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Where Will AntiChrist Come

I browsed through a site that said that the Antichrist will come from mahometanism.

This is an attractive idea on the surface, but I don't like thinking about the deep things of Satan.

What do you all think?

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Well cluny, my pastor has called himself a believer since I've known. He calls others believers too. Maybe I've not been around the world but everyone knows what a believer is.
---shira4368 on 6/7/14


Dear Steven,
What you should do is stop persecuting the church of Christ. I am not doing that. I spend a lot of time at my church, helping others. Edifying the church members. There is great many Christians in many denominations. Great brothers and sisters have come out of many of them. It is of the outmost importance to help our brothers and sisters no matter where they are at. Agape
---Luke on 6/7/14


It is perhaps quiet unwise to attribute to Satan something which is not from Satan. The Pharisees tended to do this. Jesus called it blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Matthew 12:22-32.
---love.Jesus on 6/6/14


Luke, you really need to stop your false accusations.

In short, a local Lutheran church "hired" me as Director of Education (my background at that time: 25 years of teaching, Calif state certified to teach college and owned 3 corporations and one business). I started new classes in the bible and ESL. Began a youth service and organized a band. After a couple of months I found the members deep in backstabbing and bickering. After much praying, a week before Easter the pastor had to leave suddenly and asked me to preside over sunday services. The Holy Spirit had something else in mind besides the usual Easter sermon. After one year the pastor quit and the church became nothing more than a social club - even to this day.
---Steveng on 6/6/14


\\Cluny, Whether or not anyone has cloned a human being from thousands-of-years-old blood is irrelevant.

The DNA in dried blood is still active and alive and CAN BE cloned from.
---Gordon on 6/6/14\\

Is it?

Did you know that among the things we eliminate daily are DEAD blood cells, both red and white?

Please give scientific proof of your claim, Gordon.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/6/14




Cluny, Whether or not anyone has cloned a human being from thousands-of-years-old blood is irrelevant.

The DNA in dried blood is still active and alive and CAN BE cloned from.
---Gordon on 6/6/14


\\cluny when one is talking about a body of believers, it is always belief in God or a born again believer\\

Is it?

Don't forget, shira, not all people know Evangelical buzz words, such as the mahometans your pastor met in the elevator. It would have been better had he called himself a Christian.

Don't forget, mahometans call themselves "believers" and Christians "unbelievers" or infidels.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/6/14


cluny when one is talking about a body of believers, it is always belief in God or a born again believer. I have never heard a bunch of communist called a body of believers. where do you come up with this stuff from? 2 middle eastern men ask my pastor if he was jew and my pastor said no I am a believer. they were on an elevator at a hospital.
---shira4368 on 6/6/14


//I have worked in many denominational churches over the past forty years, but not as a member.//

Dear Steven,
You say that denominational churches are created by Satan. And say they speak false, then you say you have worked with many denominational churches for the past forty years, do you not see your fault? You say they teach bad, and you say you teach there, maybe they teach bad because you teach there. Or just maybe what you teach there is not what the Bible teaches. How do you know you are right and they are wrong? What barometer do you use? Your own beliefs? If the Spirit led you there, maybe it was so that you could know the truth, but you did not grasp any of it. Agape
---Luke on 6/6/14


That's more important than you think. The Bible says you can believe a lie and be damned.

Glory to Jesus Christ!

---Cluny
Correct. If a person believes that their actions save themselves they are lost. If a person does not believe that they are to follow JESUS as LORD but can live in sin they are lost. If a person hates others they are lost.

But lack of knowledge on many important but not salvation essential doctrines will still be saved. For Love covers a multitude of sins.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/6/14




"Gathering of believers" is meaningless.

Nazi party meetings or Communist cells are gatherings of believers, too.

But they believe in the wrong things.

What and in whom do you believe?

That's more important than you think. The Bible says you can believe a lie and be damned.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/5/14


Luke: "No one knows who the believers are, not even in your home gatherings.

If you don't know then you ARE lost indeed. 2 Corinthians 13:5,6, Galatians 3:7, Ephesians 6:21, 22, Philippians 2:19, Philippians 4:5, Colossians 4:8, 9, 1 Thessalonians 1:5, 1 Thessalonians 3:5, 1 Thessalonians 5:12, 2 Timothy 3:10, James 5:20

Luke: "Instead of helping those churches, you speak against them. Make a difference with love."

You surely don't know me personally and yet you are attack me, you bear false witness against me. I have worked in many denominational churches over the past forty years, but not as a member. I surely go where the Spirit leads me.
---Steveng on 6/5/14


//Show me one post that I spoke against the gathering of believers.//

Dear Steven,
Most of your answers and blogs are anti-denominatial. Do you not realize that the gathering of most of the believers are in churches? That they not only meet at homes, parks, but in many hundreds of churches? Do you not realize that the elect will come from all corners of the world. yes, even the RCC, Eastern Orthodox, Pentecostals, Baptist, and others? They do not have to do what you do in order to be saved. No one knows who the believers are, not even in your home gatherings. Only God knows who they are, and you condemn their gatherings. Instead of helping those churches, you speak against them. Make a difference with love. Agape
---Luke on 6/5/14


Warwick, actually I find it a waste of time answering you since I have done so over and over, even you FINALLY admitting...OH YEA, I missed that, you did answer, .....just to start back at ground zero where you must have memory issues. If you really want those answers Warwick, go back to our previous discussions and you will see it all there. YOU continue to bully those who hold a different view point than yourself by DEMANDING they answer or else YOU will pronounce judgment on their silence, by filling in the silence with your OWN made up garbage you are in hopes will encourage the abused to come back and defend themselves against your false accusations. it's really very childish Warwick. Move on!
---kathr4453 on 6/5/14


Kath, you calling me a bully is so funny.

I only expect (as others can expect of me) that on a public forum bloggers will be honest enough to answer questions. It is my opinion that someone (like you for example) who refuses to answer relevant questions has something to hide.
---Warwick on 6/4/14


Luke: "Lets see if Jesus heard you speak against the gathering of believers as you have so many times,"

Show me one post that I spoke against the gathering of believers.
---Steveng on 6/4/14


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//You have proven what I have posted on other blogs that if Jesus were on these blogs many of you would flame him//

I noticed in your statement you did not include yourself at all. You said, many of you, you did not say including I. Lets see if Jesus heard you speak against the gathering of believers as you have so many times, He would not be shocked. What you should do is speak in love, do not condemn the elect. They are everywhere. While many denominations are bad, we cannot judge the elect who gather there. Many great Christian brothers and sisters. Agape
---Luke on 6/4/14


love.jesus, your repeated refusal to answer a relevant question speaks volumes.-----
---Warwick on 6/3/14

Warwick, would you please stop bullying people on line who simply do not want to discuss with you. Love.jesus said as much and you are still at him, bullying him. The VOLUMES many here are saying is we don't care to debate with you. You twist, put words in others mouths never said...which I call LYING re evolution.....and then keep bullying to debate. He doesn't want to debate you and neither do I. Many here don't Warwick. Joseph has to leave town....just to get away from your nagging attacks.

Are you simply that desperate or lonely? Get a puppy then.
---kathr4453 on 6/4/14


Job 38: 3 Gird up now thy loins like a man, for I will demand of thee, and answer thou me.

God spoke these words to Job. Only God has a right to DEMAND any answer from another. When men act like they are God himself! it's time to remove yourselves from one such person. We are asked by The Lord NOT TO ENGAGE IN ENDLESS DISPUTES.

So Warwick, perhaps if you spent more time in other areas of scripture, you may find other truths more pleasing to God when obeyed, not debated.

God bless.
---kathr453 on 6/4/14


Luke: ".., and none of us will agree with everything someone says, but that doesn't mean that many of the things they say is wrong, only that we do not agree on that one topic. you also have great answers many times, and I agree with them. Some I don't.
Be patient with everyone, not everyone knows what you know. Not everyone knows what I know. We should be able to discuss questions in a loving way. Agape"

You have proven what I have posted on other blogs that if Jesus were on these blogs many of you would flame him terribly for not conforming to your personal interpretations of the bible. What about people who have no other doctrine (taught from denominational churches) than that of the bible?
---Steveng on 6/3/14


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Well Cluny you simply prove that those of us who do not believe in the Pre Tribulation rapture know more about it then those who say they believe it.

While all are not sure about the Margaret part the second part of your post is on a firm historical Basis and I totally agree with you.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/3/14


Kath you are a deceiver. It is you who accused me of being a liar, but you have absolutely nothing to base it on, as the record shows. So who is the accuser and liar?

You grumble about my supposed misrepresentation of your beliefs regarding the Gap Theory however I have no idea what you believe as you refuse to be honest about it.

You even tried to put words in Luke's mouth but that backfired, as anyone can see below. Now that is a wilful distortion of the truth i.e. a lie.
---Warwick on 6/3/14


Warwick, I do not wish to continue a discussion with an unreasonable person who resorts to cursing and threats and false accusations. To say I have not answered your questions is just MORE LIES, or memory loss. Or you THINK it's cute to say, so you can try and engage in more discussions on the subject. Just go back and see the last sentence of all your posts.

I consider your posts to be dangerous, hostile, harassing, and unstable.

I will not be bullied into continuing a discussion WITH YOU.

Maybe you should spend more time on other subjects Warwick. Start with 1st Corinthians 13. The one you have been obsessed with for years has made you vicious hateful petty and childish. Definitely not Christ like qualities.
---kathr4453 on 6/3/14


I have asked, on numerous occasions, for you to explain what it is you believe, but you have refused to do so repeatedly. I am therefore free to speculate publically upon your disbeliefs. But you can change that anytime you like by answering.

---Warwick on 6/2/14

This is what these harassing posts are about....everyone of your posts to me. THIS IS YOUR MOTIVE, and a most dishonest one at that. Because of your lies and dishonesty Warwick I will not EVER discuss my personal beliefs with you. And guess what? God never made YOU the gate keeper of truth to decide whether one is saved or not, or believes or not. Speculate all you wish. Remember PRIDE always comes before a fall. Don't hurt yourself when you hit the ground.
---kathr453 on 6/3/14


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Dear Kathr,
there really is no reason for anyone online to get upset at someone else for the simple reason of discussing biblical questions. There should be love coming from all of us. Biblical questions are serious, and none of us will agree with everything someone says, but that doesn't mean that many of the things they say is wrong, only that we do not agree on that one topic. you also have great answers many times, and I agree with them. Some I don't.
Be patient with everyone, not everyone knows what you know. Not everyone knows what I know. We should be able to discuss questions in a loving way. Agape
---Luke on 6/3/14


Kath, as Luke has shown you are talking nonsense. Nothing new there!

You choose not to apologize for calling me a liar, nor to have the decency to show where I have lied. That you cannot do so shows who the liar is.

I have asked, on numerous occasions, for you to explain what it is you believe, but you have refused to do so repeatedly. I am therefore free to speculate publically upon your disbeliefs. But you can change that anytime you like by answering.

What is it that you are hiding?
---Warwick on 6/2/14


\\I have not read to my memory anyone here actually know how this pretribulation rapture theory was formed and supported.\\

I have mentioned occasionally it was invented by a woman named Margaret MacDonald of Port Glasgow, Scotland in 1830.

She was into table tipping and other demonic phenomena.

Charles Darby of the Plymouth Brethren and his disciple (later divorced by his wife) C. I. Schofield.

The PB's eventually repudiated pre-mil pre-trib rapturism. No major denomination believes it. The Orthodox certainly never did.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/2/14


\\I believe Cluny on ascension is referring to the pre tribulation secret rapture. \\

Nope.

I'm referring to the Feast of the Ascension of Christ, which is observed by all the pre-Reformation churches on the Thursday 40 days after Pascha.

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/2/14


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And I know the seriousness of evolution, and nowhere did Joseph say anything about people being evolve. So how can that make Jesus wrong? Agape

---Luke on 5/21/14


Shira, you are absolutely correct. Here was Luke's reply to Warwick after Warwick presumed his own one version Gap Principal on Joseph. Thank you Luke for defending Joseph against Warwick's accusation that had no basis. Obviously you assumed the same thing I did...that was accusing Joseph of believing Warwick's one and only personal version of a belief that has many versions.

Joseph nor I believe in Evolution. Please STOP lying and accusing us that we do.
---kathr4453 on 6/2/14


Warwick, I like many of your post. I find with myself, my words don't do the meaning justice. You have always respected my post even if your belief is maybe not like mine. Things are discussions here that divide Christians. The gap theory is an empty subject and not relevant for doctrine or salvation.
---shira4368 on 6/2/14


Dear Kathr,
I, in no way called Warwick out. You make it seem as if I got angry with him or something. I asked him a question and he kindly answered me. I did the same with Cluny when he answered Shira. He, on the other hand did not respond to my question.
I believe that Warwick is very honest, and most of the time correct. He is concern with what many do when they make opinions about something that is clearly explain in the word of God. He mostly shows the importance of not making things up. Have a good day, Agape
---Luke on 6/2/14


First true cloning from dried blood is currently Science Fiction. That this is argued and proposed shows that some do not understand how cloning is currently done.

I believe Cluny on ascension is referring to the pre tribulation secret rapture.

I have not read to my memory anyone here actually know how this pretribulation rapture theory was formed and supported. Most just seem to go along with the so and so said it so it must be true.

I do not agree with that.

Agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/2/14


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Kath, without any foundation you accuse me of being a liar and casually say "move on"! You have committed a grievous sin and act as though it was nothing. Is this the proper act of a Christian? Let me be plain: do I doubt your Christianity? Yes, I certainly do.

You cast a slur upon me regarding something I am supposed have done to Joseph, but in typical fashion supply no details!

As regards your personal Gap Theory I asked you many times to explain it but you refused. Please give me the details.
---Warwick on 6/1/14


Gordon, can you give any concrete examples of a creature being cloned from centuries old dried blood?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/1/14


Luke, yes, I needed to hear it myself from somebody or read about it.
---love.jesus on 6/1/14


Warwick, I believe Luke even called you out for accusing Joseph of saying something he never said. Move on Warwick. Your threats and accusations don't bother me at all. You accuse everyone who doesn't agree with you of something or another, with a full face confrontal of your own imagination.

When stating the gap principal, in the future clearly state ONE VERSION IS..... Instead of using your distorted version that believes in evolution. That is dishonest. Dishonesty is a lie. Half truths are a lie.. Selective truths and not the whole truth is a lie, only crooked politicians use.
---kathr4453 on 6/1/14


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love.jesus,
if you do not view any human being lost, why did you say:
"//You may warn people if you wish. But it won't bring them salvation or the love of Jesus. It is Good news that is to be preached, not bad?//

I know you didn't say they needed salvation, but you did say they needed the good news to be preached. What for if they are not lost? Or do you believe they need to hear the good news just to hear it? Agape
---Luke on 6/1/14


Kath, again I remind you that you have blatantly, and ignorantly called me a liar without giving any truth. This is a serious sin and I have given you further opportunity to give evidence of my deceit. But nothing from you.

Therefore we all know who the liar is. Shame on you. It is your sort of low person who gives Christianity a bad name.
---Warwick on 5/31/14


Thank you, Luke.

I don't view any human being as being lost.
---love.jesus on 5/31/14


Dear love.jesus,
Your answers have been right on. I do not think many here like them, it goes against their own beliefs. I tried to tell that to someone, that when God makes us spiritually alive we were dead in trespasses and sins, and that when that happens a person only knows of that change, when their hearts are changed and they begin to seek after God. The lost never seek after God, Romans 3:11. Agape
---Luke on 5/31/14


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\\Cluny, The DNA in dried blood is still "living", still active. Therefore it can be cloned from.
Life truly is in the blood.\\

I'm not scientist enough to know about these matter.

To my knowledge, there have been no efforts to extract DNA from ancient bloodstains, whether from the SoT or elsewhere, or of any species.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/30/14


Steven, You are right about that of course. But the people who are saved were saved while they were still in their sins and not because of anything they did. Rom.5:18,19, Eph.2:8,9. Our salvation was an accomplished fact before we knew anything about it.
---love.jesus on 5/30/14


Cluny, The DNA in dried blood is still "living", still active. Therefore it can be cloned from.
Life truly is in the blood.

Leviticus 17:11-14
---Gordon on 5/30/14


\\That being said, I hope Cluny finds it helpful to let him know that his use of "closed" may not have been appropriate. I believe he was trying to use "cloned."\\

Indeed I did. Thank you very much.

In any case, whoever's blood (or whatever's) blood is on the SoT, the DNA would be so degraded it would be terribly unlikely to produce a clone from it.

Happy Ascension!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/29/14


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love.jesus: "God does not need your help or mine to save anyone. It is pure grace. It is all God's work. The gospel is, God's grace is here now. Enjoy it! "

How do you suppose the gospel, the soon to come Kingdom of God, is spread? The purpose of christians is to preach the word of God and to save as many people as possible. Jesus preached it. The apostles preached it. And all the apostles and christians, thereafter, preached it. The harvest is huge, but the workers are few.
---Steveng on 5/29/14


So many people have been influenced by the Left Behind movies and the Pretrib rapture theory that they do not know what the Bible actually says.


2Co 11:14

And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

There are many Antichrists walking the earth right now. But just before JESUS comes Satan himself will appear in his angelic form and convince many to follow him.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/30/14


\\God does not need your help or mine to save anyone.\\

But God works through people.

When Jesus ascended into Heaven, He told His disciples to teach all nations. He did not tell them to let God's grace teach them supernaturally.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/30/14


God does not need your help or mine to save anyone. It is pure grace. It is all God's work. The gospel is, God's grace is here now. Enjoy it!
---love.jesus on 5/29/14


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I don't mind being corrected, but sometimes I get irritated by the attitude conveyed with it.
That being said, I hope Cluny finds it helpful to let him know that his use of "closed" may not have been appropriate. I believe he was trying to use "cloned."
If I am wrong, so be it, but we all must receive correction in our lives.
Luke 6:31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
Pro 1:5 A wise [man] will hear, and will increase learning, and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:
---micha9344 on 5/29/14


\\ inhabit a body cloned from the blood from the Shroud of Turin. \\

The chances of a human being being closed from ANY blood stains (SoT or otherwise) are nil.

Happy Ascension!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/29/14


I believe that the real Anti-Christ will be a very high-ranking fallen angel (not Satan, though). And, that, possibly, this angelic being may, at some point in time, inhabit a body cloned from the blood from the Shroud of Turin.
No, I'm not be facetious.
I'm very serious.
The Anti-Christ will claim to be "Jesus Christ come back to Earth".
He will be disguised as a loving and caring "savior" to the World.
Possibly, there will be a false Anti-Christ beforehand, like a regular, highly respected and influential human being (as in the LEFT BEHIND series), to make the real Anti-Christ appear as "Jesus Christ".
It's all a game in deception and lies to snag the masses into taking the Mark of the Beast.
---Gordon on 5/29/14


Paul warned about people living in sin. Yet many more people are concerned about the Antichrist then they are about living in sin.

In Fact John, Peter, James and JESUS all warned about living in sin.

If we are living in faith and following JESUS then we do not have to be so concerned about the Antichrist since we will recognize him from out time spent in reading the Bible.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/29/14


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3.Ezekiel 3:18
When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die, and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life, the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at thine hand.


Seriously love.jesus? How do you know it won't save him? Are you calling God's word a lie? You must be. If I were in a building on fire and I found the ONLY WAY OUT, would I not warn others to get out also the way I did? OR would I just say....sorry folks.....Jesus Loves you, smile and run?
---kathr4453 on 5/29/14


You may warn people if you wish. But it won't bring them salvation or the love of Jesus. It is Good news that is to be preached, not bad.
---love.jesus on 5/29/14


The antichrist comes from within the Church.
"These many antichrist "went out from us." 1 John 2:19.
Apostle John tells us that many antichrist come from within the church.
---Luke on 5/29/14


love.jesus, being able to warn others is most important. Paul seemed to think so as well or he wouldn't have written all those things. Nor would John have.
---kathr4453 on 5/28/14


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The Antichrist is not someone I think about. Thinking about him accomplishes absolutely nothing positive in my life. It it only instills fear. Perfect love casts out fear, and that should be my goal.
---love.jesus on 5/27/14


Well,thanks,geez that stuff horrible
She quit given.it at all made me do hard work as a child,that took the place for a while.
Some kids need attention and a spicy bit of motherly love would have helped..
Thankyou,Katrn4453
---Elena9555 on 5/27/14


Hi Elena, though you would like this"
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Theres a tremendous push where if the kids behavior is thought to be quote-unquote abnormal if theyre not sitting quietly at their desk thats pathological, instead of just childhood, Dr. Jerome Groopman, a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and the author of How Doctors Think, told the Times.

The number of teenagers prescribed such medications is expected to rise again soon.


There are the non-conformists !!!
---kathr4453 on 5/27/14


Kath, you are dishonest. You accused me of being a liar but cannot defend your claim when challenged. You have had plenty of time (on two threads) to do so which means you cannot do so. I know I have not lied so that leaves you as the liar.

Deceit, and evasion is your style.
---Warwick on 5/26/14


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Hello.Kath4453 all respect you maybe right!
as a kid they gave me Ridlyn for HADD well,mom said no more,giving it,because makes her worse..they threw me out of school.
Suspended till dr.notes,return/on meds.
It made me aggitated.

love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 5/26/14


Truth there are many ant-christ walking the earth. I think we are talking about the one who deceives the world. I don't think that one is revealed yet. I do believe followers of Jesus could spot him. The people that will believe him are the one who don't know Jesus.
---Bryan on 5/23/14


Dear Cluny,
The word antichrist or antichrists are found in Scripture, and all of these reference are in two books, 1st and 2nd John. They are not found any place else.
1 John 2:18, 1 John 2:19, 1 John 2:22, 1 John 2:26, 1 John 4:3, 1 John 4:6, 2 John 4:6, 2 John 7, 2 John 9.
Scripture tells us that the early Christians had heard the antichrist was coming, and that even now there are many antichrist, and that "they went out from us" . Speaking of that time, but are still out there today.
Don't think of Satan or the antichrist, we should be thinking of always following Christ. Agape
---Luke on 5/23/14


//He will be revealed when the body of Christ is off the earth. Cause he knows there are some believers who know who they are in Christ Jesus.//

If the rapture were true, there would be no reason for an antichrist because everyone on earth would be antichrist.

//First there are currently many Antichrists walking the face of the earth.//

Very true.

//This is an attractive idea on the surface, but I don't like thinking about the deep things of Satan.//

I don't know what "the deep" things of Satan are, but I agree, I wouldn't think too hard about whatever that might be.
---Rod4Him on 5/22/14


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First there are currently many Antichrists walking the face of the earth. See my previous post.

So some of the ideas about Antichrist presented so far are true and are being done right now.

For instance Islam is spreading it's false Gospel to the world right now. Yet many Christians are more concerned with minor matters instead of spreading the Gospel.

The Final coming Antichrist will pretend to be JESUS. He will proclaim himself to be the true JESUS.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/22/14


//I have said the Gap Theory is a belief based upon false premises. The only difference between the varieties of this old heresy is where the imagined gap is placed in Scripture.//

I totally agree with you Warwick. Many put the gap theory before the first day. The reason they take that theory is because the Bible says,
"the earth was without form, and void" but that means "not finished" in its shape and yet uninhabited by creatures (Isa. 45:18,19: Jer. 4:23). It nowhere means that it was destroy once because there was people there who sin. Nothing to that effect. At least not in the passages. Someone has to build and add to the passage what is not there. Agape
---Luke on 5/22/14


Kath, your recent unpleasant vituperation (on another thread) confirms why I decided not to continue corresponding with you.

You have long paraded yourself as a Bible-believer but your exposure as a Scriptural compromiser has embarrassed and enraged you, hence the nonsense I refer to.

Where have I lied? Quote/s please.
Where have I been dishonest?
I have said the Gap Theory is a belief based upon false premises. The only difference between the varieties of this old heresy is where the imagined gap is placed in Scripture. You refused to say where you place the gap!

When and where did I insult someones salvation?

Jesus says man was made at the beginning of creation-was he right or wrong?
---Warwick on 5/22/14


Probably from the coastal European area. With Jewish ties ... the kind that is not circumcised in the heart ... those that reject or never did recognize jesus as messiah.
---aka on 5/21/14


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Mahomet? I disagree. I believe scripture has already given a picture of who...that resembling King Herod a Jew, or one who converted to Judaism, NOT OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH, as only a true king could only come from the tribe of Judah, who was placed there by Rome to be Rome's puppet-master, who murdered the TRUE KING AND RIGHTFUL HEIR TO THE THRONE YET TO COME.

We may see something like this.

---kathr4453 on 5/21/14


\\Non-conformists are punished...right from the first grade on.\\

The Amish live on the principle of outward conformity. Even some Evangelical churches did that in the '50's.

And there's no such thing as a pre-trib rapture.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/21/14


Revelation 14:11
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.


I'm more inclined to think of someone like hitler where a swastika was a particular mark that identified all who followed this ideology. Could something like this happen again? Oh you know it can, and will. History ALWAYS repeats itself.

When we see schools, employees, members of many churches, and now all these DRUGS PEOPLE TAKE, even children forced to take drugs or leave school because they won't conform, people are being programmed to conform. Non-conformists are punished...right from the first grade on.
---kathr4453 on 5/21/14


There are many Antichrists walking around today.

2John 1:7

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

So why should the last main one be afraid. Most of the world will listen and follow. The followers of Islam will turn to this fake and false jesus. He will unite all the religions of the world into one.

Christians will have to stand for truth just like in the days of the Roman Empire.
---Samuelbb7 on 5/21/14


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He will be revealed when the body of Christ is off the earth. Cause he knows there are some believers who know who they are in Christ Jesus. That rhey would put a stop to his caoz.
---Bryan on 5/20/14


I am more inclined to think of a belief system that slowly invades all others, which blends the lines and shows all things common. Such, I believe is mysticism, which has successfully infiltrated all cultures and beliefs to varying degrees.
It is becoming more apparent that "peace" and "life" are held higher than any entity providing such, and that both can be obtained by one's own "self" realizations.
Such are that "crept in unaware", having a good premise, but denying the power and the Creator.
These will, ironically, have no tolerance for those that do not conform, all the while proclaiming "peace" and "life."
---micha9344 on 5/20/14


What do you all think?

Patient - Whenever I put my hand on the stove it burns what do I do?

Doctor - Do not put your hand on the stove.

You read it. Don't focus on Satan it just gives him a foot hold. Just know when satan (or his demons) comes test the spirit and lean on Jesus.
---Scott1 on 5/20/14


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