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What Is Our Problem

If God so loved the world that he gave us his only son. His only son who created all things, in Heaven and earth. What is our problem?

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 ---Bryan on 6/5/14
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Bryan, it is time that you just ask questions. Sit back and learn the correct views on the things you think.

I hope in your personal life you have no influence over anyone. Your spiritual views border on the satanic.

It is time you learned the complete correct truth.

The Biblical concepts you have spoke on is totally in error.

You don't understand God or His power. Let us help you.
---Elder on 6/15/14


Cluny there maybe hope for you yet. He had to give up his place in heaven to become a man. But he did recieve a greater calling for that sacrifice. I never said he lost his his ablity to. I said he stop using the word. He said he "Could" call a legion of angels. Did he? So he laid down his life. He gave up that battle to give us his victory. He was defeat for three days
---Bryan on 6/15/14


\\He had to give up. To die, he had to stop being God\\

Wrong again as in EVERYTHING you say, Bryan.

Jesus didn't HAVE to do anything.

And He NEVER forsook His divine nature. Instead it was joined to our human nature never to be separated so we could be saved.

As the Bible says, "Jesus Christ the same: yesterday, today, and forever."

So here's just ONE MORE CASE where you are NOT sowing the Word of God but your own words.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/14


Bryan said: " He had to give up. To die, he had to stop being God in order to be crucified on the cross for us. He was defeat in that battle but the war he won hands up."

Bryan, this is wrong on so many levels. Jesus did not give up being God just because He died on the Cross. Not for one second did Jesus even think about giving up being God. Rather, it was His death that made Him master over death!

Pray for me!
the unworthy monk Brendan
---Monk_Brendan on 6/15/14


Bryan, Jesus was NOT defeated in that battle. What He did He did willingly. No-one TOOK His life - He GAVE it.
---Rita_H on 6/15/14




Bryan, Show 3 verses where scripture says Jesus was defeated at the cross. My bible says satan was defeated at the cross. May want to brush up on Hebrews 2.

And please find any verse Jesus once stopped being GOD. Just because God was made flesh doesn't mean He for one moment stopped being God.

Your Jesus is not the Jesus of scripture Bryan.

I asked you a question a couple days ago, and you never answered. Were YOU defeated when you were crucified with Christ? ...(Galatians 2:20, and Romans 6). Do you DIE DAILY Brian. If you say YES, tell us HOW. Are you being made conformable to His death ( Phil 3). If you say YES, tell us HOW. If You say no.....then stop preaching a false gospel.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/14


Bryan , Hebrews 2 should sow the truth in.....until Copeland snatches it away.

9 But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour, that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings.-14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same, that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil,15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
---kathr453 on 6/15/14


He had to give up. To die, he had to stop being God in order to be crucified on the cross for us. He was defeat in that battle but the war he won hands up.
---Bryan on 6/14/14


Jesus was never defeated...never. Everything He did was in obedience to God. Jesus knew He would be crucified and He willingly suffered for you and me.
---shira4368 on 6/14/14


Bryan, since you are on this kick of Jesus failing tell us which side of Hell did Jesus go to? Do you know? Do you know there was two sides to Hell?

What did Jesus do while He was in Hell? What happened to Hell when He arose?

Where was the rich man, Abraham and Jesus located at in Hell?

Comic book theology will not work or help you answer these questions!
---Elder on 6/14/14




\\How do you think Jesus end up in hell?\\

Jesus BORROWED death, something foreign to His divine nature from His human nature and WILLINGLY went to the underworld.

Are you so deluded as to think that the devil could FORCE God Incarnate to do anything?

You definitely are NOT sowing the Word of God in this matter, Bryan.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/13/14


"To Bro. Leon your post 6/10/14
all respect.to you,got to say that I certainly agree with your post. 6/10/14
Love of Jesus! Elena 9555"
---Elena9555 on 6/13/14


Praise God for His truth Elena. All glory & honor belongs to Him alone. If at any time you believe I've gotten it wrong, please let me know right away. Thx & God's blessings be upon you always!
---Leon on 6/13/14


How do you think Jesus end up in hell? There is a point were he did not answer a word. He did say he could call legion of angels. And if he would have there probably be no Rome today. But when he was proven to be sin free he stripped satan of his authority. And kicked open the gates of hell and came to earth to show us he is alive.
---Bryan on 6/13/14


When Jesus did not say a word it is the only time he was defeated in this life.

---Bryan on 6/11/14


Unbelievable!!!! What on earth is your basis for this remark. It was God's WILL that Jesus die for our sin. And Jesus willingly laid down His own life. He was NOT defeated. OH Bryan...please run like hell away from these false teachers.

The Preaching of the CROSS is foolishness to those who are perishing...and it appears Bryan YOU have no clue what happened at the cross to make such a horrible remark...you no doubt are just repeating from that false prophet Copeland. So the Idea that you are CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST means defeat to you as well??? You're saved no other way Bryan. "IT IS FINISHED?"
---kathr4453 on 6/13/14


The Bible speaks in 1Tim.4:1 these are false doctrines.Jesus was NEVER defeated. I agree with our Bro.Adetunji and anyone else who uphold the truth. Jesus was never Defeated!
I went althrough my Bible and Jesus infact told Peter he would give him the keys to the
(Mt. 16:19)kingdom.

for years I.remember hearing in the church we went to they used to.say " Jesus holds the keys to kingdom,death and the grave"
Jesus in No way was defeated.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 6/13/14


Sounds like Bryan sits at the feet of Kenneth Copeland Elder.
---Leon on 6/12/14


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To Bro. Leon your post 6/10/14
all respect.to you,got to say that
I certainly agree with your post. 6/10/14

Love of Jesus! Elena 9555
---Elena9555 on 6/13/14


Bryan, where are you getting your information from?

You said Satan dragged Jesus to Hell and Jesus was defeated.

For your correct information there was never a time that Jesus was not in complete control. He was never defeated or forced.

What's next Bryan?
---Elder on 6/12/14


\\How do you think satan was able to drag Jesus to hell?\\

Where did you get the foolish notion that Satan could make Jesus do anything?

The Savior said, "No one takes my life. I voluntarily lay it down."

And as far as His descent IN INFERNIS, as the Orthodox sing,
'
Christ is risen from the dead, trampling down death by death, and upon those in the tomb bestowing life.

And as it is written, "The silence of the wise is more precious than the prattling of fools."

You need to learn basic Christian doctrine, Bryan.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/12/14


How do you think satan was able to drag Jesus to hell? Cause after Jesus was in hell. What did he do to satan? He stripped him of his authority. How did he do it by the power of word. That same word is given to mankind all mankind it has the authority now. "Jesus" all authority in heaven and earth. Who has it and were is Jesus at? At the right hand of the father and also in your heart.
---Bryan on 6/12/14


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Jesus I could call a legion of angels. Did he? If he would have used the word there would be no Rome. He did the will of God. We have the word and it works. Even in ways you may no want to, but it works. Even when you think it is not it is. It produces life or death.
---Bryan on 6/12/14


Bryan : i also disagree with your statement that the Lord was defeated. You're not correct on that.
---Adetunji on 6/12/14


Willow, you got that right. There are a lot of damaged egos around here. That is why there are so many personal attacks. "Love is patient, love is kind..." But love is missing here..
---love.jesus on 6/11/14


\\When Jesus did not say a word it is the only time he was defeated in this life.\\

Wrong answer, but thank you for playing.

Where did you ever get the heretical notion that Jesus was ever defeated, Bryan?

Now I KNOW you're not sowing God's word but rather your own.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/12/14


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Cluny you do it all the time "you don't know the word" you can't believe that way it is wrong" your words cluny your words. The truth is you can believe any way you wish that's the word cluny that's Jesus. God gave us his word on it. See your religion tells you to tell people they can't believe certain ways anymore. If the Gospel is sowed their thinking changes to following the word "Jesus". Not by telling them their wrong. God did not say it dark I think it is getting darker did he? He said let there be LIGHT.
---Bryan on 6/12/14


Bryan, saying nothing does not show that someone has been defeated. Sometimes it shows great wisdom.

Jesus was NEVER defeated. Please understand that even if you understand nothing else.

He knew IN ADVANCE every word that would be said and every action that would be taken against Him.

He did exactly what He had been sent into the world to do.
---Rita_H on 6/12/14


Duck and cover cluny. Jesus is a giver. He gives and gives and gives and gives until you or over flowing and he just keeps giving. And giving and to say he doesn't that takes courage. even Pontius Pilate who was the judge of Jesus said I fine no fault with this man you. The only way to defeat the word is not to us it. When Jesus did not say a word it is the only time he was defeated in this life.
---Bryan on 6/11/14


\\then quit saying that people do these things are arrogant self righteous they're following Jesus\\

Now I know you're lying, Bryan. I never said this.

The only excuse for your attack statement is that English is not your first language and you don't understand what you read in English.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/10/14


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Cluny now your back paddling? You say out of your on mouth. You get angry when people tell people what Jesus gives them. We are to eidify and exhort, to good works, there are a lot of things that would qualify as a good work, feed hunger people, help the fatherless, help the elderly, helping the poor, pray for the sick and afflicted for them to be healed good works? then quit saying that people do these things are arrogant self righteous they're following Jesus
---Bryan on 6/10/14


what is wrong? Just look at the "christains who attack each other on this page alone" we are a people who become offended so easily. that is the biggest problem people wanting there opinions above others does any one pray before they respond or during? the pagans see us cutting eachers throats why would they want to be part of that.. just my thoughts
---Willow on 6/10/14


To give an example, on another site, the blogger said his late mother would "sow dippers".

It took further reading to realize he was trying to say "sew diapers."

However, this writer has an excuse: English is not his first language.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/10/14


A great writer--I think it was Mark Twain--said, "The difference between the right word and almost the right word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug."

It is possible to misspell so many words that the meaning is lost.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/10/14


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"If God so loved the world that he gave us his only son. His only son who created all things, in Heaven and earth. What is our problem?

The problem here, & elsewhere in the world, is individual self-righteousness & unconfessed SIN!

---Leon on 6/10/14


\\I don't say to you God does not do those thinks any more\\

Nor have I said it to you (if you mean "things" and not "thinks"), contrary to your slander against me quoted above.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/9/14


How long must you people keep bickering about something so inconsequential as a misspelt word? This issue went from a molehill to Mount Everest.
---Steveng on 6/9/14


Dear Bryan,
If you understand all the things you say, why are you not happy? You should be so happy everyday. But you are not, you want everyone to be like you are, a Pentecostal, who has to speak in a tongue, who believes that you have the power of Christ, in fact, more things you say you will do then what He did. And of course, we do not believe you. Yet you should be happy anyway, but you are not, why?Agape
---Luke on 6/10/14


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Obviously there are things in the word you have not faith for. I don't get angry and tell you your wrong. I don't say to you God does not do those thinks any more. I have faith My God is able. I underdtand what Jesus has given us. I understand what he gave us though his death and resurrection.
---Bryan on 6/9/14


It is rare for anyone to be always correct or for anyone to always be wrong so we all need to show more love and patience with each.
---Rita_H on 6/9/14

Sounds wonderful and correct :)

I have found that when you pray for patience and love of others, you are in for trouble! It is like the old saying:

I asked for courage and God gave me dangers to overcome.

I asked for patience and God placed me in situations where I was forced to wait.

I asked for love and God gave me troubled people to help.

I received nothing I wanted, but I received everything I needed.
---Mark_Eaton on 6/9/14


\\When parts of Jesus don't agree with your religion you turn to flesh.\\

I know one part of Jesus that YOU don't agree with.

It's the part where He healed only ONE man who lay by the Pool of Bethsaida.

And He did NOTHING about the lame beggar who lay by the Beautiful Gate of the Temple, either.

Can you answer why?

BTW--how are all those amputees you've been praying for? Have they grown new limbs yet?

And have you pulled any corpses out of their caskets?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/9/14


Mark Eaton 6.5.14 "First, we have believers who speak out as if they speak for the whole of Christianity or for God. We need to be reminded that they are only giving their private opinions."

Yes Mark, we do tend to do that a lot and it's because we all wish to be CORRECT.

It is rare for anyone to be always correct or for anyone to always be wrong so we all need to show more love and patience with each. Without listening to others we never learn anything new.
---Rita_H on 6/9/14


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Cluny do you sow the Gospel? When parts of Jesus don't agree with your religion you turn to flesh. Why? If your religion is the Gospel it will prove it's self. Jesus does not need me to fight for him he just said, "follow me.
---Bryan on 6/9/14


\\Oh cluny even when the Gospel is given to you, anger is not sowing the Gospel.\\

Where did you get the idea you were giving me the Gospel, Bryan?

When you mix up different Bible stories, as you are doing, you've obviously run out of God's words and are giving your own.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/9/14


Oh cluny even when the Gospel is given to you, anger is not sowing the Gospel. John 9 Jesus told a man after he put mud in his eyes to go wash the mud off. And when the man who was blind did as Jesus said he received his sight. Act of faith in the word "Jesus".
---Bryan on 6/9/14


What is our problem?
---Bryan on 6/5/14

I believe what we have seen in this blog for the last 25 posts illustrate a problem with us.

We are critical, judgmental, and arrogant. We delight in showing our superiority and delight in correcting someone whenever they are wrong.

We must let Christ become our core, our character, who we are everywhere, and forgive others without opening our mouths and shooting off our brains. We must become concerned with others more than ourselves and love them with the same love we have been given by God.

I believe Cluny has been chastised enough.
---Mark_Eaton on 6/9/14


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Hello,thanks Sis.Rita,all respect,you know this church met the most nicest people.They don't gossip,if there any problems we go into prayer! I love the pastor's wife,she is serious mature not like pastor wives who are jealous,caniving,always looking for trouble.They both are in agreenent on things. That's how married people should be not divided always,secrets..my opinion.
She always talks nice,she able get her points across & understanding.
Yes,it really a change..
We have lots of fun.It's a joy to.go.there.
---Elena9555 on 6/9/14


==Cluny you need to repent John chapter 9 verses one through eight should cover the washing part where Jesus said go wash to a blind man in dirty water and then go show yourself to the priest as a witness of the power of the word.==

Bryan, YOU were the one who claimed Jesus told someone to wash in a river.

He did not.

Now you're trying to cover your ignorance.

And there's nothing in John 9 to suggest the water in the pool was dirty. Try again.

And you're confusing the the story of the blind man with the story of the healing of the lepers.

I will repeat what I said: You cannot possibly sow the true Word if you don't even know it yourself!

Happy Pentecost!
---Cluny on 6/8/14



Darlene, I sure understand that. I received a "battle injury" while working on a piece of equipment that was still running. A belt knocked my hand into a guide plate that cut my hand open like a razor.

Now sometimes when trying to punch PC keys my third finger will jump/move and I completely miss the key I'm after.

I know a wonderful cook but no one will eat her food. She has become unkempt, her dishes are not well washed and her house and kitchen is a complete mess. The ability is still there but very few take the chance on the food served.

Cluny is the same way. He has a lot to offer but not many want it because his "cooking and dining room" is a wreck.
---Elder on 6/8/14


Elena, I am so pleased to hear how happy you are in your current church. I am the same and have never felt as welcome as I am in the one I attend now. Everyone seems to love everyone else - no cliques or people looking down on others. From varying backgrounds we all just blend together. I feel that God is pleased when this is so and I'm sure that He is displeased with churches where people feel 'left out'.
---Rita_H on 6/8/14


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Elder thank you for taking up for others. This is a strange thing which happened to me about four years ago and concerns spelling. I fell backward when an office chair rolled out from under me as I sit down and I got a really hard bump on the back of my head when I fell and hit my head on a built in China cabinet. The next time I wrote anything after that I often transposed letters in words I still am doing it after this length of time. So an injury can affect spelling or such disorders as Dyslexia. No one should ever be condemned because they have a word not spelled right. God Bless them all. God can still read it. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/8/14


Cluny you need to repent John chapter 9 verses one through eight should cover the washing part where Jesus said go wash to a blind man in dirty water and then go show yourself to the priest as a witness of the power of the word.
---Bryan on 6/8/14


\\Cluny you have issues that are logs compared to spelling errors. \\

Name one.

\\Quit talking down to people cluny your not superior to any of us.\\

Nor are you, Bryan.

Happy Pentecost!
---Cluny on 6/8/14


Cluny what do you call it when you miss-spell words?

What causes the people you have addressed to make errors in their spelling? The fact is you don't know. Therefore you are judging in unrighteousness. I'd rather be guilty of spelling errors.

This is also an example of your hateful answers to other bloggers. You asked, on another blog, for me to show you these examples so here is another one.

So really, what do you think you are accomplishing by your uncalled for rebukes?
---Elder on 6/8/14


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Cluny, I know homeless people that have more faith in their pinkie that you do in your entire body. Do you think your hatefull words edify and encourage the people you write and talk to? Is this what they teach you in your worldly orthodox church?

You claim that you know the bible, but you must have blinked when reading these verses:

James 1:26
Psalms 52:2
Proverbs 21:23
Ephesians 4:29
Colossians 4:6
Proverbs 15:1
Proverbs 12:18
Proverbs 18:21
Proverbs 11:9
James 3:5
Psalms 34:13
Proverbs 16:27-29
Ephesians 5:4

Matthew 12:37

And remember this one, Cluny:
Deuteronomy 5:20
---Steveng on 6/8/14


Bryan all due respect for your your opinion but I must correct one thing you said about faith,"We all have the same measure of faith". Not even God's people are completely even we don't have the same measure. Think about it you know that a Babe in Christ certainly doesn't have as much faith as a seasoned Christian. Faith grows with every prayer answered,every miracle we see,the move of God upon His people. I'm not meddling what you said to Cluny but the rest I agree with. God blesses each Christian with the Spiritual equipment to serve Him and what is good for the kingdom of God. I will say this God doesn't care about any of our academic education unless it is a hinderance to His Kingdom. God cares about the Spiritual. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/8/14


Praise the Living God! You know the enemy hates when Christians get together and start to for real LOVE one another..forget about our faults.
Well bless God,I've seen" the devil turn & had to walk out our church doors."..
Our pastors,deacons always pray Lord cast out hindering spirits...

Spirits that you will cause disention & havoc among the believers
Love of Jesus!
..
---Elena9555 on 6/8/14


I have pet verses? So Jesus is now just a pet in your eye? Cluny you have issues that are logs compared to spelling errors. Quit talking down to people cluny your not superior to any of us. We all have the same measure of faith. When you see that truth your heart toward man will change. We are all disciples. We are all taught by the word. There is nothing made that isn't made by him.
---Bryan on 6/8/14


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Hello, much respect goes out to Sis.Rita,Shira4368,most everyone on.here",hit the nail on the head"good spelling,gimmicks don't get people out to church,oh if we could love like Jesus love! I found a church,that accepts me just as I am and I didn't know what kIind of church they were.. I told my sister's
"God bless when my back gets better,I want to be a cleaning the floor,in the house of the lord!" Yall been so kind to me..pastor's wife said "we want you to sing!" All,we ask of you here..
I love these people,tears just fall from my eye's they are so loving to us all..I never seen a church like this one.
---Elena9555 on 6/8/14


Cluny, such love you have for the weakness of others. (sarcasm intended)
---Steveng on 6/7/14


\\Spelling perfectly does not make you righteous\\

But it does keep you from appearing like a total ignoramus and doofus.

---Cluny on 6/7/14

It hasn't helped you any cluny
You know nothing of spiritual things but you know all about spelling
---Observer on 6/7/14


\\Spelling perfectly does not make you righteous\\

Neither do your pitiful attempts to claim spiritual superiority make up for your fuzziness of thought and ignorance of Scripture, Bryan.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/7/14


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Cluny:

I consider language to be an essential tool for communication, and it's important to have good tools, and to use them properly. When I was younger (say, in my twenties), I used to be a spelling and grammar Nazi, but I eventually grew up. I realized that not everyone is as well educated, nor may have as good a command of language - their gifts may lie in other areas.

I also find, as I am getting older, that I make more and more spelling and grammar mistakes, and sometimes these manage to slip through. I hope nobody judges me too harshly for them, as I try not to judge them for theirs.
---StrongAxe on 6/7/14


\\Spelling perfectly does not make you righteous\\

But it does keep you from appearing like a total ignoramus and doofus.

You seem to know your dozen pet verses very well, but you don't say anything about the other verses that don't fit your doctrines that I bring up.

Why?
---Cluny on 6/7/14


There are many things more important than a misspelled word. I would miss a lot if I spent a lot of time worrying about spelling. You have no right telling adults they spelled a word wrong. I have seen the word "there" used where "their" was the correct word. Who am I to correct that person?
---shira4368 on 6/7/14


Cluny, the brain can figure out a lot of things. But faith it can't rap itself around. Spelling perfectly does not make you righteous walking by faith, trusting in the word, sharing the Gospel, learning to receive and then sharing what the Lord has done for you that is far greater than perfect spelling. As Jesus would say were is your faith? He could have said a few other things. But that is not what the word is for, it is to bring life. Jesus healed people who did not even thank him after they received their healing. Giving, giving, giving, giving that's our Savior.
---Bryan on 6/7/14


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Bryan, please learn to spell.

It will make your posts much more effective, OK?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/6/14


See the problem? See the answer? Look at your words. Share the Gospel it still works.
---Bryan on 6/6/14


cluny who are you to say who believe anything. The every words out of your mouth tales everybody what you don't believe. Jesus said don't judge less you be judge? And if you are judging by the word of God you will be judge by it. So make sure there is no sin any where in you life. Before you start pointing out stickies in other peoples eyes. You know the rest of it I thing you do.
---Bryan on 6/6/14


\\ I fasted and ask Jesus he showed me then he said, "It has been giving to all men". He even said the people in the world use my word more than the children of light.\\

Jesus told me to tell you that you've been listening to an impostor.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/6/14


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Our problem is that people don't love people any more and by not loving people we show that we do not love God in the way we claim that we do. His instruction is to 'love one another as I have loved you'.

People outside the church have no desire to attend these days as they see the unloveliness of those of us who do so.

Gimmicks might attract people into a church but will never KEEP them there.
---Rita_H on 6/6/14


In the words of the great philospher Toby Keith - "I wanna talk about me, Wanna talk about I wanna talk about number one [Me], Oh my me my..."

God in his power and love gave us the choice of obedience which means we daily, even hourly, get the choice to choose his ways or our ways. We being created in the image [a shadow, a reflection] of God gets the desire of power and leadership. Due to our choice of obedience we use these traits [and others] for good and evil.
---Scott1 on 6/6/14


Mark eaton, I agree with every single word you posted.
---shira4368 on 6/5/14


The world despises Christians, and Christians despise the world. It seems to be mutual. Each group thinks it is better than the other. A pity
---love.jesus on 6/5/14


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If Daniel who just want to know why Israel was still in captivity. Fasted for 40 days I'm not talking about Angels fighting. I'm talking about the answer Daniel recieved? God showed him more than just why Israel was still in captivtiy. We have a greater covenant than Daniel. Look what Jesus showed John. I fasted and ask Jesus he showed me then he said, "It has been giving to all men". He even said the people in the world use my word more than the children of light.
---Bryan on 6/5/14


What is our problem?
---Bryan on 6/5/14

Our problem is manifold.

First, we have believers who speak out as if they speak for the whole of Christianity or for God. We need to be reminded that they are only giving their private opinions.

Secondly, the world despises Christ and it despises us. Our best efforts to change the world will fail. Only Jesus will change the world when He returns. We can witness to the ones around us.

Thirdly, we will suffer in this life, from temptation, from the world, and from the fallen nature of sin. Heartache is a fact of life. Love boldly and often to the ones you hold dear and hang onto God no matter what.

Do you need more?
---Mark_Eaton on 6/5/14


I give up, Bryan. What IS your problem, besides knowing only about a dozen verses ripped from their contexts?

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/5/14


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