry is? And can you explain what satan stole from you? And how did you know it was satan? Have you seen him before?
---Mark_V. on 12/31/13


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cluny, when you correct adults with their spelling, it makes you look silly. it isn't your place to correct the spelling of adults. Ive seen many misspelled words but It isn't my place to correct them. stop treating adults like they are pre-k
---shira4368 on 12/30/13


BRYAN, please learn to spell.

BELIEF is a noun.

BELIEVE is a verb.

If you write like a literate adult, you're more likely to be taken seriously.

Christ is born! Glorify Him!
---Cluny on 12/29/13


Praying in tongues is not for you mark you have made your belief clear. Is there anything else in the word you don't belief. Like sowing and reaping, healing, 5 fold ministry. satan is a thief?
---BRYAN on 12/29/13


Ephesians 2:18, Romans 8:1516, Acts 2:4 Act 8:14-17 weird scriptures for the way you believe Mark? Act 4:29-31 1 Corinthians 12:811 There's another one Mark. Ephesians 6:18, Romans 8:14 Luke 24:49 Jesus said that, Titus 3:5 By the Spirit (Acts 1:8 How to be a wittiness) 1 Corinthians 2:4 look what God has given us Ephesians 4:30, Don't grieve the Holy Spirit Mark
---BRYAN on 12/29/13


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Bryan, you avoided answering my questions. You give Jude 20 to confirm what you said, and the passage says nothing about speaking in tongues or gibberish. Then say,
"Anybody can say Gods' word. But when you say it full of faith that is when it changes people's life."
Your faith has nothing whatsoever to do with the faith of someone else.
Then you give,
1 Corinthians 14:2" as your answer, so why do you talk to God in gibberish? Answer the question. You don't know what you are saying, and God doesn't either, what is the purpose of doing it? You only gain pride. Then say,
" If I prophecy it will build you up in truth."
If you prophecy I will run away from you as far as possible.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/13


It builds you up in your most Holy Faith. Jude 1:20 So the power of the Holy Spirit will follow out of you. When you speak Gods word. Anybody can say Gods' word. But when you say it full of faith that is when it changes people's life. 1 Corinthians 14:2 Mark it is not for you to know what their talking to God about. If I prophecy it will build you up in truth. If I'm talking to God, It's not for you to know. It's between God and me. Just like if you prayed in tongues it would be between you and God.
---BRYAN on 12/28/13


Bryan, here you say,
"Mark there you go again talking about things you just don't believe in. If a person prays in tongues that is between them and God not them, you, then God." How you pray is up to you. What I question is what you do.
What purpose does it serve you to pray in tongues? Does God hear you better? Does He need to know you know tongues? Is God impress with you, and very disappointed at those who don't? He gave you a normal language to speak with, why is tongues better?
And if you pray in Gibberish, how do you know you are praying to Him? You do not understand gibberish, God does not under gibberish, why even pray in gibberish? Can you answer those questions? We who do not believe gibberish want to know.
---Mark_V. on 12/28/13


\\I've fooled a few of them and they get angry\\

Wrong again, Caleb.

Demons are centuries old with lots of experience and more intelligence than you will have.

Therefore, they are the ones who fooled YOU.

Christ is born! Glorify Him!
---Cluny on 12/27/13


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I've fooled a few of them and they get angry. :P Remember that they are created beings, though exceptionally intelligent and far stronger than we are in the physical sense of power, not in the spiritual authority sense, and they are sealed from grace. God has complete power over them. There really is no need to out plan them or worry about whether or not they know what we are thinking. It is our responsibility to stay in touch with the Holy Spirit. It is God that will defeat Satan, not us. So follow God first. Do what God teaches you. No need to worry about the rest. Basically, I would assume if God didn't want to be understood, He is fully capable of not being understood. So whether they know or not is of no consequence.
---Caleb on 12/27/13


Praying in tongues has no biblical foundation.
It is easy not to believe in something that is not real.
---micha9344 on 12/27/13


Mark there you go again talking about things you just don't believe in. If a person prays in tongues that is between them and God not them, you, then God. Praying in tongues is a gift some believe in it and some don't. What kind of person are you that condemns people who do?
---BRYAN on 12/27/13


Bryan, you now say,
"When your praying or talking in tongues your connected directly to God. devil can't interpret."
The devil cannot interpret a language that does not exist. Neither can anyone alive. Not even God. He knows what is in your heart even before you pray. But if you are going to talk in gibberish He won't know what you are saying. He gave you the ability to speak in a certain known language, why would you speak to Him in a language not known even by you?
---Mark_V. on 12/26/13


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God knows the heart of a man. The devil only plants seeds of doubt about the word of God. God gives you his all and the devil said, "no he did not". there is your doubt. Where did it come form? The devil, he can't understand Gods' heavenly language. Cause God only gives it to a born again people. devil is not born again, and he don't want you talking to God unless he can hear you. When your praying or talking in tongues your connected directly to God. devil can't interpret.
---BRYAN on 12/25/13


He's been around since the fall. He was around when God confused the languages. Seems to me if he didn't know them then, he's had enough time to know them now.
---micha9344 on 12/18/13


As far as the tongues of the diff nationalities - languages yes. Devil can do about the same as God can do. God saves people from their sins Acts 2 v 38. Devil saves - keeps people in their sins, the trinity Rev.17 v's 4 - 6. God can read peoples minds, The devil CanNot do such, he has Not that power to do so. God knows The Holy Ghost in tongues, the devil don't. I've seen - heard the devil have people talk in his form of tongues, & God Knows what was said.
---Lawrence on 12/17/13


Bryan, you are having so much trouble with your theology. You do what many Christians do, they speak a lot of religious language they hear others speak. In the process they add and take away the meaning God wanted to convey to us. As the language is passed from one person to another, the story keeps changing over and over. Word of Faith teachers do that a lot. Put truth and lie together and it sounds great to those who hear, what the people fail to do is check if what they said is truth, by comparing what they say with the Word of God, but so many don't. They believe what they hear and do the same things with others.
---Mark_V. on 12/15/13


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Bryan, you now say:
"mark How do you build your self up in your most holy faith? If not in the Holy spirit or tongues how else will you get there?"
Listen to what you said,
"If not in the Holy Spirit or tongues" Either one you say. I guess you choose tongues right?
Nonsense. Tongues only makes you self-righteous. You have something others do not have. You want to stand up among all others. Gifts are not given to us for that purpose, and not all are given the same gift. Tongues are for a sign, not for believers but for unbelievers.
"Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers," (1 Cor. 14:22)
---Mark_V. on 12/14/13


mark How do you build your self up in your most holy faith? If not in the Holy spirit or tongues how else will you get there? Holy thinking holy talking If that is what Jude was saying he would have said that. He said praying in the Holy Spirit cause you can't pray in your flesh to build up your spirit to do the will of God. You pray in tongues or in the spirit language to get your flesh to do the will of God. The Spirit is willing but the Flesh is weak, not the other wat around
---BRYAN on 12/13/13


Bryan, do you ever check what you are going to put down? you say:
"satan knows if he can stop that gift he can stop us. That gift builds you up so you can do the will of God all the time. Jude 1,20,"
(jude 20) is not speaking of the gift of tongues. Don't you realize when you misinterpret a passage by adding to it, you are doing the will of Satan? He wants everyone to be confused, and you are helping him. Here is what it says,
"But you, beloved, building yourselves up on our most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit"
The believers are building themselves up on their holy faith, when they pray in the Holy Spirit. Says nothing about the gift of tongues.
---Mark_V. on 12/9/13


cluny you never answered the question. How do you become holy or spiritual in your religion? still waiting
---BRYAN on 12/8/13


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\\No demons can't understand tongues\\

I'll bet they understand YOURS, BRYAN, because they are not Divinely given.

Your beliefs are so mixed ,up, thinking that God has created attributes.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/7/13


No demons can't understand tongues. That is why there is such a division in the body of Christ about the gift of tongues. satan knows if he can stop that gift he can stop us. That gift builds you up so you can do the will of God all the time. Jude 1,20,
---BRYAN on 12/7/13


It matters not what tongues we speak of, none is needed in this point in history. We have interpretors in every country and if someone wanted to bring the gospel to someone else, there will always be interpretors to that country a person is witnessing to. Now if someone want so speak to God in tongues who are we to say differently, it is by their own will they do that, as long as we pray to God in Spirit and in Truth. No one has the right to tell another not to pray in tongues. This perticular topic of tongues divides many a Christian, and not for the glory of God.
Neo-Pentacostals insist if you do not speak in tongues a person is not saved. Now that divides Christians cause it is false. Tongues is not for believers but for unbelievers.
---Mark_V. on 12/1/13


The Bible says when we speak in Tongues,the ones the Holy Ghost gives utterance to,we speak to God,therefore if its a private speech to God it doesn't seem that He would let Satan know what we are saying. There is a great misconception about Tongues that they are not a language but gibberish which just isn't the case. Just because we don't understand them doesn't mean they aren't a language. There are nearly five thousand languages in the world and unless we know every one of them we aren't qualified to judge whether they are a real language. Whether a person speaks in Tongues or doesn't really doesn't define who that person is or their worth in the Kingdom of God. I've many Christian friends who don't and I love them just the same.
---Darlene_1 on 11/29/13


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Marks, pleeeeeease I was saying tongues is different languages. I'm not talking about gibberish. I don't understand gibberish either. Some people believe in tongues and I have a friend here that believes in tongues.
---shira4368 on 11/26/13


Shira, if you go to France and only know how to speak English, people there can understand what you are saying if you have an interpretor.
But if you go there and speak gibberish, no one will understand because gibberish is not a language and no one can interpret a no language. It has not understanding. So why speak in gibberish when you can speak in your own language? This way someone can interpret what you say, and they will understand you.
---Mark_V. on 11/26/13


Paul could speak several languages. would we who speak English go to France where they cannot understand English? Same with Paul.
---shira4368 on 11/26/13


Steven, you are way out of context. We were speaking of the spiritual gift of Tongues. Not how many times you can find tongue or tongues in the Bible.
(1 and 2 Corinthians) spiritual gifts. You are so far away and you say I am speaking of worldy things. Get in the subject. The Corinthians were speaking in a "tongue" to empress others, which had not understanding because it is not a known language. It was not the gift of languages "Tongues".
---Mark_V. on 11/26/13


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Mark_V., you are still talking about earthly tongues, about foreign languages in which there are thousands. I revealed four different use of tongues in my 11/16/13 post.

You need to stop reading concordances and other christian reference books that are written in worldly knowledge and depend more upon the Holy Spirit for spritual knowledge.
---Steveng on 11/25/13


Steven, I believe we answered to (1 Cor. 14:2). Do you speak to God without understanding? You should do what Paul said in (1 Cor. 14:13).
"Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue (singular) pray that he may interpret. For If I pray in a tongue (singular) my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with understanding" then Paul gives the reason why he said what he did. Read on.
Paul gives thanks to God he could speak in Tongues (plural). He says, yet in the church he would rather speak five words with understanding, so that he could teach others also, then ten thousand words in a tongue (singular).
---Mark_V. on 11/25/13


Have you people not read the last verse in my 11/16/13 post?


For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him, howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. 1 Corinthians 14:2

When one 'speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men' is not saying any foreign language. For a foreign language man, knowing that language, can understand. The verse expressly says 'for no man understandeth him'.
---Steveng on 11/24/13


Steveng most of God's children are decent,God fearing people who would never,not ever,speak "gibberish" from their head. I know I have always had a desire to serve God and please Him above all with a healthy fear I would fail Him or offend Him not because I was afraid He would strike me down but from my love for Him. I know that tongues doesn't come from me at all but through me as the Holy Ghost gives utterance therefore I am responsible to be obedient as a worker to my master,doing only what God leads.
---Darlene_1 on 11/22/13


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Steven, you say,
" The "gibberish you hear when one prays to God are the 'thoughts' coming from the heart."
you have got to be kidding. Because Paul tells us that "tongue" singular is speaking with no understanding, is unfruitful.
"Therefore let him who speaks in a "tongue" pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a "tongue" my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. What is the conclusion then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding, I will sing with the spirit and I will also sing with understanding" (1 Cor. 14:13,-15).
The passages are pretty clear, if you speak to God in a tongue you speak with no understanding.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/13


Steven 2: you mentioned that many people do not like me, and I know that already. I did not expect to make many friends if I spoke of the Sovereignty of God, the right for God to choose whom He will's to choose. That is not a popular thing among those who believe otherwise. Here I have no reason to believe it is wrong to pray to God in gibberish. I know many that do. It does not suggest they are not saved, just like it doesn't suggest that those who don't speak in tongues are not saved. We are saved by Grace through faith as a gift so that one one may boast. If a person is saved by God, he is saved.
---Mark_V. on 11/22/13


Mark_V.: "Darline, I tried to stay out of this topic, Steven pulled me in."

I pulled you in? How in the world did I pull you in? I don't have any influence upon you at all. I guess it was your choice to be "pulled in."

You don't have a clue of the meaning of 1 Cor. 14:13,14. Yes, most christians talk gibbersih without any idea what they are speaking, speaking only from the head. The "gibberish you hear when one prays to God are the 'thoughts' coming from the heart.
---Steveng on 11/21/13


Mark V thank you so much,I searched until I was tired and gave up. Yes that is so true many times at home when I reach a time in prayers that I don't know how to pray then yes I speak to God alone in tongues. It does edify me and gives a peace about the thing I was praying about. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 11/20/13


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Darline, I tried to stay out of this topic, Steven pulled me in. You said,
"Even so it doesn't saY "Only God hears" or that it is "gibberish to men and Satan"." You are right, that's what Steven G quoted, so I put it down in bold letters.
Then say: "What it does say is that anyone who speaks in tongues is speaking to God and men can't understand." The word used is singular "for he that speaketh in an unknown tongue (singular) speaketh not unto to men but to God: for no one understandeth him, howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries" (1 Cor. 14:2) from my KJV Complete Wordstudy of the New Testament. Which gives the interpretation of each word in Greek and Hebrew.
---Mark_V. on 11/20/13


Mark V Please tell me what Bible Translation you used for 1 Corinthians 14:2,I looked in 6 different translations and not one worded that verse as you gave it on here,I assume perhaps I didn't look far enough. Even so it doesn't saY "Only God hears" or that it is "gibberish to men and Satan". What it does say is that anyone who speaks in tongues is speaking to God and men can't understand but it goes on further down in other verses to say that it is all about body,church edification and ministry and that we are to seek interpretation if we speak in tongues. Prophesy is greater than just tongues for all may understand unless there is interpretation then the two become equal. Thanks,for any information you give. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 11/20/13


Steven,

"And one tongue that only God hear's which is gibberish to men and Satan (1 Corinthians 14:2)"
Do you speak to God with no understanding? The word tongue in 1 Cor. 14:2 is singular, refers to the false gibberish of the counterfeit pagan gibberish. The singular is used because gibberish can't be plural, there is not various kinds of non-language. There is however various languages. Paul uses the plural making a distiction( v. 6,18,22,23.
Paul say:
"Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful. I will pray with the spirit, and I will also pray with the understanding" 1 Cor. 14:13,14.
---Mark_V. on 11/20/13


Good point Markv and Stephen.

The true gift of tongues is the ability to speak foreign languages. Or sometimes the person hearing your language hears the words in their own language. This is not easy to fake. Gibberish is easy.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/20/13


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Now, things yes, do occur certain denominations,
I witness( saw) a person the mom said her daughter possess by a demon.. the Sister lay her hands on her,speaking in
" tongues" the unction of the Holy Ghost, anyway, I do know I seen 2 times,
Demons understood her speak in tongues!
the young woman spoke and said she knew " the demon" inside her understood the holy spirit complete.
It was orderly, not scream or yelling...
The holy ghost does not act crazy or unseemly. This been many yrs.ago.
I know she did get delivered. The other woman I saw ,too got free that night. I believe it. Lidia4796
---Lidia4796 on 11/19/13


Cluny:

You wrote: Since glossolalia is part of some Hindu and other non-Christian sects, what do you think?

Just because somebody else is doing it is in no way a proof that it's necessarily wrong, per se. After all, those same sects also have prayers, scriptures and other things that also figure prominently in Christianity, and that's no reason to toss the baby out with the bath water.
---StrongAxe on 11/16/13


The bible tells of four tongues:

the world's languages (Genesis 10:5, Isaiah 66:18, Acts 2:4),

the words people speak (Psalm 12:4 remember this one, Mark V, as you talk about free will),

the tongue used as a metaphor (Isaiah 11:15) and,

the so-called gibberish in which man can not know it's meaning (Psalm 139:4, Proverbs 16:1, Mark 16:17).

And one tongue that only God hear's which is gibberish to men and Satan (1 Corinthians 14:2)

Also read:
1 John 3:18
1 Corinthians 14
---Steveng on 11/16/13


"Does the devil understand tongues?" Yes.
It is his spirit that now works in the "children of disobedience", and I am sure that those children are of every nation, tribe, and tongue.
If, by chance you are referring to the tongue spoken on "the day of Pentecost" it was heard and understood, by all who heard it, in their own language and dialect. I am relatively sure that that would include Satan and his followers.
---Josef on 11/16/13


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Bro. Willie, great answer you gave.

Mario, you asked if the devil understands tongues, but you did not make it clear what kind of tongues. Languages, or gibberish. I'm pretty sure but not positive that he knows every language there is, since the Bible does not mention that he knows all languages. But I do not think he knows gibberish, because it is not a language. Hope that helps.
---Mark_V. on 11/14/13


Hi, Mario (c: Do you know Spanish?

?Y quien es aquel que os podra hacer dano, si vosotros seguis el bien? (1 Pedro 3:13) (Spanish characters don't work in Christianet blogs)

"And who is he who will harm you if you become followers of what is good?" (1 Peter 3:13)

Our Father's almighty grace has us succeed in all He pleases to do with us. Even if Satan understands what He says, Satan can't stop Himi!

"'So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth,
. It shall not return to Me void,
. But it shall accomplish what I please,
. And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it.'"
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . (Isaiah 55:11)

God bless you (c:
---willie_c: on 11/14/13


Since glossolalia is part of some Hindu and other non-Christian sects, what do you think?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/13/13


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