How To Meet Believers
How can a believer open up to and trust other believers, if they live in a ruggedly individualistic, consumerist society? Doesn't that, by definition, make fellowship impossible, unless it is done by joining factions which selfishly pursue similar self-interests (i.e. clubs, cliques, and so on)?
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---Tired on 1/14/14
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Tired, I don't have a clue where you have been attending Church or what kind of people you have met in your life, but I have attended a few churches and I have met only very few brothers and sisters who have a problem with others. All the ones I know are great people, very loving, and helpful. What I have found is that not many want to talk about Scripture consistently like I do. I always want to discuss the Word. I know many have their lives to live but I believe they should have the same hunger for the word, but many don't. Has something happen to you that makes you feel like you do?
---Mark_V. on 1/31/14|
lidia, thanks for explaining this to me.
---shira4368 on 1/29/14|
Hello,Shira4368, it just this city
it' so full of corruption, it seems like hell at times.
later (calm) know God is in control.' Example: my neighbor who stole my coat ... like mother/son process with him,he even admits it!
I laugh instead of crying ..
It' reminds me of Sodom & Gomorrah they all' wrong & NOBODY cares about nothing or nobody. My laugh of just frustration like sarcastic..
He' crackcocaine addiction & he' gay.. I keep him in prayer, he apologized, ,I truly feel God really is dealing with him. He said " Grandma if you move, it' going to be worse up in here!"
---Lidia4796 on 1/29/14|
lidia, I don't really understand what you were saying in your blog where you laugh. please straighten me out.
---shira4368 on 1/28/14|
tired, I have a club you should join....
Heb10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is, but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
I believe it is biblical for us as followers of Christ to seek out a good bible believing bible teaching church and to attend services on a regular basis and to encourage one another.
Hang in their brother. You are not alone, and even when you are Christ is with you. When you are tired lean on Him.
---trey on 1/27/14|
Shira4368,yes' that' why I can't help laugh' this city runs close 2nd..sometime people be so weird, there a song " I'd hate to live in hell then gotta die and go to hell!"
Satan knows time his winding up so he trying to drag as many as he can ..
---Lidia4796 on 1/27/14|
God bless you,Sis.Shira4368, thanks to you & all my friends here CNT. Yes! I just happen see this again...I am so ha ha crazy laugh when I saw a blogg someone had ( it closed) ha ha they need to start it a fresh!
It says " where is hell at?"
I am laughing honest after all ' go through sometimes.. I want to say..
God forgive me! I'm.still.laughing..
Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 1/27/14|
KarenD: Don't put words in my mouth. I did not say I'm the only person who disagrees with people at church. I'm like all the rest of the congregation, and have my opinions like everyone else. I disagree with some people, and agree with some people. I just keep my opinions to myself, and lead by example of my service there.
---Grandma on 1/27/14|
lidia, are you telling me that churches don't treat you like a person? what is so different about you? the color of your skin? so what, you are wonderfully made and don't let no person tell you any different. YOU ARE like everyone else. this world consist of the saved and unsaved. lost or found, blind but now see, thankful, unthankful. I see your post and you are saved, not blind, thankful. you are a wonderful sweet and dedicated person. I am thankful you are my friend.
---shira4368 on 1/27/14|
Grandma, thanks for giving your testimony on who you were before God really changed you. Many people are like you use to be right now. They find fault in everything. Never looking for the good in people. I am glad God changed your heart in that area of your life. Many judge everything. How the message is given, what people wear, the cliques in the church, and every individual that attends the church.
It should be a place of worship, and fellowship with one another. Helping each other rather then tearing each other up. I'm very proud of you and what God is doing now in your life, peace sister,
---Mark_V. on 1/27/14|
Hello,all respect to you Bro.Steveng,it really good,please pray for me.
( this barrio) God can get a hold of them,I have told them be great we get together Bible & Fellowship.
Many hesitant for even their Pastors tell them NOT to fellowship with people like myself.. that'hypocrital they know me for yrs.
Jesus is my life,my past under the Blood of Jesus!
Good thing I always meet & we share the bible, talk about God' grace and mercy at the hospital..
---Lidia4796 on 1/22/14|
Christianity is a lifestyle.
It's important to have daily fellowship with other christians, whether it's just two or a half a dozen, in the park, at home (as in the bible), or at your local cafe. Daily fellowship keeps christians accountable to keep from wondering off the path toward the Kingdom of God. Again, do an online KJV bible search for "one another," "each other," "encourag," and "comfort" because living a christian life is a 24/7 lifestyle - not a once a week pep talk dished out by denominational churches.
---Steveng on 1/21/14|
grandma...If you are the only one disagreeing with your fellow church members, maybe you need to think about that.
---KarenD on 1/21/14|
---Grandma on 1/19/14
beautifully said. How easy devotion to God can mask as pride. Guilty as well.
---Scott1 on 1/20/14|
Tired, I used to find fault with lots of people at the churches I attended. This elder was too legalistic, that one prayed too long, this woman was a busy body, etc. I didn't agree with so many of my sisters and brothers in the Lord, and was disobedient in not loving them.
Then, 12 years ago, I found myself living alone. My husband had left, and my children were all grown and on their own. God did a major work on me, and it was so powerful, I cried I was so ashamed.
Now, while I may disagree with many of my fellow church members, on a lot of things, I get along with all of them. Christ's love for me is so great, I'm able to look beyond our differences.
---Grandma on 1/19/14|
Hello,here- church's Need to seek & pray Let God MOVE! it' weird here,it's either a nationality ( or race issue & or NO singles wanted) in the longrun.
( small Family churches )
Only 2 church' really felt welcome here. One pastor died,another he left the city.
I pray find a real spirit filled church
that will treat me like everyone else!
I loved church' in New York!!! They are just wonderfull.. everychurch I visit.. had friends, all my friends cried when I had to leave N.Y.
Chicago other places visited a good while. No problem.
---Lidia4796 on 1/19/14|
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Tired....Church attendance is in decline because the Bible says that in the end peoples' hearts will grow cold. It doesn't mean that there are not still some good churches out there who love new people and accept them into their group easily.
---KarenD on 1/19/14|
KarenD, I often hear the retort, "But my church is great! We truly serve the Lord with great attitudes!"
Unfortunately, based on what I have seen, it's a matter of perspective. Of course, those who are "in" would think that their church is great. But those who are at the mercy of the "in" people might feel differently.
In short, Christian church membership is in decline in general. There's a reason for this. Hence, everyone's churches cannot be "great".
Adetunji, I agree that God will show us were we belong. But, even then, people still need to learn how to get along themselves (i.e. learn to practice Biblical love themselves). Hence, my original question.
---Tired on 1/19/14|
Tired.....You must have not visited many churches. Our church is full of members who serve the Lord voluntarily from the pastor on down. None of these people are self-serving. They serve in the area in which God had gifted them and many have learned gifts they did not know they had. We are a very ethnically and financially and age mixed congregation. The younger members turn to the elder members for direction. We serve Jesus and the community, not ourselves.
---KarenD on 1/16/14|
Tired://How can a believer open up to and trust other believers..?// As a believer, you have to trust God first and open up yourself to God first. Then if it is necessary to consult other believers, God will lead you to the believers that you should contact, please read Jeremiah 17: 5-9.
---Adetunji on 1/16/14|
//That is, until your similar self-interests become not so similar and you turn on one another.//
Why did you turn on each other? I did not mean you worship or idolize your friends. I have had many cliques in the past 10 years. My friends were not bad people, we just have different lives and different goals and objectives and thus grow apart. Moving on can also be a good thing because God always calls us to take a risk of faith so that our trust remains on him.
---Scott1 on 1/16/14|
Scott1, I thought that Biblical love is not self-serving (1 Corinthians 13:5)?
Finding people who have similar self-interests and fellowshipping over them can be great. That is, until your similar self-interests become not so similar and you turn on one another. To me, that's a recipe for creating fellowships which exist on borrowed time from the start.
Cliques come, then go. And I'm sick of it. :-(
---Tired on 1/16/14|
People are not that different. Why is pursuing a similar self-interest a bad thing. Last night my guys Bible Study group went and saw Lone Survivor. True community takes effort and risk, Matthew 7 - "narrow is the road that leads to life" is not just about salvation but daily following God. "you can't do life alone" is one of my church's core values.
---Scott1 on 1/14/14|