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Christ's Resurrection

Many Christians claim that Sunday supplanted Saturday as the Lord's Day because of Christ's day of resurrection. But is this biblical?

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\\But what she wrote is not important. \\

I agree. Nothing EGW says or writes is important.

\\ For that is the Final authority in all matters.\\

Nowhere does the Bible itself actually say that.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/19/14


Dear Cluny you seem a little light on Church History. The Protestant Reformation was against Papal authority. The Orthodox murdered those who tried to start it in their territory so they succeeded better then the Pope. Who called the Orthodox, Heretics and pronounced them Anathema.

So yes as Protestants we tend to follow the Pattern set by our forbearers.

Ellen G. White does tell of visiting Orthodox churches on her trip to Europe. But what she wrote is not important.

What the Bible says and teaches is important. For that is the Final authority in all matters.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/19/14


Jerry, **God Himself wrote in stone exactly how He expects US to memorialize the seventh day**
Who is the "US" here you refer to? Scripture please!
---1st_cliff on 2/19/14


\\Well considering that the Seventh day Baptist existed before Seventh day Adventist and in the early Church they made a law against keeping Sabbath on Saturday in Rome.\\

I don't know what this means, as Saturday was ALWAYS a liturgical day in Rome, as well as everywhere else in the Christian world.

Of course, SDAs are not strong in Church history. Oddly enough, while EGW ranted on and on about the Roman Catholic Church and that nasty ole pope feller, there's not ONE reference to Orthodoxy or the other Eastern Churches in her writings.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/19/14


Well considering that the Seventh day Baptist existed before Seventh day Adventist and in the early Church they made a law against keeping Sabbath on Saturday in Rome.

That the Pope urged the death of seventh day Sabbath keepers as far back as he was in control. No argument about we started it makes sense.

In Exodus the Sabbath day was designated by three miracles every week. On five days manna feel and would only last one day. On the sixth day manna fell but would last two days and no manna fell on Sabbath.

When JESUS walked the Earth He stated that He was LORD of the Sabbath day. Which day the Jews still keep and have kept since then. So yes the Bible tells us which day is the Sabbath.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/19/14




Michael: You are still stuck in self-serving denial. Here is REAL logic for you. Which day of the week did God make holy? The seventh day of course. The Bible records that day as the day after the crucifixion and the day before the resurrection. Do some research for yourself and see if you can deduce from these clues which day of the week is the seventh day. Or you might just check any dictionary or encyclopedia. But you won't, because you are not interested in truth, but rather justification of your own pre-conceived doctrine.

God Himself wrote in stone exactly how He expects us to memorialize the seventh day. But you are unwilling to give up man-made traditions in favor of God-given Commandments.



---jerry6593 on 2/19/14


Jerry, 2Tim.3.16 Paul is obviously referring to the OT. and is correct. IMHO
No other "scripture" was available at that time ,was it?
---1st_cliff on 2/18/14


Samuel and Jerry,
You are stuck in circular logic.
Do you see it?
You say the Sabbath is Saturday according to the Bible, but when asked to give BCV, you state historical references.
Then you go so far as to ask to give account of the Lord's Day being Sunday with BCV!
Once again, this cannot be done biblically, but historically. If you want to call that "tradition", fine.
There is still no biblical reference to the Sabbath being Saturday, nor the Lord's day being Saturday or Sunday.
We have pre-Nicene records showing how and when the early church would congregate to worship God and receive instruction.
Now we have followers of a 19th century false-prophetess telling us otherwise.
Ex 31:16, Heb 8:13 -Old
---micha9344 on 2/18/14


JESUS said this about His relationship to the Sabbath.

Matthew 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Mark 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Luke 6:5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

That is the Day pointed out by GOD.
Exodus 16:25 And Moses said, Eat that to day, for to day is a sabbath unto the LORD: to day ye shall not find it in the field.

JESUS uses the Sabbath to show He is equal with GOD. It is His day and belongs to Him. So where in the Bible is the command to keep Sunday?
---Samuelbb7 on 2/18/14


Cliff: "You need more?"

Yes! Do you believe:

2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:




---jerry6593 on 2/18/14




Michael: "The Lord's day has been shown to be Sunday."

Show me from the Bible and not from your tradition. And no, Rev 1:10 does not specify which day is the Lord's Day, no matter how much tap dancing you do around it.

Don't you think it illogical that Jesus and all His Apostles never mentioned such a monumental change to His eternal Law in their entire lives? Not even once?

Which day of the week do YOU think Jesus was crucified? Which day of the week do YOU think Jesus was resurrected? The REAL Lord's day is found between those two.

BTW, what does "noone" mean?




---jerry6593 on 2/18/14


Jerry, If you scroll down to 2/11/14 I answered your Question. You need more?
---1st_cliff on 2/17/14


"I still haven't seen anyone address the subject of this blog."-jerry6593 on 2/17/14
The subject was addressed. The erroneous and misleading blog question was clarified and answered.
If the question was not answered to your satisfaction, it doesn't make the answer less true.
You are not the final authority on truth based on how you feel about a certain subject.
The Lord's day has been shown to be Sunday. The Sabbath has shown to be Saturday. Your confusion of the two in no way undermines the truth therein.
Noone can show biblically that Saturday or Sunday match any of the Hebrew numbered days. This is done historically.
Erroneous and misleading question.
---micha9344 on 2/17/14


Cliff: I'm still waiting for an answer to my last question:

Just wondering, is there any part of the Bible that you DO believe?



Also, I still haven't seen anyone address the subject of this blog. If the resurrection changed the Lord's Day from Saturday to Sunday, where is this change chronicled in the Bible? And, why did not Jesus and the Apostles ever mention it or certify it by their actions?



---jerry6593 on 2/17/14


Jerry, **He taught them the plan of salvation personally**
This is exactly the thing I mentioned. Although scripture doesn't say, you "fill in the blanks" with speculation!
**They didn't need a written language* In spite of the fact that future generations would need accurate script?
They were taught so well that God had to drown them all except eight?
God selected a people for His purpose and gave them specific laws and spelled out His redemption plan, post flood!
Written language had developed to the point where Moses could read and write!(circa 1500 BC)
---1st_cliff on 2/12/14


Cliff: "Pre flood people had no way of knowing anything about the blood of Christ ! Neither is it written that they did!"

Oh really! God walked with Adam and Eve in the Garden. He taught them the plan of salvation personally. They were of such superior intellect that they did not need a written language, they remembered everything and because of their 900+ year lifespan, they taught their children and grandchildren for many, many generations. Adam's sons likely knew Noah, and Noah's sons likely knew Abraham.

Why do you think Adam's son and Abraham performed sacrifices if not for the plan of salvation?



---jerry6593 on 2/12/14


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Jerry, I believe scripture, I just don't "fill in the blanks" with my own speculation!
Interpretation has become a religious game!
Pre flood people had no way of knowing anything about the blood of Christ ! Neither is it written that they did!
Genesis makes more sense than the Q'oran,the Vedas,or any other religious book, describing creation!Evolution is a farse!
So where else can we get a logical explanation of how we originated?
---1st_cliff on 2/11/14


Can you explain how Jesus was "slain" from the beginning ( or foundation) of our world? (slain symbolicly?)
They knew that??? How?
1st_cliff

GOD knew that JESUS would die on the cross. So his blood was shown by the blood of the lambs and his death reached back to save by Grace Adam & Eve and anyone who wants to be saved since.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/11/14


Cliff: Repeating my last question:

Just wondering, is there any part of the Bible that you DO believe?



---jerry6593 on 2/11/14


Jerry, Because Abel sacrificed an animal and God accepted it ,is that your reason for saying that it was "well defined"?
That's a definition?, is that so also in all scripture?
Can you explain how Jesus was "slain" from the beginning ( or foundation) of our world? (slain symbolicly?)
They knew that??? How?
---1st_cliff on 2/10/14


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Cliff: "Revelation is 4 thousand years after the fact!"

Revelation states that Jesus (the Lamb) was slain from the foundation of the world. That an "acceptable" animal sacrifice was defined well before the flood is established in the story of Cain and Able. Also, murder (one of the Ten Commandments) was also proscribed in that story.

Just wondering, is there any part of the Bible that you DO believe?




---jerry6593 on 2/10/14


Jerry, To you killing the animals to cover their naked bodies is symbolic equating nakedness with sin! To A & E God covered them! No mention of sacrifice ( you're making a religion of this)
At what point did God indicate to the pre flood people that sacrifices were necessary to point to Christ?
Revelation is 4 thousand years after the fact!
They were never instructed to sacrifice or that a "Redeemer" was in the plan!
Hind sight is 20/20 ,you're guessing that they knew,huh?
---1st_cliff on 2/9/14


Samuel, here you say,
"The Fourth Commandment reminds people that GOD set apart the Sabbath at creation. So I believe GOD though Moses knows more then we do." You are correct, but it is not a law anymore because, the Ten commandments of God were given by God to Israel after He rescued them from Egypt and they had made a commitment to serve the Lord (Ex. 19:8). The law was never given as a means of Justification. Paul teaches that no one can earn righteous standing before God by the works of the Law (Gal. 3:11,12,21,22). The Law condemns those under it because they cannot keep it perfect, break one, you have broken them all. The Sabbath is no longer a law to those who are in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 2/9/14


Cliff: "There's no indication in Genesis that pre flood people knew how or if God was going to "undo" Adam's sin!"

Yes, deeper & deeper. Your ignorance of the Scriptures knows no bounds.

The sacrificial system was established in the Garden of Eden to cover their sins. The slaying of the sacrificial lamb pointed forward to:

"the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." (Rev 13:8)

and provided the skins to cover their nakedness, as:

Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

Why do you always try to make a religion out of what the Bible does not say while ignoring what it clearly does say?


---jerry6593 on 2/9/14


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Jerry, Deeper? You said the same thing I did!
There's no indication in Genesis that pre flood people knew how or if God was going to "undo" Adam's sin!
Bruising the head and heel was not explained in terms of sacrifice! When was the "Lamb of God" explained to them?
People don't just automatically know events of the future without being told!
How did Cain or Able know that animal sacrifices were better than vegetable ones (like Cain's)
---1st_cliff on 2/8/14


Cliff: You just keep digging yourself in deeper. There has been no Creation since Genesis - only degeneration. Jesus' works were not creating new life forms, but rather teaching and healing.

While it is true that pagans sacrifice to placate an angry god, that is not the case with sacrifices to Jehovah. Those were done as looking forward in faith to the sacrifice of the one, true "Lamb of God who taketh away the sins of the world". Big difference!




---jerry6593 on 2/8/14


Jerry,God rested in relation to creation affecting our earth, ask yourself , what has been created since Genesis? But truly Jesus made that statement, He's been working but had no relevance to us!
What He works at we don't know!
There was no command to sacrifice, they obviously felt the need to on there own.
Pagans have always sacrificed too in the belief that it held some merit with their gods!
---1st_cliff on 2/7/14


Sanctified means "set apart" With no instructions there is no law! 1st_cliff

I do not understand your reasoning. We do not read in Genesis the command to offer sacrifices yet we know he did. He sanctified or set the day apart but only for himself? For what reason would GOD set apart a day for himself?

The Fourth Commandment reminds people that GOD set apart the Sabbath at creation. So I believe GOD though Moses knows more then we do.

Then you say Sabbath for GOD never ended. But GOD works every day as Jesus pointed out.
John 5:17

But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
I know you will try again to come up with any reason not to spend a whole day with GOD. Why?
---Samuelbb7 on 2/7/14


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Cliff: "With no instructions there is no law!(or even a suggestion for that matter)"

You are self-contradictory. With no instruction you have declared the Fourth Commandment null and void, notwithstanding God's instruction to remember it.

Were the Commandments in effect before Moses? Let the Bible speak:

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.




---jerry6593 on 2/7/14


Samuel, I've never quoted Calvin, or the tulip, you include that every time.
No where are we told by God that Saturday is the Sabbath. He mentions the seventh day under the written law to Israel. Saturday was instituted by man. Not God. If it was God then show where He said Saturday was the Sabbath.
Second, those in Christ are not under the written law, the law condemns. The written law is for the unrighteous, the ungodly without Christ. Those under the law are under the curse. ""Curse is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them" (Gal. 3:10).
If you are under the law, you were never saved, and you are still condemned and heading to hell. Think about that.
---Mark_V. on 2/7/14


Jerry, Sorry the word is suit!
Sanctified means "set apart"
God is the one who rested and set apart this day and does not say "evening and morning a seventh day" as to mean it never officially "ended" like the other six! with no command to humans involving this "seventh day" at that time!
With no instructions there is no law!(or even a suggestion for that matter)
---1st_cliff on 2/6/14


"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." John 4:23,24

"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands, Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things." Acts 17:24,25

Only on Saturday or Sunday? Ya, right...
---christan on 2/6/14


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Jerry, At what point in history did observance of the Sabbath become law? (with penalties)
At creation the bible says God rested but does not say anything about humans following siut, now does it?
---1st_cliff on 2/6/14


So Cliff2 you want a verse about Sabbath keeping more than the statement by GOD about the day.
Gen 2:3

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Tell me what does Sanctified mean?

There are a lot of things about Adam and Eve not mentioned. Where does it say Adam and Eve offered sacrifices? So according to you that means it never happened.

The Sabbath was being kept before the Ten Commandments were given by the way.
Exd 16:26

Six days ye shall gather it, but on the seventh day, which is the sabbath, in it there shall be none.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/6/14


//
Steveng, BCV please where Adam and Eve observed Sabbath! (or any pre flood persons ,for that matter)

---1st_cliff on 2/5/14 //


BCV please where anyone throughout the Bible observed Sunday as a holy day.

You have already been shown where God wrote with His own finger that the holy Seventh-day Sabbath was instituted at Creation. The entire world (with the exception of MarkV and maybe you) know that the day we call Saturday is the one true Seventh-day Sabbath. Who do you think made Sunday holy? Justin Martyr? Constantine? The Pope?
---jerry6593 on 2/6/14


MarkV You admit that the day of worship you follow is not set by GOD. But by man.

You also do not believe what John Calvin taught in many sermons about the law and it's purposes. By your words your are saying that Calvin is lost since we use his same arguments about keeping the Ten Commandments.

Are you saying that Paul is lost since he taught that the commandment are not done away with.

Rom 3:31
Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 7:7
Rom 7:22

For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

Yes MarkV I did. Read the Bible verses that I posted. Where GOD showed which day was Sabbath to the Jews. They and History have not forgotten it.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/6/14


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Steveng, BCV please where Adam and Eve observed Sabbath! (or any pre flood persons ,for that matter)
---1st_cliff on 2/5/14


1st_cliff: "Jerry, OK let's stay with scripture.
Show a scripture that indicates God commanding an observance of Sabbath prior to the year 1600BC ! and/or any recorded observance of Sabbath by any race of people before Moses' time!"

There are many truths that is only found through reasoning.

Ecclesiastes 7:25
Isaiah 1:18
Daniel 4:36
John 12:11
Acts 17:2
Acts 18:4, 19
Acts 24:25
---Steveng on 2/5/14


Samuel, you wrote a whole lot and not once did you show where God said the Sabbath was to be Saturday. You won't find it. It is not there. No matter how much you try to say God said it, He never said it. The Jews followed Saturday. The New Covenant believers follow Sunday. And if they wanted it could be Monday or Tuesday, there is no law for believers, the just, the law is for the unjust the godless.
New Covenant believers live by faith in Jesus Christ.
The more you resist, the more you resist the Spirit of the Law that cannot condemn you, You rather follow the written letter of the law that condemns you, I do not understand your way of thinking. The law is condemning all those under the law.
---Mark_V. on 2/5/14


Jerry, OK let's stay with scripture.
Show a scripture that indicates God commanding an observance of Sabbath prior to the year 1600BC ! and/or any recorded observance of Sabbath by any race of people before Moses' time!
---1st_cliff on 2/5/14


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Adam and Eve knew of their punishment because God told them. They obeyed the seventh day as holy and passed it on tho their seed. The Israelites took over this command and they were to remember it. The command to make the seventh day holy must have exiested in order to remember it.

Israel had their own calendar to make sure all the sabbaths and THE sabbath was observed. During the years they were rewarded they were obeying God's command to observe the sabbath. They have used their calendar to this very day.

Now, overlay the Gregorian calenday over the Jewish calenday and you will know for sure what day the Jewish sabbath falls on. It so happens to be on Saturday on the Gregorian calendar.
---Steveng on 2/4/14


Israel did not decide which day was the Seventh GOD told them. He used Hebrew instead of the Roman word which we use today of Saturday. He told them in the writings of Moses starting in
Gen 2:2,3
And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made, and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

He reminded them by Miracles in Exodus 16:25-31 and the Ten Commandments Exodus 20. They still follow the same day. So yes the Sabbath is on Saturday and no the Church was never told to worship on another day.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/4/14


1Cliff, of course you are correct about what you asked, but I also want to add that when the Sabbath came to Israel as a law it was never mentioned it would be Saturday. Keep the seventh day Sabbath could have been any day. No name of day was given, since we are never told what day God started creation. Only that He did and rested on the seventh day. Israel used Saturday as their seventh day, New Covenant believers use Sunday as the day of Sabbath, since they are not under the Law given to Israel.
Jerry had told me God said Saturday, but He never did.
---Mark_V. on 2/4/14


Cliff: "My question was When? Scripture says from circa 1525 BC. For 3 thousand years there was no instituted "Sabbath" Right? (we can proceed from this point once you answer)"

Sorry Cliff, but my Bible does not say 1525 BC. Where is that found? My Bible says that Sabbath was instituted on the seventh day of Creation. So you are NOT RIGHT. (We can proceed from this point once you agree with the Bible.)



---jerry6593 on 2/4/14


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Jerry,The spiritual rock and spiritual drink was of course "figurative" so the "rock" being Christ was also figurative because ultimately he is the Saviour of mankind!
That the Sabbath was instituted as a memorial is not the issue I raised.
My question was When? Scripture says from circa 1525 BC. For 3 thousand years there was no instituted "Sabbath" Right? (we can proceed from this point once you answer)
---1st_cliff on 2/3/14


Exodus 35:2 Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day...
Neh 10:31 ...[that] we would not buy it of them on the sabbath, or on the holy day...
-It seems God made other days holy as well, else verses would not separate the Sabbath from the holy days.
-But, if you are inclined to go that route Jerry:
Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath [days]:
-This says I still cannot let you judge me in respect of a holyday.
-You can't have it both ways Jerry. One way or another Col 2:16 speaks of the 7th day of rest.
---micha9344 on 2/3/14


Exodus 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.
Cliff, this does not say that the Father used His finger. Nor, do I think that you believe the Father has a finger, being spirit.
Luke 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.
---micha9344 on 2/3/14


Cliff: The Fourth Commandment itself clearly states that the Sabbath was instituted as a MEMORIAL of God's 6-day Creation so that we would REMEMBER who created the heavens and the earth.

As for Jesus being the God of the Exodus, most Christians believe:

1Co 10:1-4 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea, And did all eat the same spiritual meat, And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and THAT ROCK WAS CHRIST.



---jerry6593 on 2/3/14


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Atetunji, Christ is God's Son!
He is not His own Father!
Jesus taking to His Father was not "soliloquy"!
---1st_cliff on 2/3/14


1stcliff: //Jerry, YHWH wrote the commandments ,nowhere does it say Jesus did! // Who is the Lord Jesus Christ to you?
---Adetunji on 2/2/14


There is a difference between sabbaths and THE sabbath.

The sabbath was ordained to be holy on the seventh day of creation. Genesis 2:3 And it will be observe unto the very last day before the return of Jesus. Matthew 24:20

The fourth commandmnet is the only commandment that began with the word "remember." Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. One can only remember something when it was stated in the past to begin with.

When one overlays the Gregorian calendar over the Jewish calenday one would find the sabbath falls on a Saturday.

Do an online KJV bible seach for the word "sabbath" and read all posts.
---Steveng on 2/2/14


Jerry, YHWH wrote the commandments ,nowhere does it say Jesus did! This is your own idea! (plus ,of course,other trinitarians) AND
Nowhere does it indicate that there was an established Sabbath prior to 1512BC !
Maybe I'm missing something, please show me where anyone observed Sabbath before that date.
---1st_cliff on 2/2/14


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Cliff: "Jerry, No, Jesus was correct in quoting Moses"

Wrong! Moses quoted Jesus. Jesus wrote with His own finger in stone that He instituted the Seventh-day Sabbath at creation. (See Exo 20:8-11 AGAIN.)

Exo 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.



Michael: Please show BCV where God made ANY day HOLY other than the Seventh-day Sabbath. Your last attempt failed.




---jerry6593 on 2/2/14


Jerry, you have gotten hundreds of answers to the questions you always post and yet it is not good enough. you are happy doing Saturday Sabbath but that does not cure your problem. You demand everyone do what you do. Why are you not happy in your life? You believe you are doing the right thing, yet you are not happy. You read the answers found in the New Testament but you insist on people to go under the law, to put themselves back into condemnation. They don't want to be condemned again. They law saves no one. No one wants the yoke that was taken away from us, we are set free by Christ Himself. You sound like you do not want or need Christ. Don't expect to see anyone who is truly saved to go back under the letter of the law. Just not possible.
---Mark_V. on 2/2/14


"Who do you think made Sunday holy, and when did that take place?"
-God does every day.
Psa 118:24 This [is] the day [which] the LORD hath made, we will rejoice and be glad in it.
"I know that you want more than just about anything for the Bible to actually say that Sunday (1st day of the week) is the new and improved holy Christian Sabbath day"
-False.
Exo 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
/Inserting "Jew" or "Israel" into my questions does not alter what the Bible says.\
-True.
2Tim 3:16
"If you were consistent in your logic, you would have to conclude that you could not be a Christian because Christ was a Jew."
-False
Acts:10:45
---micha9344 on 1/31/14


Jerry, No, Jesus was correct in quoting Moses,(circa 1512 BC) at which time the six days of work and one day of rest was instituted!
Before that time man was never instructed to keep Sabbath!
You think? BCV please.
---1st_cliff on 1/31/14


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Samuel, you say,
"I believe all Christians should honor the day that GOD set aside for a Holy Purpose." Of course, you are an SDA who follow the written Law given to Israel. They worshiped on Saturdays. We as Christians are not under the written letter of the Law. If we were, we would be under condemnation.
I believe as a Christian we should honor God everyday of the week. Our rest is in Christ, He is our Sabbath.
Then say," That Christians should actually spend time in study, worship and contemplation as well as helping other. Instead of as today. When most do not even take 3 hours before they have to be off to watch a football game." I believe the same, but everyday.
---Mark_V. on 1/31/14


Cliff: "So for thee [sic] thousand years there was no "sabbath"! Why? . [sic]"

Sorry Cliff, but either you are wrong or Jesus is. He wrote:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Looks to me like the Sabbath was instituted at Creation Week, and has been kept by the people of God ever since. Who do you think made Sunday holy, and when did that take place? I think I'll stick with God and His holy day while you and your demigod keep the Venerable Day of the Sun.




---jerry6593 on 1/31/14


Michael: I know that you want more than just about anything for the Bible to actually say that Sunday (1st day of the week) is the new and improved holy Christian Sabbath day, but it simply does not. Inserting "Jew" or "Israel" into my questions does not alter what the Bible says. If you were consistent in your logic, you would have to conclude that you could not be a Christian because Christ was a Jew. How silly!

"There is no scriptural evidence of the change of the Sabbath institution from the seventh to the first day of the week." - Edward T. Hiscox,
author of The Baptist Manual.



---jerry6593 on 1/31/14


Jerry, When instructing Adam in dos and don'ts of life, he never mentioned a day of rest!
So for thee thousand years there was no "sabbath"! Why? .
---1st_cliff on 1/30/14


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It is even more easy when the question are complete.
Q - Which day of the week did God command (Israel) "to keep holy"?
Q - Which day of the week did Jesus (an Israelite) customarily keep?
Q - Which day of the week did Jesus (as the Son of Man) claim He was Lord of?
Q - Which day of the week is the seventh day Sabbath?
A - ...(cf. Luk 23:56)
--This one is interesting, Luke doesn't mention Fri, Sat, nor Sun
Q - What scripture authorizes the keeping of the first day of the week as holy?
A - .................
As opposed to: Acts 15:24, Col 2:16
---micha9344 on 1/30/14


Thank you Cluny for that information. Yes I was mistaken it was 1stcliff who said Luke was a Gentile. I apologize for my mistake.

Dear Markv

I believe all Christians should honor the day that GOD set aside for a Holy Purpose. That Christians should actually spend time in study, worship and contemplation as well as helping other. Instead of as today. When most do not even take 3 hours before they have to be off to watch a football game.

I also do not understand why a tradition not based on scripture can be used to replace what the Bible says.

Protestants treat the other nine commandments as true and to be followed. Why is the 4th a bad law?
---Samuelbb7 on 1/30/14


Jerry, for you information the resurrection of Christ is Biblical. Look it up.
Still trying to spread the written letter of the law I see. Why are you not happy that you keep the Saturday Sabbath? If you believe in the written Law and want to keep the Sabbath the Jews followed, why is it not enough for you? Why do you have to insist for everyone to do what you do? Why?
You are a sinner like everyone else, so it cannot be that, why are you not happy in what you do?
---Mark_V. on 1/30/14


OK Class - this is not hard.

Q - Which day of the week did God command "to keep holy"?
A - The seventh day Sabbath. (cf. Exo 20:8-11)

Q - Which day of the week did Jesus customarily keep?
A - The seventh day Sabbath. (cf. Luk 4:16)

Q - Which day of the week did Jesus claim He was Lord of?
A - The seventh day Sabbath. (cf. Mat 12:8)

Q - Which day of the week is the seventh day Sabbath?
A - The day between Crucifixion Friday and Resurrection Sunday. (cf. Luk 23:56)

Q - What scripture authorizes the keeping of the first day of the week as holy?
A - .................


---jerry6593 on 1/30/14


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The book of Luke does not identify the author, it is attributed to him by deduction!
---1st_cliff on 1/29/14


\\So yes you can guess Luke might have been a Gentile. But the Bible does not say so.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/29/14\\

I think you're confusing me with someone else, which is easy to do here. I never said that Luke was a Jew, or not one.

Tradition does identify him and Cleopas as the two who met the Risen Jesus on the road to Emmaus.

However, Luke and Acts are the most elevated, literary Greek of the Bible, which suggests that the author of these two books was a native speaker. The most ungrammatical is Revelation.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/29/14


Luke was definately not Jewish as he was never Circumsized.
---Blogger9211 on 1/29/14


Dear Cluny that is point of dispute. One Scholar wrote:

A couple of other lines of reasoning support the idea that Luke was a Jew. In the introduction to the book of Luke, Luke introduces the information he is giving with this statement: "Even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word." Here, Luke includes himself as one of the eyewitnesses which were from the beginning. Perhaps the beginning here refers to the early work of the apostles, but this still tends to identify Luke as a Jew. The earlier the time, the greater chance that the person was a Jew.

So yes you can guess Luke might have been a Gentile. But the Bible does not say so.
---Samuelbb7 on 1/29/14


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\\Its name in English is day of the Sun or Sunday.\\

And in other languages, it's called Lord's Day:

Kyriake in Greek.

Dominica in Latin (whence Spanish Domingo and French Dimache).

In Russian, it's called Resurrection.

Now what?

Glory to Jesus Chris!
---Cluny on 1/29/14


Samuel, **Jews also wrote the new testament**
Luke was not a Jew !
---1st_cliff on 1/29/14


Ten commandments-Sabath holy convacation of God/mainstream christianity-Sunday replaced original day.Those were the shadow of things to come.Col.2:16-17 The Jewish Sabath was abolish' at the cross where Christ " cancelled the written code",with it' regulations Col.2:14, Rom.14:5,6a

Love of Jesus! Lidia4796
---Lidia4796 on 1/28/14


Yes the Ten Commandments was shown to Israel. As well as the entire Bible. Jews also wrote the New Testament.

GOD numbered the days of the week. The Jews still follow that number system and the whole world has adopted it. Sunday is the first day of the week the day on which JESUS arose. Its name in English is day of the Sun or Sunday. The Seventh day is Saturday after Saturn. But Sabado in Spanish. The Sabbath in English. A day JESUS and the early church kept. Mentioned many times in the New Testament.

Sunday is never mentioned as a special day in the New Testament. Calvin and most church leaders taught that the Ten Commandments are for Christians to obey. In fact only one of the Ten is in question. Why do you think that is?
---Samuelbb7 on 1/28/14


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But is this biblical? No.
The LORD's day is neither Saturday nor Sunday. The LORD's day is the period of time immediately following His return through the final judgement. Rev. 1:7 marks the beginning of that day, Rev. 21:2 marks the end.
---josef on 1/27/14


Jerry, many Christians also believe that Saturday was never mentioned by God all through Scripture. That is why you do not find one passage where God said He started creation on Sunday and rested Saturday. or that Saturday was the day of Sabbath. In fact man made the calendar. Man decided Saturday would be the seventh day, and man decided later that Sunday would be the day of the Sabbath. But as believers in Christ every day is a day of Sabbath with the Lord. There is no law that commits us to any day, with the exception of the SDA's. They are commit to the law Israel was under.
---Mark_V. on 1/27/14


No, the change was made by Constantine who was overtly anti-Semitic!
---1st_cliff on 1/25/14


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