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Hagee's Blood Moon Prophecy

John Hagee's blood moon prophecy: Right or wrong?

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 ---Leon on 4/10/14
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"Doesn't scripture list several signs all happening at one time? Something with the sun, 1/3 of the stars falling etc. something like that???...You still need to look...for ALL the pieces to fit."-kathr4453 on 5/1/14
Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood,
Yes, Kathr, we must look for all the signs.
"the fulfillment of Jubilee AKA Pentecost was INFACT very dramatic."
Pentecost is a yearly event, whereas the Jubilee is semicenturial.
Since you think Jubilees are ended, do you also think that Passovers and Pentecosts have ended?
---micha9344 on 5/1/14


"...Assume for a moment that Hagee is right, so what, what should people do in light of that? ...I know, give money to him."
---Rod4Him on 5/1/14


You may if you like Rod', but I can't assume to be right what the Bible doesn't verify as such. Hagee can only be right in the sense that his sensationalized spin (tale) is right on targeting (bullseye) the minds of his followers & certainly is making him a huge "PROFIT" in book royalties, & at speaking engagement.
---Leon on 5/1/14


//Also the first Passover held in the "new" Israel was in 1949, which just happed to be a full lunar eclipse.//

That is significant perhaps to you, Hagee and his followers, not to Israel.

//The prophecy of the "blood moons" did not require them to be over Israel.//

I missed the scripture where the US is the center of the world. Granted, scripture doesn't say, Israel, however, the area of Israel is the primary focus of scriptural happenings.

Any given year can be referenced, and I bet I can name a significant event.

Assume for a moment that Hagee is right, so what, what should people do in light of that? ...I know, give money to him.
---Rod4Him on 5/1/14


Doesn't scripture list several signs all happening at one time? Something with the sun, 1/3 of the stars falling etc. something like that???

But Hagee and his cohorts are selling a lot of books and making a killing, like all false prophets. There will always be gullible people in the world.

Keep your eyes on The Lord, stay alert, be watchful, because satan will use any means he can to distract you. Even get you stoned at the same time because your back is hurting.

Yes Micha, the fulfillment of Jubilee AKA Pentecost was INFACT very dramatic.

You still need to look for the red heifer Micha for ALL the pieces to fit.
---kathr4453 on 5/1/14


'Axe, Rod', Sam: In a suspiciously vague & generalized sense, Hagee prophetically suggests "Something Is About To Change". Does he correctly understand heavenly signs?
---Leon on 4/30/14




Rod, Israel declared their independence in 1948. in 1949 it was established by enacting a president and being recognized by other nations. Also the first Passover held in the "new" Israel was in 1949, which just happed to be a full lunar eclipse.
The prophecy of the "blood moons" did not require them to be over Israel.
Strong, these are all just facts, and I have made no predictions. Yet Jesus has told us to look for the signs, but also be wary and wise. The danger does lie with what people do with what they are given.
Kathr, still being dramatic as usual. There is no need for useless speculation and putting words into things that aren't there.
All-in-all, some good replies, but where is God in all of this?
---micha9344 on 4/30/14


Good points Strongax and Rod4him.

People who follow the Secret rapture theory are dispensationalist. Which means they are not supposed to use the Old Testament for doctrine. They do it when they want to but there is supposed to be a wall between the two.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/30/14


//1949-1950 Establishment of the current country of Israel//

Israel became a nation in 1948. They will celebrate this coming Monday, May 5th. Nobody in Israel will see these "blood moons they don't happen there.
---Rod4Him on 4/29/14


micha9344:

The Bible makes no particular mention that four blood moons in any given year have any special significance. While the four years you mentioned may have been fairly momentous, there have been other years where even more momentous events have occurred, without the blood moons.

Trying to fit current events to astronomical phenomena is somewhat like astrology, which can be at best foolish, and at worst quite harmful - look at all the Christian doomsayers with apocalyptic books saying Christ will return in 1982, 1988, 2012, etc. etc.
---StrongAxe on 4/30/14


Micha, there are no more Jubilee years. Here's the thing, Jubilee pointed to Jesus Christ. All that has to do with Jubilee was fulfilled at the time of Jesus death resurrection, ascension. Into heaven and the Coming of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. ALL DEBTS ARE PAID....JESUS PAID THEM ALL.

So why are you divided on OT Law pointing to Christ and not keep the Sabbath as well?

---kathr4453 on 4/30/14




There have only been 7 tetrad full lunar eclipses since Christ.
Here are the last 3 with notable histories of each.
1493-1494 Columbus exploring the western world.
1949-1950 Establishment of the current country of Israel.
1967-1968 Israel expands it borders to include Hebron and the rest of Jerusalem.
These, of course, seem mere coincidence without recognizing the sovereignty of God.
So, what is in store for this tetrad, which the first of the total sequential lunar eclipses have already occurred?
Adding to this 9/11 on 2001 and the stock market crash of 2008, 2015 seems to hold many special things.
Some say that it starts a Jubilee year as well.
---micha9344 on 4/29/14


Wrong thinking...because "blood moons" happen in America will cause something extra unique to happen with Israel is very bizarre...talk about self-centered thinking. Something is always happening in Israel.

The Jewish feasts of Passover and Sukkot always occur on a full moon, so a blood moon would be somewhat expected.

However, as others have mentioned, at least he is aware of the Tanakh and Israel.
---Rod4Him on 4/29/14


My daughter went to Houston Baptist University. One of the things she commented to me on. Was that many of the students who had been in Christian schools or home studied in Christian homes were ignorant of the Old Testament.

Having gone to Seventh day Adventist church schools she found the Old Testament courses some what repetitive which was happy about. Since they did not require her to study much.

She graduated with honors. Sorry I cannot help but brag a little. Proud Papa.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/29/14


//Does anyone besides me wonder if there are a lot of Christians today who have never read the Old Testament? That would explain why they think God is all love and no wrath.
---KarenD//


Dear Karen,
I agree very much. I believe that many are only interested in what Jesus did for us after He came, and people do not want to know what God did before His arrival. Too much pain and violence in the Old Testament. They forget that God is the same yesterday, today and forever. The way He worked in the Old Testament with the people of Israel, and how He worked for all people after He came is quiet different. But salvation has always been by Grace through faith, nothing has changed only that Gentiles are now included. Agape
---Luke on 4/28/14


Does anyone besides me wonder if there are a lot of Christians today who have never read the Old Testament? That would explain why they think God is all love and no wrath.
---KarenD on 4/22/14

Oh yes....it's noteworthy. The Old Testament was written too, by and for the same people the New Covenant Testament is.
What is more alarming is without knowing or having it being pointed too many today go against the prophets that GOD chose in the Old Testament.
Who would knowingly go against these prophets?

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
---Trav on 4/27/14


\\Huh?! ~ Aight!!! Try Times New Roman, 10 point (pica) 'Axe.\\

10 point is not the same thing as pica.

Point size in type fonts are from the top of the ascender to the bottom of the descender (the tails on y and q, for example).

Pica on a typewriter means 10 characters to the inch.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/27/14


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"Leon: With small screen fonts, I misread your post as "Let us pray for a change of heart in the nude people.", and thought "perhaps it would be more useful to pray for a change of clothes... :)"
---StrongAxe on 4/25/14


Huh?! ~ Aight!!! Try Times New Roman, 10 point (pica) 'Axe. Yeah, I'm really tired of seeing the rude, nude people "moon" the CN blogs too. I wonder what Hagee would have to say about that? :D
---Leon on 4/26/14


KarenD:

It is often said that "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" - because someone who has it knows enough to be able to think of himself as an expert, but not yet enough to realize how naive and conceited such an opinion is. This applies to many areas, bible study included.


Leon:

With small screen fonts, I misread your post as "Let us pray for a change of heart in the nude people.", and thought "perhaps it would be more useful to pray for a change of clothes... :)
---StrongAxe on 4/25/14


True Mark Eaton. Thx for your genuine concern! Let us pray for a change of heart in the rude people.
---Leon on 4/22/14


Does anyone besides me wonder if there are a lot of Christians today who have never read the Old Testament? That would explain why they think God is all love and no wrath.
---KarenD on 4/22/14


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1 Thessalonians 2:2
But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention.

Well StevenG, maybe because the True Gospel is being preached less and less, as Osteen and all those who preach a false Gospel want to make those who would lay down their life for it feel ashamed. Peace Love Dove???

Even from the very beginning of Cain and Abel we see contention! We'll see it escalate through the Tribulation as the two witnesses are murdered for speaking the truth.
---kathr4453 on 4/21/14


In today's world, love has practically evapoated from the face of the world
---Steveng on 4/19/14

I would say that love has evaporated from these blogs.

I am saddened by this blog.

Love is how our God operates. How can we found in Christ if we have not love for the brethren? I consider most people on these blogs to be my brethren. I practice "in necessary things unity, in unnecessary things freedom, and in both charity"

But, if we are to be like Jesus and His Father, we must not behave rudely (1 Cor. 13:5).
---Mark_Eaton on 4/21/14


Jesus said that we are to do greater miracles than he did while he was on Earth.
---Steveng on 4/19/14

No He did not, Jesus said we would do greater WORKS not miracles. No human can do GREATER miracles than God Himself.

The greater WORKS are the preaching of the Gospel....not miracles. Those Miracles were done to SHOW that Jesus was God. The Apostles did miracles to show they were called by God to be His Apostles testifying of Jesus that He Is God in the preaching of the Gospel.




---kathr4453 on 4/21/14


//In today's world, love has practically evapoated from the face of the world setting up the revealing of the Anti-Christ. Most christians today are counterfeit christians not believing in prophsy and miracles.//

The same was true of the past. Most Christians were counterfeit Christians. Most were enslaved by the Roman Catholic Church. Christian history shows the murder of many innocent Christians by other Christians. Nothing has changed.
Most christians then, in the past, as today were/are counterfeit christians believing in prophsy and miracles. Nothing has change, only there is more of those today claiming new revelations. The Bible has closed. Agape
---Luke on 4/21/14


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You're right Steveng. It really would be a "great" miracle if some of the pseudo-christian "hell-raisers", on this blog, would begin to practice loving others in a Christ-like manner. Yes, there are self-deceived, loveless, counterfeits (false) people everywhere...
---Leon on 4/20/14


\\Jesus said that we are to do greater miracles than he did while he was on Earth. \\

Do you or your worldly denominational church do greater miracles, Steveng?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 4/20/14


The scriptures of the OT and NT are not complete until Jesus returns.

If you believe taht all has been fulfilled when Jesus left is putting God's work at an end. That also means there are no more miracles, there are no more works of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said that we are to do greater miracles than he did while he was on Earth. Everything the apostles did christians can do. It is the use of prophesy and of miracles that prove the existance of God and Jesus. In today's world, love has practically evapoated from the face of the world setting up the revealing of the Anti-Christ. Most christians today are counterfeit christians not believing in prophsy and miracles.
---Steveng on 4/19/14


Trav: Do you mean to say verified by the word of God given thru the OT prophets & NT apostles...as recorded in the Bible?
---Leon on 4/15/14

Yes.
When discussing scriptural matters a preacher or individual should bring these confirming witnesses to back him up. All prophets and apostles are easily available to do so.
Then any argument is with these chosen by GOD, not the individual bringing them.
If they don't see or believe two or more witnesses.....
Joh 8:17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
Joh 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Joh 8:45 because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
---Trav on 4/20/14


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\\From now on I will ignore all comments posted by rude bloggers & I pray the moderator(s) will take the appropriate action to stop these immature hell raisers.\\

Does this include the moderators taking appropriate action against yourself, Leon?

You've made rude comments to me and others from time to time.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/19/14


'Axe: It's quite apparent some bloggers don't really have anything to bring to the table, so their primal "sinstinct" is to food fight.

From now on I will ignore all comments posted by rude bloggers & I pray the moderator(s) will take the appropriate action to stop these immature hell raisers.
---Leon on 4/18/14


Strong Axe: Thank you for the moment of sanity. I too decry this constant piracy of someone's legitimate blog by a person (Lee, eLee, MaryG, Cluny, Kathr4453, etc.) who has a personal axe to grind against SDA's and takes it out on everyone.



Kathr4453: "Ellen White wrote a book called, 'Questions On Doctrines'"

EGW was not the author of this book. It was first published in 1957, 42 years after her death. You should put a little more effort into polishing your lies.



---jerry6593 on 4/19/14


As I look at this blog today, I see that about half the posts (i.e. most of those in the past several days are nothing but a mud-slinging fight about Ellen White and Sabbath-keeping and Seventh Day Adventism, none of which are even remotely related to the topic of this blog.

So many blogs get hijacked into several people's favorite pet divisive doctrines. Can we PLEASE create blogs solely for fighting about those issues, and get back on topic here and elsewhere?
---StrongAxe on 4/18/14


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A prophet is a person regarded as a Holy Spirit inspired (filled) teacher or proclaimer of the will of God:

True Old Testament (OT) prophets got their revelations "directly" from God. New Testament (NT) prophets got their inspired revelations from the written word of the OT, from first hand experiences with Jesus & Holy Spirit filled NT writing, & interpretation of the whole of Scripture. Furthermore, Jesus prophesied OT & direct revelations from God the Father.

Any teaching/proclamation outside of the Old & New Testament Bible record is FALSE (WRONG)! That's true no matter what period of time (past, present, future) we humans lives in.
---Leon on 4/18/14


OK, you've just convinced me that you're just another pseudonym of "Warwick", the great hater of anyone who has a different point of view. Do you really believe putting Al Gore down, or anyone , raises you up? Good luck with that in the Judgment.

If you were truly seeking to turn us from our wrong path for our salvation, you would use Scripture-based reasoned argument rather than your usual arsenal of lies, slander and childish name-calling. To say we will all be condemned because we don't keep the Sabbath is lies, slander and false doctrine.

AND anyone who pulls scripture out of context to use as a GUN to shoot another is witchcraft. Any CULT can do that when confronted, and in no way makes that scripture true .
---kathr4453 on 4/18/14


Ellen White wrote a book called, "Questions On Doctrines," claiming to have receive revelation from HEAVEN. HEAVEN???? Or God personally, or Jesus Personally? How does she know it was from Heaven? Joseph Smith said he received a new religion from God and Jesus or an angel or something.....Is what we call a CULT.....
These revelations among many others:
1. Soul sleep: A LIE rejecting the New Creature IN CHRIST
2. Those who do not keep the Sabbath have the MARK OF THE BEAST , Another Horrible LIE, again denying the truth of Those IN CHRIST, a NEW CREATURE are in-lawed to Christ as members of His Body, and not the Law, and a total assault on the Body of Christ. No SMALL potato's here.
---kathr453 on 4/18/14


\\Correction, the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of propheCY.\\

In SDA speak, "spirit of prophecy" does not mean the Holy Spirit, as it does to Christians, but the ravings and false prophecies of Ellen Gould White, whose name adds up to 666.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/18/14


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And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

Well, first of all StevenG, God calls them witnesses! not prophets, and secondly they propheSY. So maybe you didn't read my other post and the difference between propheCY and propheSY.

And what does Revelation say the Spirit of prophesy does?

Anyone who has the testimony of Jesus has the Spirit of prophesy. So everyone today who has Christ in them, the moment they open their mouth and testify of Jesus has the spirit of prophesy. NOT PROPHECY.

The two witnesses will REITERATE what God has already spoken since The beginning of Genesis.
---kathr4453 on 4/18/14


Correction, the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of propheCY. Now read the very beginning of Revelation, where John is given this propheCY directly FROM God, Jesus Christ Himself. Jesus says to John...I AM THE BEGINNING END FIRST LAST ALPHA OMEGA, so we see Jesus identifies Himself to John. John is the messenger of JESUS, just as Paul was spoken to and shown things directly FROM The RISEN Christ.

But we, As members of Christ's BODY, all truth flows down from the HEAD, Jesus Christ to the Body. Jesus is made UNTO US wisdom and knowledge of Him. Something totally different.

Because of John and Paul the scriptures are COMPLETE.

God did not carry Ellen White off into heaven to show her anything.
---kathr4453 on 4/18/14


So just to reiterate here Steveng, so I haven't caused any confusion, or woken a sleeping dragon to come and call me names and liar etc.....

To be shown things TO COME, as was shown to John! that is called true PropheCY. And the testimony of Jesus referred to in Revelation as the spirit of propheCY, is reiterating that Revelation is not only things to come, but directly out of the mouth of Jesus as to these things to come.

The Gift of propheSY, we have as Christians! will also be shown in the two witnesses. They will not have anything to ADD to what has already been written. REPENT or Wrath is their message.
---kathr453 on 4/18/14


Kathr4453: OK, you've just convinced me that you are just another pseudonym of "Lee of Many Names", the great hater of SDA's. Still practicing your religion of "Salvation by SDA Bashing", I see. Do you really believe that putting others down raises you up? Good luck with that in the Judgment.

If you were truly seeking to turn us from our wrong path for our salvation, you would use Scripture-based reasoned argument rather than your usual arsenal of lies, slander and childish name-calling.


---jerry6593 on 4/18/14


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kathr4453, "Samuel, Jesus Christ is the LAST prophet, Priest and KING."

If you believe what you just said then you will be one of the majority of christians who will celebrate the death of the last two prophets mentioned in Revelation just before the return of Jesus.

Then go back and read my 4/15/14 post.
---Steveng on 4/17/14


Samuel, the idea that Ellen White was a prophet based on visions and dreams etc is of itself a lie.

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds,

Samuel, Jesus Christ is the LAST prophet, Priest and KING.

We don't need anything Ellen White has said. If one prediction is false, that prophet is false. Ellen does not have a 100% accuracy record....
---kathr4453 on 4/17/14


Dear Kathr

Sister Harmon who latter became Sister white was a child during Millers teaching. She did not have a vision saying his date was the Second Coming. The Vision referred to was after 1844 and talking about what the problem was with Miller's understanding.

If you read the prophets of the Old Testament. They are telling people they are wrong for breaking the laws of GOD.

Which is what Sister White also did.

Hagee is not a prophet. He is just wrong in his theory. Miller was wrong too.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 4/17/14


No Kathr not everything bad happening is GODs wrath. But some could be. GOD wrath is coming against all who deny the LORD JESUS CHRIST. Are you saying this is wrong?
We preach and teach that a person is saved by Grace through Faith. We are created to be obedient to GOD by being Born Again by the HOLY SPIRIT. Read Romans 6,7,8 and see Paul taught this also. Read First John to. So you are saying that this is false gospel?
We worship GOD alone like the First of the Ten Commandments says. We respect certain people. Like Martin Luther, John Wesley and others. We do not worship them or Sister White.

I have been a Seventh day Adventist for 40 years now. I know what we teach.
Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 4/17/14


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Ya know Jerry, when you started promoting Ellen White's ideas that Adam and Eve were GIANTS I really had to stop and take a deeper look at this Ellen White.

I never really paid much attention to your beliefs except for the Sabbath you claim we are under, believing that is why the Wrath of God is coming to all not SDA's, and that you believe every bad thing happening from the beginning of time is God's WRATH, I had to take notice of KNOWING we are in the age of Grace TODAY. So I have no fears of facing God or Heaven. YOU preach a false Gospel, mislead others in these days, and will also in the end. YOU need to be afraid of facing God. YOU worship man before God. Ellen White is a FALSE PROPHET!
---kathr4453 on 4/17/14


Ellen White is considered a prophet by the SDA for also supposedly predicting the San Francisco earthquake??after the fact. ...
Let's see, the SDA's even back in the early 1900 believed everything bad happening was the WRATH of God. That's what led Miller in his predictions as well. Ellen said God's Wrath, because of sin, would be on San Francisco "and Oakland" just like Sodom and Gomorrah. So let's see, did those in Sodom run to Gomorrah out of harms way? Oh, but many did go from San Francisco to Oakland out of harms way.

These kind of prophecies are FALSE. And again SDA's....the Wrath of GOD is not yet here. But to these lawyers under LAW, they simply do not understand end times WHEN the wrath of God will begin.
---kathr4453 on 4/17/14


Kath: You, like Cluny, have no idea what you're talking about. What is your motive for denigrating SDA's and EGW? Do you think that such satanic methods will curry favor for you in heaven?



---jerry6593 on 4/17/14


"Time Setting in 1843 and 1844

Ellen put her visionary stamp of approval on William Millers non-biblical date setting for the Second Coming of Christs in 1843 and 1844 by visions. A true prophet of God would have condemned Miller and not agree with him.

EGW: I have seen the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered, that the figures were as he wanted them, that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed." Early Writings, p. 74."
---kathr4453 on 4/16/14


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\\Yet another lie, Kathr? She taught that ONLY the Father in Heaven knows the date. Are you so filled with hate that the truth is not important to you?
\\

But this was only after she realized that Miller's date setting was pointless.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/16/14


Total eclipses of the moon--aka blood moons--are predictable astronomical events.

Therefore, to say they have spiritual, much less apocalyptic or prophetic significance is nothing more or less than astrology, which is sinful.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/16/14


Kathr: "Ellen white tried and failed like so many based on bogus this and that's counting dates, etc. "

Yet another lie, Kathr? She taught that ONLY the Father in Heaven knows the date. Are you so filled with hate that the truth is not important to you?



---jerry6593 on 4/16/14


Prophets have two jobs: one, to tell the world of what is about to occur and, two, to edify the church. (1 Corinthians 14:3)

Prophets, even today, are part of the true church. (1 Corinthians 12:28, Ephesians 4:11)

If there are true prophets and teachers there are also false prophets and teachers. (2 Peter 2:1)

There were prophets in the early church. (Acts 11:27, Acts 13:1, Ephesians 3:5 )

The christians who believe that prophets don't exist in today's world will celebrate the death of the last two prophets not only because they tormented the people that dwelt on the earth, but also that they didn't conform to denominaional church's doctrine.
---Steveng on 4/15/14


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"...If a preacher preaches things not verified by the prophets or Apostles....he is false. If a prophet, prophecies and they don't come true....even one....they are not of GOD.

'2Pe_2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.'"
---Trav on 4/15/14


Trav: Do you mean to say verified by the word of God given thru the OT prophets & NT apostles...as recorded in the Bible?
---Leon on 4/15/14


(synonyms)....Why do you think they aren't? A preacher indirectly speaks forth the word of God. A prophet directly speaks forth the word of God. Both speak the word of God!
---Leon on 4/15/14

Both preacher and prophet can be false. Many are. If a preacher preaches things not verified by the prophets or Apostles....he is false.
If a prophet, prophecies and they don't come true....even one....they are not of GOD.

2Pe_2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
---Trav on 4/15/14


\\Why do you think they aren't? A preacher indirectly speaks forth the word of God. A prophet directly speaks forth the word of God. Both speak the word of God!\\

But that doesn't make "preacher" and "prophet" synonyms.

But I think we both agree that Hagee's blood moon prophecy is NOT the word of God.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/15/14


"...You don't think that preacher and prophet are synonyms, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!"
---Cluny on 4/14/14


Why do you think they aren't? A preacher indirectly speaks forth the word of God. A prophet directly speaks forth the word of God. Both speak the word of God!
---Leon on 4/15/14


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Harold Camping predicted this date, and that date, and the other date - each more certain than the last - and each one totally wrong in retrospect. How many people's faiths were irreperably harmed because they believed this or that preacher's doomsday date-setting, that was later proven false?
---StrongAxe on 4/15/14


What is really confusing about your messianic Jewish beliefs Micha is that you don't worship on Saturdays. I wonder about those tossed to and fro with every wind of doctrine that comes along, and then wanting to claim it as their own.

Quoting others works does not make you spiritual Micha. It reveals you have no living waters of your own.

I forgive you of this hate, and know from where it comes. Maybe you don't, but I do.

Repent Micha. The true body of Christ is not praying.."come quickly Lord Jesus". We're trying to get as many off this burning ship before that day. We won't be able to, and THAT is why God will wipe away our TEARS.
---kathr4453 on 4/15/14


I agree Shira...no one can predict the second coming or the rapture. Ellen white tried and failed like so many based on bogus this and that's counting dates, etc.

Micha, I see you are into that, posting all sorts of dates, sabbattical hears, jubilee years etc....do you really believe things like that will predict the coming of Jesus Christ....or is it true only the Father knows when. Did you just ignorantly read and post from a web site you had no clue what it was...or are you a messianic Jew?
---kathr4453 on 4/14/14


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no one knows when the coming of the Lord will be. hagee should know that too. I have children and grandchildren who are not saved. while I don't know what will happen tonight, I know the end is near.
---shira4368 on 4/14/14


\\Can one be a false teacher/preacher (one who inacurately speaks forth the word of God) & not be a false prophet?\\

Yep.

You don't think that preacher and prophet are synonyms, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/14/14


"Hagee was not one of the 12. He is a false teacher but not a false prophet.

He is Wrong."
---Samuelbbb7 on 4/14/14


One of the twelve what Sam, apostles? Can one be a false teacher/preacher (one who inacurately speaks forth the word of God) & not be a false prophet?
---Leon on 4/14/14


Hagee was not one of the 12. He is a false teacher but not a false prophet.

He is Wrong.
---Samuelbbb7 on 4/14/14


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Judas didn't look like he had much "spiritual" significance either... until the time came.
---micha9344 on 4/14/14


"...For the same reason that Barack Obama is not the Antichrist.

Neither has enough spiritual significance, or even spiritual oomph.

Glory to Jesus Christ!" [?]
---Cluny on 4/13/14


Oomph: the quality of being exciting, energetic, or sexually attractive.

Hmph! Freaky!!!
---Leon on 4/13/14


\\Please explain why not.
---Leon on 4/13/14\\

For the same reason that Barack Obama is not the Antichrist.

Neither has enough spiritual significance, or even spiritual oomph.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/13/14


"...I don't think that Hagee rises to the level of false prophet.

Glory to Jesus Christ!"
---Cluny on 4/12/14


Please explain why not.
---Leon on 4/13/14


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\\So, I think you're saying Hagee is a false prophet?
---Leon on 4/11/14\\

I don't think that Hagee rises to the level of false prophet.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/12/14


I would lump these kinds of false prophecies in the same category as Y2K. Nonsense!!!!
---KarenD on 4/12/14


Well said Gordon. :-)
---Leon on 4/11/14


Wrong.

Blood moon is merely another name for total lunar eclipse, and these are predictable with scientific accuracy.

Anything so predicted is not miraculous.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/11/14


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Okay, aka! So, I think you're saying Hagee is a false prophet?
---Leon on 4/11/14


Hi, Leon. Well, as far as John Hagee goes, I personally do not trust him. He believes that those of Jewish/Hebrew blood do not need Yahushua (JESUS CHRIST) for Salvation just because they are the physical descendants of Abraham. Of course, we know what the LORD says to that, from LUKE 3:8.
Anyone who disregards a simple truth such as JOHN 14:6, as Hagee does, can't be trusted for other things.
Though this response does not answer the subject of the Blood Moons themselves...
---Gordon on 4/11/14


John Hagee's...anything.

Noyhing else needs said...Wrong.
---aka on 4/11/14


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