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Eliphaz Bilad Zophar

Who were these three man Eliphaz, Bildad, and Zophar?

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Very cool, Leon! Enjoy your day.
---love.jesus on 6/14/14


No, thank you Love! I too learned something via your explanation. :) For me it's always exciting when precious little nuggets of Bible wisdom are uncovered to make clearer our understanding of the whole of Scripture. I believe accurate history makes present day events less of a mystery.

Bildad was a descendant of Abraham & Ketura (Abe's 2nd wife after Sarah's death), through their son Shuah.

Note: While Abraham left everything to Isaac, he made grants to his sons by his concubine [wife of a lesser degree] during his lifetime, and sent them east [Arabia] away from Isaac.

Zophar's home was a locality somewhere east of the Jordan, perhaps in Arabia.
---Leon on 6/14/14


They were three who told Job a bunch of crap about our father. Wile Job repented to God for not knowing the truth about God. Those three men thought they were right. They had to go to Job, for offering to God for their ignorance. Try the book of Job chapter, 42.
---Bryan on 6/14/14


Leon, Thank you for motivating me to check further. Uz and Edom are mentioned in Scripture as being the same place (Lamentations 4:21). It is hard to identify the hometowns of Bildad and Zophar. So it is definitely possible they were not Edomites. But perhaps they lived Edom, because they accompanied Bildad to visit job. I learned something here. Many thanks, Leon.
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


"They were all Edomites, including Job. Perhaps Eliphaz was Esau's son..."
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


Interesting Love. For certain Eliphaz, being the 1st born son of Esau, definitely was an Edomite. But, would you please explain how you concluded Job & his other two friends (Bildad & Zophar) were also Edomites. Thx! :)
---Leon on 6/13/14




They were all Edomites, including Job. Perhaps Eliphaz was Esau's son..
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


Have you figured out who these three guys are yet? And then find out what happen to them."
---Bryan on 6/6/14

The Three Amigos...Three Musketeers, Curly, Larry...See no evil...What are you implying & where are you going with this Bryan? :)
---Leon on 6/7/14


WHO DO YOU SAY THEY ARE BRYAN?
---Leon on 6/13/14


Dear Steven,
I also say that you are wrong, and here is why.
God tells us in His word that we are saved by grace through faith. And you turn around and say, it is not true, that God's promise of salvation is a lie. That He really does not save us. That we have to do something in order to be saved. Did He say you had to do something to be saved? No. He ask you to believe in His promise by faith. And what do you do? You do not have faith in the promise of God. You lack faith in God Steven, if you believed by faith, you would trust God not man. But you don't. It is written all over your answers, no faith in the Lord. Agape
---Luke on 6/13/14


Leon: "Steveng: You've obviously been programmed to think as you do despite what the Bible says to the contrary. So be it... "

Instead of plainly saying I am wrong, you have one hundred more words to prove that I am wrong - using bible verses.
---Steveng on 6/10/14


2Ti 3:4 ...lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God,
2Ti 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof...
2Ti 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
-These verse sound more like "never was" rather than "once was."
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Mat 13:18 Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
---micha9344 on 6/10/14




Steveng: You've obviously been programmed to think as you do despite what the Bible says to the contrary. So be it ~ peace!
---Leon on 6/10/14


Don't forget about Elihu...they were all very religious men who thought they had all the answers about God, Who He is and how He does things.

Most of what they said was very accurate. They sound like many church messages today and perhaps as some on these blogs. Furthermore, as the book of Job reveals, they didn't see the big picture, they misrepresented God, and they didn't understand Job. They had an answer for everything, they knew it all, and they condemned Job for anything he tried to explain.
---Rod4Him on 6/10/14


Leon: "Steveng: Falling away/backsliding isn't loosing one's salvation."

You bet it is. Why then does the bible warn people about backsliding/falling from the faith? What about the christians who once had faith but turned back to their old selves because of adversity or Satan's traps of worldly things? (and don't tell me that they weren't saved in the first place because the bible say they did and fell away for many reasons) Read: Matthew 24:12 (even christian's love will wax cold), 2 Timothy 3:1-7 (any one of these items can a christian fall back on)
---Steveng on 6/9/14


Cliff, Cliff, Cliff! :) FYI, "Christians" don't run in packs. Wolves (dogs) run in packs! Sheep congregate in "flocks". Get with the program ~ the Bible!!! It'll do wonders for what you believe!
---Leon on 6/9/14


Leon, I notice you separate yourself from the pack by saying"true Christians" (which includes you, right?)
You can't tell the players without a program.
My brother-in-law graduated from Pentecostal bible school,sings int the Baptist and Pentecostal Churches. His son-in-law,married 6 years, has never been in his house because it is a disgrace. He says it's his wife's duty to keep the house tidy and off he goes in his $75,000 airplane for pleasure! He believes he's a born again true Christian, I believe he's a nut case!
---1st_cliff on 6/9/14


"Leon, there's an old adage that goes 'If you live long enough you'll see everything.' I've lived a long time & have seen much, some that still amazes me!
My mother-in-law is a religious fanatic who has her TV on Christian satellite 24/7 & doesn't...turn the sound down when we visit!...I have to [bite] my tongue, because if I tell her that Jesus said 'a wicked & adulterous generation keeps looking for a sign,but there will be no sign but the sign of Jonah' I'll be in deep do do!"
---1st_cliff on 6/8/14


Cliff: Ask the Lord to word your mouth with gentleness & humility so you can speak Bible truth to her in a way she'll hear, receive it & not drag you thru "the mud". :D (2 Tim. 4:2)
---Leon on 6/8/14


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amen Leon. your words are 100% true. not many people believe that. there are too many everlasting, forever's and eternals to believe any other way.
---shira4368 on 6/8/14


Leon,There's an old adage that goes "If you live long enough you'll see everything"
I've lived a long time and have seen much, some that still amazes me!
My mother-in-law is a religious fanatic who has her TV on Christian satellite 24/7 and doesn't even turn the sound down when we visit!
Quoting the televangelists is on to me about the "blood moons"..I have to bight my tongue, because if I tell her that Jesus said "a wicked and adulterous generation keeps looking for a sign,but there will be no sign but the sign of Jonah" I'll be in deep do do!"
---1st_cliff on 6/8/14


Steveng: Falling away/backsliding isn't loosing one's salvation. It's periodically yielding to temptation & thereby sinning. Like King David, when (not if) this happens to "real Christians", we should recognize our fallen condition , quickly repent & be restored by the Lord.

I agree, many are self-deluded, Christians IN NAME ONLY. But, even they can't loose salvation because they never had it!

Yes, for true believers, ONCE SAVED ~ ALWAYS SAVED! When we genuinely repent of our sins & believe on Jesus as Savior & Lord, we are SAVED FOREVER!

Note: This has nothing to do with treasures one has stored in heaven. Some of us will have more, others considerably less based upon how we lived on earth.
---Leon on 6/8/14


Cliff: Please read my comments to Steveng. There's always consequences for sin whether or not one is truly a Christian or truly not!

I hope, in your heart, you'll really want to understand the simple truth of the matter. It's not as complicated as you're trying to make it. :)
---Leon on 6/8/14


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Leon: "The Bible doesn't teach salvation can be taken away or lost!"

On the contrary, the bible has many warnings about "falling away" and "backsliding." One must have faith in the beginning before they can fall away from it, right? Luke 8:13

Many will fall away from the faith in the coming years which will reveal the antichrist. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 The great end time delusion is when christians think they are christians, but are not. Satan has had over two thousand years to infiltrate and pollute the church and divide it up into tens of thousands of worldly denominations each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. Daniel 11:31-32
---Steveng on 6/8/14


Leon, So you're saying that when a person is born again (regenerated /saved) cannot be disqualified for robbery,adultery murder etc.??
Or you're going to say "Oh he was never saved in the first place", right?
---1st_cliff on 6/7/14


Cliff: The true/right preacher says only what the Bible, by the leading of God (the Holy Spirit) instructs him to say. It's not a matter of one man's opinion over another! It's all about believing & by faith taking God at His word! "True believers" are born again (spirit regenerated/SAVED) when we first believe Jesus is who the Bible says He is. (Jn. 3:3-7 ~ Titus 3:5) The Bible doesn't teach salvation can be taken away or lost! However, to use an oxymoron, for ages the world has been full of "un-saved christians", i.e., people who are christian in name only BECAUSE they didn't believe & receive Jesus as Savior & Lord according to what the Bible teaches.
---Leon on 6/7/14


"Have you figured out who these three guys are yet? And then find out what happen to them."
---Bryan on 6/6/14


The Three Amigos...Three Musketeers, Curly, Larry...See no evil...What are you implying & where are you going with this Bryan? :)
---Leon on 6/7/14


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Leon, One problem with your theory....A born again washed in the blood evangelical preacher says HS revealed to him, once saved always saved...ah but another born again washed in the blood evangelical preacher says HS revealed to him...you cah lose your salvation!
Will the true one please stand up!!!
Obviously there's more imagination to this than substance !
---1st_cliff on 6/7/14


cliff here is the logic in the bible. Your words out of your on mouth guide your life. Don't have to believe me just look back over your on life and see you have went were your every on words have took you. They have told you what to believe and why. Nothing new about it people have been doing it way before you and I were born.
---Bryan on 6/6/14


Have you figured out who these three guys are yet? And then find out what happen to them.
---Bryan on 6/6/14


Cliff: Demonically destructive religious zealots who follow the teachings of hell & backwater religionist who erroneously misinterpret scripture, apart from the leading of God, the Holy Spirit, are examples of man made religions at their absolute worst. People like that don't demonstrate faith. Rather, they practice acts of foolishness. We all would do well to ask God to reveal (tell us) "His truth". He then will adequately give it provided we seek & not doubt His word. No man can figure God out! Only God reveals (shows) Himself to people who earnestly seek to know Him on the terms "He" has set for us, i.e., His written word (the Bible).
---Leon on 6/5/14


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Leon, You make it sound easy and your benevolence is appreciated!
Who can doubt the faith of a person who straps explosives to their body and blows up "infidels" following written words of a believed prophet!
This is done without "logic" or proof of reward!
How many snake handlers have died following Mark 16 (in scripture) thinking that it was "God's word"?
Leon, the onus is on all of us individuals to find the truth, seeking and understanding exactly what God
requires of us for salvation!
---1st_cliff on 6/5/14


I was not mentioning anything about Job's friends.

Was Noah a real person?

Was Daniel a real person?

If so, then Job was a real person for the Lord says that all three lived as He lives.
---Steveng on 6/5/14


I hope you'll reconsider (have a change of heart) Cliff. There is something that surpasses human logic: FAITH! (Hebrews 11:1 & 6) Please have faith in God Cliff! Don't lean on your finite (limited) intellect. (Pv. 3:5-6) At best, what you're trying to do is as fruitless as a two year old child trying to pit his under-developed intellect (understanding) against that of the smartest mensa member.
---Leon on 6/5/14


I know we've been here many times before Cliff but, your "mortal brain" is no more than the physical house for your "immortal mind" (spirit/soul). (Phil. 2:5)

God doesn't give us freedom of religion. Here in the USA the U.S. Constitution guarantees that. Unfortunately, you Canadians no longer have religious freedom.

From cover-to-cover God (in His recorded word: the Bible) has gives us "freedom of choice" wherein we can freely believe (by faith in Him) or hazardously choose to reject His truth (by trusting ourselves intellectually).
---Leon on 6/5/14


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Leon, That's what freedom of religion is all about !
I'll never tell you what to believe, I just state what I believe and why!
Every piece of information is processed in the brain, accept it or reject it, but one should know "why".
If it's not logical my brain cannot accept it!
---1st_cliff on 6/5/14


Steven, there is truth in what you say.

For me, it also teaches that one does not stay right with God by keeping the law, as Job's friends implied.
---love.jesus on 6/4/14


Job was a real person.

God says so himself. Job was one of three men mentioned by God that they lived as God lives and that they shall deliver their own souls by their righteousness.
---Steveng on 6/4/14


"...you're saying JOB was placed in the canon (by who knows who) leather bound in book form...makes it... "God's word"?...Is...Esther inspired? Many scholars believe it is also a "story"..."
---1st_cliff on 6/3/14


Clifford: In the words of your favorite apostle, Paul, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God..." (2 Tim. 3:16-17) In other words, it's God who has caused the binding together of the whole canon (66 books) of scripture.

"Many scholars" aren't born again Bible believers. "Many" are pharisaical atheist!

You believe the Bible is man corrupted. I believe, despite corrupt men, God's Bible record is perfect according to His purposes.
---Leon on 6/4/14


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Cliff,the Words of God are true, divine and a roadmap for us to learn. Sorry you don't honor your bible. I honor every word that God said.
---shira4368 on 6/4/14


love.jesus : "Putting aside for the moment the origin of the story of Job, what does it have to teach us today? "

The story of Job teaches people how to endure unto the end. James 5:11 Today's chritians are not able to endure that is why the tribulation in which end-time christians is to have a hard time keeping their faith.
---Steveng on 6/3/14


Leon ,Ok. so you're saying that it (JOB) was placed in the canon (by who knows who) leather bound in book form, with guild edges makes it automatically "God's word" ?
**the entire bible is His record**
The bible is not "a" book , but a collection of books,how many depends on which version
Is the book of Esther inspired? it doesn't mention God's name ! Many scholars believe it is also a "story"
The bible is not a holy idol!
---1st_cliff on 6/3/14


Let's look at this story God did not kill anybody. He said Job was righteous. satan said let me smack him around I'll show you he is not righteous. Who's domain is Job in who has power on the earth at this time In Job's life? God has limits he can only do things according to his word. Job said the things I fear? Is fear a good seed to planet in your life? Then stop planting it in your life. Plant the Gospel it's fruit is life.
---Bryan on 6/3/14


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Putting aside for the moment the origin of the story of Job, what does it have to teach us today?
---love.jesus on 6/3/14


"Leon, The story isn't credible! Disposing of a human family as an object lesson is bizarre...Who's recording this dialogue as it happens?..."
---1st_cliff on 6/3/14


Therefore YOU've spoken on the matter & made the determination? Come on Cliff, really?! Was the disposition of Achan & his family also an allegory? (Joshua 7) What about the disposition of Haman & his sons? (Book of Esther) Also an allegory?

WHO? Who else but GOD since the entire Bible is His "record" of human events.

You have a long track record of cutting out of the Bible parts you don't like, e.g., the writings of the Apostle Paul. Well Cliff, IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT! :)
---Leon on 6/3/14


Leon, The story isn't credible!
Disposing of a human family as an object lesson is bizarre .
It ends up that Job's girls were better looking than the 1st ones, is some kind of reward?
Who's recording this dialogue as it happens?
It's a story! (about not giving in to pressure)
---1st_cliff on 6/3/14


Why do you believe that Cliff?
---Leon on 6/2/14


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I believe it's allegorical !
---1st_cliff on 6/2/14


I was mistaken in my first post on this one. The bible clearly says where they came from.
---Rita_H on 6/2/14


They were Job's "friends." They represented the normative teachings of legalism. God condemned them.
---love.jesus on 6/1/14


They were Job's three friends. (Job 2:11)
---Leon on 6/2/14


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They are the three men referred to as 'Job's Comforters' but they did little comforting from what we read about them.

If you are actually asking where did they come from, what did they do etc. I don't know and I don't know if that information is in the bible. If it is I missed it but would be pleased to be pointed in the right direction.
---Rita_H on 6/2/14


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