I think the destruction is already there.
Ecclesiastes 10:19 A feast is made for laughter, wine makes life merry, and money is the answer for everything.
1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
Ecclesiastes 9:11 I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned, but time and chance happen to them all.
---sin5694 on 11/10/14|
\\Wow! If you go online you will read how a legal lottery win has been a avid destroyer of homes,families,even some have been killed or so,stressed commit' suicide!\\
I've never heard of anyone driven to suicide as a result of a lottery (which is not to say it has not happened).
However, many US Churches in the Pre- and Post-revolutionary eras were financed through lotteries.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/2/14|
Thanks! Bro.MarkV. with all respect Brother, apreciate your comments,encouragement. I ask God always keep my mind. A mind that kept on God is a peacefull and happier one. Who knows? All things are possible..even my healing!
Either way, I choose Jesus!
Give my regards to your wife.
Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 2/8/14|
Sis. Lidia, you are correct. We gamble when we make decisions and God is not included in them. And that happens many times that we cannot count them. We should always walk by faith because to gamble is to take a chance, and with God there is no chance, fate, or luck. But we forget many times when we make decisions and they turn out wrong. Sister, you are doing so good, the more you ask questions, and check the word of God the more you learn each day, praise God for all the work you are doing. The glory to God always, blessings.
---Mark_V. on 2/5/14|
Hello,Bro.Mark all respect to you really great your post 1/31/20 wow! TRUE ,We gamble on like you say decisons, that what I try to explain else where similar, I really believe CNT is good, I believe it because it' good to be challenged and learn '( we need to know what God will is & not always be guided by our feelings that why I said if a couple live in adultery at some point they need to be serious( I think I meant to say fornication) but my point was it' not a joke, the stakes can be high!
When a couple do not trust in each other or trust 1st God...
It doesn't say much for being serious.. God love is unfailing , carnal love ... no sure thing.
Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 1/31/14|
Strongaxe, I agree with your answer to Steven. I believe Steven thinks they are fables because he teaches a person can have eternal life without Christ, that its happening today. So of course everything Lewis said is wrong to him.
There is all kinds of people here online. I still love them all.
---Mark_V. on 1/31/14|
You said: C. S. Lewis is a false gospel, turning the gospel into fables.
Turning the gospel into fables means asserting that Jesus wasn't actually a person, that all of Christianity is based on fictional mythology, just like Greek or Norse myths.
C. S. Lewis did the exact opposite - he turned fables into gospel, by creating fictional stories that illustrated biblical truths.
---StrongAxe on 1/30/14|
\\C. S. Lewis is a false gospel,\\
So is Steveng.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/30/14|
C. S. Lewis is a false gospel, turning the gospel into fables.
1 Timothy 1:4
1 Timothy 4:7
2 Timothy 4:4
2 Peter 1:16
---Steveng on 1/29/14|
Yes, gambling or anything else that makes your brother stumble is a bad thing. However, this is not because the Bible specifically calls gambling wrong in itself, but the secondary effects that it may have on a brother.
One could use this same kind of reasoning for anything that is permittible, but a temptation to some - like eating near a glutton, or lighting a candle near a pyromniac.
Paul spoke similarly of meat sacrificed to idols. He said simultaneously that there is nothing wrong with eating such meat, and that he would abstain from meat to avoid offending other brothers. In other words, it may be a bad influence on some in some cases, but it is not wrong in and of itself.
---StrongAxe on 1/29/14|
Is CHANCE (a belief in something, e.g., luck, gambling, fate) the same as FAITH (complete trust in Someone, i.e., God)?
Which is right Jamea, having faith in God or placing your confidence (trust) in luck (gambling)? "Que Sera Sera, whatever will be, will be...", huh?!
---Leon on 1/29/14|
Gambling with chance is hoping to beat the odds. Investing money is not the same as trying to make an inside straight.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/29/14|
\\That also concerns gambling.
---Steveng on 1/28/14\\
In the words of C. S. Lewis, I'm not tempted to gamble.
This could mean that I lack the virtue of which compulsive gambling is the excess or defect.
I don't like moving out of my comfort zone, but at 63, I don't see why I should be required to do so.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/29/14|
Karen, I do believe gambling of money is wrong. What people forget is that we gamble everyday we make a decision. One job over another, whether to marry a girl or not, whether to refinance again or not and so on. Believers who are guided by the Holy Spirit make better decisions then those who are lost. I believe that everyone gambles through life, many times the flesh wins. We are not perfected yet, but will be one day, when we are glorified.
---Mark_V. on 1/29/14|
StrongAxe: "As such, this is not about whether gambling is right or wrong per se (that is a good subject for another blog) - but rather what the Bible SPECIFICALLY has to say on the matter."
I did speak from the Word of God about making your brother stumble. That also concerns gambling.
---Steveng on 1/28/14|
You said: If this subject of whether gambling is right or wrong, it's best not to do it and make your brother stumble.
The blog topic is: Prove gambling is wrong with scripture.
As such, this is not about whether gambling is right or wrong per se (that is a good subject for another blog) - but rather what the Bible SPECIFICALLY has to say on the matter.
---StrongAxe on 1/28/14|
Trey, Can you give an example of hoe the Lord blesses financially ??
---1st_cliff on 1/28/14|
If the Lord blesses us financially and then we waste it on riotous living, gambling, etc. then are we good stewards of the Lord's blessings? Will he be quick to give us more? Will he say unto us, "Well done thou good and faithful steward"?
I doubt it.
---trey on 1/27/14|
If this subject of whether gambling is right or wrong, it's best not to do it and make your brother stumble.
And, it's apparent, many denominational churches use gambling to raise funds for pet projects. But some in the same church think it's wrong causing a stumbling of a brother or sister.
---Steveng on 1/27/14|
To Sis.Jamea all respect. My verses against gambling apologies lateness'
Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 1/27/14|
-Darlene_1 on 1/25/14
"Gambling by itself isn't bad"
"If it is only recreation like bowling,baseball,movies,etc"
"If its something a person can't live without its no different than being addicted to alcohol,dope,or anything else."
"The Bible teaches us to have temperance in all things"
So we should be able to interchange these words.
Alcohol and dope are not bad if done recreationally like baseball and bowling.
The Bible teaches us to be temperate in Baseball, Bowling, Gambling, Alcohol and dope.
Maybe we should just add murder and prostitution to the list.
Gambling destroys, someone is winning someone else's foolish desires. The majority goes to the facilitator's pockets.
---micha9344 on 1/27/14|
A bet among friends at an occasional card game or an office Super Bowl pool is one thing.
Industrial strength gambling, such as casinos and lotteries, are another.
I certainly do NOT support the latter.
Glory to JEsus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/27/14|
again you show your constant ignorance.
People on this site try to justify sin because it is not explicitly in the bible. So, I was turning the question on him. Show us in the bible where we are told that it is right.
Btw, it is hard to hit someone above the belt who constantly pulls his drawers over his head in admiration of his own stench.
---aka on 1/27/14|
Wow! If you go online you will read how a legal lottery win has been a avid destroyer of homes,families,even some have been killed or so,stressed commit' suicide! Look' for a Quick Fix but,certainly it opens door might be better closed! I had a brother-in law, it got him into HOT water,did not report $ kept winning,believe it or not
then had to pawn lots the flat screen tv' the jewelry,etc.. eventually, so call "friends" who did not get any $ broke into his place, 2 vans smash' up ...trouble with IRS and baby' momma' too! Cost him more than helped.
---Lidia4796 on 1/27/14|
StrongAxe, before you hit me below the belt and quote what aka wrote in his last blog. Did you even read his first posting when he wrote,
"anyway...prove through scripture that it is right to gamble"
Do you even know what this means? He said explicitly, "prove through scripture that it is right to gamble"!!!! And you have the audacity to say "He said (factually and correctly) that the Bible never says it's right or wrong."
Goodness gracious! It's you who needs to open your own eyes before you stand with the devil and defend him!
---christan on 1/26/14|
aka said: There is no place the bible directly calls gambling right or wrong.
You said: For you to even utter such a comment like, "..." obviously demonstrating your lack of understanding that sin is sin, period.
He said (factually and correctly) that the Bible never says it's right or wrong. He did not say ot imply it wasn't a sin, Your attack of that statement is a straw man argument - you're reading his mind between his mind, and then criticizing him for what you thought he was thinking.
You have also frequently done the same to me. Why don't you just read what people actually write, and then comment on that, rather than trying to read hostile agendas into their words?
---StrongAxe on 1/25/14|
Darlene, I love your answer. many people go overboard on many things. Ive seen bowlers bowl 7 nights a week but never stick their head in church. that was me 30 years ago. I was way out of the will of God. I am thankful God brought His sheep back to the fold. He is truly my shepherd, my Savior.
---shira4368 on 1/25/14|
christan, your words, everytime I read them are like Charlie Brown's teacher, "Wah wah Wa wah...Whaw."
I said the bible there is no place the bible says it directly. I did not say it was good.
---aka on 1/25/14|
aka, mind you, it was you who used Acts 1:26 to justify saying "anyway...prove through scripture that it is right to gamble". Your words, not mine.
For you to even utter such a comment like, "There is no place the bible directly calls gambling right or wrong" obviously demonstrating your lack of understanding that sin is sin, period. Why do people gamble? To glorify God? Ya right. Changing the tune to your words is not going to make any difference to your initial comment.
Talk about "misguided diatribes".
---christan on 1/25/14|
Gambling by itself isn't bad but what it does to people is bad. Perhaps I should say what people do to themselves is bad. If it is only recreation like bowling,baseball,movies,etc then its not bad but when it becomes a driving force in a persons life then it is very evil. If its something a person can't live without its no different than being addicted to alcohol,dope,or anything else. The Bible teaches us to have temperance in all things and when we forget that and go to excess then what we do becomes wrong.
---Darlene_1 on 1/25/14|
1st_cliff: "...I have Christian relatives who invest in the stock market which is a gamble!"
They didn't have a stock market at the time of Jesus. Investment at that time was investing in real assets like land or a store. Today's stock market is being manipulated by men including the FEDs.
Gambling as we know it today is to covet money without working for it. Gambling is nothing more than the love of money. (1 Timothy 6:7-10, Hebrews 13:5).
Scripture also discourages us to "get rich quick" (Proverbs 13:11, 23:4-5, Ecclesiastes 5:10).
Gambling can turn into addiction of the love of money and to gain riches.
Besides, does gambling bring glory to God?
---Steveng on 1/25/14|
James, concerning gambling, I believe we all do gamble in some way or another. When we decided to buy a car, we select one over another we gamble we got the right car or not. When a single person meets another, they gamble with they decide to marry the person. You have no clue what you are going to get until much later on. Let me say, many times they are wrong. Money gambling is very bad. Karen is correct, people lose their life saving gambling. Many old people are gambling their retirements in the casino's. I believe in what we gamble is what's important.
---Mark_V. on 1/25/14|
Christan...you are goofy. This is not where I was headed.
It was an aside.
There is no place the bible directly calls gambling right or wrong. Gambling is just usually nonproductive and always temporal just like your misguided diatribes.
---aka on 1/24/14|
Someone who asks this question has never seen the effects of gambling. As a former resident of Vegas, I dont need scripture to tell me it is wrong. If you have ever ministered in a gambling environment, you would understand. They give free alcohol to gamblers. Those big, fancy casinos were built by losers.
---KarenD on 1/24/14|
While one cannot prove directly from the Bible that gambling is always sinful (or virtuous, for that matter), per se, it can be motivated by avarice, which is one of the seven cardinal--that is, principal--sins in traditional Christian morality.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/24/14|
Why does one gamble?
The answer usually is: to get more.
1Ti 6:9-10 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and [into] many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. But thou, O man of God, flee these things, and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.
1Co 6:12 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not helpful. All things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.
---micha9344 on 1/24/14|
"anyway...prove through scripture that it is right to gamble." aka
Are you even saying there are similarities to what happened in Acts to you going to the casino or even betting on a horse? Wow! Truly amazing and very wicked in your thoughts to explain if gambling is wrong.
Was there even a financial gain when the apostles "gave forth their lots"??? Were they gambling with money to make money???
If one has a gambling habit, for the love of God, don't ever try to justify your act with that of Acts 1:26! "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain."
---christan on 1/24/14|
James, At Luke 19 Jesus gives an account via parable of the "ten minas"
It had to do with investing the 10,5 and 1 minas.
I have Christian relatives who invest in the stock market which, let's face it , is a gamble!
The only difference in the slot machine, dice or cards is the result is instant!
When the stock market crashes people lose their life saving in many cases! A crap shoot!
Albeit the parable had nothing to do with money, the principle is there!
---1st_cliff on 1/24/14|
Acts 1:26 KJV
And they gave forth their lots, and the lot fell upon Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.
jews believed that lots were controlled by the spirit of god. The apostles chose one way, but it seems the lord had his own way of choosing.
anyway...prove through scripture that it is right to gamble.
---aka on 1/24/14|