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Matthew 13, 11 Question are you a follower as you say you are, are you a disciples of Jesus as you say your are. Then do you believe you are given this great mysteries?

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Dear Trey,
What you said about the Bible is correct. Even though we have many different version of the originals.
But do not be saddened by the lack of understanding. We are told that in Romans 3 as it is written,
"There is none righteous, no, not one, "There is none who understands" There is none who seeks after God"
As you can see that many have no understanding. Which tells us that they cannot possibly be saved. While many Christians get confused in the beginning because they are just beginning, the mature ones should already have a clear concept of their salvation and what the Bible teaches. The Spirit guides us unto all truth. Agape
---Luke on 7/12/14


As I read some of these answers I am saddened by the lack of understanding.

2Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Tim 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

The word inspiration is translated from the Greek word theopneustos. It means "breathed of God". The scriptures are without error. If there is error it is on the part of the reader.
---trey on 7/10/14


The NT books appear to have begun to surface around A.D. 50.

Mark 6:8 "And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only, no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:"
Mark 13:11 "But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost."

The early disciples carried the Gospel up close, in person, hand to hand and by word.
There was not much writing early on. Everything in due time.

Thanks micha9344, good bit.
---Nana on 7/8/14


/For the Lord of all gave to His apostles the power of the Gospel, through whom also we have known the truth, that is, the doctrine of the Son of God, to whom also did the Lord declare: He that heareth you, heareth Me, and he that despiseth you, despiseth Me, and Him that sent Me.... Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome, and laying the foundations of the Church.\-Irenaeus (AD120-202), Against Heresies Book III
---micha9344 on 6/17/14


The four Evangelists might have used different sources and records, including the alleged and ethereal Q document.

This does not keep what they wrote from being inspired by the Holy Spirit.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/17/14




The Q document hypothesis was invented by those who believe in a late date for the Scripture and do not think the Apostles actually wrote them.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/16/14


Matt. 2:6, 10:6, 15:24 Mark 12:29 Luke 1:16 John 1:31 Rom 15:8 Addressed to Israel which has twelve tribes with twelve apostles.
A good reason to follow Paul as he followed Christ is,
Paul is our apostle, making him God's spokesman for the boC today.
---michael_e on 6/16/14


//Matt 9:9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting//

That still doesn't mean he wrote the book of Matthew. Where does Matthew say he wrote it? He may have. I am not saying he absolutely didn't.

Whoever the author of Matthew was, he appears to have gotten some of his material from Mark and another source some people call "Q," the sayings of Jesus. All this to say that the Gospels had different messages, points of view, for different audiences. This doesn't mean it isn't "inspired."

However, somehow we digress from the fact that Jesus is our example, and we need to follow Him.
---Rod4Him on 6/14/14


When you read the bible your reading stories of how man interacted with God. The New testament is stories of how man interacted with Jesus the son of God our cteater. He has given his life for us, we were dead in our sin but paid the price for our sin. After the epistle you have the book of Acts. The rest of the New testament shows us and teachs us how the word works.
---Bryan on 6/13/14


//That doesn't say he wrote the book of Matthew.//
Can you show another Matthew mentioned in scripture?
---michael_e_silver on 6/13/14




//Matt 9:9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting//

That doesn't say he wrote the book of Matthew.
---Rod4Him on 6/13/14


//Matthew, Mark, and Luke probably never saw Jesus//
Matt 9:9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him
---michael_e on 6/13/14


//Matthew, Mark,Luke and John are 4 different people. What they experienced was the same way but saw it in their own light.//

Although that is true, it is probably more accurate to say that they had 4 different audiences in mind, so they presented the Gospel with a different slant.

Matthew, Mark, and Luke probably never saw Jesus, and they were probably written latter than most the rest of the NT, so they could have borrowed material to write their messages. That doesn't make the books uninspired.
---Rod4Him on 6/13/14


Bible is a book of stories of how man and women used the word all kinds of different ways. The truth of the bible is the word works. That is the truth of the bible.
---Bryan on 6/13/14


//The problem is many ignore even the words of the HOLY SPIRIT written by Paul just as much as they ignore the words of the HOLY SPIRIT written by Moses.//

very good
---michael_e on 6/13/14


Matthew, Mark,Luke and John are 4 different people. What they experienced was the same way but saw it in their own light. That does not mean any were wrong. They gave their own versions of what they saw.
---shira4368 on 6/12/14


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Why do you struggle for this Gospel that was given to you. It is given to you. There is no limits it produces life or death. Who was the apostle who said your tongue can hang you? World of iniquity. By your tongue
---Bryan on 6/12/14


All the words of the Bible are important. We must compare all the Bible to find the truth.

The problem is many ignore even the words of the HOLY SPIRIT written by Paul just as much as they ignore the words of the HOLY SPIRIT written by Moses.

People pick and choose to match their doctrine in many cases. Instead of letting the HOLY SPIRIT lead and comparing all scripture to find truth.
---Samuelbb7 on 6/12/14


But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:26
---Steveng on 6/11/14


Michael_e, just because John and Matthew wrote of different events does not mean they didn't remember every Word that Jesus said. Have you never read John 21:25?

God and His Son are Moses' eyewitnesses. John 7:19.

If the words of Paul are more important to you than the Law and the Prophets and the Testimony of Jesus then I leave you to it.
---barb on 6/12/14


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//I believe that Matthew and John wrote from memory//
Isn't it amazing they didn't remember the same things?
//but we do know for sure what His Father wrote on two tablets of stone.//
By your way of thinking, did Moses have any witnesses with him?
Maybe Moses and Paul had similar experiences.
---michael_e on 6/11/14


Michael e, yes I believe that Matthew and John wrote from memory. "But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom my Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things and bring ALL THINGS TO YOUR REMEMBRANCE, whatsoever I have said unto you." John 14:26.

We may only know that Jesus wrote something once in the dust but we do know for sure what His Father wrote on two tablets of stone.
---barb on 6/11/14


//You don't think the writers wrote from memory do you?//

No, Luke researched carefully.

Luke 1:3, ...it seemed fitting for me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in consecutive order, most excellent Theophilus,

Shalom
---Rod4him on 6/11/14


//who are Luke's eyewitnesses from Acts 1-9?//
You don't think the writers wrote from memory do you?
//I take my instructions from the words of Jesus Christ and will be judged accordingly//
you know the only time He wrote was in the dust?
---michael_e on 6/11/14


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Michael e, who are Luke's eyewitnesses from Acts 1-9? Where did he get the information that he wrote in Acts 1:4. Compare that verse to Mark 14:28, Mark 16:7, Matt 26:32 and Matt 28:10.

You can believe whatever you want to believe but I do not believe that Acts is an accurate description of the events after the death and resurrection of Jesus.

I don't know who wrote the legends nor do I believe them. The fact is we are not told the fates of Jesus' disciples but you can read what Jesus told them in John 16:1-7.

I don't need instructions from Paul, I take my instructions from the words of Jesus Christ and will be judged accordingly. John 12:44-50.
---barb on 6/11/14


Paul teaches following the risen Christ, not walking the streets of Israel.
Where's the Church had Paul never recieved his revelation of the mystery?

Take out Romans to Philemon. Also take out Acts nine and onward
Without Paul, the last testimony from the church is the church in the temple from Acts 2-5. This group is led by Peter and the eleven
Acts 8 the church was scattered except for the apostles who were obedient to these instructions (Acts 8:1).
Without Paul's instructions where do you find salvation?
---michael_e on 6/11/14


// Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ.//

Most translations use the word "imitator" instead of followers. This verse says to "imitate" Paul as he imitates Christ. One doesn't need Paul to imitate Christ. It appears that some try to say that Paul preemepts Jesus. Furthermore, Paul is talking about behavior, not doctrinal statements.
---Rod4Him on 6/11/14


//The book of Acts is mostly all about Paul because it was written by Luke who was a convert of Paul//
Paul isn't mentioned until Acts 9.
So should we believe Peter preached a message at Pentecost? Should we believe Stephen was stoned?
//according to legend)//
You don't believe the Bible but you believe legend? Who wrote the legend?
---michael_e on 6/11/14


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II Corinthians 5:16,

15, "He died for all, so that they who live might no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died and rose again on their behalf."

That is another way of saying to follow Jesus and live for Him.

Verse 16, "we have known Christ according to the flesh,"

That probably does not mean that Paul personally saw Jesus, but he is contrasting knowing someone physically vs spiritually. In this case, one should know Christ spiritually. Consequently, we do "follow" Jesus spiritually. Obviously, we can't follow His physical being, nor can one follow Paul's physical being.

Thanks for verses...I like challenging concepts.

Shalom
---Rod4Him on 6/11/14


Michael e, how do you know the disciples of Jesus didn't go to other nations? All we are told about His disciples after the resurrection is the little that is written in the first part of Acts. And Luke wasn't actually there at that time so how accurate can that be? The book of Acts is mostly all about Paul because it was written by Luke who was a convert of Paul.

So if Paul was consenting unto his death then why did he appeal to Caesar for his life in Acts 25? At the end of Acts (according to Luke) Paul is preaching out of a rented house but most of the disciples of Jesus (according to legend) have been persecuted and put to death.
---barb on 6/11/14


1Co 10:30-11:1 For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks? Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God: Even as I please all [men] in all [things], not seeking mine own profit, but the [profit] of many, that they may be saved. Be ye followers of me, even as I also [am] of Christ.
---micha9344 on 6/11/14


Paul never said I when he was sharing the Gospel. He always said we or us. He said all the knowlodge of Christ Jesus is for all of us first is was given to the jewsih people then it was given to the rest of us. He is explaining this point to the churches that are in error when he said watch me cause they did not have a bible as we do. Paul would spend months at defferent churches teaching remember Paul new the old covenant wall. studying to be a priest before, Roman centurion
---Bryan on 6/10/14


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//The verses I gave in Matt 28 were to show that Jesus sent His apostles to all kindreds, people and nations not just the Jews//
Why do you suppose they didn't go to other nations?

Acts 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem, and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.
---michael_e on 6/10/14


Paul said he was blinded by a light who claimed to be Jesus. He never said that Jesus appeared in the flesh to him on the road to Damascus. Jesus did appear to His disciple in the flesh after His resurrection so one would wonder why if it was Jesus on the road, he appeared as a bright light to Paul and in the flesh to His followers. Didn't Paul say that Satan could disguise himself as an angel of light?

Michel e, no I do not think "you" means me nor do I believe that the nations are the U.S. although probably some of each ethnic group from the nations has immigrated and lives in the U.S. The verses I gave in Matt 28 were to show that Jesus sent His apostles to all kindreds, people and nations not just the Jews.
---barb on 6/10/14


//Paul knew Christ in the flesh,...//

//When was that, or was that a typo mistake?//
No typo, Paul's letters
2 Cor 5:16
Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more
---michael_e on 6/10/14


You are right Brian.

//For I have been informed...there are quarrels among you.Now I mean this, that each one of you is saying, I am of Paul, and I of Apollos, and I of Cephas, and I of Christ. Has Christ been divided? Paul was not crucified for you, was he?

In reply to "being a follower of Paul instead of Jesus," it would be helpful to do a word study on the word "follow-er." KJV uses "follow," most other versions of Paul's use of the word is "imitator." We are to imitate Jesus as Paul did. The focus is Jesus, not Paul. Furthermore, the main point is the behavior of Paul, not his doctrines.

To repeat...

"I belong to Paul,or...or...or...Has Christ been divided?
---Rod4Him on 6/10/14


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//Paul knew Christ in the flesh,...//

When was that, or was that a typo mistake?
---Rod4Him on 6/10/14


Paul knew Christ in the flesh, but he was taught by the risen Christ

Acts 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: 16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.
2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
---michael_e on 6/9/14


Most of you will say that I am of Paul, and I of Apollos, and I of Cephas, I am a Lutheran, I am a Catholic, I am Orthodox, I am Protestant, I am Baptist.

Is Christ divided?

And those who are a true follower of Christ, having the Holy Spirit work through them, the same are those who can perform miracles greater than Jesus.
---Steveng on 6/9/14


Micheal are sure? Who is Paul's teacher? How could Paul follow Jesus? He had no Jesus to follow according to your belief. Jesus was not here? So you want me to follow a person who was unable to follow Jesus? Called or not Paul had no Jesus follow he was not here in the flesh. Think I will stick to being disciple by the word "Jesus" the word made flesh. So if the word is Jesus he is still here cause the word is still here. Share Jesus out my mouth everyday. Cause he is still here everyday.
---Bryan on 6/9/14


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//but believers are to follow Paul as he follows Jesus,//
1 Cor 4:16, 11:1 Phil 3:17
1 Tim 1:16
Maybe this will help
When people followed Jesus in Matt-John, they used their feet (Mat 14:13). Most of the time it was a literal physical following. When Jesus said follow me he meant literally drop your nets, leave your families, and travel with me.
The most famous follow me commands was spoken to potential disciples. Matt 4:19
There came a time in the Lords ministry where no man could follow him. John 13:36
Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now, but thou shalt follow me afterwards.
Up until that time they were literally following Jesus ministering to Israel only (Mat 10:5).
---michael_e on 6/9/14


We are to look at the life of JESUS and to live like Him. This is what follow JESUS means.

Some use the WWJD What would JESUS do as the way to do this.

agape
---Samuelbb7 on 6/9/14


//The apostle to the Gentiles instructs us to follow him as he follows Christ.//

I lost the logic of this. We can't follow Jesus because He is seated in the Heavenly places and He's not going anyway, but believers are to follow Paul as he follows Jesus, Who isn't going anywhere.

Don't forget what Paul said, "...for you are still fleshly....For when one says, I am of Paul, and another, I am of Apollos, are you not mere men?
---Rod4Him on 6/9/14


I am grateful to call myself a follower of Jesus.

I am no longer concerned with knowing the Mysteries of God. My favorite verse was John 14:21 because in it Jesus tell us that He will manifest Himself to us. Yet, I missed the very heart of the verse, to love Jesus enough that I would surrender my life to keep His commandments.

And what are His commandments?

John 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, as I have loved you, that you also love one another"

Mark 12:30-31 "And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength...And the second, like it, is this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself"
---Mark_Eaton on 6/9/14


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There came a time in the Lords ministry when no man could follow.
John 13:36
Until then they were literally following Jesus ministering to Israel.
(Mat 10:5).
It was impossible to follow Jesus as he ascended.
Today, people follow him by being Seated in heavenly places, He is not going anywhere at the moment, and neither are those who claim to be following him.
The apostle to the Gentiles instructs us to follow him as he follows Christ.
1 Cor 11:1
Paul recorded his instructions and there are faithful men that follow after his God-given pattern (2 Tim 2:2, 2 Tim 3:16). The Bible contains Gods instructions. The Bible rightly divided contains Gods instructions for you.
Phil 3:17
---michael_e on 6/9/14


Yes and yes Jesus is very clear on this point he said if you repent. He said he would heal you and you are given to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven. Which means how the word works. If it is sown it will grows larger than anything in your life.
---Bryan on 6/9/14


I am not sure what is being asked here.
---love.jesus on 6/8/14


"Then do you believe you are given this great mysteries?"
I believe the Word, and as a disciple, Jesus Himself said "It is given unto you [the pupil] to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven." (Mat 13:11) As one who's learning from the only teacher of the things of the Spirit, The Christ, (Mat 23:8) yes, I do believe.
---josef on 6/8/14


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