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Uniting Of Many Religions

The Catholic Church has been busy uniting many religions together including Buddhist and Muslims. Just recently, Kenneth Copeland enthusiastically accepted the Catholic Church's proposal to unite. Your thoughts?

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\\We have those who we call elders instead of Bishops but about the same offfice and jurisdiction.\\

Elders (presbyters or priests) and bishops are NOT the same office.

Bishops ordain elders and deacons.

\\. I also know that the Pope proclaimed Anathema against the Orthodox churches and they returned the favor.\\

No, you don't, so you're wrong again.

Cardinal Humbert anathematized Patriarch Michael, and vice verse, but they were not aimed against the churches as such. Furthermore, Humbert's authority had expired with the death of Pope Leo IX.

Judas was an apostle, just as called as the other 11.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/10/14


Cluny we are not talking Math which is more exact that a church government.

We have those who we call elders instead of Bishops but about the same offfice and jurisdiction. We have Elder Pastors and local Elders and deacons.

What we do not have is a single controller like the Pope. If I am correct in the Orthodox the leader is not the final authority but must work with the Bishops as first among equals.

Yes I know about Matthias. I also know that the Pope proclaimed Anathema against the Orthodox churches and they returned the favor. So both churches declared the others to be out of the rulereship of JESUS and Apostate.

Where they both wrong?

Can a wicked unrepentant man be an Apostle?
---Samuelbb7 on 4/10/14


\\The Episcopal structure is close to what we do in the Seventh day Adventist church. I believe there are minor differences\\

Five is close to four, but it's the wrong answer to "What does two plus two equal?"

Eli's sons behaved abominably, too, but they were still priests of Israel with Aaronic authority.

Annas and Caiphas plotted to kill our Lord, but they were never deposed from being High Priests and died in that office.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/9/14


\\Please show me Apostolic succession.\\

Ever hear of Matthias in Acts 1?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/9/14


But Episcopal structure for the church and apostolic succession ARE in the Bible.

Cluny

The Episcopal structure is close to what we do in the Seventh day Adventist church. I believe there are minor differences.

Please show me Apostolic succession. And show me where a person who lives for the Devil and is evil can be the Apostolic successor. Example
Pope Alexander VI.

Thank you Cluny
---Samuelbb7 on 4/9/14




To Shira4368, my friend we have right now in this city, my respect to CNT, More gently, this maybe better way to express without any mention of specific names, right here in this city
& In know that since 2004

The evangelical church(s) and another middle eastern religin have been worshipping TOGETHER since
2004.
This is for truth!
In the end who will be taking over this religion??
You know who..
---Elena9555 on 4/9/14


\\Interesting statement. Unless a person agrees with a tradition not found in the Bible you need not show them why something not in the Bible is true. \\

But Episcopal structure for the church and apostolic succession ARE in the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/8/14


\\The Primacy of the Pope is another false doctrine of the RCC.\\

It is also pointless to discuss this issue with people who don't even believe in episcopacy and the apostolic succession.
Cluny

Interesting statement. Unless a person agrees with a tradition not found in the Bible you need not show them why something not in the Bible is true.

That sounds like circular reasoning. JESUS said.
Mar 7:7

Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Mar 7:9

And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/7/14


What has light got to do with darkness? The Lord's commandment is, "go ye...preach, teach..if they accept me...baptize them...". This is the way the Church expands not by mixing-up different faiths & pretend to be one.
---Adetunji on 4/6/14


Hello, bro.Steveng, much respect to you always glad see your progress on the unending changes we both agree brother re: denominations.I believe you are right on, many things..well, as far as Kenneth Copeland my mind is just in chaos he seems nothing like the christian devotee he claim to be bk in the 70' & 80's..it' getting worse and worse the denominations.Christ in his day they worshipped in home
were on one accord as the holy spirit lead them.I been home so long, I was able warm.weather went to visit a church..2 min.of prayer, they then rapidly proceeded trying to stiff the folks up for thousands of $ which I am sure in this city, they can not get up readily, loss of even homes, jobs
scarce..this is rediculous.
---Elena9555 on 4/5/14




\\The Primacy of the Pope is another false doctrine of the RCC.\\

It is also pointless to discuss this issue with people who don't even believe in episcopacy and the apostolic succession.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/5/14


Christians are to come out from among them and be separate. Them is the so called Christians. Brian Williams predicted by 2017 we will all have a chip. America is going down hill quick and with the chip it will just put us at the bottom. I can see a revolution in our country. Every time I pick up the news, we are keeping God out of everything. Now the bible has been removed from a dead soldiers table at some memorial. Even little kids can't say the Lord's Prayer. Why should we be shocked at anything that happens.
---shira4368 on 4/5/14


Rita H you're so welcome I'm glad it spoke to you. I don't know how people can't see the truth but I've wondered if its because people are so brain washed by their denomination they don't think for themselves or seek the Holy Ghost to teach them. I always feel why make the Bible and serving God hard when it is easy if you just stick to the Word. God Bless Darlene
---Darlene_1 on 4/4/14


Darlene, thank you so much. That is the easiest-to-understand way I have ever seen that explained. How can people not see the truth?
"The 'Word' was God and the 'Word was made flesh and dwelt among us." GOD became flesh and dwelt among us.
---Rita_H on 4/4/14


There is God,Jesus,and the Holy Ghost and Jesus said these three are one. If Jesus didn't try to make them into three different beings and He knew the facts then where would we get off saying they were three just like three humans. I have more trouble trying to grasp that concept than I do accepting that the three are one because all things are possible with God. It says plainly the Word was with God and the Word was God and the Word/God was made flesh and dwelt among us. That was Jesus/God. To me that is the mystery that some can't understand or refuses to believe. God manifested Himself to human kind in three different ways and to me that's simple to grasp.
---Darlene_1 on 4/4/14


Whoa Cluny. We do believe that JESUS is GOD in the flesh. What makes you think that most of us here do not?

I know there some JWs who come by. But Seventh day Adventist, Baptists and most Protestants believe that JESUS is GOD incarnate.


John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


John 1:14

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/4/14


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\\he Assumption of Mary that she ascended bodily to heaven was adopted by the Roman Catholic church in 1950.\\

The Bodily Assumption of the Virgin is believed by all the pre-reformation Apostolic churches.

It was unnecessary for Rome to elevate it to a matter of dogma, as dogma, from the Eastern standpoint, concerns Christ.

I will say nothing about the Assumption, because it's pointless to speak of Mariology with people who don't even believe that her Son is God Incarnate.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/3/14


The Assumption of Mary that she ascended bodily to heaven was adopted by the Roman Catholic church in 1950.

The Primacy of the Pope is another false doctrine of the RCC.

If all the traditions of the Orthodox agree with Scripture then is not Sola Scriptora okay?

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 4/3/14


\\Some RCC assemblies still make commitments or vows before the image/statue of Mary. \\

It might be no more ethan a private, if wide spread devotional practice, akin to "asking Jesus into your heart and accepting Him as personal savior."

It's in none of the official liturgical books of the Roman Catholic Church.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/2/14


Cluny://Name one such tradition and give the year it was adopted and who invented it//
Some RCC assemblies still make commitments or vows before the image/statue of Mary.
When this was adopted and who invented it, I do not know but this practice was not started by the early church.
I once preached to a Catholic lady that this practice is not good, she later came to me with a Catholic book which recommended this practice.
---Adetunji on 4/2/14


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\\ Traditions from the RCC were not invented till thousands of years
latter.
Why is it okay for them to contradict scripture?\\

Name one such tradition and give the year it was adopted and who invented it, Samuel.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/1/14


Also why would their traditions and writings contradict each other?... Traditions from the RCC were not invented till thousands of years
latter.
Why is it okay for them to contradict scripture?
---Samuelbb7 on 3/27/14

Like you....why is it acceptable for any "church" body to contradict scripture?
If a "church" does not accept the scriptural prophets, Gods witness of the "New Covenant testament", why would one attend or even waste time listening?
Dust feet of the leaders of such. Be free of them.
Luk_13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
---Trav on 4/1/14


\\But the writings of the Apostles include the traditions. \\

Not totally true.

St. John said in his letters that he had many things to tell them, but could not convey them in writing.

St. Paul told the church in Corinth, "And the rest I will set in order when I come."

That means that some traditions were NOT written down.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/31/14


Samuelbb7:

None of the scriptures quoted state that scripture is the ONLY authority.

The fact that all scripture is given by inspiration of God does not state that all other things are NOT by inspiration of God.

To split hairs, just WHICH books are, in fact, Scripture? Why do you accept Collossians as scripture, but not Laodiceans? It can't be from the books themselves - each recommends the other. Such decisions are from HUMAN tradition outside of scripture.
---StrongAxe on 3/30/14


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Dear Cluny both Trav and I pointed out verses that teach the Scripture are the final authority.

You counter with a verse that says the traditions the Apostles taught are part of that. But the writings of the Apostles include the traditions. Why because when that verse was first written the New Testament was not finished. Also why would their traditions and writings contradict each other?

Some of the Traditions from the RCC were not invented till thousands of years latter. Some a few hundred years after the death of the Apostles. When was the last tradition of the Orthodox added to the list of previous traditions?

Why is it okay for them to contradict scripture?
---Samuelbb7 on 3/27/14


"St. Paul did not tell his disciples to read the Bible, and that only.
He told them to keep the traditions they had been taught."

Ugh, Kemo Sabe, the wind is changing.

Does anyone know tradition says the Lone Ranger was the Green Hornet's Great-Uncle.

Git-um up, Scout, or Hi ho Paint let's git where we ain't...
---Elder on 3/27/14


The thing is, nowhere does the Bible teach sola scriptura.
---Cluny on 3/24/14

True....lest Israel feel that scriptures are their salvation.

Joh_5:39 Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Understanding scriptures is recognition of fulfillment.

Luk 24:44 he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.

Luk_24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

Act_17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, .....
---Trav on 3/26/14


\\So what other things do we use to learn of God's directions and will?\\

St. Paul did not tell his disciples to read the Bible, and that only.

He told them to keep the traditions they had been taught.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/26/14


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"The thing is, nowhere does the Bible teach sola scriptura."

Nowhere does the Bible teach that we should eat breakfast.

Nowhere does the Bible teach we should drive automobiles.

The Bible does teach that all Scripture is given by inspiration of God. Would that not make it what we need?

Any thing else would be extra-biblical. So what other things do we use to learn of God's directions and will? Can we just toss a coin in the air to determine God's will for our lives?

Just another attack directed at God's Written Word because of a "feel good do it" mentality.
---Elder on 3/25/14


Dear Cluny yes it is.

Isa 8:20

To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

If a person taught contrary to the law of GOD in the Old Testament they were servants of Satan. Do you deny this?


1Jo 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


Rom 16:17

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned, and avoid them.

Also m. 1,10 The Bible contains the Doctrine of GOD. To teach contrary to the Bible is to be a false teacher.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/25/14


Cluny: "The thing is, nowhere does the Bible teach sola scriptura."

If a christian does not go by scripture alone, what other teachings do christians go by? One of over thirty-three thousand denominational churches - each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and their own interpretations of the bible?

Christianity is a lifestyle based upon the simple teachings in the bible only.
---Steveng on 3/24/14


True Samuel! Sola Scriptura (Latin ablative, "by Scripture alone") is the doctrine that the Bible contains all knowledge necessary for salvation & holiness. The Apostle Paul knew that (2 Tim 3:16-17). Religious doctrines & traditions, that are outside the pale (boundary) of Scripture, are not to be embraced by Christians.
---Leon on 3/24/14


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\\So yes I know that your church doctrine does not have to be in agreement with the Bible. You are the one who just stated that.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/24/14\\

The thing is, nowhere does the Bible teach sola scriptura.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/24/14


Darlene: You're right. Go as the Lord leads you. I pray your greatgran's speedy recovery. God's blessings upon you & yours.
---Leon on 3/24/14


Well Sola Scriptoria may not mean what you think it means then Cluny.

The term means to most that all doctrine must agree with scripture that all practices must be held to the Moral high that scripture states.

It does not mean we must use the same words that were used centuries ago or only ride horses.

So yes I know that your church doctrine does not have to be in agreement with the Bible. You are the one who just stated that.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/24/14


Leon thats ok,thank you. You need not worry about me being pulled in. I'm done. My greatgrand daughter fell off the rung of a chair and wound up in an ambulance going to emergency. Thank God all she had was a pump knot on the back of her head,shes 18 months old. That reinforced to me how useless these tirades by some on here are and how useless to try to explain anything to them. There are so many things in this earth and in my life that are important and I don't need to try explaining anything to dead ears. The scope of life and our part in it as Christians for God needs to be taken far more seriously than it has been by some. I want my focus on pleasing God and if He wants to teach the others,then the job already belongs to Him. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 3/24/14


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Darlene: I don't agree, but do respect your decision regarding Cluny. Take care. My observation is he goes to & fro (from blog to blog) seeking whom ever he thinks he can devour. He attacks relentless (as witnessed by you & other bloggers). His classic hypocracy knows no bounds. He's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
---Leon on 3/23/14


\\Cluny....The term "orthodox" nor the formulae are not in the Bible either.
---KarenD on 3/23/14\\

II never said it was.

But Sola scriptura is not our rule, and we never claimed to play by it.

What I find amusing is how many people who claim "sola scriptura" do totally UNscriptural things and use UNscriptural buzz words.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/23/14


Cluny....The term "orthodox" nor the formulae are not in the Bible either.
---KarenD on 3/23/14


Cluny, you are playing with words, regarding "accept Christ" and "personal Saviour."

"...whoever publicly acknowledges me before others, the Son of Man will also acknowledge before the angels of God." Luke 12:8. He who publically acknowledges Jesus has obviously accepted who He is.

Acts 16:31 "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved..." Again acceptance of who Jesus is and our need of forgiveness.

Titus 1:4 "and Christ Jesus our Saviour." As He is our Saviour He is my Saviour and yours, therefore our personal Saviour.
---Warwick on 3/23/14


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\\like accepting Christ as personal Savior\\

Did you know that nowhere in the Bible will you find the formulae "accept Christ" or "personal savior" used either singly or together?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/22/14


Trying to unite various and different types of religions without compromising some very basic Christian beliefs, like accepting Christ as personal Savior which would be a very serious point and could not be a point for compromise. While a person of a different religion may accept Christ as Savior, they usually change to a Christian church or fellowship. Somehow, I don't see how this could be done. It appears Kenneth Copeland is wrong.
---wivv on 3/22/14


Leon thank you for your input. I know you are right but the manners I was taught seems to make me want to be polite and answer,but only to a point. God Bless. Cluny give up I won't answer the way you want me to and nothing you can say will entice me to do so,there is no good reason,people don't have to explain their answers. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 3/22/14


**Cluny: // If you like, I'll tell you all about how I found out that Baptists were wrong before I got saved.//

Please tell me, i worship God in a Baptist church belonging to the Nigerian Baptist Convention, a part of the Baptist World Alliance.
---Adetunji on 3/22/14**

Quick version: When I began studying organ, reading about the history of the organ led to reading about church music, which led to reading about worship and church history.

There I discovered the LIES they had told me in Training Union.

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/22/14


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Adam was God manifested in the flesh. (The Authority of the Believer IV, Tape #01-0304)
---aka on 3/19/14\\

That's not Christianity but Mormonism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!

---Clunyon 3/19/14

There was an assertion that copeland was a Christian if we just understood where HE was coming from. This is where he is coming from.
---aka on 3/22/14


Cluny: // If you like, I'll tell you all about how I found out that Baptists were wrong before I got saved.//

Please tell me, i worship God in a Baptist church belonging to the Nigerian Baptist Convention, a part of the Baptist World Alliance.
---Adetunji on 3/22/14


" Cluny...I won't fall into your petty little game & I don't intend to nor do I have to prove anything [to] you...God lets me know...He isn't the author of confusion & I follow my Sheppard's example...God Bless"
---Darlene_1 on 3/21/14


Sister Darlene: Talking to Cluny is like Eve dialoguing with the serpent in the garden. The best you (or anyone else) can do is resist him by not conversing with & thereby giving him place in your mind. He's a master at playing crafty little head games & his agenda isn't one that's "helpful", regardless of his self-inflated numbers here on CN.
---Leon on 3/22/14


Let me see if I understand you properly, Darlene1.

YOu make statements about yourself that you either cannot or refuse to prove, but I'm playing games.

Do I understand you correctly?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/22/14


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Cluny I'm sorry if you don't like the fact I won't fall into your petty little game and I don't intend to nor do I have to prove anything for you. In the whole scope of being a Christian it just isn't important. What I know or don't know won't win one person to Christ. God let me know that He isn't the author of confusion and I follow my Shepard'example I won't be involved in it either. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 3/21/14


\\Cluny in other words you are calling me a liar by saying I really don't have any idea. I am a sold out for Jesus Christian and there is nothing in heaven or on earth that is worth lying and going to hell for therefore when I said I know some of what they teach in the RCC it is 100% true.\\

Good. What do you KNOW that they teach?

That's what I'm asking you.

Either you do know or you don't. If you know, simply prove it.

As Fulton Sheen said, many people hate what they THINK the Roman Catholic church teaches, but very few hate what it really teaches.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/21/14


Cluny you have already told how bad baptist are. Roman Catholics do not believe a person is born again and they hold Mary as deity. It is ritual. I was nothing before I was saved. Now I'm a baptist.
---shira4368 on 3/21/14


\\My daughter in law was raised catholic and she told me much.\\

What teachings did she find objectionable?

That God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

That Jesus is God Incarnate born of a Virgin?

That He is fully God and fully human in one person?

That Jesus was crucified, rose from the dead in a glorified human body? That He ascended into heaven and will return some day as judge?

If you like, I'll tell you all about how I found out that Baptists were wrong before I got saved.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/21/14


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Cluny in other words you are calling me a liar by saying I really don't have any idea. I am a sold out for Jesus Christian and there is nothing in heaven or on earth that is worth lying and going to hell for therefore when I said I know some of what they teach in the RCC it is 100% true. Quite frankly I will not waste my time writing in detail for you what I know and frankly sir it's none of your business. I will not allow you to pull me into a useless fight. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 3/21/14


My daughter in law was raised catholic and she told me much. Her mom is still a devout catholic. When she was saved show knew it wasn't a good place.she won't let her son visit when he goes to granny's.
---shira4368 on 3/21/14


\\I'm sorry but I see no useful purpose or good reason for telling you what I know about the RCC teachings\\

In other words, you really have no idea.

**I'm surprised you don't know the similarities between the Catholic Church, buddhism, and the Islamic religion.**

What similarities? Classical Buddhism is atheism, and mahometanism denies that Jesus Christ is God Incarnate who truly died on the Cross, rose from the dead, and ascended into heaven.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/21/14


Well Lawerence

I guess I am a trinity apostate. The problem with that is that I have accepted JESUS CHRIST as my savior and have been Born Again by the power of the HOLY SPIRIT. Which changed me from an agnostic to a believe in my LORD JESUS CHRIST. Who saved my by his blood shed on the cross.

You judge me and others by a standard you have set up and tell me what is in my heart. Which is against the word of GOD. So how do you know what is in my heart?
---Samuelbb7 on 3/21/14


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Cluny, Really you want me to tell you what I learned about RCC teaching and be precise. I'm sorry but I see no useful purpose or good reason for telling you what I know about the RCC teachings. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 3/21/14


Cluny, with all the rhetoric you dish out about how intelligent you are (in a worldly sort of way) and how you put yourself on a intellectual pedastal, I'm surprised you don't know the similarities between the Catholic Church, buddhism, and the Islamic religion.


By the way, what do you mean by "drive by posting?"
---Steveng on 3/20/14


\\Cluny I don't have to know what they teach,although I do,some of it,what I saw in Old Mexico was enough to turn me off of them forever.\\

And what did you learn about Roman Catholic teaching? Please be precise.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/20/14


One world church, the family body of the trinity apostates Rev.17 v's 4 - 6, those that worship the gods buddha - hindu - allah - hare krishna - moony warriors of the rainbow -atheist - agnostics - witchcraft etc. Which Are All part of the gates of hell & will NOT prevail against ( or over ) the Acts 2 v 38 Church of The Living God. The Acts 2 v 38 Church of The Living God born on the day of Pentecost, delivered by Apostle Peter to the Jewish peoples First.
---Larwence on 3/20/14


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Well Cluny I know what the RCC teaches. It is the Orthodox that you always have to help me with. :)

Also I did not know Copeland was following Mormonism but the Adam god is an old LDS doctrine which they gave up in general but used to teach.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 3/20/14


"The term interfaith dialogue refers to cooperative, constructive and positive interaction between people of different religious traditions (i.e., "faiths") and/or spiritual or humanistic beliefs, at both the individual and institutional levels. It is distinct from syncretism or alternative religion, in that dialogue often involves promoting understanding between different religions to increase acceptance of others, rather than to synthesize new beliefs."
Interfaith Dialogue, Wikipedia

Romans 12:18 "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men."
Exodus 22:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt."
---Nana on 3/20/14


Cluny I don't have to know what they teach,although I do,some of it,what I saw in Old Mexico was enough to turn me off of them forever. Tiny little Grandmothers begging around that huge RC church in Mexico City and then I went in the church and saw several altars and statues covered in gold,it had to be millions of dollars worth of gold,and that is something I hate the idea of any denomination getting rich off of the people who follow them,when most of the people are far from rich. It was sickening to me and made me very sad. I also saw a tiny mother and her two small children,she walking on her knees and them beside her across cobblestone area leading to a church and shrine to a virgin. That suffering was so useless.
---Darlene_1 on 3/20/14


I wonder how many people here who are using Steveng's drive-by posting to play BTC actually know what the Roman Catholic Church teaches?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/19/14


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If I were Copeland, only looking to fleece the masses, I would enthusiastically embrace the 1.2 billion mass attenders, too.

RCC looking to gather a wandered flock, Copeland looking to gather more "seed money"

Match made in heaven (or hell, maybe)
---James_L on 3/19/14


\\Adam was God manifested in the flesh. (The Authority of the Believer IV, Tape #01-0304)
---aka on 3/19/14\\

That's not Christianity but Mormonism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/19/14


why would those that are not catholic bind themselves to catholism? I don't get it. that is only one reason I don't watch Kenneth Copeland.
---shira4368 on 3/19/14


Lydia. Copeland said:I was shocked when I found out who the biggest failure in the Bible actually is. Everybody ask you ask Whos the biggest failure? They say Judas, somebody else will say No, I believe it was Adam, well how about the devil. Hes the most consistent failure. But hes not the biggest in terms of material failure and so forth. The biggest one in all the Bible is God. What, what, what dont you turn that set off you listen to what. I told you now you sit still a minute. You know me well enough to know I wouldnt, I wouldnt tell something I cant prove from the Bible. (Copeland - Praise-a-thon program TBN, April 1988

Adam was God manifested in the flesh. (The Authority of the Believer IV, Tape #01-0304)
---aka on 3/19/14


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Leon well said,that is so very true.I view that kind of uniting actually the Pope/Catholic Church killing all the other religions who are against RCC. To me a wise course of action or no action is never to bring your church,business,life,whatever else under the control of someone else for it is giving up all your power. The large fish in the ocean always eat the smaller ones. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 3/19/14


Buddhists and mahamotens, contrary to Steveg's drive-by posting are NOT united to the Catholic Church.

And contrary to what a lot of people think, the Pope actually has very little control.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/19/14


Kenneth Copeland ministry is a ministry whose foundational core value is love, unconditional love. If you understand that you know where he is coming from.
---Lydia on 3/19/14


I saw the Pope speaking to the Charismatics on a video made about this by Amazing Facts ministry.

The Pope is seeking to bring back all Christians under his control. They forget the reasons for the Protestant reformation of the false doctrines that are still accepted by the RCC.
---Samuelbb7 on 3/19/14


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Oil (Christianity) & water (world religions) doesn't mix.
---Leon on 3/18/14


Kenneth Copeland Ministries has a donor alert on Ministry Watch for Financial Transparency.
---Blogger9211 on 3/18/14


Birds of a feather flock together comes to mind.
---Warwick on 3/18/14


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