How Often To Praise God
What's your perspective on praise (or "praise and worship")? For instance, do you really think that believers are supposed to do it literally 24/7, no matter what? That they're supposed to be constantly thinking about Jesus, joyful, singing, dancing, and so on? Isn't that unrealistic?
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---Tired on 1/13/14
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\\The important thing to remember is not to let praying and praising become mechanical - from the head. It must come from the heart.
---Steveng on 1/14/14\\
No one bats 1000 in this regard, Steveng.
Not even you and your worldly denominational church.
Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/30/14|
/josef on 1/19/14/
Thanks brother, Praise God for your insight.
Zech 4:6 "Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the Lord unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the Lord of hosts."
Zerubbabel- Hebrew: born in Babel (confusion)
strg894,2216,2215-flow away from, descended of , confusion
Zechariah - Hebrew: Yah has remembered
strgs 2148,2142,3050, from [zakar]-to be mark, call-bring,
Event of Flood things Mix together chaos, confusion (babel)
Hebraism: Same event repeatedly declared with different levels of understanding.
Praise YHVH for remembrance and drawing/bring/calling one out of/from the Flood of confusion into/by - Order
---char on 2/11/14|
Tired, you also said,
"That they're supposed to be constantly thinking about Jesus, joyful, singing, dancing, and so on? Isn't that unrealistic?"
The hardest part of any Christian is to give thanks to God in all things. If we were perfect we could do that, and one day we will be able to only do those things, but not in this life in the flesh. When we are suffering by the lost of a child, or wife, it is hard to give thanks to God because in the flesh we are still selfish. No one wants to lose a love one, even though we know everyone is going to die at some point in time. But we fight through it no matter what. If we depend on God for all things, we know He has done what is right even if we don't see it or feel it.
---Mark_V. on 2/2/14|
Tired, I believe that those who love the Lord Jesus Christ, think about Him everyday, and remember to study His Word so that they can know Him more and more each day. Not every second but no day should go by without thinking of Him. No believer should be forced to do anything, it should be coming from within the person. Like when a guy has a girl friend he loves a lot, he wants to know more and more the other person, and talk to that person as long as he can almost every minute of the day. With the Lord is should be within us already, no one should have to tell us what to do.
---Mark_V. on 1/27/14|
"We cannot change anyone, all we can do is share the Truth. If they feel that you are wrong, they do not have to accept it, and you are ok with that. I am too brother. We just give the Truth as we know it, from there on it is up to God. ---Mark_V. on 1/24/14 All.
Exactly my brother. I am no one teacher, nor do I attempt to teach, I simply enjoy sharing:o)
---josef on 1/24/14|
"Josef and aka, your attempts at poisoning the well ad hominem attacks on my person." Tied you have misunderstood us both. I apologize if I was unclear. There was no intent to offend. I was simply saying embrace what you believe to be Truth, and dismiss the rest. Or in Aka's words "rest easy...no matter what others say." "I discerned and rejected these unrealistic expectations (while this thread was up), I have actually started to appreciate Biblical praise more and be more open to it as it may come." Good for you. You see, we may have served a purpose after all:o)
---josef on 1/23/14|
Bro. Josef, I really like the way you answer others when you finish with,
""Josef, I don't see how Zechariah 4:6 relates to praise." I understand Tired, If you can not receive it, by all means dismiss it, If you have not already:o) I am certainly not seeking to lead anyone astray."
I feel the same way as you. We cannot change anyone, all we can do is share the Truth. If they feel that you are wrong, they do not have to accept it, and you are ok with that. I am too brother. We just give the Truth as we know it, from there on it is up to God. If it is Truth that we are giving, it will bless someone, God makes sure of that. Maybe not the person you are answering, but someone that won't even respond.
---Mark_V. on 1/24/14|
Hello,All respect to you Bro.adetunji, yes! You are correct.We are not always "chipper" & jumping happy,there's times we get depressed,sad, we are NOT robots and not perfect by no ways! Listen to a message preacher say " we live on & out of our emotions!" Christians.. Jesus is our perfect Example.
You are correct . Thanks!
Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 1/22/14|
Chria, you said it very well.
good to read you again.
---aka on 1/22/14|
Not_Tired_Anymore:// You know, if you're not joyful 24/7 or doing praise 24/7, then you're not in the Spirit or just plain unsaved.// Yes, I have observed(~decade ago) this tendency in some so called "Christians" who smiles everytime & pretend all is always well with them. Some of them were later discovered committing unexpected transgressions. Do not be bothered by such but look at our perfect example (Lord Jesus) who taught us to be sober & alert always to do God's will .
---Adetunji on 1/22/14|
"become impervious to what you perceive as attacks.
---aka on 1/21/14"
Good advice. Sometimes,(not all),(depending on source) attacks may be a sort of lifeline. When one is challenged it may be the tendency to go with what's been taught, understood for some time, however, much is not necessarily as we previously perceived. These attacks may introduce us to truths one would otherwise have rejected. I think of one here that I had assumed was cruel, attacking others, not acting in love. Some things (biblical) stuck with me and had to search out. While not done, I've come to appreciate and respect this persons input and realize more truth there than much of the feel good stuff so common in many "church" circles.
---Chria9396 on 1/22/14|
Ad hominem attacks...? Ha ha...
Did you read my earlier replies?...i suggested to do what you say your doing now.
//...rest easy...no matter what others say...there is never enough praise and worship. That is why we need a savior.
Neverthless...I do not think you are using ad hominem correctly. Or you are using a very wide stroke.
Anyway, the next step is to become impervious to what you perceive as attacks.
---aka on 1/21/14|
Josef and aka, your attempts at poisoning the well ad hominem attacks on my person will bring me to my final reply on this thread.
I think that one of the stumbling blocks which I had with Biblical praise was that I saw it through the lens of many Christians' unrealistic expectations. You know, if you're not joyful 24/7 or doing praise 24/7, then you're not in the Spirit or just plain unsaved. And assuming Biblical exhortations mean Biblical commands in order to back this perspective up. And so on.
But, once I discerned and rejected these unrealistic expectations (while this thread was up), I have actually started to appreciate Biblical praise more and be more open to it as it may come.
---Not_Tired_Anymore on 1/21/14|
Tired: The Christians I know do NOT hate the Law. The Law showed me I am a sinner, and needed Jesus, to make a way to a relationship with God the Father.
Jesus was asked which Commandment was the greatest. He gave two, to love God, with all our heart, soul, and mind, and to love our neighbor as ourselves. He told us that those two Laws, summed up all the Law and the Prophets.
Have you ever admitted that you are a sinner, and that you need Jesus to provide a way for you to have a personal relationship with God? Have you ever asked Him to be your Savior? It's your turn to answer a question.
---Grandma on 1/20/14|
Tired : // Josef, I don't see how Zechariah 4:6 relatesto praise.// A person in whom the Spirit of God doesn't dwell will not praise God and will not accept that "Jesus is Lord" in truth. The spirit of rebellion is an ungrateful & insatiable spirit who is always looking for more & is never thankful.
---Adetunji on 1/20/14|
<"Praise Elohyim while looking at Him 'form' something 'New' within 'guiding' 'towards' the 'mark'." Char on 1/16 Amen to all.
Char your post are so deep, that it sometimes take me a minute to completely grasp. But I think I have it:o) Yes, let us lift up holy hands, without wrath and doubting. Yes, let us take hold of our superimposed place of rest in the peace set apart for us in the Father's power and authority, through Christ, without wavering. Be blessed, and continue sharing an caring.
"Josef, I don't see how Zechariah 4:6 relates to praise." I understand Tired, If you can not receive it, by all means dismiss it, If you have not already:o) I am certainly not seeking to lead anyone astray.
---josef on 1/19/14|
Cluny, I corrected myself. It is not my contention.
as far as conflating verses, scripture was not originally written in verses. My reference is matt 7:22-23. Please tell me how i erred.
For space reasons, we all have to do this. So, the next time that you use the writings of a forefather, please use the direct quote.
In addition, we know that you have used colloquialisms and have severely criticized others for the same.
Let me quote directly to satisfy your railings this minute...
Matthew 23:28 KJV
Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
---aka on 1/19/14|
Tired, now I think you are arguing just to argue or you are trying to give yourself an out on what others see as the truth.
if your truth comes only man's interpertations from written materials, then you miss the mark.
if you are tired of what others say ... fine, but remember others get weary of those who resist everything no matter what.
good thing there is a god who understands this, and gives strength.
---aka on 1/19/14|
\My contention is that those who have ritualized or somehow basstardized (sp to get through) the revelation of jesus christ are not Christians at all. \\
There's a song by Tom Leherer called BE PREPARED. It includes the lyrics, "Don't write dirty words that you can't spell."
\\Remember, he said that many will come in his name but he will not recognize them.\\
You conflated several verses here, without quoting one of them completely or properly.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/19/14|
Josef, I don't see how Zechariah 4:6 relates to praise.
Cluny, Psalm 119:164 and Psalm 119:62 are about praising and thanking the Lord for his righteous Law. Do you have this kind of high regard for his Law? I thought that Christians in general hated the Law, except as an evangelistic tool.
---Tired on 1/19/14|
Maybe you!---Clunyon 1/19/14,
you are right, but it won't be for following ritualistic traditions and ceremony of men.
\\My contention\\ aka \\Not necessarily\\ cluny
misspoke. It is a contention from the bible and it is my confirmation based on observation.
\\You can't expect everyone to be on the same high spiritual level you think yourself to be.\\
Ha ha...This must be the best that you think you have.
---aka on 1/19/14|
\\My contention is that those who have ritualized or somehow basstardized (sp to get through) the revelation of jesus christ are not Christians at all. \\
Not necessarily. You can't expect everyone to be on the same high spiritual level you think yourself to be.
\\Remember, he said that many will come in his name but he will not recognize them. Who might those people be?.\\
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/19/14|
aka, there are some who think they are saved but they are not. my husband "thought" he was saved because some chaplain in the military told him if he signed his name in the back of a new testament, he would be saved. 50 years later he really got saved. Praise the Lord.
---shira4368 on 1/18/14|
I know what you are saying. My contention is that those who have ritualized or somehow basstardized (sp to get through) the revelation of jesus christ are not Christians at all.
Remember, he said that many will come in his name but he will not recognize them. Who might those people be?.
now for those who are in ritualized churches including the modern protestant and post modern mega churches...I have grown up in Catholic schools and I would much rather be around them christianity-wise than most of the protestants I came to know as an adult.
---aka on 1/18/14|
Prayer does not consist merely in standing and bowing your body or in reading written prayers.it is possible to pray at all times, in all places, with mind and spirit. You can lift up your mind and heart to God while walking, sitting, working, in a crowd and in solitude. His door is always open, unlike mans. We can always say to Him in our hearts Lord , Lord have mercy.
St. Tikhon of Zadonsk.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/18/14|
How do you LOVE your children?...do you fear them?...do you pray to them?...do you OBEY thjem?, etc.
Then why do you think these activities impress God? Why would you think these activities express LOVE to God?.....
.....(that IS the goal, isn't it?).
LOVE GOD ONLY for what He has done, do not love MAN (priests, clergy, etc.) or study man's knowledge and ways for what God has done.
Seek GOD'S kingdom first...
...and also seek GOD'S righteousness (Hebrews 7:25).
---faithforfaith on 1/18/14|
//---aka on 1/17/14//
You have always being a blessing, Thank you brother :)
---char on 1/17/14|
aka: "There are many who say prayer and praise has to come from the heart not head. That is an obvious statement..."
To many christians is it not an obvious statement for many christians who are having a hard time or going through tribulation repeat prayers as some denomination churches teach. Some repeat the Lord's Prayer, some repeat the prayer to the Holy Mary, etc. This is why repeated, or mechanical, prayers do not get answered. Prayer is nothing more than communicating with God - it's spontaneous and from the heart.
---Steveng on 1/17/14|
There are many who say prayer and praise has to come from the heart not head. That is an obvious statement that does not help those whose heart is broken by life. It may maintain a pulse but it does not live.
first, it has to be emptied and repaired. Then genuine prayer and praise in the light of zec 4:6 will come through.
It takes time. Let it all out on god. He is a big boy. He wants all the trash and anger keeping your heart from living in him.
char...lydia and others...thank you for holding my arms up in battle. I get the blessings of your ability to endure my stinky spiritual armpits. May god bless you. I a thank the ones who tried to tear down. God proved himself.
---aka on 1/17/14|
//"Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit, saith the LORD of hosts." Zec 4:6
---josef on 1/17/14//
---char on 1/17/14|
What's your perspective on praise (or "praise and worship")?
"I will bless the LORD at all times: his praise shall continually be in my mouth." Psa 34:
"For instance, do you really think that believers are supposed to do it literally 24/7, no matter what? Yes.
"Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit, saith the LORD of hosts." Zec 4:6
---josef on 1/17/14|
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//---Steveng on 1/14/14// -----Very nice - Agree.
North Star: Halel
Hebrew word translated Praise:[Halel]
The star is like no other star.
Hebrew concept: concrete way of thinking
Used as a guide for traveling, the star remains motionless and is constantly shining in the northern sky.
The Ancient Hebrew's understood to 'look' at Elohyim who alone 'guides' by shining on the 'pathway' to show the 'direction'
[HLL] - Hebrew leters (parent root)
[H - Hey] pictograph is a man with his arms raised up
[L L - Lamed] Pictograph is a 'sheperds staff' (there are two Lamed's)
Praise Elohyim while looking at Him 'form' something 'New' within 'guiding' 'towards' the 'mark'.
---char on 1/16/14|
Psalm 119/118LXX says, "Seven times I day I praise You," and "At midnight I rise to thank You." This is the basis of the Divine Office--8 prayer services during the day observed in Orthodox monasteries.
And yes, 2 Thess says, "Pray without ceasing." However, only the Orthodox Church has preserved the teaching on how this is achieved.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/16/14|
Tired: The Holy Spirit has to lead you to praise the Lord. You can never praise God enough for the goodness HE has bestowed unto you. It's some angels that are reportedly praising HIM all the time, you an earthling must do some other things like work, eat etc. But please note, that as long as you are trying to do all things that you have to do in HIS will, you are also praising HIM.
---Adetunji on 1/16/14|
I don't know. I understand the need to show gratitude to the Lord for what he has done for me. And I even understand and appreciate the concept of praising him here and there.
I just can't believe that people who claim to praise the Lord all the time or have an attitude of praise all the time can be genuinely doing these things all the time. There is a time for everything (Ecclesiastes 3:1-8) and different circumstances require different attitudes, focuses, emotions, and so on. You just can't go through life stuck in one gear.
Also, I don't see where the Bible *commands* *the individual* to praise the Lord all the time. Sure, it *exhorts* *us* corporately to as an ideal thing to do, but I don't see it as a *command*.
---Tired on 1/16/14|
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Sis. Darline, your statement is very true. We are to give thanks to God in all things, and the main reason is that it is He in us that moves us to do the good we do. For everything good comes from above. He gets the glory always for all things for without Him we can do nothing that glorifies God.
Jesus taught us how to pray, and we should do it out of our own hearts, not because we have to but because we want to. Blessings to you
---Mark_V. on 1/15/14|
//God bless you bro.aka! I am very happy for you. Be at peace, Brother.
---Lidia4796 on 1/14/14 //
Ditto that :0)
Blessings to you brother.
---char on 1/15/14|
The important thing to remember is not to let praying and praising become mechanical - from the head. It must come from the heart.
---Steveng on 1/14/14|
God bless you bro.aka! I am very happy for you. Be at peace, Brother.
---Lidia4796 on 1/14/14|
...isolate yourself. Rest. Study. Debate. Discover yourself in him. He will reveal himself to you and you to you. Then, your most pressing questions will be answered.
rest easy...no matter what others say...there is never enough praise and worship. That is why we need a savior.
---aka on 1/14/14|
many years ago I became a single father with no family and friends around (reference your other question). I sought the lord wherever and as much as I could. I listened to others. It was exhausting and I was tired. One sunday as I lie there dreading another minute with church folk, I heard a small still voice that said, "Rest in Me." So, begrudgingly, I rose to get my children ready for church. Then, I heard the voice again, "No, I said to rest." So, I did.
As the weeks went by, I studied and read and debated (here on CN). After several years in solitude, I decided that was best...to be by myself. Several months later, God introduced me to a very special person....
what I am trying to say is...
---aka on 1/14/14|
Praise the Lord! smiles,I GET happy how GOOD He is! .
years ago,I be singing
( had my kareoke machine) ha! ha! they start coming by " grandma you make us so happy,we all miserable,you make us smile!" It' the Lord,not me.
Weekends hey, a good time in JESUS! ,you can't but,feel good once you think about Him, you got to have a praise some kinda way!
If you can just raise your hand! praise Him thru good & bad. Like darlene1 said we got an attitude of praise.
I thank you God I am still able
(in silence or audible) ,praise you!.
A silent PRAISE help you make it.
Just the same. I often sing in my mind or be praying guiet.. He hears everytime.
---Lidia4796 on 1/14/14|
We should not FORCE ourselves to PERFORM "praises" 24/7, but we should have an uplifting ATTITUDE about God in everything we do. I do not "pray" (cry out to God, He is in me and I in Him)...God should be INTERNAL to you, NOT EXTERNAL (He is inside of me and I am inside of Him...we are INTEGRAL, we are one, Galatians 3:28 "we are all one in Christ").
I don't "give thanks BEFORE every meal, but I do know who to thank (my lord knows me).
---faithforfaith on 1/14/14|
If the Bible didn't mean what it says then God wouldn't have had it put in there. Yes we are to pray and praise without ceasing and continually. That covers it all. We don't have to do it out loud we can go around with a prayer or a praise in our hearts,it isn't hard to do if you keep your mind on God and God's work of praying and praising. God is pleased when His people pray or praise Him after all we were created for fellowship with God and being in the Word,praying,and praising is how we stay in touch to show God our love for Him and others. Blessings
---Darlene_1 on 1/14/14|