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God Breathed Scriptures

We believe that the Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments as originally written were God-breathed, both verbally and in every part.

Many churches declare the above statement.
Where did this originate?
What does it mean?
Is it legitimate and accurate?
How is it important today?

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Plenty of skins on which he could write.
But, maybe some don't know that animal skins were and are used as parchment.
Also, being by the Red Sea/Gulf of Aqaba, there were probably some good plants, like papyrus, on which to write.
Exo 17:14 And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this [for] a memorial in a book, and rehearse [it] in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.
Not everything from Moses' time was written on stone.
If the primary language of Israel was Egyptian after 400 years there, starting with just 70 people, how is it that millions learned Hebrew in just a short time of 40 years, give or take?
The other option is: They knew Hebrew already.
---micha9344 on 7/2/14


Good points Micha. I believe that 40 years is quite enough time to learn to write Hebrew. Also consider watching sheep does not require you look at them all the time. :)
---Samuelbb7 on 6/30/14


/It is doubtful that Moses could have mastered written Proto-Hebrew and then have written the five books of the Torah, as busy as he was doing everything else he did.\-love.jesus on 6/14/14
Hebrew-Of the descendants of Eber.
From Eber to Abraham, all were of Eber, Hebrews.
Midian was a son of Abraham, the Hebrew.
Moses lived with Jethro, the priest of Midian for forty years.
I rather believe if he didn't learn Hebrew in Egypt, he definitely did from being in Midian.
Also, it was quite a while before Israel was turned into slaves. They lived at peace with the Egyptians for many years, growing in number until a pharaoh that was not taught Joseph realized Israel had outnumbered Egypt.
Very plausible, hardly doubtful.
---micha9344 on 6/26/14


Matthew 4:4 - But he answered and said , It is written Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God,
---RICHARDC on 6/21/14


Jeremiah 36:4 - Then Jeremiah called Baruch the son of Neriah, and Baruch wrote from the mouth of Jeremiah all the words of the Lord , which he had spoken him, upon a roll of a Book.
---RICHARDC on 6/21/14




The Bible is the word of God.

But even more so, Jesus is the Word of God.

I am curious, Samuel, why you thought I didn't believe the Bible was the Word of God. God be with you.
---love.jesus on 6/17/14


//The Hebrew people of today know Hebrew.../

Biblical Hebrew is similar to modern Hebrew, but knowing modern Hebrew doesn't mean one can read Biblical Hebrew.

Proto-Hebrew came before Biblical Hebrew. Proto-came from Phoenician alphabet, and Biblical Hebrew letters came from Aramaic during the time of the return of the exile...that's the simple version of events. Samaritans of today still use proto-Hebrew, being that it is God's language.

Who wrote and in what language was the OT originally verbally written? Proto-Hebrew didn't begin until about the time of King David, 1000 BCE.
---Rod4Him on 6/17/14


The Hebrew people of today know Hebrew even though they have lived for centuries in many countries. Still they know their language.

So love.jesus why are you denying the Bible is the word of GOD?
---Samuelbb7 on 6/17/14


Cluny, I see. I'm not part of that group.
---love.jesus on 6/15/14


love.jesus, it was a reference to the Mornomoids and the Book for Morons.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/14




Cluny, not claiming that. I don't know what you mean. Blessed day to you.
---love.jesus on 6/14/14


\\It is doubtful that Moses could have mastered written Proto-Hebrew and then have written the five books of the Torah,\\

As I said, proto-Hebrew petroglyphs dating to pharonic times were found in caves in Egypt.

Or are you claiming, with the Mutants from Kolob, that maybe the OT was originally written in "reformed Egyptian"?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/14/14


Normally slaves, after a long time, especially after centuries, would have adopted the language of their masters. It is masters who decide what language is spoken, not slaves. So it is most probable that the Israelites, as they left Egypt, were speaking Egyptian. It is doubtful that Moses could have mastered written Proto-Hebrew and then have written the five books of the Torah, as busy as he was doing everything else he did.
---love.jesus on 6/14/14


\\I wonder where Moses learned to write like that, as he was brought up speaking the Egyptian language.
---love.jesus on 6/13/14
\\

Don't forget that his Hebrew biological mother nursed him.

And it would have been necessary to know SOME Hebrew to be able to communicate with the slaves.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/13/14


Michael, Pharaoh's daughter had Moses from infancy. It is doubtful that he would have learned how to write anything but Egyptian in Pharaoh's court. And even that is doubtful because in those ancient cultures the only people who learned how to write were the priests.
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


Exo 2:7-10 Then said his sister to Pharaoh's daughter, Shall I go and call to thee a nurse of the Hebrew women, that she may nurse the child for thee? And Pharaoh's daughter said to her, Go. And the maid went and called the child's mother. And Pharaoh's daughter said unto her, Take this child away, and nurse it for me, and I will give [thee] thy wages. And the woman took the child, and nursed it. And the child grew, and she brought him unto Pharaoh's daughter, and he became her son. And she called his name Moses: and she said, Because I drew him out of the water.
Where do you get the idea he just learned the Egyptian language and ways?
---micha9344 on 6/13/14


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I wonder where Moses learned to write like that, as he was brought up speaking the Egyptian language.
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


\\When did Moses have time to do all that writing? What language did he write in? What did he use for writing material? Just curious\\

Good question.

Moses might have dictated some of it to scribes.

The language was some kind of proto-Semitic or proto-Hebrew. Graffiti in such a script have been found in caves in Egypt.

The traditional material on which to write Torah scrolls is animal parchment.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/13/14


When did Moses have time to do all that writing? What language did he write in? What did he use for writing material? Just curious...
---love.jesus on 6/12/14


The Pentateuch or Torah was mostly written by Moses about 1400 to 1500 years before Christ.

You can look up the dates for the rest in a number of places. Those who do not believe the Bible is true has a very different set of dates since they assume from the start the Bible is false and make up their own times.


2Ti 3:16

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

This was written by Paul and is part of the New Testament.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/12/14


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Concerning the "original manuscripts," when was the Old Testament written, and who wrote the individual books?
---Rod4Him on 6/10/14


==A more honest statement would be, "the one church of christ is being formed and prepared by Jesus according to God's original manuscripts...==

The statement is very true in that everyday more and more are added to the Church. It is being formed bigger and bigger each day. It is being prepared until the last chosen one is called to faith. It will become the bride of Christ one day.
---Luke on 3/8/14


The body of christ...the only church of christ is dishonest?
---aka on 3/8/14


==A more honest statement would be, "the one church of christ is being formed and prepared by Jesus according to God's original manuscripts...==

This statement is dishonest.

The One Church of Christ was founded 2000 or so years ago and has always existed non-stop since then.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/7/14


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I think the "inference" is why many churches use that statement because it also infers that that church is God-breathed and they have "the Truth."---Rod4Him on 3/6/14

A more honest statement would be, "the original manuscripts are God's inerrant and inspired word. This bible may or may not be."---aka on 3/5/14

A more honest statement would be, "the one church of christ is being formed and prepared by Jesus according to God's original manuscripts: an inerrant and inspired word. This church may or may not be."
---aka on 3/6/14


//The statement makes an inference that their version is inspired God's word from inerrant, original manuscripts.//

I think the "inference" is why many churches use that statement because it also infers that that church is God-breathed and they have "the Truth."
---Rod4Him on 3/6/14


HCSB

Holman's Christian Standard Bible.

It was published by LifeWay Christian Resources(the publishing arm of theSouthern Baptist Convention).
---aka on 3/5/14


One of the problems is there are no original texts of the New Testament papyri or Uncials and there was no quality control associated with New Testament reproduction what so ever.

Our best source for an accurate New Testament is the Textual Analysis done by Kurt and Barbara Aland.

If you are still using a KJV keep it as a family record of birth, marriages and deaths. But as far is being an accurate New Testament you are better off reading a roll of toilet paper.
---Blogger9211 on 3/5/14


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HCSB, what does that mean? aka, micha, you are right about the bible. God's Word has one meaning but many applications. I believe God's Word is God breathed.
---shira4368 on 3/5/14


Rod4Him

The statement makes an inference that their version is inspired God's word from inerrant, original manuscripts.

A more honest statement would be, "the original manuscripts are God's inerrant and inspired word. This bible may or may not be."
---aka on 3/5/14


Apparently there are no longer holy men of God moved by the Spirit of God to translate accurately both in literal and figurative.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
---micha9344 on 3/5/14


"The Bible is God's inspired word, inerrant in the original manuscripts."

When I looked up HCSB, the above statement was the first sentence of the introduction.

What does that mean, and why do so many use that statement?
---Rod4Him on 3/5/14


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True many churches are downplaying what the Bible says to get more members. Many pulpits have more feel good psychology than Bible truth.

The truth that the Bible is basis of all real truth comes from the Jewish ancestry of Christianity. The Scriptures of which the Law is a major part are what they originally followed.

The Protestant movement also supported Sola Scriptoria.

The statement was more fully stated because of the Modernist movement in the early 1900's when some churches started adopting the Historical Critical method made popular in PreNazi Germany.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/5/14


Hello,Shira4368, You are Right, No one wants to hear about Hell..and everybody got a " clique" It's who you know ,etc.. the music,bling- bling..

One Pastor said it well..
" You mean to tell me you going to.go through all this HELL and still NOT give your life to
Jesus Christ! & Then DIE
and GO TO HELL?"

Years ago, I heard that in church
way back..

Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 3/5/14


southern baptist have gone liberal. Nothing like it use to be. most have become entertainment churches. When a church preaches heaven and hell, people don't want to hear that so they go to places that makes them feel good.
---shira4368 on 3/4/14


Holman's Christian Standard Bible.

It was published by LifeWay Christian Resources(the publishing arm of theSouthern Baptist Convention).
---aka on 3/4/14


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Excuse me, aka, but I don't understand the acronym HSCB.

What does it mean?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/4/14


Cluny I was wrong...I gave it time. I can now explain it succinctly.

the focus is on what is communicated... bible or scripture.

I told you the basis of the differentiation for me...witness.

If the words breathed from the spirit provide witness to Jesus Christ,they are scripture, if not, they are words in a volume of books called the bible.

1 Kings 10:14 kjv or esv v. HSCB is just one example. All three are what we call bibles. The latter removes the witness,therefore it is not scripture to me.
---aka on 3/4/14


\\/Aka, can you please explain how and why you distinguish "Bible" from "scripture"?/---Cluny

I did not say I do not want to. \\

Nor did I say you did, aka.

But if you have no way of explaining what you mean, how can you expect to be understood if you say something obscure--such as distinguishing between "Bible" and "Scripture"?

They are BOTH written down.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/4/14


/Aka, can you please explain how and why you distinguish "Bible" from "scripture"?/---Cluny

I did not say I do not want to. There are several reasons why I cannot. Word limit, cross fire, very limited platform to understand/be understood, lack of willingness to listen, etc... I just cannot say...There are many links to explain like you were able to do with christmation.

Scripture v. Bible for me is not about time periods or councils. It is about witness.

Read 1 Kings 10:14 HCSB, kjv, and esv. Which verse brings makes man's understanding stronger...which verse brings more witness to other scripture in the bible?
---aka on 3/3/14


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"Where you and I Cluny disagree is that you believe that when tradition and scripture conflict you choose tradition."-Samuelbb7 on 2/24/14
I agree on this-if scripture and tradition conflict-scripture must win.

---micha9344

Thank you Micha we agree here. Let us keep our eyes on JESUS our only Savior by whose blood we are saved by Grace alone.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/27/14


"No the Apostles taught out of the books of the bible instead of following tradition."-Samuelbb7 on 2/26/14
Not necessarily "instead of", but "along with."
"Where you and I Cluny disagree is that you believe that when tradition and scripture conflict you choose tradition."-Samuelbb7 on 2/24/14
I agree on this-if scripture and tradition conflict-scripture must win.
---micha9344 on 2/26/14


No the Apostles taught out of the books of the bible instead of following tradition.


Mar 7:7

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.


Gal 3:8

And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Gal 3:22

But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

Gal 4:30

Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/26/14


//Jesus never said, "If you love Me, keep My commandments, and I will send you a book."//
Did you read this in a "book" or did someone tell you?
---michael_e on 2/26/14


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\\Where you and I Cluny disagree is that you believe that when tradition and scripture conflict you choose tradition.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/24/14\\

But Scripture IS tradition.

Nowhere did God give a list of what should be in the Bible.

The Bible rests on the authority of the Tradition of the Orthodox Church.

Jesus never said, "If you love Me, keep My commandments, and I will send you a book."


Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/25/14


//What is the correct translation for all the people of the world who do not understand English?//
China=Chinese in many dialects
France=french, etc.
// I seldom if ever use the term, "God's Word//
Would you prefer "man's word"?
---michael_e on 2/24/14


O that we could all speak Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. Because I speak none of those languages I own many different translations of the bible (all written in English) to help my understanding when I feel that help is needed.

I think that we should all be very wary of endorsing any specific translation above all others and we should be even more wary of labelling any particular one as being corrupt or a perversion (or other similar adjectives). We have God to answer to on this and none of us should be smug.

However it is important that we have faith that the general message is true and important for us to believe - otherwise we waste our time reading it.
---Rita_H on 2/24/14


//Yes, for me, since my primary language is English.//

What is the correct translation for all the people of the world who do not understand English?

//Since you do not profess to have a perfect Bible, do you refer to it as "God's word"?//

I call it the Bible, Torah, Pentateuch, the Scriptures, the Tanakh, the Old Testament, and the New Testament, it depends on who I am taking to. I seldom if ever use the term, "God's Word, but that's me. I am not saying that it is a wrong term.

What does the statement "originally written" mean? Is that a necessary statement? Is that statement important today? Why use it? Does your church use a similar statement? If so, why?
---Rod4Him on 2/24/14


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Dear Cluny

Correct all translation have faults and virtues. I believe in the infallible Word of GOD. By which I mean
(without fault or weakness, incapable of error or fallacy) So I use and read different translations. This is only necessary on certain passages which can have more then one meaning. The Amplified is a good one for this problem.

I do not believe English is the only good translation nor the KJV. Although I love the way it reads.

GOD breathed is saying inspired. But our understanding of science is better today then then so we must recognize that fact.

Where you and I Cluny disagree is that you believe that when tradition and scripture conflict you choose tradition.
---Samuelbb7 on 2/24/14


//Is an English translation the only correct language to use in a translation? //
Yes, for me, since my primary language is English.
The dead sea scrolls add nothing to the salvation message.
Since you do not profess to have a perfect Bible, do you refer to it as "God's word"?
---michael_e on 2/24/14


Michael e, first off there are no original manuscripts. The manuscripts we have vary from one another, such as, the Masoretic Text, Septuagint, Vulgate, and others. The KJV was written before the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, and they have more information than we had before. For example, there are two major DSS Isaiah manuscripts. One very similar to the Masoretic Text, and one seems more consistent with the Septuagint. Which one is the right one?
However, God's Word is still preserved.
I challenge the "verbal inerrancy of the originally written" concept because we don't have them. That statement creates a misconception that is not necessary.

Is an English translation the only correct language to use in a translation?
---Rod4Him on 2/23/14


//Do you have perfection?//
Apparently not, I can't find all the errors that you say there is. If you can, why don't you write a "perfect bible?
---michael_e on 2/23/14


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//...maybe you can correct them and give us perfection.//

Do you have perfection?
---Rod4Him on 2/23/14


//All translations have faults and virtues.//
Since you think you are capable of finding the faults, maybe you can correct them and give us perfection.
---michael_e on 2/23/14


"Where did this originate?"
Apparently with the translators of the NIV and YLT of the Bible. It is accurate. The "breath of God", is the conveyed "Spirit of God."
"What does it mean?"
It means that "all scripture is given by the inspiration of God." 2Ti 3:16
"Is it legitimate and accurate? Yes.
"How is it important today? Very.
One that does not believe that scripture is inspired, will be less likely to embrace the inspiration and truth provided thereby.
---josef on 2/22/14


//All translations have faults and virtues.//

Exactly, so why do so many churches make those statements about the original language? Why not say, "We believe the Bible?"
---Rod4Him on 2/22/14


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\\Which brings me back to the point of why do churches make statements as, "originally written," or "Infallible, Inerrant, and Verbally Inspired in the original language?"\\

Any translation, including the KJV of 1611 and later revisions, will be the work of mere human skill, and mere mortals have never done ANYTHING for God and gotten it 100% right.

NOWHERE has God said that translations will be preserved from error.

All translations have faults and virtues.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/22/14


"Since the Areopagus was in Athens, and not Rome, St. Paul would have been speaking Greek."-Cluny on 2/22/14
Ahh.. Thank you, Cluny. I always expected it to be Roman because of the name, not just "Romanized" as I just found out.
---micha9344 on 2/22/14


//You don't think that God has preserved His Word, even through translations?//

That must be true because few of us know Hebrew. However, distinctions get changed through translations. Which brings me back to the point of why do churches make statements as, "originally written," or "Infallible, Inerrant, and Verbally Inspired in the original language?"

Why make those statements, and what do they mean?
---Rod4Him on 2/22/14


To distiguish the bible from scripture is that scripture is the OT and everything in the NT is a witness of scripture, together called the bible. Jesus and the apostles alwaqys referred to scripture. Since the NT did not exist yet, what scripture were they talking about?
---Steveng on 2/22/14


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**/Aka, can you please explain how and why you distinguish "Bible" from "scripture"?/

Nope.
---aka on 2/21/14**

Then how can you expect us to understand your comment?

||Maybe I'm stretching this, but how does a person believe by hearing the Word of God if he does not understand Greek or Hebrew?\\

The "word of God" in this verse refers to the PROCLAIMED word of God, not the Bible. The NT was still being written.

\\I am under the impression that Paul spoke to those men on Mars Hill in Latin, but I could be wrong.||

Since the Areopagus was in Athens, and not Rome, St. Paul would have been speaking Greek.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/22/14


there is a lot of difference in scripture and bible. Ive seen the vegetable bible, the cooks bible and more but they didn't contain scripture.
---shira4368 on 2/21/14


/Aka, can you please explain how and why you distinguish "Bible" from "scripture"?/

Nope.
---aka on 2/21/14


"Since scripture [not the Bible] is spirit-breathed, you need to ask the Spirit to guide you and the Lord to teach you."-aka on 2/21/14
You don't think that God has preserved His Word, even through translations?
Maybe I'm stretching this, but how does a person believe by hearing the Word of God if he does not understand Greek or Hebrew? Is it not the Word of God in whatever language necessary for the fulfilling of the Great Commission?
I am under the impression that Paul spoke to those men on Mars Hill in Latin, but I could be wrong.
To separate the "scriptures" from the "bible", to me, is unwise.
What comes true from prophesy out of scripture is just as true and relevant.
---micha9344 on 2/21/14


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\\Since scripture [not the Bible] is spirit-breathed, you need to ask the Spirit to guide you and the Lord to teach you.
---aka on 2/21/14\\

aka, can you please explain how and why you distinguish "Bible" from "scripture"?

And asking the spirit to teach you is what leads to 30,000 plus denominations, all teaching contradictory things they claim the spirit taught them.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/21/14


Ruben.

Since scripture [not the Bible] is spirit-breathed, you need to ask the Spirit to guide you and the Lord to teach you.
---aka on 2/21/14


The scripture is a living entity as man was god-breathed and is fallible if used incorrectly.
---aka on 2/20/14

How does one go about knowing if their interpretation is correct??
---Ruben on 2/21/14


//How are you defining "God breathed"?//

I'm not, that's part of the question.

//This refers to what was already written...that is what we call the OT.//

I agree. However, where is the "originally written" material?

//In 2Pe 3:15-16 we see that Paul's epistles were considered scripture.//

To be fair Peter's statement could refer to other Old Testament scriptures. Otherwise, other letters of Paul would have to be included which are lost. So we have lost scriptures. In addition how do we include the rest of the NT if it is only Paul's writings.

BTW, I am not trying to create arguments. It is a discussion question.
---Rod4Him on 2/21/14


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2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
1The 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received [it] not [as] the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God...
In 2Pe 3:15-16 we see that Paul's epistles were considered scripture.
Why else are they now considered scripture if not by the Holy Spirit?
If scripture, then 2Ti 3:16 applies as well, for God knows the end from the beginning.
---micha9344 on 2/21/14


2 Timothy 3:16 ESV

All Scripture is breathed out by God...

This refers to what was already written...that is what we call the OT. Jesus says the truth is in the law and prophets. Anything written after must provide witness to scripture...The ot.

The scripture is a living entity as man was god-breathed and is fallible if used incorrectly.
---aka on 2/20/14


How are you defining "God breathed"?. All holy writings are INSPIRED by God....."ALL SCRIPTURE was inspired by God". DEFINE distinguish/differentiate "inspired" and "God breathed"?. Are you saying that the verses that JESUS SPOKE are the only ones that we should care about?. The Jews only had PARTIAL GOD (JEHOVAH ONLY). COMPLETE GOD was first specifically announced in Isaiah 9:6 that a PRINCE OF PEACE (MESSIAH) would come and also bring the WONDERFUL COUNSELOR (ETERNAL HOLY SPIRIT...this is the REVEALING "WORD" about GOD IN ENTIRETY/COMPLETION...all THREE/trinity), AND THEN "the word became FLESH", NOT TEXT, etc. The "word" of God hung on the cross, we read THE WORD OF TRUTH.
---faithforfaith on 2/20/14


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