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Both Evolution and Man-made Global Warming are unprovable, man-made MYTHS. Why would any Christian accept either?

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I have said nothing about Al Gore or even said anything about what Al Gore says, because I have no clue what Al Gore says to begin with. I do not follow Al Gore. So that should tell you Jerry just how much you have NOT paid attention here.

Christians should not be calling anyone names. SINCE you were the first to throw those stones and I refused to join in your Al Gore name calling bashing, that has made you madder than a hornet. Ellen White is a false Prophet. THAT is not name calling, but FACT! Get over it.

Jerry, WE KNOW killing the oceans have lowered oxygen levels that contribute to increased CO2. This is not nonsense.

Such an angry little man who believes evolution and global warming are one in the same. I DO NOT!
---kathr4453 on 4/18/14


The real TRUTH Jerry, is if I'm such a silly stupid woman, why are YOU getting so angry? I believe it's because I have brought up truth YOU don't want to discuss.
---kathr4453 on 4/18/14


Kathr: Al gore is not a contributor to this website. But if he were, I'd call him a self-seeking, anti-American lunatic. Similarly, Ellen White is dead, but you insist on calling her names and telling lies about her. Given the number of silly posts you make on this website, I'd guess you don't have much of a life, but have a great deal of time on your hands.

You know nothing of the infrared atmospheric effects that cause the greenhouse effect, or even of the infrared properties of glass that cause greenhouses to get warm. Yet you pontificate the FANTASIES of Al Gore as if you understood physics. Please stop embarrassing yourself for your own sake.


---jerry6593 on 4/18/14


While making fun of Steveng's comment concerning the 13% increase over 15 years of increased foliage, has NOT increased the oxygen in our atmosphere, but we are seeing lower Oxygen readings that are also contributing to climate change. Jerry's only response was..."my fantasy's ", but didn't have the guts to tell you WHY that was all fantasy. Why, because to admit lower oxygen levels are a result of increased CO2 is something he doesn't want to discuss, either because he is not a physicist or he like so many, only tell you half truths. A half truth is a LIE Jerry.

Jerry has have done nothing BUT call names, scoff and make fun here, having no valuable stats to report. He thinks calling Al Gore a waccko is not name calling????
---kathr4453 on 4/17/14


Ecc 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business, and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.

---jerry6593 on 4/17/14


OK so Ellen White that dreamer of visions and the voice of a fool Doesn't count? How can you be so lopsided in your judgments Jerry? You believe a FOOL, but not these very truthful FACTS I have posted? I'm not predicting the future...YOU ARE! No SDA has ever died of radiation poisoning? Would it be the Wrath of God if one had?
---kathr453 on 4/17/14




Corexit is what was used on these oil spills, Alaska, the gulf and around the world on oil spills in our oceans. Please read the toxic effects this toxic chemical has on coral reefs marine life, and humans.

Ok, so here is what Jerry our Physicist doesn't get....hummm, only one part of many complex issues. Our oceans take in and expel CO2, because LIFE is in our oceans just like LIFE is on our land. And take the radiation spilling into our ocean...Japan, and waste dumped into rivers, lakes, etc....

Anyone here smarter than a 5th grader? Does the dying off of our coral reefs and life in our oceans, rivers lakes ALSO throw the balance of the atmosphere out of wack? YES.
---kathr4453 on 4/17/14


Kath: Unable to intelligently defend your cultic infatuation with leftist ideology, you now descend into childish name calling. What a shame. I'll not call you names in return, but rather let the Bible do it.

Ecc 5:3 For a dream cometh through the multitude of business, and a fool's voice is known by multitude of words.



---jerry6593 on 4/17/14


Oh and this must be added, the OCEAN gives off 90% of our oxygen as well. Can you imagine....90%... How many knew this? All from the plant life in the oceans we are KILLING off.

Now if Jerry were really a physicist! understanding the true complexities of the LAWS OF NATURE, he would have responded to any of my posts and understood a deeper understanding here.

Jerry, I hate to break it to you, but allowing your religion to cloud common sense is dangerous. And not seeing the WHOLE picture together is reckless.
---kathr453 on 4/17/14


What a shame that you don't recognize that the creation as well as the control of our planet is in the hands of our God - not our politicians.

---jerry6593 on 4/16/14

1st Cliff, it's comments like this I find frightening. God is not responsible for the horrible coverup in the Gulf. Spraying CUEXIT over the oil, a horrible toxic chemical killing marine life, birds , making humans SICK while the public was lied to and told the oil just cleared itself up. How much did the oil companies pay the New York Post for that article?

Jerry believes as he does because their religion believes everything bad is the wrath of God. TODAY we live in the age of Grace, so NO wrath is taking place blaming God for man's incompetence.
---kathr4453 on 4/16/14


Well said Jerry. Did you notice she posted 7 blogs in a row? She confuses irrelevant blather with intelligent comment.
---Warwick on 4/16/14




Kathr, According to the New York Post, 2013 was 0ne of the five quietest years for hurricanes since 1960.
Our planet has not shown an increase in temperature since 1998.
We've just came through the coldest winter in 35 years,in fact, it snowed today and is below freezing...not seen on this date for eons!
Climate change-man made?????
Help...the sky is falling!
---1st_cliff on 4/16/14


JERRY, your original question said NOTHING about CO2. You presumed everyone thought you were referring to CO2 and that is YOUR FAULT.

There are "many factors" that contribute to Global Warming and climate change. So NO Jerry, I did not waste YOUR blog on YOUR nonsense. You wasted your blog on a question you did not clearly express as concerning CO2 ALONE.

Any nut knows CO2 standing alone all by itself is not the only factor.

You are just angry and embarrassed because in a round about way I was agreeing with you and you were too stupid to see that. Since you had no response to the other factors I posted, or even could find your self agreeing with, it was obvious your head was intoxicated in CO2 alone.
---kathr4453 on 4/16/14


Kath: It is apparent that you are a highly opinionated woman with an excess of words in her. Unfortunately, most of them are irrelevant to this discussion, and you have wasted the entire blog on your fantasies.

What a shame that you don't recognize that the creation as well as the control of our planet is in the hands of our God - not our politicians.


---jerry6593 on 4/16/14


"I obtained data and stats and DID not quote the whole sentence by sentence."-kathr4453 on 4/14/14
"Carbon monoxide (CO) and carbon dioxide (CO2) are often mistaken for one another. Both gases are odourless and colorless."-kathr4453 on 4/14/14
"Carbon monoxide (CO) and carbon dioxide (CO2) are often mistaken for one another. Both gases are odourless and colorless.."-Ambur Vilac & Teresa Kouch on 14 June 2012
-What you did was edit the report that had facts in it and presented as your own by not giving it its right ownership and not using your own words.
"Therefore no harm no foul..I apologize.."-kathr4453 on 4/14/14
How can you apologize for something you don't believe is wrong?
---micha9344 on 4/15/14


In October 2006 Science Daily publicized a study led by Arizona State University staff entitled Giant Insects Might Reign If Only There Was More Oxygen In The Air. ---The study adds support to the theory that some insects were much larger during the late Paleozoic period because they had a much richer oxygen supply, ----In 2010 researchers at Arizona State University presented the results of experiments raising insects in various levels of atmospheric oxygen. Ten out of twelve varieties of insects studied decreased in size with lower oxygen. Some, like dragonflies, grew faster and became bigger in an enriched oxygen atmosphere (Science Daily, October 30, 2010.). OH FUN!!!! Can't wait! Maybe giant RATS too...
---kathr4453 on 4/15/14


Have you not read that because of the increase of CO2 in the atomosphere that worldwide foliage has increased 13% over the past fifteen years? ////


WOW that is astonishing rate of increase. So is the increase in Oxygen also at this rate? So over 100 years what should we expect? And what changes to our atmosphere will take place?? GIANT bugs rats snakes etc??? Giant trees, giant fruit...Giant Jerry's ....Giant EGO's, GIANTS right....just like the times of Noah....hummmm, is that what Jesus meant. No, can't be that. (Monsanto watch out, No food shortage here to profit from). The land of Milk and Honey is on the way, Giant Grapes, just like the Israelites witnessed in the Promise Land.
---kathr4453 on 4/15/14


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Jerry, exactly what are you ranting about? Your false accusations of me only show your total ignorance if not reading one thing I have posted. You will stoop to the depth of an idiot like some others here without any cause.

I was giving the WHOLE picture of ALL we do is affecting our environment, and that man has shown ignorance and often irresponsibility in maintaining and containing any man made resources, and that they ALL affect our environment. Our land, water and atmosphere are intricately woven together in a complex way we are still learning about.

We all know how you feel about CO2. It's creating plant life at unbelievable speed creating so much oxygen that one day we will be worried about oxygen poisoning.
HA!
---kathr4453 on 4/15/14


Now of coarse we know an abundance of oxygen is more dangerous than CO2. But Jerry may argue, look at all those giant plants before the flood, no one was poisoned by an over abundance of oxygen. WELL, maybe God put giant animals and dinosaurs on the earth to balance out that inter-action until the earth began to populate. Giant Dino's fed giant trees who in turn fed the Dino's who fed the trees.

SO, when plagues, aids, wars, disease and who knows what else kill off the population, as we have seen through out history, will lizards evolve into Dino's in order to balance nature? Just the way you want it, going back the way things were before the flood...right!
---kathr4453 on 4/15/14


Steveng, can you find any post I have made suggesting the taking away of co2. The first time I even breathed OUT co2 was when Micha jumped in like a raving maniac foaming at the mouth, where it clearly says co2 IS NATURAL AND IS NOT DANGEROUS. The description posted said NOTHING about causing any greenhouse effects, or that is should be removed. CO was the dangerous one.

So, your lack of evidence that I said anything about removing CO2 from the atmosphere is unfounded.

You would have to remove every breath of humanity to remove CO2 wouldn't you? We breath OUT co2 as well, unless I'm mistaken. The more people the more co2 right. And plants breath in co2 and expel oxygen....YEA! Horrible effect if we breathed out CO.
---kathr4453 on 4/15/14


Steveng, you are admitting the excess of co2 in our atmosphere and the extra increased foliage is the proof of all the extra co2?

Now my comments were about the Dust Bowl, nuclear energy, wind turbines which has nothing to do with CO2 does it? So you're saying we are all safe and sound, no more droughts etc, because we have the gift of EXTRA co2 in our atmosphere. YEA!

And oil....is this recycled dinosaurs??...YEA again. Did I even mention OIL? WHERE?

I brought up nuclear energy...a totally different "animal".

You must read blogs first Steveng, before jumping in with your astonishment of my ignorance of conversations that never took place.

The only one here who is truly astonished is me.
---kathr4453 on 4/15/14


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So you see Steveng! environmentalists want to increase nuclear energy. Now the truth is, my father has many articles written and submitted to congress on the dangers of nuclear energy. He did his research at Hanford and after Chernobyl , Hanford closed down, and he was very instrumental in it's closing. Their plants are built identical. Now we see Japan and the horrible effects. Don't forget 3 mile island. It's also the waste that cannot be properly disposed of. It's killing the NW, and leaking again, causing additional health issues beyond words. As a matter of fact even my father's health was affected while living in WA.

So I totally disagree with environmentalists that more nuclear power plants should be built.
---kathr453 on 4/15/14


Kath: You have convinced me. Global Warming is not merely a myth - IT IS A CULT. You stoop to the most reprehensible tactics (lies, accusations, demeaning of character, plagiarism, twisting of truth, etc. just to hallow your left-wing ideologs. You waste a myriad of words and precious posts without ever addressing any of the issues under discussion or answering the simplest of questions. You are like your father, the Accuser of the Brethren.



---jerry6593 on 4/15/14


kathr4453, your sscientific knowledge astounds me. Have you not heard that if you take away CO2 from the atmosphere, you end human/animal life? Have you not read that because of the increase of CO2 in the atomosphere that worldwide foliage has increased 13% over the past fifteen years? Have you not heard or read that oil does not come from fossils but is naturally occuring? (check out "abiotic oil") Have you not read that even the most educated of persons have their own opinions? Have you not heart that even the most biblical scholars are wrong most of the time because they rely on worldly knowledge of understanding the bible instead of spiritual knowledge from the Holy Spirit?
---Steveng on 4/14/14


Neither kathr nor Laura have shown where I have plagiarized.
Both are bearing false witness and cannot prove their claims.
Judge not lest ye be judged can just as easily fall on you Laura.
1+1=2 is considered plagiarizing? You still are unaware of the use of this word.
I have proven my accusations.
Both of you need to be mature enough to prove yours.
---micha9344 on 4/14/14


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-micha9344 on 4/14/14

I obtained data and stats and DID not quote the whole sentence by sentence. Therefore no harm no foul.....By YOUR own definition.

1st cliff made a statement that I need to know the difference between co and co2. I simply quoted data and facts of the two. Not only for my own info, but for others as well.

Again, I apologize as I did when Micha had a cow calling names and making aweful accusations that were not necessary. Your over reaction of hate speech is the worse sin here Micha. You did it, markvluke dies it, and I know many here have done it! YOU just cannot stop your hateful speech towards me and lurk in the bushes like a pervert just waiting to attack. Read psalms 10. It's YOU.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


The four blood moons are only significant, in themselves, in that it is quite rare to have that many that close.
Couple this with the Sabbatical year Oct2014-Sep2015 and the Jubilee year following, according to many, it seems to be adding up.
Mentioning earthquakes in diverse (various or odd) places, wars and rumors of wars, higher percentages of disobedient children(150 school shootings since Columbine in 1999), I believe His return is nearer than anyone can imagine.
\\9/11 happened on a Sabbatical year (2001) as well as the stock market crash (2008).
Each of these are insignificant in themselves, but together seem to shout "Even So, Come Lord Jesus"\\-micha9344 on 4/2/14
Plagiarism here? Anyone?
---micha9344 on 4/14/14


1 + 1 =2......oh dear, I can't post that because i am stealing someone else's discovery.

H2O. I part hydrogen, 2 parts oxygen....woops...again, this is not known facts and again I have stolen the works and thoughts of Albert Einstein or whoever discovered that fact. Really Micha, did I not apologize. I posted credits for the Wind turbines and bats. If I wanted to be consistently (as you want me to be ) DISHONEST, I would have posted a selfie with the dead bats with a look of shock ans awe of my discovery.

Grow up Micha, what YOU did is clearly stealing and pretending those were YOUR words on the "four blood moons"..... Like you REALLY spend all day studying to find out what a sabbatical year is. LOLAROTF.

---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


It's all starting to make sense. Micha like the SDA's are into Kingdom NOW Theology....and one must know how foul that doctrine is to know how it does tie in with those who think they are going to win the world for Jesus. God forbid any man- made pollution is in the air at that time. It can't be....

Now that I know your doctrinal stand Micha! and that you eat all Kingdom Now doctrine we really don't have much in common. And it explains the spiritual warfare going on here.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


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-One must know what the word means to accuse others of it.
---micha9344 on 4/14/14

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, except for you Michael.

I've always found those who scream the loudest are the most dishonest of all. We all know that is a fact. But let's leave it to Michael to find who originally spoke those words, since the words of truth will escape him, being more into the letter of the law than the spirit of the law.

Judge not lest ye be judged. I did find the ministry and Michael did exactly what he accused another of, repeating bits and pieces, here a little there a little of another's online ministry and pretended it was his own, giving no credit where credit is due. Shame on you.
---Laura on 4/14/14


Again kathr, you don't seem to know what plagiarism is.
obtaining data and stats is not plagiarizing, but quoting an article sentence by sentence is.
Copying and pasting something just because it says what you would have said without proper authorship is lying and stealing.
If you believe I have plagiarized, bring up the source so we can all see.
---micha9344 on 4/14/14


Is this called plagiarism? Woops.

The four blood moons are only significant, in themselves, in that it is quite rare to have that many that close.
Couple this with the Sabbatical year Oct2014-Sep2015 and the Jubilee year following, according to many, it seems to be adding up.
Mentioning earthquakes in diverse (various or odd) places, wars and rumors of wars, higher percentages of disobedient children(150 school shootings since Columbine in 1999), I believe His return is nearer than anyone can imagine.
9/11 happened on a Sabbatical year (2001) as well as the stock market crash (2008).
Each of these are insignificant in themselves, but together seem to shout "Even So, Come Lord Jesus"
---micha9344 on 4/2/14
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


Title: Carbon Monoxide (CO) Versus Carbon Dioxide (CO2)
Written by: Ambur Vilac & Teresa Kouch
Posted: 14 June 2012
PLAGIARIZE(from Merriam-Webster)
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
: to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source
Examples of PLAGIARIZE(from Merriam-Webster)
She plagiarized from an article she read on the Internet.
-One must know what the word means to accuse others of it.
---micha9344 on 4/14/14


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And if you like the sampling of Buck Stephens works that Micha wanted you to believe were his own words on the Four Blood Moons, you too can arrange for Buck and Andi Stephens to speak at your church.

Advancing the Kingdom Ministries is a faith based ministry and is supported by its
partners. Contact us at the address or email above to become a partner with us.

Buck & Andrea Stephens

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Syracuse, New York 13205
---kathr453 on 4/14/14


Micha, my dear poor soul, this information is not classified information or someone's opinion or creative expression. and no why have I taken credit for it. It can also be found in any school book. Actually everything YOU post along with your SUN GOD worshiping posts and ideas on the LAWS OF NATURE and so may others as well were from another's works. Talk about a hypocrite of a major source.

NOTHING you say micha is your own original thought. YOU are the poster child of plagiarism.

Saying Al Gore is this or that is plagiarism. It is someone else's opinion that others have repeated over and over.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


If not posting the source is a major sin, I do apologize. And my finding those facts don't alter the "facts" that micha would like you to believe, or at least throw the conversation in a different direction. At least I did not ALTER any of those words to twist the facts unlike many who have and argue against MAN MADE Global Warming. THAT would be shameful.

Would you like in your own words to refute those facts Micha?

OH and I don't see you railing on MarkvLuke for continually copy and pasting others works as though they were his own. BLOG POLICE!

I'll leave the scientific facts to the scientists. and of coarse Micha I am not a scientist....so any FOOL would know they are not my words or findings. DAHHH!
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


"Carbon monoxide (CO) and carbon dioxide (CO2) are often mistaken for one another....Most people have a hard time determining the difference and do not realize that vehicle exhaust emits both CO and CO2...this build-up of gas can be hazardous to the health and safety of the individual exposed to it."
This, and the rest posted by kathr, came from an article in Cetci Magazine from June 2012 and can be viewed on an environmental website.
Her taking credit for this, without posting a source, is called plagiarism in the literary world and is akin lying and stealing--deceptive to say the least.
She has done this before and should turn from her ways, start posting reference sources and apologize.
---micha9344 on 4/14/14


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As for Ellen White's pre-flood giants, yes, both the Bible and geology bear her out. But why do you bring her up? Just another diversion to avoid the truth perhaps?


---jerry6593 on 4/14/14

Does Geology and the Bible in fact bear witness that EVERYTHING including Adam and Eve were GIANTS? So when God said there were Giants, that was not out of the norm? That meant ALL men were Giants?


What facts bear that out Jerry? the Thing is, if your SLANT on truth is slanted in any way, your slant on "any truth" is slanted and brought into question.

Spouting off degrees you can't even prove you have means nothing. Many with those exact same degrees disagree with you.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


Carbon monoxide (CO) and carbon dioxide (CO2) are often mistaken for one another. Both gases are odourless and colorless. Most people have a hard time determining the difference and do not realize that vehicle exhaust emits both CO and CO2. This build-up of gas can be hazardous to the health and safety of the individual exposed to it.

Carbon Monoxide CO
Doesnt occur naturally in the atmosphere
Result of oxygen starved combustion in improperly ventilated fuel-burned equipment

Carbon Dioxide CO2
Occurs naturally in the atmosphere
Natural by product of human and animal respiration, fermentation, chemical reactions, and combustion fossil fuels/woods
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


carbon tax

a tax on fossil fuels, esp. those used by motor vehicles, intended to reduce the emission of carbon dioxide.

Question: DO cars etc give off Carbon Dioxide? So where is the myth? Just look at LA. You can SEE that, taste that and smell that the moment you get off a plane.

Cars release approximately 333 million tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere annually, which is 20 percent of the world's total, according to the Environmental Defense Fund. Motor vehicles also contribute 72 percent of the nitrogen oxides and 52 percent of reactive hydrocarbons.
---kathr453 on 4/14/14


Jerry, Maybe you could explain the difference between carbon monoxide (approx. same weight as air) and carbon dioxide (heavier than air)
Kathr doesn't see that it's all about money. they want a "carbon tax" of about $50 billion dollars on our oil sands , which is just the beginning!
One of the reasons we didn't buy into the Kyoto pact!
Without carbon, our forests will die!
---1st_cliff on 4/14/14


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Kath: "You know nothing about physics Jerry. Your ignorance is astounding."

I suppose it's possible that I may have missed something while obtaining my degree in Physics, or during the years of atmospheric spectral analysis I spent in the aerospace industry. Perhaps you could show me my error in performing an atmospheric spectral convolution integral over the infrared absorption bands of Carbon Monoxide. This, as I'm sure you're aware, is the starting point for ascertaining the veracity of the CO2-greenhouse effect theory.

As for Ellen White's pre-flood giants, yes, both the Bible and geology bear her out. But why do you bring her up? Just another diversion to avoid the truth perhaps?



---jerry6593 on 4/14/14


Benny Hinn , Osteen, and a long long list of others have made millions and millions and then some exploiting the Gospel. That doesn't make the Gospel a lie. And look at how many scoff at the gospel because they see people like this as the so called poster boys of Christianity.

When scientists first began to notice, back in the 1800, there was no such thing as an al gore. It was not even political. With that.....there has to be some truth in it. Scientists had no political motive one way or another at that time except to report on the affects of all those smoke stacks burning coal in our then modern day industry.

Now there are reports on the affects of cell towers and wind machines. Should we scoff at that too?
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


DENVER (Nov. 15, 2013) More than 600,000 bats were killed by wind energy turbines in 2012, a serious blow to creatures who pollinate crops and help control flying insects, according to a new study from the University of Colorado Denver.

The development and expansion of wind energy facilities is a key threat to bat populations in North America, said study author Mark Hayes, PhD, research associate in integrated biology at CU Denver. Dead bats are being found underneath wind turbines across North America.

Other reports that the sound from these turbines affect animals, also causing death. Who would have THUNK such a thing....as the innocent moving around of air could cause issues Jerry will call a conspiracy and lie.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


al gore has made millions off global warming.
---shira4368 on 4/13/14


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Jerry , as long as you ask in a belligerent way, you will get no respectful answer from me. Ask again like a gentleman and you may get a lady like answer.

What is with you and Warwick in the way you present yourselves.

Questions like......"do you agree with these Wacco , wing nut weirdo's etc etc or not? "


Seriously Jerry, just your question shows arrogance beyond words. And not only so, since you have already made up your mind they are all of the above, you think anyone is stupid enough to walk into such a tar and feathering by you? You're NOBODY Jerry, just one opinion out of billions.

You know nothing about physics Jerry. Your ignorance is astounding.



---kathr4453 on 4/13/14


Let me ask you a question Jerry in the SAME manner you ask.

Do you believe that Waccko, weirdo, wing nut , false prophet heretic
Ellen White's theory that Adam and Eve were Giants along with plants and animals, that shrunk after the flood.

AND does your belief in her false doctrine have anything to do with your belief of global warming?

When GOD chooses to turn up the heat, for one thing it will not be from man made or natural occurrences. AND actually THAT is all that we as Christians should really be concerned with.
---kathr4453 on 4/13/14


Kath: "a genetic mutation in our atmosphere" ?

Now that's a new one on me. Just where is the atmosphere's nucleus with its chromosomes located?

Why do you find it so difficult to answer the straightforward question I asked? Do you believe the "sky is falling" hype by the left-wing kooks or not? Or don't you know what you believe about it?

And yes, you appear to me to be evasive and belligerent in your answers.



---jerry6593 on 4/13/14


Lets stick with GW for the moment. The key assertion put forward by Al Gore and other environmental whackos is that carbon dioxide is a significant atmospheric greenhouse gas, and its production by man will cause the earth to warm, the ice caps to melt, and the oceans to rise killing us all. Do you believe this assertion or not?


---jerry6593 on 4/11/14


The truth is Jerry, the first scientists who brought this to light was back in the 1800 during the industrial revolution, having no political agenda whatsoever at that time. So Al Gore did not make up Global Warming.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/14


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Jerry, if my answers and posts are belligerent to you, you also have issues as does Warwick in accusing others of things not even close to truth. I have posted facts, not belligerence. It's these kinds of remarks that is belligerent in the first place. YOU cannot PROVE through your geology that we are not throwing our atmosphere out of it's natural order. We may have caused a genetic mutation in our atmosphere just like we have in humans, plants and animals with our man made experiments and man made energy, that affects ALL of the balance of everything involving our life.

To say YOU know for a fact it is not is total arrogance on your part.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/14


Kath: I have tried to be a gentleman with you, as I perceive that you are a woman. Will you please lay aside your belligerence for the moment and answer my simple question?


Lets stick with GW for the moment. The key assertion put forward by Al Gore and other environmental whackos is that carbon dioxide is a significant atmospheric greenhouse gas, and its production by man will cause the earth to warm, the ice caps to melt, and the oceans to rise killing us all. Do you believe this assertion or not?



---jerry6593 on 4/12/14


Jerry, the problem I see is in your question. Now it is my understanding you all believe Through Ellen White and her geologist that Adam and Eve were GIANTS and all after were Giants including plants and animals, and that AFTER the flood man , plants and animals shrunk. If that isn't MAN MADE NONSENSE of a form of bazaar evolution, I don't know what is.

And fact is YOU can't PROVE man is not contributing to Global warming.

Ok expert scientist.....PROVE all this radiation pouring into the ocean from Japan IS NOT in some way or another affecting our atmosphere.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/14


We KNOW we are affecting our environment, as I have listed many. These things we can SEE. But what we may not know is the atmosphere ALSO has a balance of nature, if I may use that word. We KNOW when we mess with the physical landscape, we cause changes. That is a fact. When we mess with the Physics of our atmosphere, burying nuclear waste, ( man made) or allowing this man made chemistry into our atmosphere ( see Hanover power plant, WA ) the melt down of Chernobyl on land and atmosphere, BOMBS going off through wars even TODAY, may very well be throwing our atmosphere out of it's natural balance. These are ALL man made. I believe our planet all works "together" land, water and atmosphere. When one is affected ALL are affected.
---kathr4453 on 4/12/14


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E= mc2, Albert Einsteins theory of special relativity that showed that the increased relativistic mass (m) of a body comes from the energy of motion of the bodythat is, its kinetic energy (E)divided by the speed of light squared (c2). This equation expresses the fact that mass and energy are the same physical entity and can be changed into each other.

This has never been disproved. We have technology that prove it's truth.

And with this knowledge also we've created not only good, but a monster as well. This Jerry is what a geologist doesn't understand.

My Father was a physicist, graduated MIT, worked for Hanover , was one of the first nuclear physicists in the USA.
---kathr453 on 4/12/14


Anyone blogging here can be asked to explain their meaning, or to support the truth of an accusation. If anyone will not do so SUGGESTS (as Kath would put it) they have been caught intentionally making a false accusation and will not own up.

As anyone can see Jerry described "Man-made Global Warming" as a Myth. Wivv claims Jerry wrote, "You are the one who claims global warming is a myth." Clearly Jerry has not said global warming is a myth, only that "MAN-made Global Warming" is. Two very different things. Therefore Wivv has erred, either unintentionally, or intentionally. That Wivv has not replied suggests (only suggests) or to put it in the Kath formula ONLY SUGGESTS, it was not unintentional.
---Warwick on 4/12/14


Wivv, you have had plenty of time to admit you have misrepresented what Jerry wrote. Be honest and admit your error. Otherwise we will know you were being deceitful.

---Warwick on 4/11/14


I think we are all getting sick and tired of how Warwick BULLIES people here on line with his tasteless approach to conversation. I see no misrepresentation whatsoever.

This "OTHERWISE we know you are being deceitful" CRAP is only in you're own bullying imagination. NO ONE HAS to answer YOU Warwick. And to say someone is deceitful because they don't is ARROGANCE beyond words. You really are full of yourself.
---kathr4453 on 4/11/14


Jerry you are really behind on your facts. The PLOWING actually did contribute to the drought. We know so much more today then back then.

BUT if you want to argue and deny those facts....what else is there to discuss. It's hard discussing with closed minded people who see government conspiracies in everything.

Some things just take common sense. Not all scientists Jerry are Al Gore liberals!

---kathr4453 on 4/11/14


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Wivv, you have had plenty of time to admit you have misrepresented what Jerry wrote. Be honest and admit your error. Otherwise we will know you were being deceitful.
---Warwick on 4/11/14


Kathryn: Take a deep breath. Relax. Now just what does the Dust Bowl have to do with Evolution or Global Warming? The only connection between these two (GW And Evolution) is that they are government-sponsored frauds. The Dust Bowl was indeed exacerbated by overproduction of wheat, but the plowing did not cause the draught, it was just a prolonged period of no rain.

Lets stick with GW for the moment. The key assertion put forward by Al Gore and other environmental whackos is that carbon dioxide is a significant atmospheric greenhouse gas, and its production by man will cause the earth to warm, the ice caps to melt, and the oceans to rise killing us all. Do you believe this assertion or not?


---jerry6593 on 4/11/14


I love Teddy Roosevelt for starting the National Parks. What a great environmentalist. And oh what a fuss from those who wanted to gut these lands for all the resources. They knew back then, if left unchecked, this country would be one big mine shack and asphalt makeover. Good for them.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with those who want to protect our environment. This world we live in, the water we drink, the air we breath is a Gift from God. We know many genetic disorders ARE our doing by carelessly dumping waste adding unbelievable costs to our health care system.

Now Jerry, bring it on......I'll tell you FACTS about our great NW.
---kathr4453 on 4/11/14


To me this means their technology is nowhere as good as they would have us believe.
---Warwick on 4/9/14

Just to reiterate this from another perspective, the technology or intelligence of man cannot prove or guarantee man is not in some way or another messing with our environment. It works both ways.

I don't care if you are a democrat or republican or what side of this issue you are on, God is laughing at both sides. Because man is so arrogant to believe he has all the answers regardless of what those answers are.

The REPUBLICANS cannot guarantee no damage is being done.
BP LIED about the amount of oil in the gulf....those in VA LIED about the water supply. BIG BUSINESS LIES and we all know it.
---kathr4453 on 4/10/14


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Jerry putting Evolution with Global warming is like comparing pampers with oranges. Evolution has nothing whatsoever to do with global issues. I SAID, because of the DUST BOWL, and out of total stupidity and ignorance, man still plowed the land even AFTER all the dust storms, not realizing THEY were creating this monster themselves by plowing.

Now tell me Jerry, what on earth does that have to do with Government conspiracies?

I SAID we out of total ignorance and STUPIDITY may be messing with our earth in ways WE just don't know or realize.

Now what part of that statement do you have issues with? That man is so intelligent we KNOW what we're doing and we know EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING! How ARROGANT!
---kathr4453 on 4/10/14


Kathryn: I find it strange that you see government cover-up conspiracies in missing airplanes, but can't see the fraud in the government carbon tax schemes in support of a massive hoax.

Can you produce any corroborating scientific evidence in support of Evolution or Man-made Global Warming? ANY? I'm willing to listen and debate the scientific merits of the evidence. Bring it!



---jerry6593 on 4/10/14


For example there has been a large technological search for the Malaysian aeroplane flight MH370. But they still cannot find it. To me this means their technology is nowhere as good as they would have us believe.
---Warwick on 4/9/14

Not picking on your comment here,but there are facts that JFK jr plane was known exactly where it went down and when, but for some reason a coverup and a stall and wild goose chases took place. Since when does the pentagon get involved and takes completely over in everyday citizens....hummmmmm! There was no national issues there. SOOO the plane issue in Asia also having conflicting stories may not be just a lack of ability but more going on than we will ever know.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/14


As for gobel warming it's a religion to some folks.

---Bryan on 4/6/14
On the other hand, when I hear all the rhetoric between the yes and no groups, I can't help but wonder why it seems to line up with Republicans vs Democrats. Or if I'm wrong here, please point out if it's a balance of thought between these two groups. SOOO it's hard not to see politics involved here. Republicans who are Capitalists really don't care how we trash the environment if there is Capital gain involved. And we do see so many of these Capital HOGS take short cuts in protecting the environment ....OK Virginia, how is your water supply lately...is it all cleaned up yet???BP how are things???

The Truth is WE don't know half of what we are doing.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/14


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Rev 11:17-19

---- and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.


I do have to wonder if we are not contributing to all these disasters. I know the Dust Bowl was a HUMAN MADE disaster and boy what a mess that caused issues all the way into the Atlantic Ocean and if I'm not mistaken that dust went as far as the UK. It sure went into the Atlantic and came down on ships in the Atlantic. Has anyone ever seen any footage on that? So yes, cutting down rain forests, fracking ( sp) for natural gas etc is causing changes one way or another in our natural balance of life. Just remember cutting down all those trees in the Appalachians caused one of the greatest floods ever. Man CAN have horrible effects on its environment.
---kathr4453 on 4/9/14


"Mars is undergoing global warming, too."

Of course it is. After all they don't have the Sears Maxi-Cool Central Fresh Air Heat Pump.

That's why this years winter was so harsh... my wife left ours on cool when we went away to the beach....
---Elder on 4/9/14


Wivv, Jerry called "Man-made Global Warming" a myth. But you say he called global warming a myth. The two are very different. I, like others here, believe global warming/cooling are genuine cyclical events not caused by man and not controllable by man. We just aren't that powerful or knowledgeable. For example there has been a large technological search for the Malaysian aeroplane flight MH370. But they still cannot find it. To me this means their technology is nowhere as good as they would have us believe.
---Warwick on 4/9/14


Carbon only comprises about 3% of our atmosphere.
God made CO2 heavier than air for the reason it feeds our forests and vegetation.
In turn the forests produce our life sustaining oxygen.
So, kill the carbon'
kill the forests,
kill the oxygen supply,
kill us!
Is that how it works?

Personally I think it's all about money!
---1st_cliff on 4/7/14


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I remember in the mid-70's when the big climate bugaboo was global cooling.

Even Time magazine had a cover picture of a penguin with the caption, "How to survive the coming ice age."

As I have said, I think these temperature variations are just part of a natural cycle beyond our control.

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/7/14


Cluny: "Global warming is happening"

No. It was happening, but now it's cooling. I think you are on the right track when you mentioned Mars. Our global temperature variations follow the solar output, as does that of Mars. If our planet's average temperature were to follow the man-made CO2 output as has been asserted by the political left, then the global temperatures should have risen dramatically in the last decade (primarily due to China's industry). But they have done the exact opposite (due to lessened solar output). Polar ice has increased, the great lakes have frozen over, etc.


---jerry6593 on 4/7/14


Global warming is happening, but I believe it's part of a larger climatological cycle.

It's not caused by human beings because Mars is undergoing global warming, too.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/6/14


Jerry6593 You are the one who claims global warming is a myth, I don't have to prove otherwise. You made the accusation, now you have to prove it.
---wivv on 4/6/14


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wivv: "How to we know they are myths?"

Because they are founded on nothing but childish conjecture and political hype. Can you name one thing about either that is scientifically factual?

The Bible states that it is God - not man - that destroys the earth by fire.

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.



---jerry6593 on 4/6/14


When God decides to destroy the earth he will not need any of our help. Don't get me wrong I'm not Intopolluting were I live. Mose of the things we make kills us in some way or another, If we just keep things a little more simpler we would not have this problem. As for gobel warming it's a religion to some folks.
---Bryan on 4/6/14


How to we know they are myths? After all, the Bible reads the world will be destroyed. If not by water, than there is not much left except heat and fire. Even nuclear bombs produce heat. Mankind may destroyed itself with its own inventions.
---wivv on 4/5/14


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