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Having God's Approval

Do these have God's approval?

Overhead projection (no hymn sheets or books allowed).

Trousers (pants) for males only.

Women to have their heads covered.

No creche, parents must control their children for a two hour service.

Only one version of the bible allowed.

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//AKA, answered this so well...brevity...( result of: logical intelligence :)// trav

it is a result of something that is way beyond me.

a dog that barks too long and too loud drowns out what the sound of the wind that blows.
---aka on 9/24/14


God called Israel My Son. He also called Jesus My Son. What says you?
---Luke on 9/24/14

Hmmmm, a Pharisee world question. Good opportunity for a few of many names, thanks.

GOD called Israel, Wife, Beloved, Sheep, Lost Sheep, Vine, Fig Tree, Grapes, Olive Tree, Holy Seed, Holy People, My People, Separated People, Peculiar People, Anointed Seed, Chosen, Redeemed, etc,etc. They all fit, perfectly where they apply.

1Jn_3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
---Trav on 9/24/14


//Pointed/posted GOD's spoke persons, Prophets, Apostles, Christ himself for multiple witnesses.
None of these satisfy your need to bash me. These inflame you.//

Trav,
Nothing you say inflames me and I never bash you. Bashing is if I call you any bad names, and I never have. As you have. I don't loss my cool, I am a joyful person all the time. When I answer you I answer towards your answers. An no one enters heaven without Christ. no one. He is the only Way, no matter if a person is a Jew or a Gentle. And every passage is a witness for any other passage, it is all the Word of God. God called Israel My Son. He also called Jesus My Son. What says you?
Is there another way into Heaven other then through Christ?
---Luke on 9/24/14


You just don't get it. Do you have anyone better then God as your witness? Bring him on.
---Luke on 9/23/14


Pointed/posted GOD's spoke persons, Prophets, Apostles, Christ himself for multiple witnesses.
None of these satisfy your need to bash me. These inflame you.
It is not me you have a problem with. It is these GOD chose to reveal his plan with. Even your namesake witnesses, searching/finding a sheep.
Luk_15:6 when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost.
Or?
Mat_23:31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
---Trav on 9/23/14


//Witnesses is found 43 times in scripture. Look em up, quit making us do all your work.//

Trav, the word witness is found in many passages, and in each passage the word "witness" pertains to the context of the message. In Every instance, it pertains to those who the writer was speaking to. If anyone gives you passages, their witness is the rest of Scripture. They don't need any person to be their witness, God is our witness.
You just don't get it. Do you have anyone better then God as your witness? Bring him on.
---Luke on 9/23/14




same apostle said this...Rom_3:21 .... although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it
if it is in the nt, it has been spoken of in the ot.
---aka on 9/19/14
//2Co_13:1 ....In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.//
Trav,
You took the passage in 2 Cor. 13:1 out of context to use when someone answers you.
---Luke on 9/19/14

AKA, answered this so well, I can't add to it. His gift is brevity, ( result of: logical intelligence :) He says more in three word than I do in 30.

Witnesses is found 43 times in scripture. Look em up, quit making us do all your work.
Pro_12:27 The slothful man roasteth not that which he took in hunting: but substance of a diligent man is precious.
---Trav on 9/22/14


First, Rita . . . I would say what is approved by God is good example in the sight of God >

1 Timothy 3:1-10

"rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God." (1 Peter 3:4)

Plus, Paul says, "first of all" to pray "for" any and all people > 1 Timothy 2:1-4. Have hope for wrong people, in prayer for them.

There are places for ones who do not put first things first. They tend to hide with outward stuff, and a psychopath can use their camouflage to blend in and even become their pastor . . . since they evaluate each other by such superficial standards.
---com7fy8 on 9/19/14


// //2Co_13:1 ....In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.//

Trav,
You took the passage in 2 Cor. 13:1 //

witness is a universal truth that is throughout the bible and is a definite foundation for law (ot) and freedom (nt).

the same apostle said this...Rom_3:21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it

if it is in the nt, it has been spoken of in the ot.
---aka on 9/19/14


//2Co_13:1 ....In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.//

Trav,
You took the passage in 2 Cor. 13:1 out of context to use when someone answers you. Paul was telling the Corinthians who sinned that he was coming and by the mouth of two or three witnesses he was going to judge those who sinned in the Church. He was not saying that everyone who speaks now had to have two or three witnesses when they put down a passage since all passages in the Bible have God's witness. You are using one passage out of context every time someone gives you Scripture or when someone answers you. And you in turn put down two or three passages in the Old Testament which were given to Israel people.
---Luke on 9/19/14


"...but an example"??

this testifying,just an example?

"lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and ..." Dt 11:18
---chria9396 on 9/17/14

From closed blog:

Nicely worded Chria. They lived it, we have the testimony.
Which without, myself being a doubting Thomas type, would not believe the Bible as completely.
2Co_13:1 ....In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
Heb_12:1 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
---Trav on 9/17/14




Yes, All in 1. Colo. 2 v 9. Jesus Christ Is The name.
---Lawrence on 8/9/14

Please help me to understand what you are saying. You believe that Heavenly Father, Jesus, and Holy Spirit are all one, one single deity, one divine entity, the Oneness doctrine?

I cannot believe this doctrine. The Jesus of the NT talks over and over of His Father. Even at Jesus baptism, we see all three manifested at the same time.

This verse in Matthew makes no sense in the Oneness doctrine:

Matt 11:27 " All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father, neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him"
---Mark_Eaton on 8/11/14


//Yes, All in 1. Colo. 2 v 9. Jesus Christ Is The name.//

Lawrence,
you finally gave a passage.
"For in Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily"
The question ask here is, what is "the fullness of the Godhead"
the word "fullness" in the Greek means, "Pleroma" in that passage and it means, "That God was in His fullness and not simply in His manifestation. Jesus was fully God and fully man."
And He was fully God and fully man. But in no way does any passage say that the Father was not in His fullness or the Holy Spirit because the writer did not have to say that because neither the Father nor the Holy Spirit were in a fully human body.
---Luke on 8/10/14


Mark
Yes, All in 1. Colo. 2 v 9. Jesus Christ Is The name.
---Lawrence on 8/9/14


None...if the manmade theology ideology trinity doctrines commandments of men was right, I'd be there.
---Lawrence on 8/6/14

So help me out Lawrence, I have a misunderstanding of what you are saying.

You say with your first answer that Jesus, His Father in Heaven, and the Holy Spirit are all God. Correct? Yet, in Deut. and Jesus himself said the there is only ONE God. Therefore, are they (J, HF, HS) all separate gods or all the SAME God?

If we trust the Scriptures, they (J, HF, HS) must be all the same God and somehow all separate but all the same.

Trinity.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/7/14


//. Since it's Deceivingly Wrong & False.
I'm Glad I'm Not part of their Deceiving delusions.//

Dear Lawrence,
You keep complaining about the Trinity and never give any passages to proof your points. You say you are not part of their deceiving delusions, but how do you know you are not deceived? A person deceived does not know he is. That is why they call it deceived. I believe you have been deceived. Don't you belong to the Christian faith? The trinity is one of the essentials of the Christian faith. You oppose the Christian faith. In history they call those people heretics. Why don't you tell us which one of the three Persons is not God? I am ready to hear your proof.
---Luke on 8/7/14


Mark
None.
Isa. 9 v 6. Prophesy, the mighty God, the everlasting Father. Even the Holy Ghost, the name Is Jesus Christ.

If the manmade theology ideology trinity doctrines commandments of men was right, I'd be there. Since it's Deceivingly Wrong & False.
I'm Glad I'm Not part of their Deceiving delusions.

Glory to God & Father, which Is Jesus
Christ.
---Lawrence on 8/6/14


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Lawrence I trust that you are completely fluent in Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic to make such a bold statement as this:- "These peoples names Are taken out of the book of life. They added to n taken away from The Word of God. The trinity ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH."

There is much evidence that the translators of the KJV 'added words for clarity' in very many places. Some newer versions have simply removed those additions whilst there are some newer versions of which we must be wary.
---Rita_H on 8/6/14


The trinity ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
---Lawrence on 8/5/14

Please help me understand which member of the trinity is not God? Is it the Heavenly Father, Jesus, or Holy Spirit?

Or do you reject the idea of perichoresis? That all three are God, inseparable, but separate?

Please do not tell me the word and idea of the trinity does not exist in the Bible. If you do, then please explain what Jesus means in this verse:

John 14:10 "Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works"
---Mark_Eaton on 8/6/14


1 Bible version should be allowed,.The KJV.

Because the revised bible versions Are Corrupted. They have been edited altered changed with words taken out by the Corrupted manmade trinity theologians, scholars n philosophers.
These peoples names Are taken out of the book of life. They added to n taken away from The Word of God. The trinity ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

It takes The Holy Ghost to help peoples to understand The Word of God, Not to be reworded to understand it.
---Lawrence on 8/5/14


Wow! I came from a family, really was not affectionate.. They love to tell joke and laugh but, never affection,dead pan as we say on the affection. I truly believe people sometimes marry the wrongtime or wrong person if you look for affection some people are void of it. Just put my two cents.. In love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 5/6/14


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Rita many people don't know about salvation and church. Many good people don't know any better. That is why we must be a light to them. My son in law is a good person but he brags about not going to church. He just don't get it. Since my daughter married him she has become the same way. My son in law's dad was a Methodist preacher, excuse me he was a "minister". I've never heard him mention God and I've never heard him pray or bless food. I have heard him trying to get me to drink whiskey.
---shira4368 on 5/4/14


Thanks Shira, it sounds as if you had a wonderful upbringing. My parents were wonderful also but not Christians - church-goers yes but not with any personal faith at all. They thought I'd 'lost the plot' when I was saved and began talking about God and Jesus outside of church buildings.
---Rita_H on 5/4/14


Dear Elena, I also have vision problems and black is difficult for me also. In addition I have poor lighting in my home and have lost count of the times I have left the house dressed in navy trousers with black shoes or vice-versa. They look the same indoors but look dreadful together in daylight. Sometimes there is no time to go back indoors to change.
---Rita_H on 5/4/14


Ok Rita, I understand you now. I'm just amake-up person.i use very little make up but I feel half dressed without it. Lol . I dont like overhead projectors, women wearing pants don't bother me. I don't think it bothers God either. I am a King James Bible person. my head is covered with hair.lol. I love hum books. I don't like repetive worship songs. (Boring). I like music that is full of the Holy Spirit. I always kept my children in Church. As a child, I learned a lot in church. When I was 8 or 9 yrs old, lots of times the preacher told the Congregations if we loved our mom, to step out and give her a big hug. I always squeezed her tight. Those memories are always fresh in my mind. I had a wonderful mom and dad.
---shira4368 on 5/3/14


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Hello, my sisters, Shira4368,RitaH you would be on a roll,laugh at me.
I used to be put on purple for my eyebrows to darken, It look like black to me...my friends told me! You be putting on purple eyebrows! You don't realize it? do you? Well, needless, to say I quit doing the eyebrows. Smile...I have trouble with
black, blue.doctor said I was born see only red and green, eventually see other colors, lots of eye surgery.I quit with the makeup.
I used to sit right in the tv close, and they start taking me to eyedoctors.
---Elena9555 on 5/3/14


Lol Rita. God gave us the razor so I could shave my legs. Lol Rita, I got tickled at your comment.
---shira4368 on 5/1/14


Shira, you gave me a good laugh when you stated that your friend doesn't even shave her legs. I am just so pleased that you have a friend who has her priorities right. She obviously knows that time is precious and uses it wisely. Did you ever consider that the hair on our body (God-given by the way) might be there for a reason?
---Rita_H on 5/1/14


Micha by saying "Make-up is not biblical anyway," I mean that it is not mentioned either way. Each must decide for themselves which is exactly what we all do.

This is not up for debate, I've just stated where 'I' stand on the use of the products.
---Rita_H on 4/30/14


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Rita, I didn't mean to offend you but you did say make up wasn't biblical. All I said was there's nothing in bible about makeup. The bible does talk about women who dress to allure men.i don't wear my make up caked on with a trowel. I have a friend who wears no make up, short hair that she just showers, gets dressed and off she goes. She don't even shave her legs. I do all the good stuff when I shower. I love make up.
---shira4368 on 4/30/14


"Make-up is not biblical anyway,"-Rita_H on 4/28/14
"The bible has nothing to say on the subject."-Rita_H on 4/29/14
Could you please reconcile these statements or rephrase so that it doesn't sound like you are playing both sides of the fence?
I can only presume that you have misspoken or I have misunderstood rather than you being hypocritical.
I would much rather understand.
FWIW, I believe that God has given each of us, male and female, a unique look, and if scars worry a person, it didn't seem to bother Jesus.
Why struggle against an earthly difference?
---micha9344 on 4/30/14


Shira - please note I said that I, me, Rita, do not like nor do I use makeup. The bible has nothing to say on the subject. This is MY choice. I said nothing about it being wrong. Don't take offense when none is intended - please.

I like to present the real ME to the world that is all. That's my choice just as using make-up is yours.
---Rita_H on 4/29/14


//rita, what is wrong with make up? I love make up. I get to hide things I don't want anyone to see. lol. where does the bible say anything about make up.//

Dear Shira,
I believe Rita answered your question, there is nothing in the Bible concerning putting on make-up. I'm glad some women wear make-up, they really need it so that others don't stare at them all the time because they look bad without it. Others bring attention wearing too much make-up. So it depends on the intention. If Rita doesn't like make-up it is perfectly ok, if you do, that is also perfectly ok. If people wear make-up to get attention, then it is sin.
Children should also be taken care of by their own parents. Agape
---Luke on 4/29/14


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rita, what is wrong with make up? I love make up. I get to hide things I don't want anyone to see. lol. where does the bible say anything about make up. it does talk about wearing a bunch of stuff to get attention. believe me, Im not getting no attention but makeup keeps me neat....not good looking but neat. I shower everymorning and fix my hair and good ol makeup.
---shira4368 on 4/28/14


Shira and Luke, your points are exactly what I mean.

I wear trousers almost exclusively these days. They are comfortable and decent and I don't look remotely like a man even with my short hair. I don't wear make up either (hate the stuff) and I still look feminine. Make-up is not biblical anyway.

Children are definitely the responsibility of their own parents and we brought ours up well and don't want the responsibility of caring for those of others and risking upsetting parents who have different standard from our own.

Sadly there are very few children in the church I attend these days but we have seen a very small growth.
---Rita_H on 4/28/14


Dear Rita,
those things you quoted that church members have to do, are not by God's approval. They are rules the churches institute for their members many times. Sometimes when the churches get too big, they have to try to control the members, so rules are made. Some rules are very legalistic in nature. There should be order in the church so that the Word can be preached and members can hear clearly without interruption. The clothes women wear is important in that it does not take the attention away from the word, and children can get restless many times and they should be removed by the parents. I know sometimes the churches go to far with their rules. Agape
---Luke on 4/28/14


strongax, I agree that is why I said even tho Jesus wore (probably) long robes, He still didn't look like a female. that was my point. some churches don't want a woman wearing pants to church or to even wear them. I think its absurb. I wear jeans and I don't look like a man. that was my point.
---shira4368 on 4/26/14


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Elena9555:

Thank you!


shira4368:

Yet styles change. Styles that may be commonly worn by men in one age may be commonly worn by women in another age. Curiously, we tend to associate long hair with women - while at the very same time, the most popular image of Jesus shows him with long hair (despite the fact that this would have been highly unusual for a man in his day and age).
---StrongAxe on 4/25/14


I don't actually know exactly what the style was in Jesus time on earth but u can betcha He looked like a man and I bet Mary looked like a woman. Sometimes can't tell the difference now.
---shira4368 on 4/23/14


Rita: There is one thing where one might question your requirements.....

Did Jesus wear trousers?
---Mark on 4/20/14


Hello, God bless you, Bro.Strongaxe, excellant post..that'all we need to do respect, one another whether we agree or disagree on certain points.
We may disagree on some points,we are human beings...God bless you Brother is my prayer.thankyou!
Love of Jesus! Elena9555
---Elena9555 on 4/20/14


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jerry6593:

That is the key thing: respect. If people respect each other - as they expect to be treated - regardless if they have differing opinions, one can have civilized discussions. Attitudes like "I'm right and you're wrong and if you disagree with me you're a hereetic" show no respect for another's positions or opinions.

I don't presume to be an expert on most things. The most I can do here authoritatively is things like "You say the Bible says XYZ. But no, it doesn't." and let everyone draw their own conclusions. I'll leave the mud-slinging to others.
---StrongAxe on 4/19/14


Strong Axe: Elder has been here forever (i.e., longer than me). Please note that although he is Baptist and I am SDA, we respect each other highly, and even correspond with each other via e-mail. Although we disagree on some doctrines, we both love Jesus and are brothers in Him. Sadly, many here can't get along as well as we do.



---jerry6593 on 4/19/14


Well,Sis.Rita, Let me also.say and the glory goes to God, I like Bro.Elder teaching, and reprimands because he was one of the 1st brothers ( he was not scared to call it like it is for women such as myself ) if you are tossed from home to home, situations, you may have to have God
Put someone to say it bluntly, but with wisdom...to.help straighten you out! I am not ashamed to say probably the prayers of this brother, and God know who else...but, It straighten me out! I got delivered from commiting fornication, adultery.
Thank God! That all I say...Cnt been and remains a family to me.
Thankyou Bro Elder for help me.
---Elena9555 on 4/19/14


Elder:

How long ago was that? When I first started coming here (about 2-3 years ago?), the friend who told me about this site called it "the piranha blog" because of all the vicious cannibalistic in-fighting that goes on all the time - and sadly, it hasn't changed much.

In so many blogs, many people hijack this topic and that into their own pet peeve topics (whether it be sabbath worship, the divinity of Jesus, creationism vs. evolution, etc.), and many scream at anyone who disagrees with them, calling them unsaved, heretics, false teachers, and sometimes even calling down curses - hardly Christlike behavior.
---StrongAxe on 4/18/14


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Rita_H on 4/14/14

You are welcome Rita. Its a blessing to be able to share here and God bless you too.

Luke on 4/15/14

Thanks Luke, and yes, God most definitely is in control. Be blessed.
---chria9396 on 4/15/14


//As for hoping for something wonderful, Truth, light, the word shared have blessed here regardless of anything that is not truth. Trusting Him that no matter how bad it gets, He prevails, will prevail, and the rest will pass.//

Dear Chria, those were great words you gave us.
"Trusting Him that no matter how bad it gets, He prevails, will prevail, and the rest will pass"
In the end God is in control of all things. That is why we trust in Him. Agape
---Luke on 4/15/14


Chria 9396, thank you so much for your lovely answer to me. You cannot imagine how much that meant to me. God bless you.
---Rita_H on 4/14/14


Rita_H 4/13/14
I understand what you say concerning staying away from certain blogs, spending less time, hoping for something wonderful to happen.
Your presence here and gentle way have been a blessing. Staying out of debates if they are contentious can be wise. Perhaps just sharing truth as given may work for you. As for hoping for something wonderful, Truth, light, the word shared have blessed here regardless of anything that is not truth. Trusting Him that no matter how bad it gets, He prevails, will prevail, and the rest will pass.
I recall a moderator saying a lot of people come to the blogs on a daily basis,so one would hope that what is true would be available, and seen. In any case, God directs, is in control of all.
---chria9396 on 4/14/14


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Rita, Luke, the posters on CN has changed. When I first got involved with CN there were folks who loved God's Word and wanted to learn.

It was easy to make friends, call each other on the phone and travel to meet some of the people we met here.

My friend married his wife from here.

Not there are attacks, the ones that have always "got to be right" and the dissemblers and troublemakers. There are some plants by Satan that come to tear down the message of Christ.

But we still have those who care for others. Let's focus on them and reject the ones that spread discord.
---Elder on 4/14/14


Dear Rita,
Thank you for your answer. I am also trying to do my best to only answer certain blogs, I can see some who argue on and on, and I sure do not want to get in the middle.
It is sad because Bible topics are great to discuss with one another but there are certain persons who get angry and personal. It's better to stop answering those people. Agape.
---Luke on 4/14/14


Luke, "the bickering here on line for every question or answer is very sad. People here complain about everything someone post or says. Everything is negative, nothing positive." I agree 100% and, as you might have noticed, I come here far less frequently than used to be the case and am more careful in which blogs I become involved. I think that my time here will become less and less unless something wonderful happens on Cnet quite soon.
---Rita_H on 4/13/14


Dear Rita,
I understand what you are saying. What you said happened at your church happens in many churches. Pastors are human, and many times all they know is to pastor a church and not how to handle other matters within the church. The pastor seems to have needed help in other areas of the church. Many churches have different rules. How they dress, what they sing, what bibles to use, what time to show up, and some times the rules do not agree with everyone. But my answer was to show that we are all human and we all fail, even pastors. But the bickering here on line for every question or answer is very sad. People here complain about everything someone post or says. Everything is negative, nothing positive.
---Luke on 4/13/14


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Luke, the six issues are based on things I know about churches attended by several of our friends. Only the creche issue happened in our church (a long time ago).

No we were not upset about another family joining the church but saw double standards being applied. That was no fault of theirs. That pastor was very inconsistent in many ways (not connected with the remainder of my question) and that did not go un-noticed by many others besides us. He lost many members.

The membership went down from more than 200 to about 25 at that time and all because of him seeming to be playing one family off against another and showing favouritism. That was an extremely sad time but is over now. I just wanted opinions here about such issues.
---Rita_H on 4/12/14


\\Cluny NOWHERE have I said that 'we were not cut out for nursery work. Read more carefully the posts of others here\\

Rita, NOWHERE have I said you were "not cut out for nursery work. Read more carefully what I actually posted.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/11/14


Dear Rita,
I see your question was really a complain of the way things run in your church. Something bothered you so much when the new family came to the church.
I believe you have to understand that pastors are human beings who make mistakes as we all do. There is ways to bring things up with the pastors when you see something wrong, or when you disapprove of something. Look at things in a positive way, and let the Spirit guide you on what you should do next. There is just too many Christians who are so critical and negative, even on this website, on almost every question or answer that anyone gives. If you make a mistake, they jump on you, if you answer differently, they get angry and argue. The love of Christ is lacking. Agape.
---Luke on 4/11/14


Cluny NOWHERE have I said that 'we were not cut out for nursery work. Read more carefully the posts of others here.

I made it clear that, when our children were young and we asked if a nursery could be started, we were told "NO, people in this church look after their own and they must learn to behave." Another family were told the same. Some years later a new family joined with five children (same as we had) and requested nursery facilities. The same pastor, who had said NO to us, then asked us, and the other family who'd made the same request, to take turns running a nursery for the new family. That was either double standards or favouritism and not a Christian attitude.
---Rita_H on 4/10/14


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Rita_H: In our church, those who are trained to handle children & those who have flair for children care are selected to conduct & handle children service. Those who do not like to do so are not pushed to do it.
---Adetunji on 4/10/14


"Rita, are you an American? The most common meaning in America for "crche" is "Manger scene.""

Since this is a pure and simple clunyism please post the resource and facts of this statement.

Or maybe this concept musta came from a dream after eating too much pizza, chocolate, drinking a quart of Buttermilk and going to bed without being burped.

What? .... Why of course you can't answer the request. We knew that. Just wanted you to know it also.
---Elder on 4/10/14


If you don't think you are called to be nursery workers, that's ok.

We have a large number of toddlers in our church, so there's a constant sound of coos, gurgles, and the like, as well as a constant parade of mothers taking restless little ones to the bathroom or wherever.

That doesn't bother me at all. These are our future.

As long as they are all brought up to Communion. Children understand eating very well.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/10/14


Cluny, I used the word creche in my question as I've seen others use it relatively recently. I am British. Nursery or Kindergarten would have been the words used when my own children were small.

Long ago we were told very bluntly that we must teach our children how to behave well in church - that it was no-one else's responsibility to do that. We did a good job and they became very well behaved and we could hear the sermon and others were not disturbed by them but, suddenly we were asked to look after someone else's children (in a separate room with no sound system) so that their parents could have some peace to hear the sermons. It seemed that the same rules did not apply to all members and we refused to do it, as did another couple.
---Rita_H on 4/9/14


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Rita, are you an American? The most common meaning in America for "creche" is "Manger scene."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/9/14


I, myself, don't ever remember hearing of the word "creche."
Our church has a nursery which is not labeled but clearly evident as to its use.
It seems from Merriam-Webster that it can be either a nativity scene or a nursery/daycare.
The word is French meaning crib or manger.
It is not appropriate to assume that all readers know what a word means, nor is it good to apply a specific meaning to a word regardless of context.
It seems Rita used the word properly, but Cluny understood a different meaning.
Both were right in a sense, but I don't think they saw each others point of view.
Interestingly, a group of penguin chicks is called a "creche."
---micha9344 on 4/9/14


ToBro.Adetunji, all respect to.you, again.You in my opinion "right on!"
Children respond and stay interested
doing it in a helpfull way like you said they feel apart of the whole thing, not like they are being chastized, the Lord says forbid not the little children come unto him.they be so, happy and
their little faces just glow with happiness..thankyou, Bro.Adetunji, may the Lord bless you.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 4/9/14


\\Cluny. Creche means bla bla bla. So what? \\

Words have meanings so people know what each other is talking about.

You are sounding like Eloy who misused words, but expected others to understand him.

\\We all know what people generally mean by creche. \\

Apparently, you don't.

\\There's no label on the door of any church creche or nursery that I know of. \\

Every church of any size I've been in has had the nursery clearly marked, so you don't know much, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/9/14


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Children learn in a different way. Children in adult auditorium will either disturb or sleep because the environment will be too serene & business-like for them. Children learn much better with play, drama,exercises & movements. These they would not have in adult service.
Forcing people not to use hymn books so that they can raise their hands is unnecessary, the choice should be left to worshippers.
---Adetunji on 4/9/14


The word "creche" can mean a Day Care Center, a group or organization of adults, a play area or even a hospital.

It can also refer to a zoo or menagarie where animals take care of babies not their own.

The context in which the word is used, like so many other words, determine what it means.

---Elder on 4/9/14


Rita_H:

Any church that preaches "thou shalt do this" and "thou shalt not do that" - when this and that are not specifically mentioned in scriptures - is adding to the law, and becoming legalistic, as the Pharisees were. This is the exact trap that both Jesus and Paul preached against.
---StrongAxe on 4/9/14


Elder - agree absolutely.

Cluny. Creche means bla bla bla. So what? We all know what people generally mean by creche. There's no label on the door of any church creche or nursery that I know of. They just utilise a space for it if they have one and each church will have their own name for it. The name is not an issue it's how people are made to feel after being refused the facility or forced to use it when they wish their children to stay with them. It's good to have choice if there are workers 'willing' to man one, no-one should be forced to do or not do.
---Rita_H on 4/9/14


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\\Pants did not exist in Jesus' day anyway.\\

Yes, they did. Trousers were worn by the ancient Persians onwards.

RitaH, "creche" means neither cry room nor nursery. It refers to the Manger scene telling visually the story of the Birth of our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ that some faithful set up in their homes and is done in some churches.

Some decades ago, the Bishops of the OCA said that the New RSV could not be used in either worship or for catechetics or adult education. What people read in their homes was their own business.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/8/14


Rita, this is simply a "When in Rome" issue.

If there is something of value for you in the activity you are getting involved in then accept the "dress" code.

There may be no spiritual value or Biblical directive to demand you do it like you are being told. If you want part 2 you gotta do part 1. It is that simple.

I personally do not like replacing the Bible or Hymn books with projectors.

I don't like preaching without dressing in a suit and tie. If I must I will not make an issue of it because there are greater things to be concerned with.

I will be Roman or Greek, apart from sin, to get God's work done.
---Elder on 4/8/14


Shira and Adetunji - I have limited sight but was told "Sit at the front if you cannot see the projector - just so all hands could be raised. I need my book. We asked if a creche could be started many years ago and were told NO. Some years later when a new large family joined and asked the chief elder for a crech - guess who they asked to run it? We refused.

A woman in pants is NOT 'adorned as a man' unless she wears pants made for men. Pants did not exist in Jesus' day anyway.

Head covering is not an issue in our church but I've been in some where it has been and have been handed a scarf to cover my head which I handed back. I use many versions of the bible.
---Rita_H on 4/8/14


rita, all the churches are using a projector but I hate them. I love song books. who care if a woman's head is covered? I don't wear pants to church but it isn't wrong. at least they are going to church. I was just raised to wear dresses to church. a personal choice. I do believe children should be with their parents at church unless they are small like a newborn. one of the ways I was grounded is being in church with my parents. parents should control their children all the time, not just in church. anyone that has been on cn for a while knows I am a king james person.
---shira4368 on 4/8/14


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Rita_H: 2 things i find not ok among the listed items, 1) no hymn book allowed, 2) no children's department, mothers must stay with child throughout the service. I find these as very stiff regulations.
---Adetunji on 4/8/14


Cluny, I'm afraid that I did not make my question as clear as I could have.

I was thinking of these things in any one particular church (not necessarily ALL in the same one). Leaders of one church saying "You will all start using **** version of the bible". "We are no longer having hymnals because you must have hands free to raise them when we sing". "All children must sit through whole service and be taught to behave well" etc.

Some leaders are becoming control freaks who must be obeyed. If it's not scriptural it should be challenged. Some of these people hate being challenged.
---Rita_H on 4/7/14


That sound like witch craft not a God od the universe.
---Bryan on 4/7/14


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