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Matthew 8:28 says "two" people. Mark 5:7 & Luke 8:28 says "a man". Since we Christians know there are no contradictions in the Bible, how can this be explained?

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"...The man, delivered, obeyed and became a blessing."
---Chria9396 on 3/8/14


Yes Chira, there was only one man in the tombs who was delivered by Jesus. God's will be done...
---Leon on 3/8/14


Leon,
Thanks.
Ive had several visitors at different times at my home and less time to finish replies.

""God's will (not man's wants) be done in all matters, on earth as it is in heaven. Jesus gave the demon-freed man clear instructions to go speak to & be a living testimony to his own people about what God had done for him. That was the role/ministry the man was to perform in life on earth for the kingdom of God. (Matthew 6:9-13)""
I think this is correct as God does as He pleases, His will...

I had never noticed this detail in the account before.

The man, delivered, obeyed and became a blessing.
---Chria9396 on 3/8/14


---Leon on 2/20/14: Well spoken or composed.
---Adetunji on 2/27/14


"...Where is/was Decapolis in relation to Gergesenes?"
---Chria9396 on 2/20/14


The Decapolis was a ten city region of which Gergasa, or the country of the Gergesenes, was a part of.
---Leon on 2/20/14


And where was his house considering that he lived in the tombs?
Mk says "go home...Decapolis" home?

Mk 5:18-20 "And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel."

Where is/was Decapolis in relation to Gergesenes?
---Chria9396 on 2/20/14




"...Why did Jesus send him away if he wanted to be with him?"
---Chria9396 on 2/20/14


Chria: God's will (not man's wants) be done in all matters, on earth as it is in heaven. Jesus gave the demon-freed man clear instructions to go speak to & be a living testimony to his own people about what God had done for him. That was the role/ministry the man was to perform in life on earth for the kingdom of God. (Matthew 6:9-13)
---Leon on 2/20/14


We all can see Jesus and we don't need to speak. When Jesus walks by, you won't have to ask, you will know it. I've been in services that felt the presence of God so strong, the hair on my head stood up. It was awesome. Many have never experienced that.
---shir4368 on 2/20/14


Leon, appreciating your posts, so, although the man did not/could not speak, when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him Mk5:6
Interesting also: Mk 5:2 when he(Jesus) was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
Jesus came and left afterwards, with just that purpose.
Also
Lk 8:38,39 Now the man out of whom the devils were departed besought him that he might be with him: but Jesus sent him away, saying,
Return to thine own house, and shew how great things God hath done unto thee. And he went his way, and published throughout the whole city how great things Jesus had done unto him.

Why did Jesus send him away if he wanted to be with him?
and...
---Chria9396 on 2/20/14


Chria: I believe only the demons who controlled the man "cried out" (spoke) in unison. Being demon tormented, the man was always crying & cutting himself with stones. Seeing Jesus, he ran & worshipped (fell down, prostrated himself before) Him. Scripture doesn't say he said anything (or could possibly say anything) to Jesus before the demons were cast out of him. (Mk. 5:5-6)

Note: Mk. 5:5-6 says the tormented man ran & worshipped Jesus. Seems like he was desperately seeking deliverance from the devils. But the devils loudly spoke up & tried to defend themselves by declaring they had no business with Jesus, & then begged Him not to torment them.
---Leon on 2/12/14


"Leon, it sound like you are just a bunch of sour grapes who cannot admit when he has been proven wrong by a more knowledgeable Bible scholar. Luke was never a Gospel it is just a long letter as Acts is."
---Blogger9211 on 2/7/14


Really?!!! :D 2 Timothy 3, specifically verse 7, applies to false teachers like you Blogger.
---Leon on 2/7/14




KJB - Opening intro to the Book Luke - Not the Bible of coarse , But this is what it say's in KJB open page to luke,

Background - Luke's is the longest and most thorough of the 4 Gospels. --------------->
---RichardC on 2/7/14


Leon, it sound like you are just a bunch of sour grapes who cannot admit when he has been proven wrong by a more knowledgeable Bible scholar.

Luke was never a Gospel it is just a long letter as Acts is.
---Blogger9211 on 2/7/14


Chria: I believe only the demons who controlled the man "cried out" (spoke) in unison. Being demon tormented, the man was always crying & cutting himself with stones. Seeing Jesus, he ran & worshipped (fell down, prostrated himself before) Him. Scripture doesn't say he said anything to Jesus. (Mk. 5:5-6)

Matt. 8:24-27 says there was a violently windy rain storm (tempest) while Jesus & disciples were at sea. Possibly fog was on the ground when they got to Gergesenes. Wherein Jesus saw a man at His feet, the fearful disciples were likely lagging behind & because of the fog couldn't see clearly. So, they mistook the one man for two because of the "unison" of voices coming out of him.
---Leon on 2/7/14


"Try Reading Luke 1-4 have you ever seen a Gospel Specifically addressed to a single indivudual."-Blogger9211 on 2/6/14
-Yes, yes, I have.
-It is called the "Gospel according to Luke" and all 4 of the Gospels have a uniqueness to them, yet proclaim the same message.
---micha9344 on 2/7/14


Leon: //The Book of Luke is very much a part of the Good News (Gospel) of Jesus Christ if you're a Born Again Believers. //
You are very correct, the Lord has ministered to me from the book of Luke before.
---Adetunji on 2/7/14


""So Chria, what do you think the "two" were? Were they
smurf, hobbit, dwarf, elf, gremlin, muppet, one eyed ~ one horned ~ flying, purple people eater, etc?
---Leon on 2/5/14"
person(s) implied. I'd agree with 2 distinct personalities given the context and cross references. Interesting to note how "they" spoke in unison. Also, interesting that Matthew only takes the "two" perspective. Something to think about. Was he alone privy to some information the others were not...his perspective while different in some aspects is equally valid.
---Chria9396 on 2/7/14


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Blogger: Like I said, that's a really arrogant & blind assertion. The Book of Luke is very much a part of the Good News (Gospel) of Jesus Christ if you're a Born Again Believers. Obviously, you aren't. So, I won't discuss it with you further. This blog is about an altogether different subject of which you can't possibly understand given the distance you've placed between you & God.
---Leon on 2/6/14


Leon, it looks as if you have never read the beginnings of Luke or Acts.

Try Reading Luke 1-4 have you ever seen a Gospel Specifically addressed to a single indivudual.

Look at Acts 1-3 again a long letter specifically addressed to Theophilus and now one else is that not how personal letters begin Leon.

---Blogger9211 on 2/6/14


"Luke is not a gospel it is just the first of two long letters to the Roman Magistrate Theophilus [Greek - Lover Of YHWH] as Acts was the second letter."
---Blogger9211 on 2/5/14


That's a really arrogant & blind assertion Blogger. The Book of Luke is very much a part of the Good News (Gospel) of Jesus Christ to Born Again Believers.
---Leon on 2/6/14


Luke is not a gospel it is just the first of two long letters to the Roman Magistrate Theophilus [Greek - Lover Of YHWH] as Acts was the second letter.
---Blogger9211 on 2/5/14


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"Two men? NOT EXACTLY! Two distinct personalities? YES!!!"
---Leon on 2/3/14

No where does it say Men or people, rather:
"Mat 8:28 ...there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs..."
---Chria9396 on 2/5/14


So Chria, what do you think the "two" were? Were they
smurf, hobbit, dwarf, elf, gremlin, muppet, one eyed ~ one horned ~ flying, purple people eater, etc?
---Leon on 2/5/14


"Two men? NOT EXACTLY! Two distinct personalities? YES!!!"
---Leon on 2/3/14

No where does it say Men or people, rather:
"Mat 8:28 ...there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs..."


"Jesus then called Matthew to follow Him.
---Leon on 2/3/14"
Interesting.
---Chria9396 on 2/5/14


Matthew described what was told him by eyewitness(es), i.e., Peter, Andrew, John or James. Actually, by saying two men he implied "one man" acting like two men. That squares with Mark & Luke's accounts which they had to have gotten from yet living eyewitness(es) since they, as well as Matthew, weren't there.

The Lord of the Rings character Smeagol, who became evil Gollum, is a good example of the demon possessed man Jesus healed. He had a split personality. Today it's called Dissociative Identity Disorder. Possessed by Gollum, tormented Smeagol had to share his body with that devil. They were "two" distinctly different personalities talking & inhabiting "one" body.
---Leon on 2/4/14


"matthew, mark, luke and [john?] gave what they saw from their prospective. everyone would see things different and not any would be a lie."
---shira4368 on 2/4/14


Dear Shira: I agree, no one lied! Four different men with four different personalities would definitely see & express their views from four individual perspectives (view points).

I believe God inspired & used each of them to describe the exact same thing in their own way. There's no doubt in my mind Matthew said the exact same thing as Mark & Luke but in his own individual way of expressing himself.
---Leon on 2/4/14


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matthew, mark, luke and john gave what they saw from their prospective. everyone would see things different and not any would be a lie.
---shira4368 on 2/4/14


"You are correct. Matthew mentions two, but Mark and Luke only mention one. Mark and Luke do not say that there was only one. Maybe the one was more vile and of greater reputation? Maybe one was only possessed with one devil, but the other with legions? It seems as though one of the ones possessed made a much larger impression on Mark and Luke than the other."
---trey on 2/3/14


HUH? :/
---Leon on 2/3/14


"Leon, You're right about Mathew not being there, I believe there is some confusion about just who was speaking to who. It appears that Christ was talking to the demons in that all of them were exorcised!"
---1st_cliff on 2/3/14


Yes Sir!!! :)
---Leon on 2/3/14


You are correct. Matthew mentions two, but Mark and Luke only mention one. Mark and Luke do not say that there was only one. Maybe the one was more vile and of greater reputation? Maybe one was only possessed with one devil, but the other with legions? It seems as though one of the ones possessed made a much larger impression on Mark and Luke than the other.
---trey on 2/3/14


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Leon, You're right about Mathew not being there, I believe there is some confusion about just who was speaking to who.
It appears that christ was talking to the demons in that all of them were exorcised !
---1st_cliff on 2/3/14


"...contradictions in scripture...YHWH [didn't] write the Bible, it was written by humans...[?]
...the only eyewitness... Matthew.[?] [We're] not certain who Mark really is...Luke attempts to write about events [he's] not qualified to write about... When you see things in Luke or Acts...not confirmed by Matthew, John or Paul they [shouldn't] be considered factual.[?] Luke makes errors in order of events, who was at events, importance of events because he was Gentile...not Palestinian."
---Blogger9211 on 2/2/14


Says who, you? Don't be so quick to denounce & falsely interpret Scripture by jumping to wrong conclusions just because you don't see reality.
---Leon on 2/3/14


"1Cliff...[you're] right...Mark [says]...one...[they're] giving the account from their [view][?]...Mark [speaks]...of...one [man] who [spoke]...to Jesus...the more prominent of the two [men][?] (Matt. 8:28)...in Matt. 8:29 he was speaking for the two, not [both] talking [simultaneously].[?]"
---Mark_V. on 2/3/14


If that's true Mark, shouldn't there have been "two" men, clothed & in their right mind, & delivered of demons (Mk. 5:15-20 & Lk. 8:35-39) or did Jesus just set free the one who spoke up & left the other in a wretched demon possessed condition? Scripture says ALL of the demons went into the hogs.

By the way, John Mark nor Luke were eyewitnesses, but both got the facts right.
---Leon on 2/3/14


"..Although there were two men possessed, as recorded by Matthew, Jesus' eye witness, only one spoke to Christ as reported by Luke and Mark."
---1st_cliff on 1/31/14


Two men? NOT EXACTLY! Two distinct personalities? YES!!!

Matthew "wasn't" an eyewitness. he wasn't yet a disciple ~ wasn't with Jesus at the time. As I understand it, Jesus had only four disciples (Peter, Andrew, John & James) when he met the demon possessed man in Gadarene. They were the only eyewitnesses, along with the man who was delivered of the demons, & of course Jesus.

After returning from Gadarene, via boat (public transport, sea bus?) to Capernaum, Jesus then called Matthew to follow Him.
---Leon on 2/3/14


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1Cliff, again I believe you are right with your answer. Mark mentions only one, but they are giving the account from their own perspective. What I believe Mark is doing is giving the account of the one who was speaking to Jesus only, looks like he was probably the more prominent of the two (Matt. 8:28). When the passage in (Matt. 8:29) says
"And suddenly they cried out, saying "What have we to do with you," He said we, he was speaking for the two, not the two talking at one time.
---Mark_V. on 2/3/14


Mat 8:28 ...there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs...
Mar 5:2 ...immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit...
Luk 8:27 ...there met him out of the city a certain man, which had devils long time, and ware no clothes, neither abode in any house, but in the tombs.
-I believe Matthews account was from someone who was there and the accounts from Mark and Luke were from the man that Jesus told to tell the story abroad. In his previous state, he might not of even known a second man was there. The Bible does not say what happened to the second man.
4 men are sitting around a barn, each one proclaiming it to be a different color: Who is right?
---micha9344 on 2/3/14


blogger, the Holy bible is inspired by God as He guided the writing by men. yes, God did write the bible. the bible is so simple yet complicated and you can find deep things in God's Word when studying.
---shira4368 on 2/3/14


blogger, can you tell me a contradiction in the king james bible. maybe it isn't perfect but there are no contradictions.
---shira4368 on 2/3/14


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There are contradictions in scripture because YHWH did not write the Bible, it was written by humans and some authors were better writers than others.
---Blogger9211 on 2/2/14


In this is account it is best to trust an eye witness and the only eye witness to the event was Matthew. We are not certain who Mark really is. And regrettably Luke attempts to write about events he is not qualified to write about because he lacks primary sources other than when he is discussing his experiences with Paul. Luke never saw Christ in his life, he simply re-states the embellished accounts of others people. When you see things in Luke or Acts that are not confirmed by Matthew, John or Paul they should not be considered factual. Luke makes errors in order of events, who was at events, importance of events because he was Gentile and not Palestinian.
---Blogger9211 on 2/2/14


Leon, Although there were two men possessed,as recorded by Matthew, Jesus' eye witness,only one spoke to Christ as reported by Luke and Mark.
---1st_cliff on 1/31/14


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