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Is Evil Needed On Earth

God has not removed all the evil from this world, but we understand that our Father always does what is best for us. So - - is evil essential, somehow? Scripture? And what does this mean for our practical everyday lives, please? (c: God bless you (c:

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BRYAN: "When somebody dies were do they go? I don't see them walking around do you? They went some were we can't see in to with our natural eyes."

They are DEAD! (i.e. not alive) They cease to exist until they are recreated at the resurrection. The living soul is the combination of a body and God's breath of life (Gen 2:7). At death, the components are separated and the soul is no longer (Psa 146:4). There are no spooks!

I still say that there are only two dimensions - the natural and the supernatural.

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---jerry6593 on 1/5/14


Bro. Willie, without evil in the world, many of God's attributes would not exist. Even His love for us who believe. -----
---Mark_V. on 1/4/14

Seriously???? So God's attributes are totally dependent on evil to exist?

WOW....so in the new heaven and earth, where NO evil will enter in, God will not have many of His attributes, including NO LOVE in the new heaven or those on the new earth?????

This is what the false doctrine of Calvinism leads to and leaves you with. Anyone making this statement has NEVER been saved OR experienced the Love of God. We see this statement is totally based on THEORY, not personal experience.

GOD IS LOVE

And THIS is what Markv clearly doesn't get.
---kathr4453 on 1/5/14


I have heard Markv state this before! that God's love is demonstrated to us BY demonstrating His hate and wrath for the lost. This is SO totally messed up it's not a joke. This is such a perversion of God coming from a totally twisted human mentally of a fallen human man. Even in our earthly life, we don't demonstrate love towards one by showing hate to another. Maybe Markv grew up in a disfunctional family. Or maybe he showed love to one child by demonstrating hate towards another. But really folks, is that love at all? NO, that is a SICK person who knows nothing of LOVE to begin with.

God even tells us to love our enemy. He would never ask us to do something HE has not already demonstrated first Himself.
---kathr4453 on 1/5/14


There has to be other dimensions, because God is not in this one here because sin can not be in his presence. His word is here. He watches over it to preform it. Jeremiah 1:12. The spirit of God is here Jesus. Then Jesus said,"Our father would send the Comforter, "John 14:26" the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. When somebody dies were do they go? I don't see them walking around do you? They went some were we can't see in to with our natural eyes.
---BRYAN on 1/4/14


Bro. Willie, without evil in the world, many of God's attributes would not exist. Even His love for us who believe. Sin is still in the world by permission, but one day it will be taken care of. In the mean time, God is the restrainer of sin. Without sin, there would be no sacrifice displaying the love of God, for the sins of many.
And if man doesn't believe that a Sovereign God could have created a relatively perfect world, or a world without evil, then they do not know the God of the Bible.
---Mark_V. on 1/4/14




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BRYAN: "Do you believe there is [sic] other dimensions"

No, not in the Big Bang Theory sense. There are only two dimensions that I know of: the physical and the spiritual. Heaven is a real place. So is earth. Hell does not exist in the popular sense. According to the Bible, hell is "the grave" and the fire will be a "lake of fire" on the surface of the earth which cleanses it of sin before it is "made new".

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---jerry6593 on 1/4/14


Do you believe there is other dimensions, Heaven is in another dimension, hell is in another dimension, we live in a dimension. That is at least 3 there. Jesus has went to prepare a place for us that is another dimension. If God can talk to all of us about our on troubles at one time. I think there is more to Our created than our pea brains can imagine.
---BRYAN on 1/2/14


Teresa, no I don't believe life is on other planets, and for those reasons I gave as well. Seeing what God went through to redeem man and bring in the NEW creation! including the new heavens and earth doesn't include any redemption for other inhabitants to begin with. If there out there all will perish.
---kathr4453 on 1/2/14


So Kathr, Do you believe there are other inhabited planets? I thought from your former comments you thought earth was the only one.

Your last comment said the whole universe was effected by sin. Could you explain how you think the whole universe is affected.

My view is there are other inhabited planets but they did not sin, even though Satan tempted them. Hence they dont need salvation.

I dont mean this to sound harsh, just interested in your view of this subject.
---therese on 1/1/14


Teresa, one way to look at it is....does /did satan and all God's angels only have access and were/are only limited to this earth and galaxy per say? Will ALL things become new, or just some things? If EVERYTHING was created for Jesus and by Jesus, meaning EVERYTHING including all planets galaxies, as Hebrews says the WORLDS as in plural, would include more than just planet earth.

In the beginning God created the heavenS as in plural, and earth.

I believe sin entered the universe long before earth and man. I also believe Satan's rebellion with 1/3 of the angels affected ALL of God's creation, meaning whe whole of the universe.
---kathr4453 on 1/1/14




Psa_148:1Praise ye the LORD. Praise ye the LORD from the heavens: praise him in the heights.
Psa_148:2Praise ye him, all his angels: praise ye him, all his hosts.
Psa_148:3Praise ye him, sun and moon: praise him, all ye stars of light.
Psa_148:4Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, (and) ye waters that be above the heavens.
Psa_148:5Let them praise the name of the LORD: for he commanded, (and they were created.)

148:4There are waters above the heavens!
Rev_4:6And (before the throne) there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.
Just to be clear, Eph_4:10!
Peace
---TheSeg on 12/31/13


Kathr , One day there will be a NEW heavens and earth

If this refers to the whole universe, does it also refer to Gods throne room which is also called heaven.

Genesis 1:8. Tells us one way the bible uses the word heaven.

GOD CALLED THE FIRMAMENT HEAVEN. HE DIVIDED THE WATERS UNDER THE HEAVEN , FROM THE WATERS ABOVE THE HEAVEN.

To me and others who believe there are other inhabited planets, this is about the creation of our earth, not the entire universe.

So it is this firmament, this HEAVEN, and the earth that will be destroyed and then made new.

It certainly wouldnt be fair for God to destroy the other planets and their inhabitants for what happened on earth.
---THERESE on 12/31/13


THERESE, here is food for thought. One day there will be a NEW heavens and earth.

It would appear, if you believe life is on other planets, those other planets will be totally destroyed one day, and a New Heaven and earth will be put in it's place.

Seems rather unfair to punish other creatures for our and the sin of Angels.
---kathr4453 on 12/31/13


willie c: No, evil is not necessary. But our FREE WILL allows us to choose it rather than obeying God.


Therese: Yes, there are other inhabited worlds, but none of them have fallen into sin - just us.



---jerry6593 on 12/31/13


In my last blogg, I suggested that belief in many inhabited planets, or only one, did not affect our understanding of salvation. I may have been wrong.

This morning God gave me this thought . IF it is true there are many OTHER INHABITED PLANETS, how MUCH MORE AMAZING that God would sacrifice so much to offer earths inhabitants salvation. God could have obliterated earth and Adam and Eve, and still had had many worlds.

That enhances my understanding of salvation.

If earth is the ONLY INHABITED place, other than heaven, in the universe, and God had finished creation after making Adam and Eve, was there any other thing for God to do but to provide salvation for us?

Some food for thought.
---therese on 12/30/13


I really believe there is no other life out there and it's simply because it is so big.
It's an impossible thing to believe.

The seven days also! why?
It's an impossible thing to believe.

There are other things I believe also, why?
Because they are impossible to believe!

1Co_2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God, that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

Therese, you said:
"Let's agree to differ on this. God bless."
No, let's not!

Therese, let's agree, that none of these things make any difference to us! In the name of the Lord.
Have a wonderful New Year! All of you!
God Bless, Peace
---TheSeg on 12/30/13


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therese, your beliefs are biblical and I believe the same. some have debated here that God didn't speak everything in existence 6 days. I know if the bible says it, I believe it.
---shira4368 on 12/30/13


The Seg, I believe that God created our earth in 6 literal days and then rested on the 7th.

I believe Adam and Eve distrusted God, thus allowing sin to come to our earth.

God loves us very much and sent Jesus as our saviour.

Whether one believes there are other inhabited planets in the universe or that earth is the only one, does not mess up ones understanding of the gospel or their belief in Gods Word.

Lets agree to differ on this. God bless.
---therese on 12/30/13


Guys, I'm sorry!
Therese the word was (still "bigger" than) but I think you got that.
BRYAN what I wanted to say/meant is, in your heart you know it's true.
But you guys won't let yourselves believe it, because of what you call your intellect!

Therese, you said //The Bible was written about earth and for earth's inhabitants.//
The bible is about everything God has created and done. Everything, nothing is left out!

But most of all, it's about Christ!
Luk_24:27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
Heb_10:7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Peace
---TheSeg on 12/29/13


I never said it was easy to believe God, did I?
I very, very simply repeat the things that are told you, didn't I?

If you don't want to believe them, hey, what can I do?
I can make no one believe! That's up to God!

Therese, as hard as it is for you to believe, simply yes!
And just so you'll know if you were to take the visible universe you now know, and make it the size of an Atom. The actual universe is still big than the one you're now seeing and the answer is still yes!

BRYAN, oh time is irrelevant to God.
No Bryan time is irrelevant to you. Joh_7:6!
But, you really can understand that yet, can you?
Peace
---TheSeg on 12/29/13


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theseg Do I care if God put life on other plants. It would not change may belief in Jesus. Still the son of God. You must be a 7 day creation believer! Oh time is irrelevant to God. In the sense that you have it.
---BRYAN on 12/29/13


TheSeg, Are you saying you believe earth is the only inhabited planet in the universe because of the verses you quoted?

Ill repeat what I wrote on my last blog. --- This is the way I see it.

The Bible was written about earth and for earths inhabitants. Yes God finished his work of creating this planet. We are not told of His activities concerning the rest of the universe.

We need to keep an open mind on things not clear from Gods word.
---therese on 12/29/13


BRYAN!
Ah yes! the wisdom of this world.

It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, (but by every word) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Words like: Thus the heavens and the earth (were finished, and all the host of them.) And on the seventh day (God ended his work which he had made), and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

But why should we listen to what God said?
The story coming from you guys sounds so much better.
Mat_21:37 But last of all> saying?
Maybe not!
Peace
---TheSeg on 12/29/13


TheSeg he probably did, Being he is God. His word is still going out across the void creating, cause he said it would never pass away.
---BRYAN on 12/29/13


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Maybe Satan was given access to the other inhabited worlds???

Gen_1:1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen_2:4These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
Gen_2:8And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there he put the man whom he had formed.
Gen_2:15And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

Let's review! One God, one heaven, one earth, one man and one woman!
Is it getting harder to believe this is the only place God put life?
That will you do when/if they fine life out there?
Peace
---TheSeg on 12/28/13


Rev_12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Was this because of Adam and Eve. The Seg on 12/28/13

Bible is silent on why Satan was cast out to earth. Job 1.6 and 2.1 speak of a time when the sons of God came before God and Satan came representing the earth.

Maybe Satan was given access to the other inhabited worlds and earth was the only one that fell for Satans lies, hence he represents earth. The other sons of God representing their planets.

The bible was written for earths inhabitants so we are not told the whole story of the vast universe.
---therese on 12/28/13


Mat_19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Rom_3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Rom_3:11-18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.

Mat_12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.
Mat_12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

You want answers. You want answers?!

BRYAN: I want the truth.
You can't handle the truth!
A Few Good Men, Mat_7:11
Peace
---TheSeg on 12/28/13


Theseg Just think if Adam would have said to Eve "put the fruit down we are not to eat of that tree". Now instead of just one fallen man, not believing what God has said, and Even when Jesus came and showed us how the word can be use. We still eat the wrong fruit, of not believe the authority as believers God has given us. Notes how Adam fall when it came to resisting satan, Jesus put him in his place by using the same word that we have. The word of God. It is the same yesterday, today, and it will still work the same way tomorrow. It is not what God allows it is what we choose, by not resisting evil, We can change that, there is nothing that can stop us but us. Matthew 18:18
---BRYAN on 12/28/13


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Evil would not have entered our earth if Adam and Eve had not believed Satan's lies about God.

Hmmm!
Rev_12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Was this because of Adam and Eve.

Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Peace
---TheSeg on 12/28/13


Willie_c 12/17/13 Is evil essential?

When God created our earth, everything was very good. There was evil in the universe started by Satan. See my blogg of 12/25/13. Evil would not have entered our earth if Adam and Eve had not believed Satans lies about God. Humans now have to live with this evil.

God promises to end it all one day. Revelation 20-22.

If we follow Gods ways evil will have less effect on us. James 4:7-8a

God can use the effect of evil on us for our good. . Romans 8:28.

God has given us His Spirit to overcome evil. 1 John 5:4

God bless you too.
---therese on 12/27/13


Your telling me your truth. Until you understand Matthew 13, Mark 4, and Luke 8. It will always be your truth. The truth I have is what Jesus Gave me. He said if you follow me I will show hidden things sense the foundation of the earth, He said I will show the mysteries of Kingdom of Heaven, "If you follow me" That is truth from Jesus. It is for "Whosoever". Not just me but "Whosoever"
---BRYAN on 12/27/13


Bryan, by me telling you the Truth of the Word is not sharing my love with you? How so? You live in deception and lies, not only about yourself but lie against the Word of God.

So by telling you the Truth in the hope of God's mercy and grace that He will open your heart and ears is not demonstrating love? That I do not want to see you go to hell with the lies you're wallowing in is not an act of love?

What's love to you? Tell everyone that God loves you and wants to save you? Is that truth? Not according to the Scripture! Did Jesus, the prophets or apostles start out preaching the Gospel that way?

John the Baptist while preaching said, "Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand." Notice the difference?
---christan on 12/27/13


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Bryan, part of the gospel is that man has been found guilty and is heading to hell. What you want to do is preach what many preach today,
"just come forward say a few words and Jesus will save you. He is waiting to save you, but you have to let Him in, He is knocking at your heart."
Those are nice words that save no one if the person has no saving faith that only comes from God
"So it depends not upon man's will or exertion, but upon God's mercy" (Rom. 9:16) for we are told
"..God may perhaps grant that they will repent and come to know the Truth, and they may escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will" (2 Tim. 2:25,26).
---Mark_V. on 12/27/13


christan Let God decide who go to hell. If we sow his Gospel accord to his promises, We receive those promises in our life. What ever a person sows that is what they reap. This is in the first parable Jesus taught us.
---BRYAN on 12/27/13


christan, why would you want to be the one who does not share the love of God. That is what Jesus told us to do, not going around condemning people are Judging them. He said share the Gospel. Yes I know there is Judgment in the word, but how will people who don't know of the love of God hear it, if all we do is condemn them for their sin? See you can curse with the word or you can bless with the word, you choose. I see more repenting hearts when I bless than when I curse with the word.
---BRYAN on 12/26/13


Joh_8:44He was a (murderer from the beginning), and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: (for he is a liar), and the father of it.

Rev_2:28And I will give him the morning star.
Anyone who believe me.

Rev_22:16I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


Eze_28:12-15describes a beautiful heavenly creature, an angel, who was perfect in all (his ways)
Until you wake up.

Eze_28:12 Thou (sealest up the sum), full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
Peace
---TheSeg on 12/26/13


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Solomon declared in Proverbs 16:4, "The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

Evil is not a person but a contradiction of God, who's Holy. Therefore, for evil to be committed, according to Solomon God created the wicked for the purpose of "day of evil".

"For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth." Romans 9:17

"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: FOR THOU HAST CREATED ALL THINGS, and for thy pleasure they are and were created." Revelation 4:11
---christan on 12/26/13


Bryan, not only Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour. He's my God, my brother and my friend. He's the embodiment of God's love for me that while I was still a sinner, He died for me and that was almost two thousand years ago. He was the greatest of all God's predestination plan.

He's the lamb without blemish that the Father had foreordained before the foundation of the world that He shall save his people from their sins, and that He did, everyone whom the Father has given to Him before the foundation of the world.

And I know the Father did not give everyone to Him or else no one will be going to hell, but that's far from it and that's because those who have perished without Him are awaiting to be thrown into the Lake of Fire.
---christan on 12/25/13


How did evil start?

Ezekiel 28:12-15 describes a beautiful heavenly creature, an angel, who was perfect in all his ways until iniquity was found in him.

Isaiah 14:12-15 also speaks of Lucifer, star of the morning who wanted to usurp God. Both these description begin by describing an earthly king but then describe a heavenly being.

Revelation 12:7-9 speak of war in heaven when Satan and his angels lost the battle and were cast to the earth.

Job 1-2 gives a description of the activities of this fallen angel called Satan.

Revelation 20 describes his end, and Revelation 21, the end of all things evil.
---therese on 12/25/13


By the way christan can you say Jesus Christ is Lord. He is my Lord and Savior.
---BRYAN on 12/25/13


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I can condemn a lot of people with my words or with the word of God. How does God receive Glory in that? How will people see the love of God if all I do is go around condemning them for how they live their life? I know if I sow the Gospel into their life it will produce Gods' perfect will in their life. How it does this I don't know I'm not God I just sow it and he does the rest. God watches over his word to preform it not me I just sow it. I stay ready to sow it. No one can stand against the Gospel, There is no judgment in it, it is just the good things, God has given to mankind. All mankind. Even sinful man, sow the love of God and sinful man will repent. Just like you were before you heard what Jesus given you.
---BRYAN on 12/25/13


What was the first parable Jesus taught us? When you understand that parable then you will see what is give to you as a believer in Christ Jesus.
---BRYAN on 12/25/13


"You can live under the law which condemns people or you can live under the freedom though Jesus Christ." Bryan

You obviously don't believe that the condemnation was over and done with in the garden when Adam disobeyed God, do you? Here, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned." Romans 5:12

The purpose of the law God gave to Moses was simply to declare to man, "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin." Romans 3:20

Did Israel chose to set themselves free from Egypt or did God come for them?
---christan on 12/25/13


Bryan, your own personal relationship with Christ is your own. But what you try to do is to preach all the time, but never give a passage that can back up what you say. You try so hard to speak religious talk but here on line, we question what others say with the Word of God. As we should with anyone.
Do not be offended by our answers, instead of you wanting to preach something, put the passages down and give your understanding of those passages this way anyone here can look them up to see if what you are saying is true or not. Faithforhim does not want to put passages down anymore, as if saying, what he says is true no matter what the passages say. I hope you get it.
---Mark_V. on 12/25/13


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That's right there is none righteous, expect the one who have receives the gift of righteousness from Jesus. And he gives it to whosoever believes. You can live under the law which condemns people or you can live under the freedom though Jesus Christ. I have done the first, hate was my reward, when I started walking in the freedom that Christ has given to us,the Love of Jesus became my reward.
---BRYAN on 12/24/13


Bryan, as usual you're out of context to what is written in the Scriptures. I don't deny that one "reaps what they sow" because Scripture says so.

Now, put it in biblical context, we whom God explicitly declared "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one." So what do you think will be the consequence of our reaping when Adam had already sowed unrighteousness to us in the fall? Can you reap righteousness from unrighteousness?

Furthermore, we're all declared sinners before God, and as sinners, what do you think we will reap? Life or death?

Scriptures is complete, we are told how a sinner is saved, so there's no excuse to not speak the Truth. And that's lacking in you blogs, Truth.
---christan on 12/23/13


MarkV, Brian (or BRYAN) is nothing but a wannabee preacher who doesn't know the Bible as well as he thinks--or wants us to think.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/23/13


Bryan, you say:
"You share the Good News of Jesus and the Hole Spirit does the sin, judgment, righteousness better than us. Romans 2:4 That puts evil under your feet were it belongs. Romans 16:20"
Nothing in (Rom. 2:4) say what you just happen to put down. Then you mixed it with (Rom. 16:20). You have no clue what you are talking about. (Rom. 2:4) is speaking to those who are not saved at all.
"Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?" The unsaved do not put evil under their feet, they are evil altogether.
You use a mixture of passages to form some religious sentence that is not found in the Bible.
---Mark_V. on 12/23/13


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reaping what we sow has many applications. one is spiritual and one physical. if we abuse our physical self, we will reap what we do with our bodies. spiritual, we can abuse that side of us and we can loose our joy and while we still are saved we are spiritually dead. we do reap what we sow.
---shira4368 on 12/23/13


--christan, So if someone believes you reap what you sow. and you tell them their wrong in their belief. What is that is that no condemning. If they believe in the gifts of the Hole Spirit and you tell them they can't believe in those gifts are you blessing or are judging them? I hear your word you tell me, that I call our father a debtor to me. He gave us his word if we learn to use it the way he teaches us it will produce his perfect will in our life. That is not being in debt to us. that is Jesus working in our life just like he said he would.
---BRYAN on 12/22/13


Bryan, firstly, I don't condemn anyone, it's what they profess that I challenge, especially if they claim to be a Christian. Sad to say, you're one such case, you speak like a new age rather than a Christian.

It was you who insinuated "When Jesus sent the followers out to the towns and villages what were they doing other than sharing the Gospel. They had evil subject to the name of Jesus.", which in Luke 10 never even suggested of such a thing. Luke 10 was particular to the followers of Christ then and not to the followers of today.

We Christians today simply preach the Gospel of Christ. If you think Luke 10:19 applies to you, I sure like to see you handle serpents, scorpions or even raising the dead.
---christan on 12/22/13


Funny my bible said even the demons were subject to them, christan does your say that? Luke 10:17 Jesus was just talking make believe? What is the job of the body of Christ? To condemn people and tell them they are going to hell for not believing in Jesus? That is religion talking, Jesus said share the Gospel now may times? That is what sets people free, I don't see any freedom in condemnation at all and nobody else will either. You share the Good News of Jesus and the Hole Spirit does the sin, judgment, righteousness better than us. Romans 2:4 That puts evil under your feet were it belongs. Romans 16:20
---BRYAN on 12/22/13


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Did God save the sinner to keep His commandments or did He save the sinner because He loved them? christan

GOD saves sinners because HE love us. He saved us to no longer live in sin.

Rom 6:2

God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
---Samuelbb7 on 12/22/13


Bryan, you might be a nice guy and all, but you use a lot of religious language to preach. You might mean well, but you are making up things as you go. In the hope no one notices as the Word of Faith preachers do. If you had music to your preaching, everyone would say amen and would not even know they were listening to many things that are not true at all. You need to stay with the Word. You are not at church where no one says anything. Here we listen to what you say, and check it with Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 12/22/13


"Mark you can't see the forest because of the trees." Bryan

Say what? I thought when there's a large area covered chiefly with trees and undergrowth, we call it a forest. How can you not see a forest?

Your analogy to "When Jesus sent the followers out to the towns and villages what were they doing other than sharing the Gospel." is almost as ridiculous as you cannot see a forest when you see trees.

First and foremost, Jesus sent only His followers whom He knew are His. And they never preached against the Word given to them or spoke evil of them as you suggested. It's unbelievers like you pretending to be a believer that's doing precisely what you say, kind of a self fulfilling prophesy.
---christan on 12/21/13


Mark you can't see the forest because of the trees. When Jesus sent the followers out to the towns and villages what were they doing other than sharing the Gospel. They had evil subject to the name of Jesus. If that is not destroying the works of evil then what was it destroying the works of? Jesus said he saw satan fall from heaven like lighting from the sky.
---BRYAN on 12/21/13


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Bryan, you are preaching things not found in the Bible, though they sound good but you make thing up as you go sort of like the Word of Faith teachers. Here you claim that Jesus said:
" "Now you go in may name doing the same destroying evil"."
He never said that. I did a complete search and no passage is found where Jesus ever said those words. Can you explain that?
---Mark_V. on 12/21/13


The word does not need us to make it true. Either you believe it and line your life up with it or your don't. Just like when you believed Jesus to be your savior. You line your life with that truth did you not? He dose not want you to be a pup-it he wants us to be like Jesus destroying evil with his word. He drove out evil not men but evil with the word, religion teaches you to drive out the man. That is not from God, God said we war not against flesh and blood Ephesians 6:12
---BRYAN on 12/20/13


Reba, thank you for your explanations. The reason I answer some comments is because it has become a habit for many to use religious language that is mixed with truth and lie. And many do pay attentions that that lie begins to grow as it is use when talking from one person to another. The Word of Faith teachers use that language a lot. A lot of the word mixed with lies, and it sounds great and people just don't pay attention and take notes. They should compare what they say to the Word of God. The Word is the only Truth we have. But again thanks for answering and happy holidays to you and family,
---Mark_V. on 12/20/13


On the earth, who did God give the authority to? So who would be the one to drive out evil, on the earth? Jesus when he saw a man on the earth he went around using the word of God and destroying the works of evil. Then after he rose form the dead he said, "Now you go in may name doing the same destroying evil". We war again evil that you don't see, what you see is the fruit of that evil produce on the earth. Evil is not Gods' will. The will of God is for us to use he word again evil you don't see to stop it before it produces in our lives. So if you sowing the Gospel what will you produce? Gods' perfect will. Mark chapter 4.
---BRYAN on 12/20/13


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To the rest!
Mat_4:4- It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Now I'm not saying anyone is wrong or right. Rom_3:23!

The word in Gen_1:31 is "Very Good" not PERFECT! For nothing could be made PERFECT without Christ. And The Lord Jesus Christ was not yet manifested to anyone.
1Jn_3:5 And ye know that (he was manifested) to take away our sins,
1Jn_2:2 but also for the sins of the whole world.

Rom_8:22>Heb_11:40>Heb_7:19 For the law (Gen_2:17) made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did, by the which we draw nigh unto God.
And just (how and why) was this (better hope brought in?)
MerryChristmas Peace
---TheSeg on 12/19/13


Mark, God is all knowing. Of course He knew before creating man that we would fail. However, He wanted our love & fellowship bad enough to be willing to die for us to save us from our sin. He knew all this before creating us. I personally believe, that my God, knowing all this before hand, sill decided to create man, put him in a perfect home(UNCURSED) to live in peace & harmony. God's only requirement was to obey Him. Leave ONE TREE ALONE! We failed. Did God know that was going to happen? YES. That's how badly He wanted our fellowship, our love. I believe, in the beginning, before man sinned, the garden was perfect(UNCURSED). But I refuse to argue the fact. You have every right to believe as you wish.
---Reba on 12/19/13


Reba, Gen_1:31And God saw everything that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
You wrote //so when our PERFECT GOD said that the things He created in the garden were "GOOD", to me, that's saying it was "PERFECT".//

God didn't say (the things He created in the garden)
God said "everything that he had made" wouldn't this mean everything?
Sorry, but I can help but feel you're changing it, like God didn't mean everything?
The Angels and even Heaven itself are part of that everything God made.
It's like you're saying the Angels that rebelled against God, God is calling perfect. Even Satan, he was in the garden and heaven.
Peace
---TheSeg on 12/19/13


Reba, your explanation was a good one, but it was not correct. First, God is perfect and good, and righteous and many other things. But when He created He said what He created was good. If it was perfect, it would have never failed. If something is perfect it does not fail, God is perfect the reason He never fails. Second you said:
Man's rebellion is what caused the evil to be part of our lives. God never wanted that for us."
If He never want evil in His plan why was Jesus foreknown as a sacrifice for sin before the creation of the world? Can you explain that?
---Mark_V. on 12/19/13


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Reba Your point is right on the money. Man's choice in the garden, choose either to believe what God said or believe some thing evil said. What did Adam choose. Just like today either you believe what God has said to be true or you don't. Still your choice. You can believe some of the word or all of the word it is still your choice. If you want to believe in the gifts of the spirit. Go for it. If you want to believe they have passed go for it. How would it hurt you if some one dose or if they don't how would it effect you? It is always between them and God not them, you, then God. Gods' plan is for us to use what he has given us to defeat evil. Not to be subject to evil but defeat it.
---BRYAN on 12/18/13


The Son doesn't need glorified, for He is the Son.
But, to glorify the Son, God chose to have evil exist.
Let us define good and evil.
Good is what pleases God.
Evil is what displeases Him.
Hence, with the eating of the fruit came the knowledge of good and evil.
It is hard to appreciate the good without recognizing the evil, yet, in our glory, there will be no more sin, no more evil and it's effects.
God uses even what displeases him to bring about His will(Gen 50:20).
Each man will be judged by good and evil, the separation of these is faith. Do you believe what God says or not?
---micha9344 on 12/18/13


Mark, let me explain what I meant by "PERFECT". Matt. 19:17 says there's none "GOOD" but "GOD" so when our PERFECT GOD said that the things He created in the garden were "GOOD", to me, that's saying it was "PERFECT". The tree of knowledge wasn't placed there for man to use & God told them to leave it alone. God wants our love & obedience, but He gives us a choice. Obey or rebel. Man's rebellion is what caused the evil to be part of our lives. God never wanted that for us.
---Reba on 12/18/13


Reba, I disagree with you. You say:
"Evil is NEVER needed. That wasn't the plan for us at the beginning. When God created man & placed him in the garden, it was a perfect, peaceful place with NO EVIL!!!"
Don't you know Jesus Christ was foreknown as a sacrifice for sin before the foundation of the world? Before Satan and man were ever created. It was in the plan of God.
You also say everything was perfect, the Bible says it was good, not perfect, the Tree of knowledge of good and "evil" was in the garden. Something evil was present already.
What I believe confuses you is that you believe in 'free will of man.' But only God has free will, for only He is Autonomous.
---Mark_V. on 12/18/13


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Pt.1 Yrs .ago I ask God same questions... it got me down to think earthquaks,tisummi's, cribdeath,a neighbor killed coming home from church by a stranger!
I do not believe we need to know
"the why?" innocent or bad people die daily.Our Sovereign God re: life gives & takes away! Lam.3:31,32,33.

I have lost children & the daughter living never been ill, married rich man,never visits nor calls. Last I saw her she tried to kill me.

I respect God so,much after all He has done for me.
I believe that we dare not question everything God does...
Is.13:11 Ecc.3:1,2,3,7. Ju.1:7
(s) Jer. 17:9
---Lidia4796 on 12/18/13


"The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." Proverbs 16:4

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

"For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth." Romans 9:22

How else would God get to show that He's Almighty if He doesn't create the "wicked for the day of evil"? That's the purpose of evil.
---christan on 12/18/13


Then what produces evil in our life's? Is your point you need evil to get you closer to God?
---BRYAN on 12/17/13


When I said, It's the "CURE" that man's sin has brought to earth, I meant, evil is the "CURSE" man's sin has brought to earth. Christ is the only CURE.
---Reba on 12/17/13


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Sorry, I typed an error:-/ When I said, It's the "CURE that man's sin brought to earth. I was meaning. It's the "CURSE" man's sin brought to earth. Christ is the only cure for our sins.
---Reba on 12/17/13


I heard it best this way. I would not wish "evil thing" on me but I grew in maturity and in faith in God more than anything I have done in my life. I have heard many many stories that fit this pattern.
---Scott1 on 12/17/13


Evil is NEVER needed. That wasn't the plan for us at the beginning. When God created man & placed him in the garden, it was a perfect, peaceful place with NO EVIL!!! We-humans- caused the evil to be part of our lives by sinning against God's Holy design for our lives here on earth. God gave us a free will to choose what we want. We chose evil therefore there's evil here. Our Father did what was best for us by making it possible to escape evils eternal grip on our lives by sending His perfect Son to pay sins horrible price for us. Evil is NEVER essential or necessary. It's the cure that man's sin has brought to earth.
---Reba on 12/17/13


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