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What Is True Religion

What is TRUE religion? Religion can be defined as belief in God or gods to be worshiped, usually expressed in conduct and ritual or any specific system of belief, worship, etc., often involving a code of ethics. Agree or not agree with this definition?

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1 Corinthians 13:9_12 "For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face: now I know in part, but then shall I know even as also I am known."

1 Thesalonians 5:21 "Prove all things, hold fast that which is good."

There, honesty and good advice.
---Nana on 7/2/14


\/I have studied Paul upside down and sideways and he doesn't measure up to the standard of Truth, the words of Jesus Christ.\-barb on 7/1/14 \\

No wonder you don't get him!

Have you tried studying St. Paul right side up and frontways?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/1/14


Now that's funny..".

Paul, who was so astute concerning the LAW, he actually murdered Christians based on the LAW. paul,was carried to the third heaven and shown things, like John was above and beyond what Jesus taught in 3 years. So Jesus never taught revelation to any while on earth. Yet showed John things to come!

So Barb, do you deny the truths of revelation too?
---kathr4453 on 7/1/14


\/I have studied Paul upside down and sideways and he doesn't measure up to the standard of Truth, the words of Jesus Christ.\-barb on 7/1/14 \\

No wonder you don't get him!

Have you tried studying St. Paul right side up and frontways?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/1/14


/I have studied Paul upside down and sideways and he doesn't measure up to the standard of Truth, the words of Jesus Christ.\-barb on 7/1/14
2 Peter 3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
-Some people confuse the standard of Truth with what they think the standard is.
-Maybe Paul's speck should be left for someone that has had their beam pulled out first.
Rom 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
---micha9344 on 7/1/14


Barb I understand. The difficulty is what people use the words to mean instead of following the meaning of the words.

The law is our schoolmaster to bring us to JESUS. The law tells us we are sinners because we break the law.

We agree.

Now when we come to JESUS we do not need to keep being told we are sinners we know it. Just like when a Teacher helps us to read. When we are no longer under the teacher. Are we supposed to forget how to read? NO.

Yet many take that to mean exactly that we can forget reading because we are out of school.

Our relationship to the law is different but what was sin before is still a sin.

We do not keep the law to be saved. We keep the law because we are saved.
Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 7/1/14




Kathr, you are looking at John 17 thru the eyes of Paul, ----

---barb on 6/30/14

No Barb, I see John 17 through the eyes of Jesus who has revealed His word to us, who is also made unto us wisdom and knowledge.

Paul like all the others including the author of Hebrews see all through the WORD OF GOD!
---kathr4453 on 7/1/14


Samuelbb7, Thankyou for your kindness. Yes, I have noticed and am glad to see that you and a few others support God's law.

I hear what you are saying to me about Paul but he kinda talks out of both sides of his mouth. He says keep the law in one place and then he says it has passed away in another. Paul says the law was a schoolmaster and when faith comes one is no longer under a schoolmaster..if the schoolmaster is the law and one is no longer under it then he why does he say in another place, God forbid, may it never be, keep the law and on and on I could go.

I have studied Paul upside down and sideways and he doesn't measure up to the standard of Truth, the words of Jesus Christ.
---barb on 7/1/14


\\Cluny,

That is because they ignored some stuff Jesus said.
Like "My words, they are spirit and they are life". Jesus said this very thing.\\

But Jesus never said, "Eat my spirit and life," now did He?

He said, "Eat My flesh and drink My blood, or you have no life in you."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/1/14


Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Here we have "our example" ...father Abraham, who lived 400 years before the law of Moses was even given. Read Romans 4 to understand....

So what laws and commandments is Genesis 26 even talking about? Certainly not the law given to Moses. IF the law of Moses was already established and implemented, why is it called the law of Moses. So then What laws and commandments is Jesus talking about? Does He specifically say the law of Moses?
Obviously there are laws and commandments even outside the law of Moses before the law of Moses, as was before the flood. Even now we live by the Law of Liberty.
---kathr4453 on 7/1/14


#2John 1: 17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

So we see, from John 1:1-16 a totally NEW way of becoming a son of God. And certainly not by the law of Moses.

Those born of God through Jesus Christ, NOT BY THE WILL OF MAN.
And these verses in no way say one can be born of God by keeping the law of Moses. ....

One must be saved BY GRACE THROUGH FAITH.

If Jesus came to establish the Law of Moses, the woman taken in adultery would have been stoned without question by Jesus own stone.
---kathr453 on 7/1/14




Dear barb,
It was you who said that Jesus taught the law. I gave you the reason why He didn't. He knew no one could keep the whole law. He said,
keep my commandments, and He was speaking of the two commandments He had given. To love God and to love thy neighbor. If those two qualities are in a believer, and they are, then they fulfill the commandments He gave. No one can keep the whole law. The reason He came to die in our place. God the Father demanded a payment for our sins, a payment that only Jesus could pay. If you do not get that, then in order for you to get it, you have to have faith in the Word of God, Scripture. The law saves no one, Jesus saves individuals. Agape
---Luke on 6/30/14


Dear Barb you make some good points. But you do not have to throw out the Part of the Bible written by Paul. Just because some take and some of his words and ignore others.

You know or might know that I support that GOD still has a law here. But Paul also taught that GOD still has his law.

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Those who teach the law is gone have to take this word of GOD written by Paul and ignore it, to throw out the law of GOD.

The answer to your last question is no. A person cannot live with GOD if they do not obey His word.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/30/14


Kathr, you are looking at John 17 thru the eyes of Paul, evidenced by your quoting of him and the unknown writer of Hebrews who was most likely a follower of Paul's.

I wish that you would (but you probably won't) read John 17 thru the eyewitness sight of the one who wrote it. Did Jesus pray that His disciples would be sanctified thru His death and by His blood or did He pray that they would be sanctified by the Truth? John 17:17. Whose Word is Truth? Can a person become one with God and Jesus if they do not believe and live in His Word? (John 17:6-16.)
---barb on 6/30/14


Luke, you say Jesus taught the law because He knew no one could keep it. Does that make sense? And you call me clueless?

Jesus died to pay the death penalty for His Kingdom. He purchased them with His blood. Rev. 4:9-10. Jesus' blood can only benefit those who are born into His Kingdom. John 3:3-8, Rev 12:17.

There are two kingdoms on earth, the Kingdom of Heaven and the Kingdom of the World.
We are born into the Kingdom of the World, not by choice but by the act of our parents. We are given birth into the Kingdom of Heaven by the Holy Spirit, John 3:3-8, Rev. 12:17. We make the choice to stay in the world or to be in the world but NOT of the world. John 17:9-17.

---barb on 6/30/14


To reject Paul is rejecting Christ. Paul is not the Christ, but Christ sent Paul.
The Lord describes Paul as his chosen vessel to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel (Acts 9:15).
Paul was a minister of the Lord in preaching the dispensation of the grace of God and to reveal the mystery of Christ and his church (Eph 3:1-2, Col 1:25-27).
Christ sent Paul to speak for him. When they heard Paul, they were hearing Gods words. 1 Thess 2:13
Those who were spiritual and prophetically knew Gods purpose understood that Paul spoke the commandments of the Lord. 1 Cor 14:37
These commandments were given to him directly from the Lord Jesus. Gal 1:12
---michael_e on 6/30/14


barb,
you are totally unaware why Jesus died on the cross. You have no clue. I will tell you. All descendants of Adam are under the curse God put on mankind. All have broken the laws of God. No one can keep the law, if they break one, they have broken them all. So to your answer, why would Jesus teach the law when He came? He knew no one could keep it. He is the only One who could keep the law perfect for us believers, so He died in our place. For us who could not keep the law perfect. You talk about Jesus, but because you do not believe in Scripture, you don't know why He came to die for you.
---Luke on 6/30/14


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Barb, I believe the Gospel "according to the Mystery" , which Paul completely explains, was not revealed until AFTER Jesus rose from the dead. Scripture clearly states this. I believe it and can testify to this, the Mystery kept secret but now revealed is CHRIST IN YOU.
How Christ comes to be IN YOU, is through identification with Him in death and resurrection life...crucified with Christ raised up a new creature IN CHRIST. This was not revealed to John the Baptist or any of them until AFTER HE ROSE. Now that He is risen Barb, and "this mystery revealed", the problem is you Barb reject this truth! I don't.

If you look carefully Jesus did reveal this in his prayer in John 17....before going to the cross.
---kathr4453 on 6/30/14


John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them, that they may be one, even as we are one: ( Ephesians...the HOPE OF GLORY EXPLAINED MORE COMPLETELY, being made ONE, again explained in Ephesians. God never promised to "share his Glory with earthly Israel! ONLY that they would SEE IT.

23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

No one was/is made PERFECT UNDER LAW..Hebrews 10 explains this thoroughly. Our perfection comes only by being IN CHRIST, THE PERFECT ONE. Hebrews 13:20-21 and Romans 8:11-13 will explain.
---kathr453 on 6/30/14


Hi all :) I am online friend with a man in Nigeria who has survived war and now runs a home for 18 orphaned children! :) Now THAT is true religion, he will be greatly rewarded in Heaven, I'm sure. :)
---Mary on 6/29/14

Mary, if this man is truly doing this then it is a good thing, but Nigeria is home to many scam artists. Is he asking you for money?

Im not saying all nigerians are scam artists, but be very very careful.
---NurseRobert on 6/30/14


Haz27, Mary: As a Nigerian i can tell you that if the orphanage has a bank account in the exact name of the orphanage, then it is a genuine orphanage (registered with our CorporateAffairCommission, and well known to the bank). But if it doesn't, verify more.
---Adetunji on 6/30/14


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Barb,

Got a question...

Why would you not believe Paul even though the apostles that you do believe (James and Peter) supported and believed him?
It is seems strange to me that Peter, the first one called by Jesus, supported Paul in his ministry but you who did not even see Jesus, believe what Peter wrote but but not anything that Paul wrote.
Everything that Paul wrote about lines up with what Christ taught, Peter backs it up in his writings, so does James, yet you believe Paul a false apostle? Strange, very very strange.

Kathr, as usual, great teaching!
---g on 6/30/14


"Hi all :) I am online friend with a man in Nigeria who has survived war and now runs a home for 18 orphaned children!"---Mary

Hi Mary. It's good what your friend in Nigeria is doing, if it's true.

But in this modern age of scams have you verified his story? How well do you know this man? These days people make up all types of stories to get money out of others.

Just something to consider if you hadn't done so already.
---Haz27 on 6/29/14


Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

James 1:27
---NurseRobert on 6/29/14


Kathr, the difference between John the Baptist and Judas is that Judas took matters into his own hands, betrayed Jesus and caused His capture. John, who was in prison sent his disciples to ask Jesus a question "Are you he that should come or do we look for another?" Jesus never condemned anyone for asking a question and He later proclaimed John to be the greatest prophet born of a woman.

Did you read Dan 9:24? Did God tell Daniel that His people had 70 weeks (490 years) to bring in everlasting righteousness or did He tell them to submit to His righteousness?
---barb on 6/29/14


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Romans
10 :1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Barbara, I totally disagree, based on Romans 10 as well as many other places. Judas represents those who believed Jesus was suppose to be King right then. John the Baptist was no Judas.
---kathr4453 on 6/29/14


Kathr4453, Israel was not apostate because they kept God's commandments but because they rejected their Messiah. Jesus never told them not to keep the commandments. In fact, He corrects and tries to teach them in Matthew 15:1-9.

John the Baptist even had doubts. Matt 11:1-6. Why? Because Jesus did not come as the King they were expecting because they had not completed the work that God had given them to do in Dan 9:24. The time of Daniel's people was up and Jesus came to His Kingdom as a Prophet and a teacher and that was not what they wanted.
---barb on 6/29/14


Hi all :) I am online friend with a man in Nigeria who has survived war and now runs a home for 18 orphaned children! :) Now THAT is true religion, he will be greatly rewarded in Heaven, I'm sure. :)
---Mary on 6/29/14


Barb, Many KNEW JESUS WAS GOD, before He did miracles and also knew prophesy and quoted it as John the Baptist did before Jesus said one parable re: behold the lamb of God which takes away the sin of the world,pointing to Jesus death and resurrection, prophesied in the OT. Abraham sacrificing Isaac also pointed to Jesus death and resurrection. You may want to read Hebrews NOT written by Paul, but certainly one who understood how the OT was fulfilled in the NT. Especially read Hebrews 13:20-21. specially Hebrews 11.....not once even mentions law keeping.

There have always been true believers who understood Jesus came to die for our sin. It was apostate Israel who rejected this truth and wanted to live under law, to this day.
---kathr4453 on 6/29/14


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Kathr4453, Jesus had not yet told the parables, the prophecies or testified to the Truth that God gave Him. Neither had He performed the miracles and wonders such as raising the dead. He came to testify to the Truth that He received from the mouth of God (John 17:8, John 14:24, John 18:37) and He said that anyone who was of the Truth would hear His voice.
---barb on 6/28/14


Cluny,

That is because they ignored some stuff Jesus said.
Like "My words, they are spirit and they are life". Jesus said this very thing.

That tends to happen when people ignore the whole of scripture and only pick and choose like the early church did. Like the fact they are modeled after the old testament and not the new. If they were modeled after the new, then they would not put on robes and glorify the outside like they have done for centuries. Just saying. Jesus said plainly that it is the inside of the cup that needs to be clean, not necessarily the outside. The old church puts too much emphasis on the outside like robes and adornment. Jesus clearly condemned the Pharisees and Seducees for such things.
---g on 6/28/14


\\Eating and drinking His words\\

Eating words is usually an expression of regret.

Funny, but NOBODY in the early centuries ever interpreted John 6 as meaning "eat the words of Jesus."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/14


Some don't know that out of all the writers of scripture, Paul glories more in Christ than them all (Gal 6:14)? This is because he knew more about Christ than them all, not because of his intelligence but because of the information revealed to him by the Lord (Gal 1:11-12, Rom 16:25).
It was his privilege to fulfill the word of God with a message that no one before him knew (Col 1:25-26).
Jesus made Paul the apostle and the pattern of salvation to us that hereafter believe (1 Tim 1:16).
Paul doesn't elevate himself above Jesus Christ when he bows to him and calls him preeminent (Eph 3:14, Col 1:18).
Following Pauls pattern and instructions requires glorifying God by Jesus Christ (Rom 16:27, Phil 2:11).
---michael_e on 6/28/14


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---barb on 6/28/14

What words hadn't Jesus spoken yet? The WORD WAS MADE FLESH.

Jesus did speak to Paul, or is this part of scripture you just say is a lie? Barb, since your not a Jew, what makes you think anything in the 4 Gospels is talking to you? And if you presume it does, are you saying you a gentile are in submission to Jews? You live vicariously as a Jew before the cross, not as a new creature after his resurrection.

Praise God, Paul being a Jew, taught Gentiles as yourself are not in submission to Jews, and their 600+ laws. And praise God the cross set me free from such a burdensome yoke. You will never find REST in the law! only the risen Christ. Hebrews 3-4.
---kathr4453 on 6/28/14


Kathr4453, I don't look at Jesus thru the eyes of Paul. I look at Him thru the eyes of His chosen eyewitness disciples, the ones who were there and followed Him and learned from Him first hand. John 15:27, John 17:20.

When Jesus teaches eating His flesh and blood. He is talking about His Words which are spiritual food and drink. John 6:63, John 14:23-24, John 17:17. Eating and drinking His words was not a requirement under the Law because Jesus hadn't spoken them yet. And that's why those born of the woman in Rev 12:17 keep the commandents of God AND have the testimony of Jesus.
---barb on 6/28/14


True Religion results in doing. Not just saying---Samuel

Samuel in reference to what you said above, you quoted Mat 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven

What is God's will?
John 6:40 this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life

Legalists reject God's will. They say "Lord, Lord", but in preaching righteousness by works of the law they deny Him, Tit 1:16.
The law is NOT OF FAITH, Gal 3:12.
---Haz27 on 6/28/14


Micha, what about Jer 31:33? "But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those day says the Lord, I will put my Law within their most inward parts, and write it in their hearts and will be their God and they shall be my people". God's law/commandments which at one time He wrote in stone, will now be written in the minds and hearts of those who promise to keep it. It is the same covenant, written in a new place.
---barb on 6/28/14


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There is no true religion since it's man made. However there is only 1 way to God, through Jesus his son only. No denomination can save you, Jesus can. Being a Chrisitan is part of our life, not a religion.
---Candice on 6/27/14


Barb, Micha posted a great verse. And with that promise of the new covenant Paul tells us in Philippians 3 what life is now under this new covenant. Also 2 Corinthians 3 tells us about the New Covenant. The NEW Covenant is in His BLOOD.
The Spirit, the Blood and the Word are one...and testify of one another.

Jesus also said the flesh profits nothing. Jesus also said those who eat My Flesh and drink My Blood He will raise up and have eternal life. Please show under law that that was a requirement under law?
---kathr4453 on 6/27/14


/The ten commandments have always been and always will be the marriage contract/covenant between God and His Kingdom.\-barb on 6/26/14
Jeremiah 31:31-32 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
---micha9344 on 6/27/14


Kathr, where does Jesus teach about the separation of flesh and spirit? "Thou shall love the Lord thy God with all thy heart (flesh) and with all thy soul (spirit), and with all thy mind (flesh)".

"And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and cast if from you, for it is better for you that one of your members should perish, than that your whole body should be cast into hell." Matt 5:30.
---barb on 6/27/14


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Luke, of course, I knew you would disagree with me. The young man asked "what good thing must I do that I might have eternal life?" Jesus' answer was simple and to the point "if you will enter into life, keep the commandments". And then Jesus listed the last 6 but left out the 1st four.

Jesus tells the young man that to be perfect/complete he should sell everything and follow Him. I guess the young fellow didn't really keep all the commandments because he did not love God with all His heart, soul and mind or he would have done what was asked. And right there is your first 4 commandments because if you keep the 1st you cannot help but keep the next three and if you love God, you will follow Him.
---barb on 6/27/14


In Matthew 5 & 6 JESUS taught about that we are to keep the Commandments.


Matthew5:22

But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.


Mat 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven, but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

True Religion results in doing. Not just saying.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/27/14


Jesus never said that the commandments were impossible to keep. Those were the words of Paul.
---barb on 6/26/14

Barb, please don't misquote Paul. The LAW is impossible to keep in the flesh, as was the only way those in the OT could do, failing miserably as God knew they would. But when we walk in the Spirit as Paul teaches, and James also clarifies, we walk in a much higher law, that surpasses the law of Moses.

Luke is correct, Jesus NEVER taught keeping the law of Moses saved anyone. Jesus Christ alone through his death and resurrection saves. It was the LAW that put Jesus on the cross....dying in our place because no one can perfectly keep the law thereby saving oneself.
---kathr4453 on 6/27/14


barb,
I disagree with your interpretation of Matthew 19. Jesus was not teaching the law. What He did was to show how hard it is to have eternal life. The rich man said he kept the commandments Jesus mentioned, that was not a good enough answer for Jesus. He only gave his 6 commandments but he could not keep the commandment God asked him. He could not sell everything, give to the poor and follow Christ. It was a call to faith. His own love for money was more important then to follow Christ. He had no faith in Christ. The rich man rejected Jesus claim to lordship over his life.
Jesus never said, "just accept me" or did He say, " sign a paper" In fact Jesus made it hard for him to have eternal life. Agape
---Luke on 6/27/14


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Luke, from your lips to God's ears. "Jesus did not teach the law." What is He teaching in Matt 19? He is teaching the law and giving His testimony when He tells the young man the way to eternal life is to keep the commandments and follow Him. He kept the Law as an example for us to follow because there is no other Way for a human being to enter into His Kingdom. The ten commandments have always been and always will be the marriage contract/covenant between God and His Kingdom. Rev 11:14-19, Rev 12:17.

Jesus never said that the commandments were impossible to keep. Those were the words of Paul.
---barb on 6/26/14


Jesus did not teach the law, for Jesus knew no one could keep the law and be saved. What Jesus taught in Matthew 5:17-20 was that the law was very much to be obeyed, but nowhere did He teach that keeping the law saved anyone. He also taught anyone who is saved already, should never teach anyone to break the law. If they did, they would be (least in the kingdom of heaven). Since they already belong to the kingdom of heaven. And those who teaches to obey the law, is called great in the kingdom of heaven.
As believers already, we should never teach others to break the law. Yet, Jesus never taught there was salvation through works of the law. Agape
---Luke on 6/26/14


there are many religious people but they are not saved. I mean they are good people but if you aren't born into the family of God, they are not saved. Ive heard people say I am spiritual but not religious. Ive never understood what that meant.
---shira4368 on 6/25/14


Good point Michael e.

Romans 6,7, & 8 deal with how we are not supposed to try to save ourselves by the law. But we are also not do live in sin. We are to hate sin. We are to do good works.


Act 9:36

Now there was at Joppa a certain disciple named Tabitha, which by interpretation is called Dorcas: this woman was full of good works and alms deeds which she did.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/25/14


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//Try again?//
The 4 "gospels" are written about The earthly ministry of Christ addressed to the nation of Israel.
There is no doubt the works of the law were required for Israel to obey. If they disobeyed they would not receive the blessing or righteousness of God (Deut 6:24-25).
Jesus in his ministry to Israel taught obedience to the law (Matt 5:17-19).
Even after the death and resurrection of their King, the twelve were taught to continue in obedience to the covenants (James 2:24, 1 John 2:3).
Acts 20:21, James is zealous of the law.
Yet, we know that works cannot save a man from sin (Rom 3:20).
---michael_e on 6/24/14


So true Cluny the entire New Testament was written in the period of Grace.

But humans have always been saved by Grace. No one can save themselves by works.

But the New Covenant was established by the death of JESUS CHRIST to save us and lead us to JESUS.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/24/14


** //Are you saying that Jesus and James are legalists?//
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and James were written under Law which is legalism.
---michael_e on 6/24/14
**

Wrong, michael_e.

These books were written AFTER the Resurrection, Ascension, and Pentecost, which means they were written under GRACE.

Even John says, "The law was given by Moses, but grace and truth by our Lord Jesus Christ."

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/24/14


//Are you saying that Jesus and James are legalists?//
Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and James were written under Law which is legalism.
---michael_e on 6/24/14


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"Correct, both under law(legalism)"
---michael_e on 6/23/14

Are you saying that Jesus and James are legalists?
---Nana on 6/23/14


//It still is and so is Christianism//
Thanks for the correction on Judaism, as for christianism, I never heard that one.
//The message of James 1:26 is the same even as, Matthew 5:37//
Correct, both under law(legalism)
---michael_e on 6/23/14


"Judaism was a religion"
michael_e on 6/21/14

It still is and so is Christianism, no?
The message of James 1:26 is the same even as, Matthew 5:37 "But let your communication be, Yea, yea, Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
Proverbs 10:19 "In the multitude of words there wanteth not sin: but he that refraineth his lips is wise."

That message is as valid today as it was then and is sound and applicable to whomever would hear and heed the advice.
Wisdom: Matthew 7:24 "Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:..."
---Nana on 6/23/14


James 1:26 "If any man among you seem to be religious, ( thats legalism. Judaism was a religion) and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this mans religion is vain." Most, even Jews, religions were vain, because they were guilty of these things.
Paul says.
Gal 1:13 "For ye have heard of my conysversation in times past in the Jews religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it:" Paul was religious but had no qualms about murdering people. Religion is what man can do
What keeps believers on the straight and narrow? The Holy Spirit. Thats almost absent in the James. its the Spirit, that controls us in this Age of Grace as Paul tells us, not the Law.
---michael_e on 6/21/14


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James 1 v 27. Pure religion is format associated with Acts 2 v 38 salvation.
Not spotted by the corrupt worldly pleasures.
Christian Is being Christ like. Jesus also the Apostles, others that were saved. They didn't go around smoking drinking cursing fornicating other etc like the trinity people in Rev. 17 vs 4 5 6 does.
---Lawrence on 6/20/14


Amen great point Trey. But it also involves our relationship with GOD.


1Jo 2:2-5

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/30/14


Steveng is correct! The definition of true religion is found in James 1:27.

True and pure religion is acting in a godly manner towards others and keeping ourselves and our minds unspotted from the sins of this world.
---trey on 5/29/14


Heb 12:28 "let us offer to God acceptable worship".

Jer 14:10 "now he will remember their iniquity and punish their sins."

Jer 14:12
Though they fast, I will not hear their cry, and though they offer burnt offering and cereal offering, I will not accept them"

Offering God "ACCEPTABLE" worship must be the goal of every TRUE worshiper.

Jesus told His Father that that ALL who were given to Him have been kept safe and have been safeguarded...AND NONE IS LOST (except for the son of perdition).....we've been taught 2000 years of perditious/destructive teachings and are the result/outcome ("son of") perdition.

All verses are from the RSV (version closest to Greek).
---faithforfaith on 5/28/14


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Religion always has little glitches in it. If you don't do this right or you don't that right that is why Goda has not moved in your life. Do this and maybe he will or will not you know he's sovereign? That is religion. God's word is what does everything how you sow it is how it will produce in your life Jesus said I'm here for you
---Bryan on 4/19/14


Hello, Bro.Samuelbb, so gratefull, for your feed back, agree100%
amen! Continue to be blessed, both you and your family.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 4/17/14


Dear Steven and Eleena

Thank you for helping to remind people that pure religion is not just saying a bunch of words or going to a building or any other things but loving and caring for others.

GOD Bless.
---Samuellby on 4/16/14


Hello, Good see you Shira4368, all who have not seen long time,love & peace be yours.family,Jm.1:27Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and
faultless is this:to look after orphans
and widows in their distress and to keep one self from being polluted by
the world.
The word religion holds as lot of responsibility.People know you by your fruits, if you are loving to your neighbors even through trials and tribulations, it speaks louder than any word you can preach to them.
This is a huge area to. discuss and study, all glory goes to Jesus Christ.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 4/14/14


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There is one true religion for it is written:

"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." James 1:27
---Steveng on 4/14/14


there are many religions there is only one salvation.
---shira4368 on 4/14/14


There is no true religion. There is the Gospel that Jesus gave to us to share. That is the truth. People's religion did not save you. When somebody shared the Gospel with you that is when you came to know Jesus. It's the Gospel religion try to high jack. To make fit their system. The Gospel sets you free not religions don't like that.
---Bryan on 4/14/14


Whatever you worship in action and in deed and how you systematize your life is your religion.

It does not have to be supernatural. It does not have to be formal.

Truth is given...true religion can only be determined by that Truth.
---aka on 4/14/14


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Lee I agree with your statement but I am going to add the reason behind religion whether it be to the, Roman/Greek, Norse, Egyptian gods or the baals in the OT. In religion, except christianity, you do not love the god/gods that you worship but you worship them such that the higher/powerful spiritual being will fight/prosper you in your activities. Worship is thus a bargining chip between you and the spiritual being. For example, every field in Israel had a statue of a baal thus you would give an offering such that you would have a good harvest. Micah 6, 6-8: But Christianity God just wants you and your love. Also Deut. 6,6
---Scott1 on 4/14/14


"Great answer Josef!" Thank you Jerry, Elee, I appreciate the acknowledgement, and confirmation given to the post I shared, and I know we all agree and will quickly acknowledge, that all praise is due the Father. Any truth I am privileged to share is of Him, only the mistakes are mine.
---Josef on 4/12/14


Great and the Biblical answer given by Josef. But while this does reflect one aspect of ethics, true religion is one that does reflect the moral relationships we have with others.

And yes I can only agree that we need to have a ministry to the needy people. Fortunately my church has a homeless ministry and today we brought them clothing and food as well as testaments.
---elee7537 on 4/12/14


WORDS are VERY important because they are what we use to express every thought in our lives and our own understanding. The word "faith" actually refers to [and MEANS] 'LIFESTYLE BELIEFS', attitudes, character/behavior.

In scripture, THE SAVIOR told someone that THEIR "faith" had saved them, Jesus did not say "LET MY BLOOD SAVE YOU" (He did NOT tell them that HE should be relied on for their salvation). ...

that person's lifestyle habits/attitudes, etc. had already saved them.
---faithforfaith on 4/12/14


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Christians say, "I give tithes to the church and pay taxes to the government, let them help the poor."

Christians do not take personal responsibility to help others. They simply do not know HOW to love anymore. In fact, love has practically evaporated from the face of today's world.

How does one expect to truly grow in God's love when one does not personally get involved? What ever happened to personal accountability?

So, what is true religion? Do an online KJV bible search for the words "one another," "each other," "comfort," " encourag," and "love." Christianity is a lifestyle.
---Steveng on 4/12/14


Hi Lee, Where have you been for so long?


Great answer Josef!




---jerry6593 on 4/12/14


"Agree or not agree with this definition?"
"Religion," as a tangible system of worship, I agree.
"What is TRUE religion?" Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. James 1:27 (NLT)
I was hungry, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: Naked, and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came unto me. Come, [you are] blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. Mat 25:34-46
---Josef on 4/12/14


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