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When Did Job Livve

I have always believed the book of Job holds the answers to many mysteries. One of those mysteries is the time period in which Job lived. When do you think Job lived, and what brought you to your belief?

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Thank you Leon :)
---Mary on 6/11/14


"Hi everyone, I've always had a thought about Job's wife: true, she said something very terrible, but if any of us lost all of our children in one day, how many of us would honestly praise God for some time to come? She was a grieving woman and that's where her nasty words came from. Just my two cents. :)"
---Mary on 6/1/14


That's very real Miss Mary & I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. We must never loose sight of the fact that the inside Bible people were very much like us outside of the Bible people, warts & all! If we remember that, I believe our Bible understanding would be significantly enhanced. Your "two cents" go a long way towards "paying attention" to God's word! :)
---Leon on 6/10/14


Mary, my wife and I were discussing that just the other day, and we came to exactly the same conclusion you did.
---love.jesus on 6/1/14


Hi everyone, I've always had a thought about Job's wife: true, she said something very terrible, but if any of us lost all of our children in one day, how many of us would honestly praise God for some time to come? She was a grieving woman and that's where her nasty words came from. Just my two cents. :)
---Mary on 6/1/14


Cluny 2/4/14 your on mirror so we know who the accuser of the Brethren is. Is this your mission in life is to sow how wrong people are? Where is your faith in the world? God spoke faith over wrong way Job. Right in front of satan God say Job is a perfect man. Then satan said he will cruse you before I'm through with him. This is were satan is off God's word produces what he tells it to produce. Job was a little off until the word God had spoke produced in his life. Took about 6 weeks. Then his rightous shined like the son? We are to sow the Gospel it will produce. So keep your judgments to yourself it work better that way.
---Bryan on 6/1/14




Okay then, Leon. We'll leave it at that. God bless.
---Love.wins on 2/15/14


"Leon, I don't use negative characterizations when responding to you, so I will ask you not to use them either. Everything written on these blogs is opinion..."
---Love.wins on 2/15/14


I certainly don't mean to damage your lil' psyche L.w, but all that's posted here isn't opinion (eisegesis), with exception to all of your comments. The "Christians" on CN know & recognize the Bible as the divinely inspired word of God, not opinion. I'm just saying it's in your best interest to be silent if what you say can't be substantiated as true. God judges our every idle word. (Matt. 12:36)
---Leon on 2/15/14


Leon, I don't use negative characterizations when responding to you, so I will ask you not to use them either. Everything written on these blogs is opinion. If you disagree with what I say, that's okay. if you are a moderator here, let me know. If that is the case and you tell me not to post, I will not post
---Love.wins on 2/15/14


"It is very possible that Noah and Daniel and Job did not really exist. Remember that Ezekiel wrote Ezekiel, God did not write Ezekiel.
---Love.wins on 2/14/14

Job is a novel, an allegory."
---Love.wins on 2/13/14


It's as possible as "you" not really existing. Are your latest comments rooted in fact or just more of your screwy opinions? I'm certain it's more of the latter. Prove what you say is true or else have the decency to be silent L.w!
---Leon on 2/14/14


Now, saying that Noah might not even exist would directly oppose many authors. Isaiah, Ezra, Matthew, Luke, Peter, and Paul all reference Noah as an historical person.
Are we to take your word over theirs?
What credentials do you hold that would make us believe you over them?
Here's some thoughts about theirs:
2Pet 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God...
1The 2:13 ...when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received [it] not [as] the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God...
Love.wins, Who do you say Jesus is?
---micha9344 on 2/14/14




It is very possible that Noah and Daniel and Job did not really exist. Remember that Ezekiel wrote Ezekiel, God did not write Ezekiel.
---Love.wins on 2/14/14


Ezekiel 14:14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.
Ezekiel 14:20: Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter, they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.-Steveng on 1/30/14
Job is a novel, an allegory.-Love.wins on 2/13/14
If Job was not a real historical person, maybe Noah and Daniel are not also.
If the Lord is not lying in the Ezekiel verses, then Love.wins has been misinformed by himself or others.
---micha9344 on 2/14/14


Job is a novel, an allegory.
---Love.wins on 2/13/14


//... we all have a certain degree of built in narcissism.//

True, some people have a lot more than others. We should hold our own mirrors to ourselves to check ourselves, looking into the perfect law of liberty. When other people claim to hold a mirror to others, they are looking at themselves, and then project what they see onto others.
---Rod4Him on 2/7/14


Rod
We all have character flaws, and when we make ourselves a measure of right and wrong, we don't see those flaws. Because of this, we all have a certain degree of built in narcissism.
---David on 2/7/14


David, do a web search on characteristics of a narcissist and you will understand.
---Rod4Him on 2/5/14


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I merely hold up a mirror to others. If you don't like what you see in it, don't blame me.---Cluny on 2/4/14

Cluny
After reading what you have posted about your life, I understand the bitterness you display in your posts.

Have you ever noticed how God blesses your Good Deeds, your acts of love toward others?
Look for every opportunity to help those in need, and then you will discover the Love of God. Confess your sins daily, and do as Jesus taught, and then you will know his Grace.
This path is very narrow, and very few find it, even though Jesus made it easy in his Gospels. Follow Christ, not man.

In you posts, try to build a man up, and not to seek a way to cut him down.
---David on 2/5/14


"\Many of your posts reek of hatred and immaturity, and to spare you from any more of Gods punishment, try not to do this anymore.\\

I merely hold up a mirror to others. If you don't like what you see in it, don't blame me.

Glory to Jesus Christ!"
---Cluny on 2/4/14


Is that mirror "merely" for others Cluny or do you not also need to reflect upon yourself? (James 1:23-26)
---Leon on 2/4/14


\\Many of your posts reek of hatred and immaturity, and to spare you from any more of Gods punishment, try not to do this anymore.\\

I merely hold up a mirror to others. If you don't like what you see in it, don't blame me.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/4/14


David, man knew of dinosaurs thousands of years before man supposedly dicovered them in the 1800s. Cave drawings, vases depicting dinosaurs, and statues were found in many archaeological sites.
---Steveng on 2/2/14


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You mean people like you, David
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/1/14


Cluny
Please don't bring the name of Jesus Christ into your callous and hateful remarks towards me and others.
Many of your posts reek of hatred and immaturity, and to spare you from any more of Gods punishment, try not to do this anymore.

As to your comment, I invite people, using multiple witnesses, to prove me wrong about those things I say I was taught by the Holy Spirit.
---David on 2/2/14


\\Believe me, I'm no fan of commentaries. I use them to point out the foolishness of those who wrote them, those who claim they were taught through the Holy Spirit.\\

You mean people like you, David?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/1/14


Steven
Believe me, I'm no fan of commentaries. I use them to point out the foolishness of those who wrote them, those who claim they were taught through the Holy Spirit.

FYI, Matthew Henry claimed the Behemoth was a Hippo because he didn't know of the Dinosaur, because the Dinosaur hadn't been discovered yet.
The Dinosaur was discovered in the 1800's and Matthew Henry died in the 1700's.

There are many inconsistencies in his commentaries, pointing those inconsistencies out might make an interesting blog.
I have Matthew Henry's commentaries, but use them not as an aid to promote him, but as an aid to demote him.
---David on 2/1/14


David: "Do you know why Matthew Henry wrote in his commentaries, he said the Behemoth in (Job 40) was a Hippo and not a Dinosaur?"

Does a hippo have a tail moving like a cedar. Compare the hippo's tail to the trunk of a cedar.

As for commentaries. Walk through any christian bookstore and you see a plethora of commentaries, concordances, dictionaries, and authors each having their own interpretations of the bible. For instance, there are more than a dozen books interpreting the rapture differenly.

Use the bible as its own reference.
---Steveng on 1/31/14


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Steven
Though what you say seems to be a mystery for many, it is not a mystery to me.

Question? Do you know why Matthew Henry wrote in his commentaries, he said the Behemoth in (Job 40) was a Hippo and not a Dinosaur?
---David on 1/31/14


Ezekiel 14:14
Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord God.

Ezekiel 14:20:
Though Noah, Daniel, and Job were in it, as I live, saith the Lord God, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter, they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.
---Steveng on 1/30/14


Praise God that Truth can be revealed, even 2 eons after Christ. I believe this to be true, but will not be sure until the glorious day of His return.
1Co 13:9-10,12-13 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away... For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face: now I know in part, but then shall I know even as also I am known. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three, but the greatest of these [is] charity.
From one: agape
From another: Glory to Jesus Christ
From me: Amen
---micha9344 on 1/30/14


After further study, I'm inclined to believe you're right Micha. Based on Bible facts, I really like the way that comes together because it shows that even though God hated (found displeasure with) Esau, not all of Esau's descendants (the Edomites) were apostates as well. It shows me no matter how bad one's family roots are there's always hope for the success of a remnant who will trust in & obey the Lord. Peace... :)
---Leon on 1/30/14


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\\Cluny: "BCV, please."

What is BCV?
---Steveng on 1/29/14\\

Book, Chapter, Verse.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/14


Cluny: "BCV, please."

What is BCV?
---Steveng on 1/29/14


There is no common agreement when Job lived among Bible scholars.
---Blogger9211 on 1/29/14


Hi Leon,
I understand we have discussed this before. One of the reasons I do not believe this is the same Job is because of vv 6-7 which lead into v13.
Gen 46:6-7 ...Jacob, and all his seed with him: His sons, and his sons' sons with him, his daughters, and his sons' daughters, and all his seed brought he with him into Egypt.
-This states, along with v13, that Job went into Egypt to live.
His family also exited Egypt:
Num 26:23 [Of] the sons of Issachar after their families: [of] Tola, the family of the Tolaites: of Pua, the family of the Punites: Of Jashub, the family of the Jashubites: of Shimron, the family of the Shimronites.
Jashub is Job of Issachar.
---micha9344 on 1/29/14


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Some have said that Job lived in the early patriarchal times of Abraham, Issac & Jacob. I believe, as it is written in Genesis 46:13, Job was a son of Issachar, Jacob's son.

Issachar was the ninth son of the patriarch Jacob (Israel). Issachar ( & the rest of the family) went with his father Jacob into Egypt & lived there under the government of pharoah & protection of his brother Joseph. I suspect Issachar was just a child (maybe an infant) when the family moved to Egypt.
---Leon on 1/29/14


\\"Noah, Daniel, and Job lived just as I live," said the Lord.\\

BCV, please.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/29/14


They Lived for sure before the New Covenant was given. But they took what was Given to them by God and turn the world they were living in right side up. We have a greater Covenant than all three of them guys, and we struggle just to believe the word given to use face to face by Jesus. We think of reason why we can have the best God has given. When we have it in our hearts and it is available to be use for God's Glory. Which we can do,are Jesus would have never said you will do greater works than me. John 14:12
---BRYAN on 1/25/14


"Noah, Daniel, and Job lived just as I live," said the Lord. "They delivered their own souls by their own righteousness." So if Noah and Daniel was a real person, why not Job?
---Steveng on 1/25/14


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How is it that dinosaurs died in the flood then?--micha

Micha
If the Dinosaurs had lived after the flood, where are all their bones?
God describes their bones as being "stronger than brass and like bars of iron".
If they had lived after the flood, wouldn't their bones would be laying wherever they died?

And yes, I do believe in (Genesis 6:9), just not in the way you see it. I believe God saved categories of animals. I believe the Dinosaurs fell into the category of "beasts of the field", and the beasts he chose to save were the Giraffe, the Rhino, the Elephant, and the Hippo.

My proof is the lack of skeletal arches which would be found around the globe.
---David on 1/25/14


atheist on 1/24/14 "He never lived."

Atheist, here I respect you less for the way you phrased your statement.

If you were to merely state that you cannot believe in Job, I would be completely happy.

But it is better that you not state as a fact that Job never existed - it is awfully hard to prove. I understand that the story of Job seems hard to believe - as is the story of Jonah. But it is better to keep it as 'something you are not willing/able to believe', not just as 'something that never happened'.
---Peter on 1/24/14


He never livved. He is a character in a fictional story...
---atheist on 1/24/14


To Bro.aka, all respect to you,brother you made a good joke here about Satan.. " anyway always late for roll call!" You a mess, ha! ha!
Be blessed..
Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 1/24/14


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"I believe this because the Dinosaurs died in the flood..."-David on 1/24/14
Do you believe this:
Gen 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every [sort] shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep [them] alive with thee, they shall be male and female?
How is it that dinosaurs died in the flood then?
Most of each kind died in the flood.
I also believe Job lived during the times of the dinosaurs, but it was after the flood.
I believe there was no snow and frost before the flood.
Job 6:16, 9:30, 24:19, 37:6,10, 38:22,29
Summer and winter is not mentioned until after the flood, Gen 8.
---micha9344 on 1/24/14


I personally believe Job had to have lived before the flood. I believe this because the Dinosaurs died in the flood, and God references them in (Job 40 & 41) when scolding Job.

In (Job 40:15) God says, "Look now at the behemoth, which I made along with you
In (Job 41) God says to Job, Can you draw out Leviathan with a hook, Or snare his tongue with a line which you lower?

I believe this proves Job lived during the day of the Dinosaur.
---David on 1/24/14


Read Gen 36.
Many referenced names from the book of Job are in there.
Job probably lived after the great famine that sent Israel to Egypt, but well before the 400 years had expired for the Exodus.
I believe him to be the Jobab that ruled Edom during that time, grandson of Edom(Esau), son of Zerah.
Ref:
Uz: Gen 36:28
Eliphaz: Gen 36:10
Teman: Gen 36:11,34
He would be Judah's 1st cousin-once removed, Jacob's great-nephew.
---micha9344 on 1/23/14


Job probably lived during the time of Abraham. The chronological Bible puts it there.
---Scott1 on 1/23/14


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To me...job is timeless and its value is in the story and not the historical time period.

Nevertheless, I find it interesting that Satan had access to the presence of the Lord like the other angels and God was talking to him like he usually was not present for roll call everyday but was not yet banished.
---aka on 1/23/14


The Syriac/Greek version of Job has a few verses at the end that are not in the Hebrew. In these verses, it is mentioned that Job was a descendant of Esau.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/23/14


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