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Adam Told To Rule

What did God mean when He told Adam to "rule over" fish, birds and animals?

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Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception, in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children, and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Here too uses the words " rule over thee", however having some sort of POWER is not mentioned. If man has POWER to rule over animals, then I don't believe we would ever see a bear kill a man. It also does not mean God gave man authority to do anything he wanted to animals either, just like God did not give man POWER to do anything he wanted in RULING OVER his wife.

God rules over His creation with POWER, but we see His rule is with love, mercy and justice, not Trashing our oceans and rivers killing our fish.
---kathr4454 on 4/19/15


Plain & simply, Mankind has God-given powers (dominance: rule) over other creatures that they don't have over us.
---Leon on 1/6/15


Thank you for the blessing Char, I appreciated it.
Peace to you as well. Happy to read you again.
Father willing it is my hope that you will continue to bless us all.
---Josef on 1/4/14


//---Josef on 12/6/13// Wow - Grasping your post...

God Bless you brother,

Gen 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

Jms 3(all)
5 Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!

7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:

8 But the tongue can no man tame, it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

Shalom
---char on 1/2/14


"If you look again , I did not challenge 2 Tim.3.16.17
I'm in agreement that "all scripture" OT scripture is what is meant here!" 1stCliff


You contradict yourself! You think Paul excluded the NT (which includes the four Gospels, Acts, the epistles and revelation) when he wrote 2 Tim 3:16,17? And the NT is not part of the Holy Bible? Wow!


"God did not appoint him to write scripture like Moses!"

Really? Have you read Acts 9:15, "But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel." Hence, we have the epistles...
---christan on 12/9/13




1Cliff, how can you be so naive? (2 Tim. 3:16,17) is talking about all of Scripture, not just the Old Testament Scripture. Go to 2 Peter 3:15,16). and You will find that the passage is talking about you and the whole of Scripture.
"And consider that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation, as also our beloved brother Paul, according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some thing hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own destruction, as they do also the rest of the scriptures"
That is what you are trying to do, twist what Paul wrote.
---Mark_V. on 12/9/13


Christian, If you look again , I did not challenge 2 Tim.3.16.17
I'm in agreement that "all scripture" OT scripture is what is meant here!
So Paul says "'scuse me while I write some scripture...." How naive !
If he can write something and call it scripture why can't anybody??
God did not appoint him to write scripture like Moses!
BCV please!
---1st_cliff on 12/8/13


"Not to play a game, not to find fault with the bible but to expose the false beliefs of today's fundamentalist who have not kept pace with logical interpretation!" 1stCliff

Fool not yourself! Finding fault with the Holy Bible is not the Christian mission. Know the difference that exposing your erroneous understanding and teachings of your doctrine is what's being questioned all this while.

And talk about "finding fault with the Bible", didn't you explicitly say yourself, "All inspired? All God breathed? You can believe whatever suits you." It's you who exposed yourself to be a hypocrite and a false christian when you challenged 2 Timothy 3:16,17!
---christan on 12/8/13


1Cliff, you say, fundamentalist who have not kept pace with the logical interpretation, so my question to you is. Whose logic?" your logic? You had already posted,
"The response is overwhelming.
But then again I didn't expect fundamentalists to wade into these waters."
What waters? What was your plan? You were trying to cook something by saying what you did. Then say,
"This is one of those scriptures that they wish was not there! Doesn't sit well with their thinking!" Why would they wish it was not there? Nothing to hard to understand. Why doesn't it sit well with their thinking? It was your plan to draw out certain responses to proof something to yourself. What was it?
---Mark_V. on 12/8/13


Mark V, Neither you or Leon see my mission. Not to play a game, not to find fault with the bible but to expose the false beliefs of today's fundamentalist who have not kept pace with logical interpretation!
Still clinging to folk lore and mythology , not able to see corruption of scripture by satan. Foolishly believing "Oh God would never let that happen"
So instead of a study guide it is an idol to be worshipped as "untouchable" "incorruptible"....Yep!
---1st_cliff on 12/7/13




Just like he said, "Rules as a king over them". But what did he say to Noah after the flood? The animals will be afraid of you cause of your rules over them. They understand you can turn them off at your will.
---BRYAN on 12/7/13


"Leon , Do we finally have a bible question too difficult for you to tackle?
No one has to answer anything actually, but what other method is there to 'pick your brain'?"
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


This isn't a game Clifford, so I choose not to play with you. "Pick" on someone your own size little fella! :)

Like I said previously, you would do well to seek the "mind" of God.
---Leon on 12/7/13


1Cliff, you are looking for reasons to find fault in the word of God, and in the answers people give on topics not mentined in the Bible. It is a game with you. My brother who was a smart guy use to do the same thing. I have to say that it is brought out by lack of faith in God's Word.
You either believe in the Word of God or you don't. His Word is not a game to play for your enjoyment. If someone answers wrong, you come out with all kinds of stuff you were waiting to come out with. You need to change your intentions. Ask for the glory of God, not for your glory.
---Mark_V. on 12/7/13


"You're living in a dream world!" OooooK:o)
---joseph on 12/7/13


Leon , Do we finally have a bible question too difficult for you to tackle?
No one has to answer anything actually, but what other method is there to "pick your brain"?
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


"OK Leon, Give me, for instance, an example!"
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


Ask God Cliff. He just "might" be able to answer your question(s).
---Leon on 12/6/13


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OK Leon, Give me, for instance, an example!
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


Dominion or "to rule over" is a place of authority.
I don't think God expected Adam to micro-manage every detail.
I also believe if God can make the fruitful barren and the barren fruitful, he can control the populations of animals to His Glory and desire.
If the God of the Bible is a "dream world" than so be it.
John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath, I am from above: ye are of this world, I am not of this world.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world...
1Cor 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God
John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
---micha9344 on 12/6/13


"Leon, "DOMINATE" was your answer?
I asked for a "for instance"."
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


No Clifford, you asked a question & I gave you an answer. :) You didn't say, "GIVE ME, 'for instance', an example."
---Leon on 12/6/13


Leon, "DOMINATE" was your answer?
I asked for a "for instance".
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


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"Leon, How would one 'exerCize control over'... seals who are so numerous... they are depleting the fish stock? Remember, God said 'over every living creature' G1:28...how would you 'rule over' millions of locusts? Without feeding them to the sea gulls?"
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


Cliff: I adequately answered your initial question, according to Scripture, even though my response didn't meet with your stamp of approval. So be it!

The above questions are frivolous, even foolish. I won't dignify them by responding because there's no answering you satisfactorily unless I were to get in lock step with your many errors. That's not going to happen!

As usual, you'll say I don't have a response. Whatever!
---Leon on 12/6/13


Josef, Sounds all so fuzzy warm, but really what useful purpose you going to find for tyrannosaurus rex? (like the Flintstones maybe?)
You really think millions of locusts can be tamed?
Cockroaches...well now that would be a challenge,,huh?
You're living in a dream world!
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


What did God mean when He told Adam to "rule over" fish, birds and animals?
1st_Cliff man was instructed to, and have, put them to a useful purpose beyond their original purpose. To bring them under his influence, domination, or control, in service to him. "For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed, [or] has been tamed by mankind." Jam 3:7 ESV
---Josef on 12/6/13


Leon, How would one "exersize control over" say, seals who are so numerous that they are depleting the fish stock?
Remember that God said "over every living creature" Gen.1.28.
So how would you "rule over" millions of locusts? Without feeding them to the sea gulls?
---1st_cliff on 12/6/13


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1Cliff, I don't know why you would say that the readers of Scripture wish that passage was not there, just because you are not getting many reponses.
Here is what it means:
" God gives man dominion over all other life on the earth, and with this renewed authority comes the implicit responsibility to tend and keep what was explicitly given to Adam."
In Gen. 2:15: Adam is told,
"Then the Lord took the man and put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it." Which does not mean to destroy any of God's creation.
---Mark_V. on 12/6/13


The response is overwhelming.
But then again I didn't expect fundamentalists to wade into these waters.
This is one of those scriptures that they wish was not there! Doesn't sit well with their thinking!
---1st_cliff on 12/5/13


DOMINATE: To have a commanding influence on, exercise control over.
---Leon on 12/5/13


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