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Do you have any specific way of reading/studying your bible? I have just started it from the beginning (as I have done several times before) but have also used many reading schemes over many years. This time I am reading on my computer monitor as it is much better because of my vision problems.

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predestination is in the bible because God put it there. In context, it means God predestined all people before the foundation of the world. For God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son. that means "ALL"
God made a way for what He had already fore ordained.
---shira4368 on 6/6/14


//Do you not teach hell is eternal suffering and torment for all those GOD hates and wants there?//

Dear Samuel,
Why would you ask such a hateful question? When did I say God hated anyone? Just because He doesn't save the rest, does not mean He hates them. You are suggesting that those who sin against God, murder others, deserve salvation? That's what you are saying, that God is not fair. That we deserved salvation, and that God hated the rest. Don't you understand none of us deserve salvation? No one does. That He saves anyone is the miracle. He could have decided to save none. You should be so happy He saved you. I know I am, that He saved me. Why can you not get it? If you are saved, why is it so hard for you to understand? Agape
---Luke on 6/6/14


Samuel - Foreordained millions to suffer

The word Predestined is in the Bible Four Times , Romans 8:29 -8:30 - Ephesians 1:5 - 1:11 - What do you Do ! pretend the Word is not in the Bible , Subtract it ?

Torture Children

Let's take another example - Hypothetical - You have a neighbor - and he's a overall nice guy, Does not do really any thing wrong in the eyes of the World , But he is Agnostic or Atheists - Has no Faith , There's Tons of these type of people out there !
---RICHARDC on 6/5/14


//That is a main part of Predestination.//

Dear Samuel,
No, that is not the main part of predestination. The main part of predestination is that God is God, and He has the right to save whomever He wants to save. You don't like God having that right. It doesn't agree with you, so you fight against the will of God. If God wanted to love some with an everlasting love, why is it wrong? God chose Adam over others, Moses over others, Israel over others, why is He restricted with the rest? His under no obligation. You suggest it is not fair to those sinners who sin against God. That they deserve to be saved also. Why? When they hate Christ, and murder children. Why do they deserve redemption? They deserve justice, just like we did. Agape
---Luke on 6/5/14


Phi 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.

The other side:
Phi 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Wonderful verses that NOW belong to the saved..... BUT before salvation, God is not working "in" anyone to will and to do, because God cannot BE IN ANYONE still a sinner. This is why God sent his only begotten Son to open the way for man to again have fellowship with God because for God to be IN YOU, CHRIST has to be IN YOU. The gospel according to the mystery, "Christ in you"(Colossians 1:24-27) Romans 16:25-27 is for the "Obedience of faith" to all nations Jesus prayer explains in John 17:20 to the very end of John 17.
---kathr4453 on 6/5/14




kathr4453, micha9344 and michael_e

Thank you for your great points presented here.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/5/14


Yes Luke Salvation is impossible for us to acquire. I have never said it is not.

You are correct that I do not believe that JESUS hates and wants to torture children that is a doctrine that you preach.

That GOD foreordained millions to suffer in hell for all eternity with no mercy because GOD wants to torture them. That is a main part of Predestination.
Total Depravity, Unconditional election, Limited Atonement, Irrestible Grace and Perservence of the chosen Saints.

Do you not teach hell is eternal suffering and torment for all those GOD hates and wants there?
---Samuelbb7 on 6/4/14


The words communicate their natural meanings
Compare verse with verse to get the meaning of a passage Let the Bible interpret itself
Who wrote the passage
Why was the passage written
To whom was the passage written
Rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Tim 2:15) Prophecy and Mystery
Read the Bible and know that it means exactly what it says.
Compare verse with verse in order to understand it.
Rightly divide, that is, to recognize the things in scripture that God has done in different times and places and always remember the distinctions of the prophetic program (God's dealings with the nation of Israel) and the Mystery program (God's dealings with the Body of Christ).
---michael_e on 6/4/14


Balanced is the key.
None of us can deny the Truth in God's Word.
Some may need to hear one side to bring them back from an edge, others may need to hear the other side.
God knows and is at work.
And we do need to respond.
Concerning fellow citizens, God knew if a person would become a son and when. I consider that predestination.
A person, on the other hand, only sees current status of how it came to be, but can look back and see God's guiding hand in it all.
One side:
Phi 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.
John 15:5
The other side:
Phi 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
---micha9344 on 6/4/14


I just posted verses.
One can argue against the verses, or one can argue against what one thought I meant by posting those verses.
Whether you argue against scripture or against your thoughts, it seems rather meaningless.

---micha9344 on 6/4/14

When one only posts selected verses it's only half the truth. I have respect for those who are balanced in their posting of Scripture. Too often these exact verses are posted by those who argue against whosoever will. So we'll see in the future if you include John 17:20. Certainly you aren't arguing against John 17:20???


Agape!
---kathr4453 on 6/4/14




Ephesians 2:19-21

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God,

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone,

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

Do you get it now Luke and Micha.
---kathr4453 on 6/4/14


//So ya'll believe that JESUS hates some children and want to torture them in hell for all eternity?//

Dear Samuel,
you first give some passages and then say what you did, I really do not know why you say such things. where did you read that Jesus hated some children? And where did you read that Jesus hated them so He could torture them in hell? Then, you even say, for all eternity, and you, as an SDA, do not even believe people will be in hell for eternity. You just do not believe the Bible and what it says. It is pretty clear but you will not accept the truth. Did Jesus not say that salvation was impossible for men to acquire? How many times does He have to say it for you to believe it? Agape
---Luke on 6/4/14


I just posted verses.
One can argue against the verses, or one can argue against what one thought I meant by posting those verses.
Whether you argue against scripture or against your thoughts, it seems rather meaningless.
---micha9344 on 6/4/14


John 17:20-26
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word.

Micha, you forgot a very important verse


all the verses you posted were in the Gospels where Jesus is talking to His 12 Disciples who YES Hi did choose our of Israel, those who were already God's CHOSEN. These were those who were faithful IN ISRAEL. Interesting you don't see any Gentiles "chosen" to be His Apostles. So we see the foundational truths were built upon the Apostles and Prophets of Israel.

Now to verse 20, "but for them also which shall believe on me through "their" word,",

Who is THEIR? the Apostles and prophets of course.
---kathr4453 on 6/3/14


Mat 16:24

Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

Mar 8:34

And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

So ya'll believe that JESUS hates some children and want to torture them in hell for all eternity?
---Samuelbb7 on 6/3/14


John 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you...
15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
17:9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine.
Luke 10:22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father, and who the Father is, but the Son, and [he] to whom the Son will reveal [him].
John 6:37 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me, and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
10:14 I am the good shepherd, and know my [sheep], and am known of mine.
---micha9344 on 6/3/14


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Luke, I absolutely agree with these verses. Notice "IN HIM", "IN CHRIST" etc. And having predestined us to the adoption of Sons is totally awesome indeed. The Church, His Body the NEW CREATURE that NEW MAN comes into being by being Crucified with Christ and raised up a NEW CREATURE. To be "Holy" and Blameless before Him IN Love, is totally awesome, also only made possible by being Crucified with Christ, where our old man is dead to sin making our being made HOLY and blameless possible as well.
---kathr4453 on 6/3/14


Dear Kathr,
It is pretty simple from my view and it does not have to be made complicated.
"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, "just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world," that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love," Eph. 1:3,4.
Now that is pretty clear that God chose us in Him before the foundation of the world. How hard is that to read? Pretty simple. And what was that He did? (v5) "Having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will," Paul speaking to the saints in Ephesus.
---Luke on 6/3/14


RICHARDC, I have no doubt God has foreknowledge of all things. The problem with how most read scripture in the NT is a sort of Me Myself and I mentality...Me, Me, I can't believe God picked ME, as I have heard Calvinists say over and over. But the answer is He PICKED JESUS CHRIST ONLY, period.....

Now all those IN CHRIST who Come to Christ are chosen IN HIM. So many have no clue what IN HIM even means. You weren't Chosen IN HIM before you were born. We are Chosen IN HIM because now being saved we are IN HIM. HE is the CHOSEN ONE. He was foreordained. you were NOTHING before you came to Christ. Gentiles were separated from the covenants of Promise....remember. You are now brought near by the BLOOD of Jesus Christ....
---kathr4453 on 6/2/14


It's the body of Christ ONLY being conformed to His Image,Conformed to His death by being CRUCIFIED with Christ. OT saints were saved through faith looked forward to the Cross, yet never experienced the Power of The Cross. OT saints were not predestined to be conformed to His Death. "That I may KNOW HIM and the fellowship of His sufferings and the POWER of His resurrection, being made conformable to His Death, CHRIST IN YOU" the Mystery kept secret until Jesus Christ rose from the dead, and was not even known in the OT or even preached in the OT. The sanctifying BODY of Jesus Christ was not yet available, nor His blood that totally cleansed from all sin once and for all, making it possible to be raised up with Christ NOW as we speak.
---kathr4453 on 6/2/14


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Kathr - God predestined those who receive Jesus Christ - Has nothing to do individually selected to salvation -

To me what you have here is a contradiction , On one hand God is predestining some to election, These people are Going to Receive Christ, This being and Act of God, God conforming - Then the last statement - yet it has nothing to do with selection , Your follow up statement is it has to do with the church, - I would say the Church are the people, God Elected people - Church are The People - that were Predestined

Now some people have God foreknowing - As God look down the Corridor of time and that's how God predestined - But that"s Man getting himself saved, by his Good Work's ,

---RICHARDC on 6/2/14


Right division bible study only means to understand what parts of the bible is written to what age Past Present Future (Time Past, written to Israel, Prophecy, Kingdom of God program) (But Now, Present time, Written to all alive today, Age of Grace) (Future, Age To Come, Written to Israel, Prophesy)
All the bible was written for us to learn of God. Today we get our doctrine from the books of Romans Philemon written by the apostle sent to us by Jesus Christ the Apostle Paul.
---michael_e on 6/2/14


Those who do not understand the CHURCH and that it is not the New Israel or replaced Israel, but the very BODY of Christ, a totally NEW MAN, are in this dispensation called the Elect. Those who are the Elect CHURCH, as Paul and John write to the ELECT CHURCH as a whole, not individuals, know that it was the CHURCH that was predestined, not individuals. All who receive Jesus Christ become members of the ELECT CHURCH, His Body. We are not individually little gods as the distorted version seems to imply. Our Life is the very Life of the Risen Christ in us.
---kathr4453 on 6/2/14


Yes, god has predestined those who receive Jesus Christ to be conformed to His image. So friends, when you receive Jesus Christ, don't be surprised when you fall into various trials and tribulations. This is HOW God is conforming you to The image of Jesus Christ. YOU are being made conformable to His death, as Paul tells you in Philippians 3.

But this doctrine has nothing whatsoever to do with being individually selected to salvation.
---kathr4453 on 6/2/14


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Hi again Rita,
I believe a good habit to do with the Bible is to carry a small one with you where ever you go and read it every time you have time. And if you run into a problem passage, wait till you get home and look up the words on a lexicon to find the real meaning of those words you had trouble with. Another good way to read the Bible is to study the Bible with a few others. This way you can make suggestions to the others on what the passage is really saying. If you are wrong, others can correct you. We use to go sentence per sentence. And read the passages again and again in case we have missed something so simple. That is always possible. Agape
---Luke on 6/2/14


Peter on 5/31/14 - Everybody mind would have to be change so much God does not want to do That,

Romans 8:29 - For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate, ( To Be Conform to the image of his Son ) that he might be the firstborn among many brethren,

Ezekiel 36:27 - AND I will put men spirit within you , Cause you to walk in my statutes , and ye shall keep my judgments and do them,
---RICHARDC on 6/1/14


//Would God do that? Maybe? We can't be sure. There may be other problems with that......//

Dear Peter,
What problem could our Almighty Sovereign God have that He cannot accomplish His will? He is after all God Almighty. Or should we take the Almighty and Sovereign out of that sentence? Doesn't God tell us in the Bible tells us who He God is?
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand" (Daniel 4:35). If what you say is true, then what God says is not true at all. I would think again if I were you. Agape
---Luke on 6/1/14


2nd Timothy 4:2
Tells us why we study our bibles.
---shira4368 on 5/31/14


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Luke: 'If it pleased Him to save the whole world, the whole world would be saved'

Would God do that? Maybe? We can't be sure. There may be other problems with that......

The problem might be that, for everyone to be saved, everyone's mind would have to be changed so much that God does not want to do that.

Just an idea
---Peter on 5/31/14


The purpose of Bible study isn't to discover trivia that
no one else has seen yet.
Profitable Bible study requires spending time on foundational doctrines of the gospel. Every saint needs to be personally edified in the
doctrines of the gospel, our purpose, and right division.
Often, important doctrines are given little study or ignored in order to find some new trivial thing.
Basic doctrines are milk, advanced are meat, trivia is candy. They may be interesting, but do nothing to nourish you.
---michael_e on 5/31/14


//Then you say that GOD created some and makes some hate and GOD refuses to save them even though he could because He hates them. For what He makes them be and do.//

Dear Samuel,
Can you please show where I have said such things to you or anyone else? When did I say God hated anyone? Or when did I say God made some hate? You come out with such talk Samuel, just as when you said on another blog that because we are saved we have a license to sin all we want, just because you want to support your Saturday Sabbath. You invent such things, just like you accuse Haz of saying things, and you asked him the same thing I am asking you. I would hope that you would stand for the truth, instead of making up things I never said. Agape
---Luke on 5/31/14


//I would love to see a verse that says God DOES NOT WANT TO SAVE EVERYONE.//

Dear Kathr,
Our God is Sovereign. Who does what pleases Him. If it pleased Him to save the whole world, the whole world would be saved. Let me show you what God says about Himself:
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: (that means you and I) and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35).
God is doing His will and no one can stop Him. If it was His will to save all, all would be saved. It is no mystery.
Here:
"But He is in one mind, and who can turn Him? and what His soul desireth, even that He doeth" (Job 23:13) that is the God of the Bible. Agape
---Luke on 5/31/14


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I would love to see a verse that says God DOES NOT WANT TO SAVE EVERYONE. But I can't. So Markv please put 3 verses minimum that clearly say God does not want to save everyone. Or did you just make this up?

If scripture says God is not WILLING that any should perish, then it is not God's WILL that any should. So the issue then is Man's WILL. but because of this bogus no free will garbage nonsense, they are blind in seeing any truth. Is this the supposed SEE you all were given...is that what you SEE?
---kathr4453 on 5/30/14


"I'm not Markv as you suggest."
You are not "Luke" either, but you both are the same person going by different names.

---Nana on 5/30/14


Lisa perhaps???


Markv Luke and Trey still have not answered my question. And I know WHY.
---kathr4453 on 5/30/14


Luke you are contradicting yourself. You say GOD does not want anyone to burn in hell.

Then you say that GOD created some and makes some hate and GOD refuses to save them even though he could because He hates them. For what He makes them be and do.

If what you teach is true GOD does make humans including children so that HE can torture them in hell for all eternity. You cannot have it both ways.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/30/14


"I'm not Markv as you suggest."
You are not "Luke" either, but you both are the same person going by different names.
---Nana on 5/30/14


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God does not want anyone to perish, but He also cannot lie and holds firm to His covenants.
He has set forth the requirements and He will not turn from them to make Himself a liar and unjust.
Such is the One True and Holy God, Just and Merciful.
Mat 10:32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
1Pet 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father...
---micha9344 on 5/30/14


Trey 5/29/14 - Only way a man can see, being interested in and believe is to be born again first , ?

Lamentations 3:26 - It is good that a man should hope, and quietly wait for salvation of the Lord,

( trey - I think a unsaved person can understand the word to a point - and can stop sinning for a period of time, namely tares in the Church, But it is God that choses to make one born again and the another not, because it is not by works, Right ! God changes the person - Then at that point one truly believes, )

Philippians 1:6 - Being confident of this very thing that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ,
---RICHARDC on 5/29/14


//John 16:8
And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
The HOLY SPIRIT will convict everyone of sin. For GOD wishes to save everyone.//

First, God does not want to save everyone. He is God and if He wanted to save everyone, everyone would be save. God is in control of all things. A god who is not in control of all things is not God. 2 Peter 3:9 is not talking about the whole world, or every individual, but the elect, none will be lost. Read the context.
Second. The Holy Spirit does convict the world of sin.
1st. It is a judicial act of conviction with a view toward sentencing.
2nd. Here the Holy Spirit is not condemning. But conviction of a need for the Savior. Agape
---Luke on 5/30/14


//Samuel good point. Why would God want to burn somebody in hell.//

God gets no pleasure in judging the wicked who have sinned against Him and are without Christ. But they will burn in hell. They are condemned already.
"He who believes in Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." John 3:18.
---Luke on 5/30/14


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Samuel good point. Why would God want to burn somebody in hell. Salvation Is for all mankind our job as believers is to share that Gospel. It is not hard to do if you know who you are in Christ Jesus. We are the sharers of the Gospel. Not the judges of sin. But the shares of God's love.
---Bryan on 5/29/14


John 16:8

And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

The HOLY SPIRIT will convict everyone of sin. For GOD wishes to save everyone.


2Pe 3:9

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Just like the sower spread the seed everywhere. What we do in accepting the free gift is how we become Born Again by the Love of GOD and the power of the HOLY SPIRIT. We do nothing to save ourselves.

What does a baby do to keep itself alive and feed?
---Samuelb7 on 5/29/14


Luke and Trey, before I respond to your comments, please first answer this question:

When were Jesus Disciples Born Again? Peter, John etc?
---kathr4453 on 5/29/14


//ALL we are asked to do is believe Jesus Died and rose again for our SIN. We must make it personal.//

Dear Kathr,
I'm not Markv as you suggest. For salvation, you are asked of nothing. Salvation is by God's grace through faith,
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works, lest anyone boast." Ephesians 2:8,9.
In order to hear the word and believe it, you have to have spiritual hearing, because faith comes by hearing the gospel
"So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God" Romans 10:17.
When God saves someone, He gives him spiritual hearing, so that faith can come to the individual. Agape
---Luke on 5/29/14


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Kathr, and MarkV, I'm just asking this question to stir your pure mind.

What do you believe Christ meant when he said:
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Now let's compare this to:
1Cor 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Looking at scripture, it is my opinion that the only way a man can see, be interested in, and believe, is to be born again first.
---trey on 5/29/14


But even the faith to believe in the risen Christ is a gift of God so that no one can boast. If a person could of himself regenerate himself, give himself a new heart, grant himself faith to believe, then it would be possible with man. Jesus tells us it's impossible. Agape

---Luke on 5/28/14

MarkV, God never asks anyone to first regenerate himself, or first love Jesus or first give himself a new heart. You falsely state one must first have these thing TO BELIEVE. No scripture says any such thing. YOU are adding to scripture what is not there. ALL we are asked to do is believe Jesus Died and rose again for our SIN. We must make it personal. Everything else comes to us AFTER we believe.
---kathr4453 on 5/28/14


Luke 11:13
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

1.Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

The Holy Spirit is the one who sheds abroad in our heart the Love of God AFTER we repent and believe ..Romans 5

And of course don't forget Ephesians also clarify's this that we are sealed with the Holy Spirit AFTER we believe.
---kathr453 on 5/28/14


You cannot boast of a gift you are given just for accepting it. That is just recognizing that we are lost helpless sinners.

What boasting in there is recognizing that we are lost and totally helpless?

That would be like a 4 year old claiming credit for the house he lives in.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/28/14


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//..none of all you mentioned could be possible without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is the death and risen life of Christ that gives man all those things in salvation. so our faith is IN THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST. Those who have put their faith in Christ are given all you mentioned as a gift. This gift is given to SINNERS. ANY sinner can ask and receive all you mentioned simply by Faith in Jesus death and resurrection.//

But even the faith to believe in the risen Christ is a gift of God so that no one can boast. If a person could of himself regenerate himself, give himself a new heart, grant himself faith to believe, then it would be possible with man. Jesus tells us it's impossible. Agape
---Luke on 5/28/14


Luke, what you say is true, BUT we must remember none of all you mentioned could be possible without the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is the death and risen life of Christ that gives man all those things in salvation. so our faith is IN THE DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST. Those who have put their faith in Christ are given all you mentioned as a gift. This gift is given to SINNERS. ANY sinner can ask and receive all you mentioned simply by Faith in Jesus death and resurrection.

Romans 10:9-10 Salvation is in no other way!
---kathr4453 on 5/27/14


Samuel,
A.W. Pink teaches truth, that with men salvation is impossible. People try to push themselves into the kingdom of God, but they cannot enter, Jesus said, You have to be born of the Spirit. People have turned the word upside down, add a little, and take a little to try and make it say what the word does not say.
The sinner has no power to change his love for Christ, or to abandon his own righteousness, or abandon his own wretched sinful heart, are to abandon his own sinful priorities. He has no power to transform himself, or regenerated himself. Those things are impossible with man. Luke 18:24-30 Jesus says that with men this is impossible. But with God all things are possible. Todays pulpits teach what man like to hear . Agape
---Luke on 5/27/14


Dear Luke I love to hear that GOD ("That He made us spiritually alive when we were in trespasses and sins? That He changed our hearts, and gave us faith to believe? That He Justified us? sanctified us, and one day glorify us?")

Where I disagree is that he decided this for us and forces all to be lost or saved.

I hate the doctrine that GOD will keep people alive burning in torture for all eternity because he wanted to put them there and choose to put them there.

How long would you torture a person who you forced to do something wrong?
---Samuelbb7 on 5/27/14


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Dear Samuel,
Of course reading Pink is a problem for you and many. Your not alone. Who wants to be told that God is sovereign Lord, and does with His creation whatsoever He wants?
That He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world? That He made us spiritually alive when we were in trespasses and sins? That He changed our hearts, and gave us faith to believe? That He Justified us? sanctified us, and one day glorify us? No one wants to hear that. They want to hear how man has the power to change his own heart. Has the power to walk into the light. Has the power to give himself spiritual sight. Because after all if he doesn't then God is a dictator.
To the sinner God is not the Potter, sinful man is and God is but clay. Agape
---Luke on 5/27/14


I have a huge problem with Pink. I do not believe the Calvinist understanding of GOD. That GOD predestines some to heaven and others to hell because no one has any choice in the matter.

I do not see GOD as a dictator.

But a loving kind Father.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/26/14


Jesus gave us the keys to the kingdom of heaven. He gave us the secrets and the hidden things to. Then Jesus said if you will listen to me. All of this is in the first parable he taught Matthew 13, Mark 4, and then in Luke 8. Jesus explains to us what you will do or not do with him. Some of the thinks he taught you will keep and reproduce and some you will through to the ground. Read them and study them, they are the best 3 chapters to start you studing.
---Bryan on 5/26/14


Dear Rita,
Another way to study Scripture correctly is to study the nature of God first. A good book that can help is called, "the Nature of God" by W. Pink.
Once you understand and believe in your heart the passages that speak concerning God that are found in the book and in Scripture, you will be able to answer many questions you once had in Scripture. The reason is, that God is the same yesterday, today and forever. He never changes but humans change all the time. Agape.
---Luke on 5/26/14


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Logos Software produces some of the most comprehensive tools for computer based Bible study aids. It is expensive but you get what you pay for, development cost is expensive. They are located in Bellingham, Washington.
---Blogger9211 on 5/26/14


Thanks Trav. I have used Esword in the past on the recommendation of someone else and found it very useful.
---Rita_H on 5/24/14


Dear Rita,
There is many ways in which to study. Online, or at your home, by yourself or with someone else.
But there is also a good way to interpret the Bible, by using hermeneutics. Hermeneutics is considered the science and art of biblical interpretation. Hermeneutics is considered a science because it has rules and these rules can be classified into an orderly system.
You will know if the Spirit is moving you to use hermeneutics to understand the Bible better. The Spirit will create a passion in your heart to want to learn more about God. Agape
---Luke on 5/24/14


I did not mean that I am trying to study biblical issues by looking online.---Rita_H on 5/20/14

Ha. I did misunderstand a little. I would encourage anyone on using a computer to study even so. Biblegateway offers the different versions online for comparisions. Esword too.
I like these scriptures below.
Ecc_12:12 And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
1Th_4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you,
2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
---Trav on 5/22/14


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Trav
And that's the problem. One makes a witness for them. They say Paul taught this and Paul taught that, but can not produce anyone else who taught it. When you ask for a witness, they give you more scripture from Paul.
---David on 5/21/14

Way we are taught in our foolish churches. One should always include a prophet, Christ statements or GOD's in any meaningful discussion if possible. Other wise it is an opinion on a verse. As you've noticed it is preachers who get the most upset with the scripture I've posted. There is a message/sign in that alone.
I asked one on a personal level if I'm wrong don't you care enough about me to show me where i err? He didn't. Signs, signs everywhere are signs....just like the song.
---Trav on 5/22/14


You've noticed I provoke some here, who have theories but, no multiple scriptural witnesses to back their theories. --Trav

Trav
And that's the problem. One makes a witness for them. They say Paul taught this and Paul taught that, but can not produce anyone else who taught it. When you ask for a witness, they give you more scripture from Paul.

I love Paul's letters, they have helped me immensely in understanding my relationship with God, but to use him as their Author of salvation, over the teachings of Jesus Christ, WOW!!
---David on 5/21/14


WIVV, thankyou. I already have a N.A.S.B as, some years, ago I did several bible study courses online with Charles Stanley and that was the preferred version for those studies. I have many different version and, sometimes, it helps to compare one with another.
---RitaH on 5/21/14


I would start reading Matthew chapter 13. Then I would read Mark chapter 4. Then I would read Luke chapter 8. King James, amplified, American standard. And write them out on paper until you see what is given to you. Best three chapters in the bible.
---Bryan on 5/20/14


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I read the Bible but mainly even during reading I ran the references on the verses listed next to them. That is so enlightening to do that it helps one understand their meaning better. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 5/20/14


Trav, just in case you have misunderstood me, what I mean by 'reading on my computer monitor' means I am looking up specific version of the bible and reading it online. I can change print size etc. for ease of reading.

I did not mean that I am trying to study biblical issues by looking online.

Maybe you did not think I meant that but just wish to clarify the situation.
---Rita_H on 5/20/14


This time I am reading on my computer monitor as it is much better because of my vision problems.
---Rita_H on 5/18/14

Yes. Ask GOD and Research. Liked Davids reply. He argued with scripture and it won with research.

My Bible was thirty years neglected before I was provoked by scriptural statements a person made. You know what though? He utilized two or more scriptures. There by letting GOD's spokepersons answer my questions.
You've noticed I provoke some here, who have theories but, no mutltiple scriptural witnesses to back their theories. The whole world flooders etc. Many want the Bible to say what they want it too....not what the GOD,Prophets,Apostles and Christ say.
---Trav on 5/20/14


Here is what I've found best for me: 1. Mix your readings - read a few chapters of the Old Testament and a few from the New Testament. 2. Know some of the historical background. For example: most of the N.T. are letters written to deal with a particular situation in the early church, but also has a meaningfulness for today. While most start the N.T. by reading the Gospels, very few know why there is so much duplication in some of the Gospels because many don't understand why they were written or to whom written. There are many free helps on the Inter-net to help you. Make sure you use a good translation and not a paraphrase to study the Bible. (My personal suggestion is The New American Standard Bible.)
---wivv on 5/20/14


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First, I think a believer needs to learn how to listen. Sit silently and listen to what the Holy Spirit is trying to teach you.
Get alone without the radio or the TV on. Go on a long walk in the woods or on a drive, and just listen.

Don't be surprised if you hear the Truth, a lesson that goes against what you believe. My first lesson, to my knowledge, was a lesson on Faith. And I disagreed with what I was hearing. But after the lesson I did some research, and discovered what I heard was the Truth, and what I had believed, was not.
---David on 5/20/14


I am now studying in a more thematic way, as opposed to reading a book at a time.

My current theme is Jesus relationship to His Father, the Scriptures where Jesus uses the phrase "My Father", and the impact it has had on our understanding of who God is and how we relate to Our Father in Heaven.

The study has changed the way I see Our Father, Jesus relationship to Him, and my relationship to Him. It has also changed my perception of trust, intimacy, and relationship on a personal level.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/19/14


Well I study different ways for different reasons.

I read whole books to get the context and find when and where and to who that book was written to help gain context.

I to and have done topical studies.

But one that few do and I try to do more. Is take a single verse and meditate on it. Talk to GOD about it and ask how can it help me in life and to know my JESUS better.

This can only be done with some verse but it is very good.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/19/14


I usually read 2 NT books then do a OT book in a cycle but the pattern is not strict.
I am trying a new idea of taking a characteristic of God and finding as many verses that deal with that topic cover to cover. So far I like it because it makes me focus on God and not an issue I am dealing with at the moment.
I also like John MacArthur's NT workbooks will have to try his OT series as well. Good question.
My other way is an OT survey class, which as been really cool.
---Scott1 on 5/19/14


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2 Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
There are misconceptions that occur in bible studies when we don't rightly divide. When we rightly divide the word of truth we give to Israel what belongs to Israel and we give to the body of Christ what belongs to the body of Christ.

An example, some teach Matt 24 as being the same as 1Thess 4. Right division study shows two different events.

Example.Do we need works for righteousness? James 2:24 & Titus 3:5
Study rightly dividing shows clearly they are not the same.
Example.
Do we need works for righteousness? James 2:24 & Titus 3:5
---michael_e on 5/18/14


I have a daily reading plan that doesnt change each year. I read 3 readings a day. 2 old 1 new testament. We go chapter by chapter vs by vs.
---Candice on 5/18/14


I don't think it matters which plan you use, as long as you actually read.

However, the Bible contains different kinds of writing: historical, prophetic, poetic, and others.

Some have suggested that a good way is to read a chapter of each kind of writing each day.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/18/14


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