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David With Many Wives

Why did Bible kings, like David and Solomon, have so many wives?

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\\However, the entire Bible (God's word) speaks loudly against polygamy.\\

Please give an OT reference that forbids polygamy, Leon.

If the entire Bible condemns it, there should be plenty of OT verses you can give us.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/15/14


That's your prejudicial opinion 'Axe. For whatever reason, that's what you want to believe. However, the entire Bible (God's word) speaks loudly against polygamy.

What I've said comes "out of" the Bible (exegesis). I've not read anything "into" it (eisegesis). If only you had the foresight to see & ears to hear you would know that.

I hope one day soon you'll be able to see the beauty of the forest instead of just a clutter of trees. Proverbs 16:24
---Leon on 11/15/14


Leon:

You said: I just pointed out God doesn't operate by our time table when dealing with sin, e.g., polygamy.

Show ONE VERSE ANYWHERE that says polygamy is sin. You are reading your own personal prejudices into scripture - eisegesis, rather than exegesis.
---StrongAxe on 11/14/14


"/Does this mean that Samuel, the son of Hanna, Elkhana's second wife, was not of legitimate birth?\"-Cluny on 11/13/14

Was Hanna Elkanah's second wife or his first?...Elkhana may have married his dead brother's wife as their culture dictated...The account of Samuel's parents [doesn't] condone nor...chastise polygamy. All these polygamy accounts in the Bible are there as examples, not necessarily good one's either."
---micha9344 on 11/14/14

Excellent Micha! By the way Elkanan treated Hanna (1 Sam. 1:4-5) it seems she was his first (primary) wife.

Cluny: Does that satisfy you?
---Leon on 11/14/14


/Does this mean that Samuel, the son of Hanna, Elkhana's second wife, was not of legitimate birth?\-Cluny on 11/13/14
Was Hanna Elkanah's second wife or his first?
As far as we know Hanna did not have 2 husbands, so the transgression, if one exists, would be more to Elkanah than Hanna.
We are not told the circumstances of this, but Elkhana may have married his dead brother's wife as their culture dictated.
Such was the case for Boaz, although he was not currently married at the time.
The account of Samuel's parents does not condone nor does it chastise polygamy.
All these polygamy accounts in the Bible are there as examples, not necessarily good one's either.
---micha9344 on 11/14/14




\\I just pointed out God doesn't operate by our time table when dealing with sin, e.g., polygamy.\\

Does this mean that Samuel, the son of Hanna, Elkhana's second wife, was not of legitimate birth?

You seem to imply that she was living in sin with her putative husband.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/13/14


"...I have no idea how the Lord's perception of the length of a day has anything to do with whether the Bible permits polygamy..."
---StrongAxe on 11/13/14


"...Despite the fact that it was never explicitly authorized...God had many opportunities to complain about it but didn't...[He] never criticiz[ed]...the patriarchs for it..portions of the Law [mention] it [like] it's a common ( & permitted) practice."
---StrongAxe on 10/28/14


'Axe: When you said the patriarchs, who lived over a vast period of TIME, etc., you implied God was slow in dealing with polygamy if He didn't like it. I just pointed out God doesn't operate by our time table when dealing with sin, e.g., polygamy.
---Leon on 11/13/14


Leon:

I have no idea how the Lord's perception of the length of a day has anything to do with whether the Bible permits polygamy. Please enlighten me?
---StrongAxe on 11/13/14


1 Corinthians 7:35 I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.

1 Timothy 4:3-4 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain.

1 Corinthians 7:39 ...she is free to marry anyone she wishes, but he must belong to the Lord.

Numbers 36:6 (NIV) This is what the Lord commands for Zelophehads daughters: They may marry anyone they please as long as they marry within their fathers tribal clan.

Monogamy as a rule is more a teaching of hypocrites. Those who teach it, teach acceptance of multiple partners as long as you divorce where as in the Bible woman is created for man, not man for woman. 1 Corinthians 11:9
---sin5694 on 11/9/14


True Micha! Sin's out of context (twisted) comparison has absolutely nothing to do with polygamy.
---Leon on 11/4/14




1Co 12:14-18 For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body, is it therefore not of the body?
And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body, is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.
In context, when I married my wife, her parts came with her, hands, feet, eyes, ears, mouth...
1Co 12:20 is not talking about many bodies, but many parts.
Rom 12:5 So we, [being] many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
Eph 4:4, Rev 21:9
---micha9344 on 11/4/14


"1 Corinthians 12:20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it."

Christ definitely has more than one. Who can dispute it? All along, God intended for Christ to have more than one. His death was not just for one. More than one will be with Christ."
---sin5694 on 11/3/14


What you've said is waaaay out of context to what the Bible says about God's actions regarding polygamy. Man's practice of polygamy & God's plan of redemption for all of mankind aren't the same parallel activities. Polygamy & God's plan of salvation are distinctly different things.
---Leon on 11/4/14


1 Corinthians 12:20 As it is, there are many parts, but one body. 27 Now you are the body of Christ, and each one of you is a part of it. Christ definitely has more than one. Who can dispute it? All along, God intended for Christ to have more than one. His death was not just for one. More than one will be with Christ.
---sin5694 on 11/3/14


The Bible clearly shows God dislikes polygamy!
---Leon on 11/1/14

i can't understand what there is to understand. it seems like some are saying because polygamy was "allowed" by God, it was approved at the time.

can anybody tell me from reading Mat 19:4-Mat 19:5 where polygamy was ever in God's plan from the beginning?

In the end, jesus is adorning A bride without spot or wrinkle..not two or more.

yes, polygamy was rampant with many spots and wrinkles.

Despite our weaknesses, God emerges and shows his strength.
---aka on 11/3/14


Adetunji, I never try to win a debate. I just try to reason with bloggers as accurately as I know how.

1.) I didn't say God rejected Israel's children. I said God doesn't approve of polygamy. Israel/Jacob suffered for it.
2.) Regardless of the family consequences, Ishmael was Abraham's son & loving God made provisions for him, & his mother (Hagar).
3.) God disciplined David for having multiple wives by letting him suffer numerous problems within his family, i.e., death of an infant son because of his adultery & the planned murder of Uriah ~ a son raped his half-sister ~ a son murdered his half-brother & later died trying to take away David's throne, etc.

The Bible clearly shows God dislikes polygamy!
---Leon on 11/1/14


Leon: Let's not twist what the Bible says to win debates.
Though monogamy is the ideal :
1) God accepted all the 12 sons of Israel, they were from 4 women.
2) If Hagar did not despise her master Sarah, the peace in the home would have allowed her to stay.
3) God did not blame David for marrying more than 1 wives though he had to bear the extra problems it brought,
---Adetunji on 11/1/14


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" What about 2 Samuel 12:8-9?...God takes credit for giving David his wives."
---sin5694 on 10/31/14


I see how you've interpreted it that God gave to David Saul's wives to be his wives. But, there's at least one other way of seeing it: I believe what God actually said to David was after Saul's death, He had mercifully placed Saul's harem under David's care, not as husband but as protector.

As an aside, David had by then chosen multiple wives contrary to God's one man, one woman rule (G2). I believe God was beginning to make David pay years of severe consequences for having numerous wives. He had the burden of responsibility for his "wives" & for Saul's widowed harem as well.
---Leon on 11/1/14


'Axe:

"For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night." (Ps. 90:4, KJB)

"But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance." (2 Pt. 3: 8-9)
---Leon on 11/1/14


..."What of Ruth 4:11 wherein Ruth and Leah are pronounced a blessing?..."
---sin5694 on 10/31/14


Ruth, chapters 3 & 4, speaks about kinsman redeemer to marry the childless widow of his kin to raise up a child in his name to inherit his possessions. Levirate marriage of a deceased kinsman's widow was authorized/sanctioned, by God, to provide a male heir for the deceased man, thereby protecting the dead man's family inheritance & making provision (protection) for his widow. This can be seen in G38:8-10 where Judah's son Onan was tasked to marry his dead brother's widow.

Naomi & Ruth's comparison to Rachael & Leah, to a degree was similiar, but was vastly different in other aspects.
---Leon on 11/1/14


Samuelbb7, Leon:

While this is true, it does beg the question:

There are so many things that were God's Will, about which he got very specific in the Law of Moses. If monogamy and no divorce were so important, why was God silent about it until 4500 years AFTER Moses?


Leon:

I am not questioning whether polygamy is GOOD - merely whether God allowed it.
---StrongAxe on 10/31/14


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What about 2 Samuel 12:8-9?
"I gave your masters house to you, and your masters wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more. Why did you despise the word of the Lord by doing what is evil in his eyes? You struck down Uriah the Hittite with the sword and took his wife to be your own. You killed him with the sword of the Ammonites."

God takes credit for giving David his wives.

What of Ruth 4:11 wherein Ruth and Leah are pronounced a blessing? Then the elders and all the people at the gate said, We are witnesses. May the Lord make the woman who is coming into your home like Rachel and Leah, who together built up the family of Israel.
---sin5694 on 10/31/14


"Mark 10:4-9 ~ 'And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement...to put her away...Jesus answered & said...For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation God made them male & female. For this cause shall a man leave his father & mother, & cleave to his wife, & [the two] shall be one flesh: so then [they're] no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.'

Humans [haven't] adhered to the ideal GOD wanted & still [don't]...JESUS promotes one man one wife...the opposite has caused many problems."
---Samuelbb7 on 10/29/14


Excellent Samuel!
---Leon on 10/29/14


Mar 10:4-9

And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.
And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.
But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife, and they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

Humans have not adhered to the ideal GOD wanted and still do not. Notice that JESUS promotes one man one wife.

As pointed out following the opposite has caused many problems.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/29/14


'Axe, the Bible (God's word) begs the question of the patriarchs & anyone else who have ears to hear:

Abraham, how did having a child Sarah's way work for you & family? Jacob, so, you didn't get the woman you wanted the first time, but got her on the second go & then you had two wives. How did that work out for you & your dysfunctional family? King David, you married first a princess & then turned your eyes & attention to many other women. How did that work for you & your dysfunctional family? King Solomon, 1,000 wives ~ really?! :) How...?

The Middle East, for millenniums, has been in continuous social dysfunction (turmoil) between ancient kinsmen. The consequences are being felt in the world today.
---Leon on 10/29/14


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Leon:

Despite the fact that it was never explicitly authorized, it very telling that God had many opportunities to complain about it but didn't - including never criticizing any of the patriarchs for it. And portions of the Law speak of it as if it's an common (and permitted) practice.
---StrongAxe on 10/28/14


Strongaxe, Leon said,
//The bottomline is polygamy was never authorized by God no matter who practiced it for whatever reason.//

That is true, God did not authorize polygamy, God did not authorize incest either but God put a stop to that when the Law was given. The same hold true for polygamy, God did not authorize it either. But God did not stop polygamy under the Law. The same hold true for divorce, God never stopped them from divorcing, though on that one Jesus did say that God never meant it to be that way. Divorce was made by man not God.
---Luke on 10/29/14


'Axe: The bottomline is polygamy was never authorized by God no matter who practiced it for whatever reason. Regarding the 1,000 wives, some men have much bigger egos than others. Sometimes it's not a sexual issue but one of being able to manipulate & control others. Again, God never authorized polygamy. His plan is one man, one woman equals marriage. P.S. Though not polygamy (more like consentual adultery) Abraham & Sarah's little plan created a family feud that is still going on today.
---Leon on 10/28/14


Leon:

If you actually look at the patriarchs, most of them did NOT practice polygamy for the purposes of lust. Some of them could not get children from their primary wives, so they took additional ones to continue their family name an inheritance. Jacob took two because he contracted for one, but was swindled with a bait-and-switch, so he worked for both. Some (like David) acquired them as rewards for military victories. Some (like Solomon) took them to cement treaties with other surrounding countries. Do you honestly believe that one man could keep 1000 women satisfied? I would expect that, rather, that would have been quite a headache!
---StrongAxe on 10/28/14


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"Leon: The Bible has no dictionary, so we must rely on third-party sources.[?] I was referring to "for one's personal delight". Where do you get that?..."
---StrongAxe on 10/27/14


'Axe: Men have down thru the ages practiced polygamy to satisfy their sexual as well as political lust (one's personal delights). That's no mystery as history (Bible & otherwise) clearly shows that to be true.
---Leon on 10/28/14


//Aka:I have never said polygamy is "good" - merely that it is nowhere prohibited in scripture.// stongaxe

I know. I was just answering the original question.
---aka on 10/27/14


aka:

I have never said polygamy is "good" - merely that it is nowhere prohibited in scripture. Many people insist that some things are wrong because the Bible condemneds them - while it does no such thing. they need to understand that their views come from somewhere other than scripture.

It's curious, though, that none of the prophets spoke against it, even though they had plenty of opportunity, and they certainly railed about other things. I wonder why they never mentioned it?

Also, wouldn't it be a bit disingenuous of God to give lists of hundreds "thou shalt nots", then have a bunch of other things he hates but doesn't tell us about, just blames us for later anyway?
---StrongAxe on 10/27/14


Having multiple wives is of the world, not of the Spirit.
---micha9344 on 10/27/14

Such can be said of monogamous relationships as well.

1 Timothy 5:11 As for younger widows, when their sensual desires overcome their dedication to Christ, they want to marry.

1 Cor 7:9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

1 Cor 7:32-5 An unmarried man is concerned about the Lords affairshow he can please the Lord. But a married man is concerned about the affairs of this worldhow he can please his wife and his interests are divided. I am saying this for your own good, not to restrict you, but that you may live in a right way in undivided devotion to the Lord.
---sin5694 on 10/27/14


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do you understand that although things are permissible for a time, they are not expedient? they are allowed or tolerated by God, but only temporarily. God will not tolerate this forever and there are repercussions.
---aka on 10/27/14


Mark 10:29-30 And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house...or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, But he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses...and children, and lands, with persecutions, and in the world to come eternal life.
-What? No wives?
Ephesians 5:31-32 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
-Christ only has one bride and we are to model that in marriage.
-Having multiple wives is of the world, not of the Spirit.
---micha9344 on 10/27/14


Leon:

The Bible has no dictionary, so we must rely on third-party sources. I was referring to "for one's personal delight". Where do you get that?


Adetunji:

I speaking of what God actually wrote, not what people read between the lines.

That some people are singled out with a restriction implies that restriction doesn't apply to everyone else.

God made only one wife for Adam, which means that one wife is good. But it does not follow that two are bad. Adam likely had black hair, Does that mean God hates blondes? It's hard to argue policy from a single example.
---StrongAxe on 10/27/14


"...Strongaxe...is following complete biblical law [concerning] polygamy. [It](both biblical & otherwise)...polygamy is having more than one wife... the Bible says nothing about polygamy being wrong in the eyes of God..."
---g on 10/27/14


g: Polygamy was never based upon "God's law" though He permitted men to practice it. That doesn't mean He approved of it any more than He approved of A & E's sin in the Garden. The entire Bible screams against the calamity of polygamy & the world today reels from it's devastating affects! God's plan & perfect will has always been "one man & one woman" with exception to levitrate marriages of which Scripture shows He authorized.
---Leon on 10/27/14


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"StrongAxe: Though polygamy was not illegitimate back then,mthey can have it through (a)inheritance or from (b) spoil of war,
but (1) God made only 1 woman for Adam not more than one (2) God prescribed that priests must be husbands of only 1 wife. From these one can conclude that monogamy is the best/ideal marriage."
---Adetunji on 10/27/14


Excellent Adetunji!!!
---Leon on 10/27/14


StrongAxe:
Though polygamy was not illegitimate back then,they can have it through (a)inheritance or from (b) spoil of war,
but (1) God made only 1 woman for Adam not more than one (2) God prescribed that priests must be husbands of only 1 wife.
From these one can conclude that monogamy is the best/ ideal marriage.
---Adetunji on 10/27/14


"You said: Polygamy is having two or more mates by one's own random choosing & for one's personal delight.

Chapter and verse please.

Dictionary says: the practice or condition of having more than one spouse, especially wife, at one time...
---StrongAxe on 10/24/14


'Axe: I say potAto, you say poTAto... Would you please tell me the difference between my saying "two or more" to your saying "having more than one..."? Is not two or more more than one?

I don't think you got that dictionary definition out of the Bible, did you? Chapter & verse please! :)
---Leon on 10/26/14


Leon and Cluny,

Strongaxe is right and is following complete biblical law where polygamy is concerned. The law states (both biblical and otherwise)
That polygamy is having more than one wife.
Cluny, Jesus was not talking about marriage to a woman when he said you can't serve 2 masters. He was speaking of serving God and the devil at the same time, it does not apply to this situation at all.
The point is that the Bible says nothing about polygamy being wrong in the eyes of God. Only gives definition of deacons not having more than one wife.
Also forbidding remarriage after widowhood is a nono in the eyes of God and shows false doctrine.
---g on 10/27/14


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Adetunji:

You wrote: Deut. 21:15 If a man has two wives, ...

The very phrase presumes that it is LEGITIMATE to have two wives. If you read further on, it is not at all about condemning polygamy. Rather, it's about showing favoritism to sons of a favored wife, and thus violating the proper laws of inheritance.

Solomon's polygamy was condemned, but again, not in and of itself, but for totally unrelated reasons - his wives led him into idolatry.
---StrongAxe on 10/26/14


Deut. 21:15 If a man has two wives, ...
---Adetunji on 10/25/14


\\Polygamy is having two or more mates by one's own random choosing & for one's personal delight.\\

This is not really true.

I've already mentioned the main purpose of levirate marriage--to provide for the widow's welfare.

In ancient times, treaties between kingdoms were frequently ratified by marriages between royal houses--if not a princess from Country A given to be the extra wife of the king of Country B.

Jewish law at one time permitted polygyny if and only if the man could treat all wives equally, especially in providing affection and consortium >>ahem<<.

This, however was not very practical. As Jesus put it, no man can serve two masters.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/25/14


Leon:

You said: Polygamy is having two or more mates by one's own random choosing & for one's personal delight.

Chapter and verse please.

Dictionary says: the practice or condition of having more than one spouse, especially wife, at one time.

However, according to the Bible, levirate marriage of a brother inlaw to his deceased brother's widow wasn't considered to be polygamy.

Please cite chapter and verse that says it ISN'T polygamy.

It was authorized/sanctioned, by God...

Yes it was. Yet I have yet to see any verse where God condemns polygamy (under any circumstances). Do you have any?
---StrongAxe on 10/24/14


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'Axe: Polygamy is having two or more mates by one's own random choosing & for one's personal delight. However, according to the Bible, levirate marriage of a brother inlaw to his deceased brother's widow wasn't considered to be polygamy. It was authorized/sanctioned, by God, to provide a male heir for the deceased brother, thereby protecting the dead man's family inheritance & making provision (protection) for his widow. In such cases the living brother, if already married, was further obligated to wed his brother's widow ~ two wives ONLY...NOT THE SAME AS POLYGAMY.
---Leon on 10/24/14


\\You said: Unless the context means married only once.

In that case, the command is ambiguous. If Paul had intended that meaning, why wasn't he more specific?\\

This is how the pre-Reformation churches understood it.

A twice married man cannot be ordained to the priesthood or diaconate in Orthodoxy. And if a married clergyman is widowed (or divorced) and remarries, he is deposed from ministry.

\\(e.g. if a man died childless, his next of kin had to marry his widow - no exception if he was already married).\\

Children of levirate marriages were considered children of the deceased.

This was actually done to protect women in a society that had no welfare or widows' pensions.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/24/14


Cluny:

You said: Unless the context means married only once.

In that case, the command is ambiguous. If Paul had intended that meaning, why wasn't he more specific?


Leon:

You said: God has never tolerated polygamy.

Then why did Moses never once forbid it, and in some cases demanded it? (e.g. if a man died childless, his next of kin had to marry his widow - no exception if he was already married).

It would have been easy to forbid it. Prophets who otherwise chastised the various patriarchs never said one word against their polygamous marriages. Against Solomon, it was because his wives led him astray to worship other gods - NOT that many wives were wrong in and of themselves.
---StrongAxe on 10/24/14


Cliff: God has never tolerated polygamy. The Bible clearly shows there has always been consequences to pay for sin. Look at what polygamy did to Jacob's (Israel's) dysfunctional family. Similarly, what happened in King David's family? But, the really big one that has leapt out Bible history & now significantly torments the world today is when Abraham & Sarah decided to take matters into their own hands. The result was the birth of two nations of brothers (Ishmael & Isaac) who have been fighting each other every since.

---Leon on 6/8/14

All bad examples Leon. SIN not plural marriage caused the issues.
And Abraham was not married to Hagar.
Bishop is the only role that commands only one wife.
---g on 10/24/14


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... one man had 12 sons through 4 women. ... basis of the 12 tribes, 12 disciples, 12 apostles, 12 thrones with Christ, 12 gates of heaven. ...one woman is enough trouble.
---sin on 10/13/14

Trouble, yes. Scriptures verify you.

Jer_3:14 Turn, O backsliding children, saith the LORD, for I am married unto you: I will take you one of a city, and two of a family, I will bring you to Zion:
Isa_62:4 Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken, neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
Isa_54:1 ... for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.
---Trav on 10/24/14


\\there would have been no need to mention a bishop as being a "man of one wife" if polygamy was not acceptable.\\

Unless the context means married only once.

**I would not consider the insults and degrading behavior of Peninnah to Hannah to be godly.**

You mean like we see here on these blogs?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/24/14


//Whether this was a happy domestic arrangement is another matter.//
Cluny

I would not consider the insults and degrading behavior of Peninnah to Hannah to be godly.
---Scott1 on 10/24/14


Cluny:

You said: I don't recall anyone saying God tolerated polygamy.

There is no mention in the Bible that polygamy is NOT acceptable to God. It was common among all the patriarchs. The custom in the New Testament was monogamy, but there would have been no need to mention a bishop as being a "man of one wife" if polygamy was not acceptable.

Solomon was chastised for his many wives - NOT because of the number, but because they swayed him to other gods. The prophet condemned David for adultery and murder - but said not a word about his polygamy.
---StrongAxe on 10/17/14


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\\I accept Scott's challenge to find ONE "godly" polygamy marriage in the Bible. He writes: Show me one "godly" polygamy marriage in the Bible?\\

Samuel's father had two wives. This is mentioned matter-of-factly, without any hint of disapproval, and apparently they all were as pious and believing as any other Hebrew family of the day.

Whether this was a happy domestic arrangement is another matter.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/15/14


I accept Scott's challenge to find ONE "godly" polygamy marriage in the Bible. He writes: Show me one "godly" polygamy marriage in the Bible?

Assumably, Christ's marriage to the church. If Christ were limited to choose ONE, would he choose any of us?
---sin on 10/15/14


//"God said He [doesn't] change. So if he tolerated polygamy back then, would He still tolerate it today? If he doesn't then He 'changed', right?"
---1st_cliff on 6/8/14//

Show me one "godly" polygamy marriage in the Bible? The OT is a story of events not always an example to follow.
---Scott1 on 10/14/14


The reason Bible men like David and Solomon have more than one wife is because the Bible allows for a man to have more than one wife. A king is commanded not to have "many wives". One wife is not many. Two wives are not many. A few is not many. Several approaches many. The people of God, one man had 12 sons through 4 women. This is the basis of the 12 tribes, the 12 disciples, the 12 apostles, the 12 thrones with Christ, the 12 gates of heaven. But sure enough, one woman is enough trouble.
---sin on 10/13/14


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//"God said He [doesn't] change. So if he tolerated polygamy back then, would He still tolerate it today? If he doesn't then He 'changed', right?"
---1st_cliff on 6/8/14//

God did say He does not change, and it is true. He does not change. His nature, character and attributes, never change. He is the same yesterday, today and forever.
This is speaking of His nature, character and attributes. Not about what orders or commandments He gives man to accomplish His will. Agape
---Luke on 6/20/14


"...Today most men just do not marry the women. Just sleep with many of them."
---Samuelbb7 on 6/9/14


As King Solomon said, "There's nothing new under the sun." Man today is the same as man yesterday (all the way back to antiquity).

Look at David standing on his balcony lustfully gazing down at Bathsheba. I strongly suspect he wasn't thinking about marrying her.
---Leon on 6/13/14


Yet you say, For what reason? Because the LORD has been a witness between you and the wife of your youth, against whom you have dealt treacherously, though she is your companion and your wife by covenant. But not one has done so who has a remnant of the Spirit. And what did that one do while he was seeking a godly offspring? Take heed then to your spirit, and let no one deal treacherously against the wife of your youth. For I hate divorce, says the LORD, the God of Israel, and him who covers his garment with wrong, says the LORD of hosts. So take heed to your spirit that you do not deal treacherously." (Malachi 2:14-16)
---love.jesus on 6/9/14


Cliff: Why are you so bent on kicking against the pricks? :)

In the beginning, God's marriage design was monogamy. (G2:20-24) But, after Adam sinned all hell broke loose. Polygamy is first seen when the murderer Cain's rebel & murderous great...grandson, Lamech, takes two wives. (G4:16-23) Again, the Bible records, Gods "original intention" was ( & still is) for one man to be married to only one woman.

In Deut. 17:14-17, Moses spoke God's will to the Israelite people concerning monogamy verses polygamy. God's word (the Bible) clearly shows a man with multiple wives soon finds himself facing very serious problems. This is clearly spoken of in the life of Solomon (1 Kings 11:3-4 ~ Deut. 17:17).
---Leon on 6/9/14


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Leon, Where in the OT law was polygamy forbidden?
---1st_cliff on 6/9/14


Good points Cluny and Leon.

Society demanded it then. Which has not changed that many things Society wants us to do is sin.

Today most men just do not marry the women. Just sleep with many of them.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/9/14


Hello,I believe the bible is correct,but God will" let you lay wallow in your own mess",if you will a great example like somebody mentioned the two brothers,that part of the world been fighting every since..can't blame God.Came out of
the handmaiden of Sarah & the child Sarah bore for her husband Abraham.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 6/9/14


Karen, yes indeed. You are right about that!
---love.jesus on 6/8/14


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"God said He [doesn't] change. So if he tolerated polygamy back then, would He still tolerate it today? If he doesn't then He 'changed', right?"
---1st_cliff on 6/8/14


Cliff: God has never tolerated polygamy. The Bible clearly shows there has always been consequences to pay for sin. Look at what polygamy did to Jacob's (Israel's) dysfunctional family. Similarly, what happened in King David's family? But, the really big one that has leapt out Bible history & now significantly torments the world today is when Abraham & Sarah decided to take matters into their own hands. The result was the birth of two nations of brothers (Ishmael & Isaac) who have been fighting each other every since.
---Leon on 6/8/14


1st_cliff on 6/8/14: 'If he doesn't then He "changed", right?'


No

What changed is what God permits people to do, not what God WANTS people to do.

God never wanted polygamy, but for some time He allowed it.
---Peter on 6/8/14


I don't recall anyone saying God tolerated polygamy.

SOCIETY tolerated it.

Happy Pentecost!
---Cluny on 6/8/14


God said He does not change.
So if he tolerated polygamy back then ,would He still tolerate it today?
If he doesn't then He "changed", right?
---1st_cliff on 6/8/14


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love.jesus....Just like men and women today.
---KarenD on 6/8/14


True Bryan! As scripture says, "There's nothing new under the sun." (Ecc. 1:9) Women then & even now, in many third world countries (as well in religious cults here in the United States), are seen as spoils of war and/or property to be taken & used however the lustful, dominating monsters see fit.

Love: Since the fall of mankind, in the Garden of Eden, SIN has run rampant, like an out of control hellfire storm, in the world. Most definitely, there's nothing new under the sun! The world is still full of lustful fellows (demon possessed hell hounds)! :)
---Leon on 6/8/14


They were also rather lustful fellows!
---love.jesus on 6/7/14


In those day women were though of as objects for man to do as he pleased with. Some places today women are treated that same way.
---Bryan on 6/8/14


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This has always been on my mind.Please give all information,thanks! Elena 5999
---Elena9555 on 6/7/14


Yes, treaties for socio-economic & security agreements for allying & defending against enemy nations. Sometimes enemies became friends to mutually defend themselves aqainst a bigger, more powerful enemy. As the saying goes, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." In a real sense, when two clans intermarried it was a blood covenant between them (son of one & daughter of the other) producing offsprings belonging to each group/family.

I suspect in the case of rich women like Abigail (who suddenly became a widow & was favored by David) she & her household needed protection so it was a marriage of convenience: protection for her & procurement of her assets for David, i.e., business arrangement.
---Leon on 6/7/14


One reason: this is how treaties were made and sealed in those days.

Another reason is polygamy was tolerated at this time. But never is it shown as a source of domestic harmony.

That's why the wife (or wives) of the kinds didn't have the title Queen, but rather the mother.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/7/14


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