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Those of you who claim the present KJV is perfect are in effect saying the original 1600's version was imperfect. Why? Because if the original was still perfect it would not have needed the revision which occurred in the 1700's. This revision was necessary because the meaning of words had changed significantly in the intervening period. Since that revision the meaning of words has again changed significantly so much that the current version is incorrect. So please tell me why it has not been revised again? Is it because people love the sound of the archaic language over accuracy?
---Warwick on 1/12/14


michael_e:

You said: I believe He is capable of keeping His instructions perfect for millions of years.

Of course he can. But nowhere in the Bible did he ever say he would.

Many people believe many things about the Word of God that God himself never told us. Many of those things are true, and many of those things are not.
---StrongAxe on 1/12/14


I keep hearing the question, as concerning my post to this blog, although no one has actually ask here. "Who are the chosen?" I will answer that question here, in this open forum. His chosen are the ones giving all praises to the Father. Boasting only in Christ, knowing, that He does the work. Knowing that It is He who works in them both to will and to do that which pleases Him. They realize that self no longer lives, it is Christ that lives through them, as their only hope of Glory. They know that their only labour is to rest. To acquiesce concerning the "Word of God". Empowered of Him, of course.
---Josef on 1/13/14


//Yes, but that "perfect instruction" was given thousands of years ago//
I believe He is capable of keeping His instructions perfect for millions of years.
---michael_e on 1/12/14


Just a little tidbit, My Dad's Step daddy couldn't read at all but he loved Jesus and was a very tender hearted man,to Jesus,and full of faith and he prayed God would help him read the Bible. God heard and answered that prayer,he could read all of the Bible and loved it but he told me himself,he could never read anything else. God is a miracle God and He didn't leave us without a comforter nor a teacher,for His Word says we need no man to teach us because the Holy Ghost will teach us and He is the Spirit of Truth who will lead us into all truth. It doesn't matter who translated the Bible the Holy Ghost can and will give you God's translation of the Bible He wants us to live by.
---Darlene_1 on 1/12/14




michael_e:

You said: But he never gives imperfect instruction.
Yes, but that "perfect instruction" was given thousands of years ago. How we choose to deal with it (i.e. who we assign to copy and translate it, how good a job they do, etc.) is up to us. What we are left with after our own hands deal with it is good enough (otherwise God would come up with something else), but somewhat less than perfect.
---StrongAxe on 1/12/14


//God always works through imperfect vessels.//
But he never gives imperfect instruction.
---michael_e on 1/12/14


Shira, I believe as you do that the King James translation of the scriptures is the best version. I know a lot of the liberals on this sight will disagree, but there is a huge difference in it's translation and that of the NAS, RSV, NIV, ASV, ESV, or the NKJV.

John 5:7 is one key example the other are missing part of the verse due to corruption that occured in a few of the early manuscripts. The KJV is translated from the Greek Textus Receptus the others from the Alexandrian.

The KJV was translated by 47 translators divided into 4 groups. Each group was to translate and then pass their work to another group to verify under penalty of death for descrepancies. I believe God was with them.



---trey on 1/12/14


michael_e:

You asked: you don't actually think he is incapable of preserving His Word through translation do you?

He can preserve it error-free, or not, as he likes. Nowhere does the Bible promise fidelity to its copyists and translators unlike those of other works.

God always works through imperfect vessels. Saints had flaws and weaknesses. Jesus once said "take this cup from me". Yet many cannot imagine scriptures less than 100% perfect. We have manuscripts with minor differences. Some entire books are mentioned but missing. Translations are necessarily inexact. This seems good enough for God. Why not good enough for us?
---StrongAxe on 1/11/14


\\No doubt, Cluny, but are you on the spiritual level of Rufinus, Jerome or Paul?\\

Oh, heavens, no! By no means.

\\Far be it from me to rebuke a brother from the East, but maybe tone it down, just a little, for the sake of the weak ones that may be on these blogs.\\

I'm simply holding up a mirror to some people, showing how they sound.
---Cluny on 1/11/14




Cluny said: Sts. Rufinus and Jerome had sharp tongues, too. St. Paul himself was not averse to using a salty expression, himself.

No doubt, Cluny, but are you on the spiritual level of Rufinus, Jerome or Paul?

Far be it from me to rebuke a brother from the East, but maybe tone it down, just a little, for the sake of the weak ones that may be on these blogs.

Pray for me!
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 1/11/14


\\shira said: ...cluny don't believe anything anyone else says and he's always right. as a matter of fact, he is against everyone or have you not noticed that. I think he is an angry lonely old man and he has nothing else to do.\\

Shira, have you ever noticed that you NEVER deal with the issues I bring up, or answer direct questions I ask you?

When I do, you indulge in ad hominem attacks

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/11/14


\\ That means that the language used on these blogs is counter to what is taught by the Orthodox Church. \\

Sts. Rufinus and Jerome had sharp tongues, too. St. Paul himself was not averse to using a salty expression, himself.

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/11/14


Shira said: ...cluny don't believe anything anyone else says and he's always right. as a matter of fact, he is against everyone or have you not noticed that. I think he is an angry lonely old man and he has nothing else to do.

Admittedly, Cluny does have a trenchant tongue (or mind) However, he is an Orthodox Christian. That means that the language used on these blogs is counter to what is taught by the Orthodox Church.

I understand him a little, because I am Eastern Catholic, and the only difference between the two is that the Orthodox are not in communion with Rome, and I am.

Pray for me.
The unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 1/10/14


\\Do you think king james and the people who helped him had our doctrine in mind?\\

I'm not too sure what you mean by "our doctrine".

But did you know that the KJV was translated by people who believed in baptismal regeneration and infant baptism--both anathema to Baptists?

And King James himself didn't touch pen to paper in the translation process.

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/11/14


//the ORIGINAL Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew.//
One more time would you please share the ORIGINAL that you have?
//Nowhere did God say He would preserve a TRANSLATION from error.//
you don't actually think he is incapable of preserving His Word through translation do you?
---michael_e on 1/10/14


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Actually the Bible lists bats with other flying animals. So that is not a mistake.

It does translate the word batizo as baptism instead placed under water as it's actual meaning. In First John

First John 5:7 is mistranslated and that is the biggest change.

While people own the rights to books. The Word of GOD belongs to all people.

It is the standard by which all truth must be judged.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/10/14


Shira sorry dear but it seems the KJV Bible isn't any different from any other written work,its owned and managed by the person or in this case the Crown or Royality of the United Kingdom,that writes or brings about its original publication. Even though the United Kingdom may not have a Copyright exactly like the USA does or what we know as a Copyright they still have the Great Brittian type of Rights information used in that day and carried forward and still used by the UNK today as it relates to the KJV Bible,it still belongs to them and their control is still in control in the UNK. The Berne Convention was an agreement which assures the Member Countries will honor each others Copyright. I hope this helps. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 1/10/14


no cluny, I did not know that. that being its doctored up to suit certain doctrine. Do you think king james and the people who helped him had our doctrine in mind? tell me the book and verse you think king james doctored up. Im very interested to learn your "opinion".
---shira4368 on 1/10/14


\\//The KJV has some fudging and even deliberate mistranslation ...//
And your inspired proof is?\\

One such place is where it called bats birds. Another place is translating "paradidomai," as "ordinances" in 1 Cor 11:2. Everywhere else it renders it "tradition."

//Why do you think that the KJV is, at least, preeminently God's word among English translations?//
It has never been proven wrong. Do you have proof?\\

I just did.

\\Why do you not believe God is capable of preserving His Word? If you know where it is preserved,\\

One more time: the ORIGINAL Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew. Nowhere did God say He would preserve a TRANSLATION from error.

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/10/14


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//The KJV has some fudging and even deliberate mistranslation to teach man's doctrine. Did you know that?//
And your inspired proof is?
//Why do you think that the KJV is, at least, preeminently God's word among English translations?//
It has never been proven wrong. Do you have proof?
A question for you.
Why do you not believe God is capable of preserving His Word? If you know where it is preserved, why not share this knowledge?
---michael_e on 1/10/14


\\I would not trust a mans doctrine that doesn't respect God to preserve his words\\

Why do you think that the KJV is, at least, preeminently God's word among English translations?

The KJV has some fudging and even deliberate mistranslation to teach man's doctrine. Did you know that?

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/10/14


If a doctrine can only be taught if the Bible is retranslated turn around and walk away.
However, false teachers expects this response, because his doctrine depends upon retranslating the Bible to match his own teaching.
The response is, it's translated wrong, its a mistranslation, its a mistake, and then retranslate or omit the verse.
Anything can be taught from the Bible if we change or omit enough words.
I would not trust a mans doctrine that doesn't respect God to preserve his words.
Right doctrine will never require you to sacrifice your Bible.
---michael_e on 1/9/14


Cluny thank you that was helpful information. I looked up the word you gave me,the translation which in English means privilege. I went further,privilege means to authorize or license something which is otherwise forbidden. All of that confirms what I said,the Crown,Royal family in the United Kingdom,owns the King James Version of the Bible. Even though they don't have a "Copyright" as America does it doesn't take away their right or power to direct the right to publish. Its just as a USA Copyright,it's owned, without the owners permission no one has a right to republish the KJV Bible. If they do it's stealing!!! Thanks again.
---Darleme_1 on 1/9/14


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Good question, Darlene.

I'm not a legal historian and am in no position to give a 125 word summary of copyright law development.

However the title page of the original KJV of 1611, as well as its title page of the NT, say at the bottom "Cum privilegio", which was the equivalent of copyright in the 17th century.

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/9/14


You mean who owns Jesus Christ? The LOGOS???
---kathr4453 on 1/9/14


\\The reason I believe every word in my KJV is my faith in God depends upon it\\

If your faith in God depends on the work of mere humans, which us ultimately all any translation of the Bible is, then you're in big trouble, dear soul.

Do you believe the KJV when it says that bats are birds?

Do you believe the KJV when it mentions musical instruments that did NOT exist in the Babylonian empire?

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/9/14


Cluny just a bit of information and a question. I found Wikisource,which I think is one of the American sources you mentioned that says United Kingdom holds the Copyright on the KJV of the Bible they didn't know the origin of the statement. To me that means it could well not be accurate. If you have other sources would you please share them with me? Wikipedia said England doesn't have a Copyright but the Crown still has ownership and control, which means others in the United Kingdom must have permission to print KJV Bible. I understand the Berne Convention member Countries agree to honor Copyrights or ownership of the members.
---Darlene_1 on 1/9/14


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Shira, I do not agree with many things Cluny post, just like I do not agree with most of what you write. That does not mean he is a lonely angry old person. It only means he does not agree with you, and I don't either. you never provide Scripture, and always give your opinions and speculations on the word of God. I don't think you are an old lonely lady, but I do think you are a very lazy lady who does not want to study the Word of God. It is too much trouble for you, you are happy right where you are at, just talking and disagreeing and telling others they preach false doctrines. They are false to you because you do not study to be approve. The reason you never know what you are talking about.
---Mark_V. on 1/9/14


So many translations of the bible exist it is difficult for the average person to determine what is or isnt accurate, especially considering the tendency to listen to only what one wants to hear. However, God is more than able to preserve His Word and make His intent(s) known as He chooses.
Even a perfect translation could be misunderstood or ignored and is no guarantee in and of itself of enlightening the reader. That is Gods domain, and He must be looked to for proper understanding.
The Word is Gods, He sends forth, and it does not return to Him void or empty or without purpose.
Additionally, it is not as if certain words in the bible are magic in and of themselves. It is the Spirit that gives life, teaches, brings understanding
---Chria9396 on 1/9/14


Michael in reality the KJV has had a few revisions since the 1600's original. It needs another revision now as changes in the meaning of words mean it no longer means what it did in the 1600's. For just one example of many in Genesis 1:28 the KJV uses the word 'replenish' which originally meant 'fill' however today replenish means 'refill.' This gives the opposite meaning of what was intended and has lead people into serious error.

I do not believe all English speaking people can understand the KJV. I have met many who cannot. If you did not know about 'replenish' then you also were misunderstanding the message.

Why do people worship archaic language?
---Warwick on 1/9/14


Sadly there are many who can't believe every word in the Bible. Others say it's preservation is impossible because of supposed mistakes and errors. According to Rom 3:3-4, the errors dont exist.
The reason I believe every word in my KJV is my faith in God depends upon it.
Rom 10:17 faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God
2 Tim 3:16 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Most importantly, it is an offense to God if I continue in unbelief. It's not a matter of probability that Gods words are preserved. Neither is it a matter of mans capability. It is a matter of Gods responsibility.
Rom 4:21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
---michael_e on 1/9/14


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\\If you want a Bible still published that doesn't change, perfectly preserved throughout history, understood by the majority of English speaking people, there's only one. \\

Well, it's not the KJV.

There were four major revisions of it between 1611 and 1769, to say nothing of odd misprints such as the "He" and "She" version, the Wicked Bible, and others.

The fifth major revision is the recension by American Bible Society in 1904, which was normalized according to American spellings.

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/8/14


BRYAN said: You went worldly...

Bryan, the Word of God is God's and God's alone. Remember that the second Person of the Holy Trinity is called the Word (John 1:1) He is the pre-eternal Logos of the Old Testament, and, after He came to earth as a man, He is called Jesus.

As far as the written Word, if anyone could be considered to own it, it would still be God. And remember, God put His own copyright on it in Revelations, when He said, "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."(Rev 22:19)
---Monk_Brendan on 1/8/14


Where did God promise us a book? God gave us the Law and the Prophets, and His only begotten Son. He made sure that His Words would be preserved thru His prophets and the eyewitness disciples that He gave His Son. John 17:6. Is every word and every book included in the bible the Word of God? Investigate and see for yourself.

God owns everything but the world that He created and the Words He spoke have been hijacked by Satan just as He said in John 14:30. God is preparing His people to proclaim the gospel of the kingdom to the world and then He will return as promised in Matt 24:14-30.
---barb on 1/8/14


I read a 400 year old book, translation of a 2000 year old book, with a heritage of nearly 4000 years. Consider the KJV has been published for 400 years. If we had no other manuscript evidence we have the preservation of scriptures for 1/4 of Biblical history.
Changing the reading of the Bible every 15 years is a recent invention by faithless translators.
If you want a Bible still published that doesn't change, perfectly preserved throughout history, understood by the majority of English speaking people, there's only one.
You can't find a copy of the Matthews, Bishops, or Tyndale very easily. When you read a KJV you are reading the most valuable piece of Biblical preservation in existence.
---michael_e on 1/8/14


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\\cluny don't believe anything anyone else says and he's always right. as a matter of fact, he is against everyone or have you not noticed that.\\

Only when you're wrong, shira, which is most of the time.

And I notice you did NOT answer my request to provide PROOF that the KJV is in public domain.

Instead, you indulged in ad hominem arguments.

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/8/14


Shira you're welcome, no one on here bothers me much. As I get older I think I care less what other people think. Frankly I never did. The only thing I care about what others think of me is that I always conduct myself as a Christian woman. I don't mind Cluny except when he says the Orthodox Church is the only Church. I wish everyone could see that we all walk in the light we have,no one can agree with what they don't understand or believe. We don't have to worry about others knowledge about Spiritual matters because God sent the Holy Ghost to be our teacher and God is our judge therefore we have the Spirit to guide us. I enjoy discussion on here. If you have my Phone Number call and give me yours,I can call you free. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 1/8/14


Darlene, thanks I will. cluny don't believe anything anyone else says and he's always right. as a matter of fact, he is against everyone or have you not noticed that. I think he is an angry lonely old man and he has nothing else to do.
---shira4368 on 1/8/14


I did more research on Copyright on the KJV of the Bible and found more than one source which says there isn't an American style Copyright on it. That in most Countries it is in the Public Domain. In England people have to get the Crowns permission to print it. The publishing overseer is Cambridge University. There is no such thing as an International Copyright,but there are International agreements between different Countries and the USA and England belong to the Berne Agreement. I'm not exactly sure how it works or what it covers but it does give England some control of the KJV in the USA. Shira look up Berne Agreement or Berne Treaty. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 1/8/14


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michael e has brought up something important.

There are basically 3 versions of the Greek NT: the Alexandrian (sometimes called Critical) text, the Received Text, and the Majority text, which is similar to the RT.

There are only two English translations directly based on the RT (which oddly enough, is the official version of the Orthodox Church). These are the KJV and NKJV.

shira, a question for you: I have offered several sources that say the KJV is under copyright. What have you offered to support your contention that the KJV is in public domain?

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/8/14


When comparing the KJV Bible to other english translations the differences found are many, which are all textual not translational in nature. This means the text that the NIV was taken from is not from the same manuscript that the King James Bible is taken from. Should a devoted bible student trust any bible that leaves out the blood of Christ and omits entire verses. Do you trust religious leaders that think this is OK?
---michael_e on 1/7/14


\\You went worldly with the answer. By copy wrights and Arthur's. Who wrote it when and were. Still not knowing who owns it\\

What answer did you want, BRYAN? And why do you ask a question when you clearly intend to answer it yourself and make it one of a series of 125 word sermons?

And just who is Arthur?

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/7/14


rita, I am king james person but what others want to read is up to them. yes, the niv is better than nothing. I just see all the changes from the king james.
---shira4368 on 1/7/14


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Shira, most of the time my spelling is O.K. but I have my moments! Age does some cruel things to us. I, unfortunately, forget the words I want in the middle of a sentence. I just stop and have to say "I'm sorry I've forgotten where I was going with that" or "I've just lost the word I wanted." Most people understand though.

Regarding the KJV I don't know how anyone can say that it's the perfect translation unless they understand the language from which it was translated. NIV is not a translation of the KJV but claims to be a more accurate translation of the original. I'm no language expert but I do find NIV easier to read and understand.

I'd rather someone read the NIV than not read the bible at all.
---Rita_H on 1/7/14


You went worldly with the answer. By copy wrights and Arthur's. Who wrote it when and were. Still not knowing who owns it.
---BRYAN on 1/7/14


michaele:

You said: There is no good reason to doubt that God could preserve his inspired words perfectly and without error.

True, but the Bible also never says he does so either, so assuming either way is just an assumption.

God always seems to work through imperfect vessels. Humans, even God's chosen, are imperfect. Biblical manuscripts differ in minor points. Some entire books are missing (i.e. books mentioned as authorities by Biblical authors but never seen again). We can accept imperfect apostles, but why not imperfect manuscripts. The Bibles we have, passed down through centuries, are not perfect, but like all other imperfect tools God uses, he deems them to be sufficient for us.
---StrongAxe on 1/7/14


wow rita, you got me on this one. Im surprised cluny didn't catch that too. the niv and other perverted versions don't need permission to change the kjv. please excuse my misspelled words. my spelling gets worse as I get older. Im the one everyone ask how to spell a certain word.
---shira4368 on 1/7/14


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Holding a preserved copy of Gods words we are in the position to study for ourselves. Gone are the days when it's illegal to read the Bible, and its words can only be spoken in another language by a priest class.

Nothing separates you from attaining Gods wisdom except a little work (2 Tim 2:15). An ounce of faith and Gods words are worth more than a thousand degrees of authority. Dont let a or self-proclaimed scholar or expert stand in the way of your faith in the Bible. They have no more authority than you give them. God wrote a book. The words of the Bible are authoritative over any spiritual commentary made by any scholar or preacher on the planet.
---michael_e on 1/7/14


\\I believe every word in the King James Bible.\\

Even where it says that bats are birds?

||There is no good reason to doubt that God could preserve his inspired words perfectly and without error. ||

And why would that be the KJV necessarily? After all, it didn't exist until 400 years ago.

I,m not denying the inspiration of the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek, but why should that apply to translations, which involve human beings?

Christ is baptized!
---Cluny on 1/7/14


Bryan: All Believers in the Word of God (the Bible) "own" it. All Believers "pay" attention to God's word. All Believers "spend" time in God's word. Read Proverbs 23:23 for confirmation.
---Leon on 1/6/14


I believe every word in the King James Bible. Some find that offensive but I believe it's more offensive to God to believe any less.

There is no good reason to doubt that God could preserve his inspired words perfectly and without error.

His ways are perfect and his thoughts pure.
It's not a hard conclusion to make that if God inspired words for the salvation of humanity that he would preserve them.

Some argue attempting to prove the impossibility of Gods preservation through supposed mistakes and errors.

Shouldnt we be teaching belief in His words and not doubt? What good is it to stand in doubt of the Bible when the very words of eternal life and peace with God are only beneficial if they are first believed?
---michael_e on 1/6/14


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Shira - the word is copyright, not copywrite. This refers to who owns the 'right' to reproduce their work. It has nothing to do with something being 'written'.

I have 'written' the words to some gospel songs and composed the music for them. They are copyrighted (not copywritten). I own the copyright to them and can do what I want with them but others must have my permission and pay for the 'right to record them or reproduce the words and sheet music.

As for the K.J.V. of the bible, we have all been given the right to copy that but others e.g N.I.V. have owners of the copyright and permission is required to reproduce it.
---Rita_H on 1/6/14


FIRST, in context, when you say THE Word of God, I refer to the King 'Jesus' Bible (KJV) in response. Therefore: The crown of England has forbidden copyright assignment of the King James Bible, and grants permission to a small number of companies worldwide to print it. You might check with Cambridge's reference dept about this. ANY TIME THAT YOU SEE A COPYRIGHT NOTICE INSIDE A KING JAMES BIBLE (Not the "New" King James - unrelated), IT IS IN STRICT REFERENCE TO THE ADDED MATERIALS WITHIN: Maps, concordance, notes, etc. BUT the Text Itself is Not subject to, neither able to be assigned to, any copyright notice within the world.
---Mitch_Scharoff on 1/6/14


shira, what I quoted were from AMERICAN sites about the copyright on the KJV.

Here is another quote from wikisource, a USA site:

"All signatories to the International Copyright Treaty are obliged to recognize each other's copyrights, so, technically speaking, the KJV is copyrighted throughout the world."

And why is the KJV more "the word of God" than another other translations? There are places where the meaning was fudged or incorrectly translated in it, as well.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/6/14


I can show you hundreds of differences with the perverted versions of the bible. shira4368

Except for the passage in First John the majority are saying the same thing in different ways. Yes some like the Good News and Living Bible which are not translations but paraphrases have major differences.

Others like the New Jerusalem and Douay version which are translated by RCC scholars have their problems.

The rest are just saying the same thing in the more modern way.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/6/14


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Shira I looked up the KJV of the Bible,and here is what I found,anything which is printed before 1923 is considered in Public Domain in the USA. That includes the King James or Authorized Version of the Bible. The newer translations of the Bible are Copyrighted. By the way it was the Queen who had the wish for a new translation that even the common man could use but it was the King after her,King James,who saw that the project was carried out.I hope this helps. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 1/6/14


cluny, I don't live in England. maybe the queen did demand the copywrite of the king james but the rest of the world does not live by what the queen demands. the king james is not copywrited. go check it out for yourself but don't come back with anything from England.
---shira_4368 on 1/6/14


Samuel, there is much more than mere differences in the different versions of the bible. that is one of satans great lies. there are many many differences in other versions. men thinks he is smarter than God and men have changed the Word of God. I can show you hundreds of differences with the perverted versions of the bible.
---shira4368 on 1/5/14


From a KJVOnly Site:

But a far more important consideration is the fact that in the matter of being copyrighted, the KJV is not different from other versions--it was and is a copyrighted translation.

Those who objected to [the Revised Standard Version's] being copyrighted should know that all English Bibles, including the KJV and ASV, were copyrighted when first issued. The King James still enjoys copyright protection in Britain.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/6/14


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I have over 8 versions of the Bible. I have no problem with the slight difference between the KJV and more modern translation.

But people forget that not all new Bibles are translation. I have a Phillips new Testament which I enjoy but it is not a translation it is a paraphrase like the Good News Bible. Nor do I care much for what are called dynamic translations but they can have their uses.

What is sad is so few actually read the Bible.

Agape.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/5/14


\\cluny, you are wrong again. there is no copywrite on the kjv.
---shira4368 on 1/5/14\\

From Wikipedia:

>>However, in the United Kingdom, the right to print, publish and distribute it is a Royal prerogative and the Crown licenses publishers to reproduce it under letters patent. <<

In other words, Crown Copyright.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/5/14


From WIKISOURCE:

The King James Version is also known as the Authorized Version. In the United Kingdom it is still copyrighted and is subject to an eternal Crown copyright. Permission to publish in England and Wales can be obtained by following the guidance in A Brief Guide to Liturgical Copyright, third edition (RTF file), permission to publish in Scotland requires contacting the Scottish Bible Board. All signatories to the International Copyright Treaty are obliged to recognize each other's copyrights, so, technically speaking, the KJV is copyrighted throughout the world.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/5/14


The Bible says:

Mat 10:8 ... freely ye have received, freely give.

Anyone who copyrights the Word of God is guilty of stealing it from those to whom God has given it.


---jerry6593 on 1/5/14


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cluny, you are wrong again. there is no copywrite on the kjv.
---shira4368 on 1/5/14


I did some more checking. You can guess the search string.

All my hits said that the KJV is indeed under copyright, at least in the United Kingdom.

Even a KJVOnly site said that.

BTW, two most common recensions of the KJV found in the USA are those of 1769 and the ABS normalization according to American spellings of 1904.

BOTH have important variations from the 1611 original version.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/5/14


"Who owns the Word of God?" No one.
All men are privileged to receive and reproduce the written word if they choose to so. However only the chosen are privileged and empowered to receive, reflex, and reflect the living Word.
---Josef on 1/5/14


We all do, well at lease we all should!
Mat_10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat_10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils:
freely ye have received, freely give.

Joh_6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
God bless, Peace
---TheSeg on 1/5/14


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It still amazes me that people think the KJV was the only version published. Wonder how many know the number of versions of the Bible before the KJV. Also, I am amazed at how many people think that King James was a Biblical person.
---KarenD on 1/5/14


\\the KJV is public domain. \\

Wrong, shira.

The KJV was and still is under Crown Copyright in Great Britain. That's why it could not be printed in North America until after the American Revolution.

Did you know that when the KJV was first released, radical Puritans called it "the Devil's Bible" and burned it in the streets?

It was NOT greeted with applause and kisses as you imagine. Nor was it the first official English translation.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/4/14


Not the rights to the word of God, as we know, But who has the right to the word of God? Who claims it? Remember God gave it away to who?
---BRYAN on 1/4/14


Last time I checked God owned his own word. However I agree with Cluny if its about the copyright laws as far as printing purposes.
---Candice on 1/4/14


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What you mean to say is, who owns you?!
---christan on 1/4/14


the KJV is public domain. that is how so many corrupt versions are written. I use to go into a book store and the king james bible was eye high. now the perversions are eye high and you have to dig to get to a king james bible.
---shira4368 on 1/4/14


I'm not too sure what you mean by this question.

To discuss just one possible meaning, ALL English translation of the Bible, including the KJV, are under copyright.

But this might not be the question you're asking. Can you elaborate?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/4/14


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