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Demon Possessed Gun People

What could/should be done about guns and other types of weapons being used by demon possessed people to commit crimes in America?

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"you cannot get that view from Leon's posted blog"--Peter.

Hi Peter. Leon makes it clear he is a liberal and thus supports their policies. Leon demonstrates this in topics that correspond with liberal values and policies. As liberals have long been at the forefront pushing for easier abortion/murder then its logical to conclude Leon endorses such abhorrent policies, being a liberal.

If Leon didn't endorse such abhorrent policies then logically we would expect that he would distance himself from liberal/leftists.

Hi Leon. There's no shame in rejecting the liberals after you had trusted and followed them for so long. Many of us have changed our loyalties once we understand it was misdirected.



---Haz27 on 6/19/14


Cluny. Whilst no side has a monopoly on abuse, the clear winner is still the liberals.

Examples from just ONE person (Leon): "Cackling clucks... Mental midget fool. Control freak who has delusions. You're boring. "Grate" minds stinking alike. Zealous neo-nutsie. Self-righteous fanatic. Right-wing facist"

Well known deceitful labels we all know the Left commonly uses.
Racist. Homophobe. Misogynist. Bigot. Islamophobe. Denialist. Facist.

Labels used by SEVERAL conservatives against Leon.
Poison snake. Childish little mind. Spoiled brat. Domineering.

Labels the Right commonly uses against liberals. ??

And the clear winner for abuse/vilification is.....the liberal lefties!!
---Haz27 on 6/19/14


"In English, you cannot get that view from Leon's posted blog." ---Peter on 6/18/14

I gave the reasoning for my statement. His comments and actions on these blogs accuse him.

"You are making a number of assumptions (the most important one is that to reduce crime we must have weapons)"

That's actually not an assumption. That's a proven fact, in addition to being a logical conclusion. The vast majority of prevented crimes are prevented by armed citizens. Police officers are rarely able to prevent violent crimes due to the fact that they would have to be at the scene at the exact time the crime is taking place. That's virtually impossible.
---Jed on 6/18/14


Very true Cluny ~ a very astute observation. These CN blogs have turned into a barnyard full of all types of cackling clucks who regularly squabble over trivial things while frantically beating the wind with flightless little wings.
---Leon on 6/18/14


Jed: ' It seems Leon favors violent murderers and has an aversion to protecting the innocent.'

In English, you cannot get that view from Leon's posted blog. You are making a number of assumptions (the most important one is that to reduce crime we must have weapons) and then assume Leon makes the SAME assumption.

That is mistaken thinking.

In fact, your error in thinking is as big as Leon's

I know where you are coming from, but you phrase it very badly!
---Peter on 6/18/14




\\Leon. Name calling responses are a common leftist method of "debate". We see this often in Australia with leftists and clearly leftists do the same in USA. \\

I've noticed, especially on these blogs, that name calling and ad hominem arguments come from all sides to all sides.

No particular wing has a monopoly on this practice.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/18/14


Love: Unlike persons who abort them & don't repent of their sins before they die, aborted babies go immediately back to heaven. Great question!
---Leon on 6/18/14


Leon. Name calling responses are a common leftist method of "debate". We see this often in Australia with leftists and clearly leftists do the same in USA.

I assume from your name calling response to my question that you have never posted a topic showing concern about the 3000 babies PER DAY being aborted/murdered in USA. But you do post topics that follow issues that the leftist dominated mainstream media and politicians push. And you even adopt their characteristic name calling style.

I suggest you would do far better looking to Christ as an example, instead of following whatever the Left tells you.
---Haz27 on 6/18/14


Do aborted babies go to heaven or do they go to hell?
---love.jesus on 6/18/14


Haz27, good point. Come to think of it I have never seen Leon complain about the murder of thousands of innocent babies every day, but he complains about innocent citizens having the means to protect themselves and their family from murderers. It seems Leon favors violent murderers and has an aversion to protecting the innocent.
---Jed on 6/18/14




wow, there is a poison snake amongst us. Im afraid it isn't elder tho. watch out for any snake with a triangle head. lol. if any of you know what I know about elder you would support his ministry. you see, I know what he is doing is God's will because satan hits everything he does. if satan is leaving you alone its because you aren't doing anything. when you attack elder you are attacking a ministry and I would be afraid to attack a preacher and his ministry.
---shira4368 on 6/18/14


WHOA ~ THE GREAT AND POWERFUL ELDER HAS SPOKEN!!! Really?! :) Don't let your being a mental midget fool you. I had you pegged years ago as a control freak who has delusions of grandeur on the CN blogs (and probably elsewhere). You're boring & I've become very tired of your rebel rants. Therefore, I BAN YOU "junior" from any further conversations with me! Now, go whining & tell your daddy to kick me off of CN!!! :D

Haz: Are you & the adder married to each other? You know what they say about "grate" minds stinking alike. :)
---Leon on 6/18/14


Leon, you're correct there's extremists on both sides. But the worst, most pervasive extremism is from liberals. They've normalized the abortion/murder of nearly 3000 babies PER DAY in USA. Thanks to leftist dominated mainstream media, etc (who control public debate and therefore thought), society is manipulated into what to think.

Evidence of this is seen on CN where liberal bloggers seem more interested in supporting liberal issues such as useless anti-gun laws, but show little interest in the abortion of 3000 babies PER DAY, that their liberal masters endorse.

Leon, have you ever posted a topic against abortion like you have on guns? Does the killing of 3000 babies PER DAY match your concern on weapons?
---Haz27 on 6/18/14


Leon you are typical of a childish little mind that has had your simple fake comfort zone shaken.

Resort to name calling as if that accomplishes something more than showing your ignorance. Of course that is why your rant started.... because we showed your ignorance.

Do you even know what "neo" means? Well, your lack of intelligence and common sence is not "neo," it has run deep for a long time!

It is people like you that would censor people like Haz and myself because we don't fit your domineering socialist pattern.

Your words are like those of a little spoiled brat that your mama always took up for. Different crowd now dude!
---Elder on 6/18/14


Elder: A rapid firing tongue in the mouth of a religious fanatic IS a devastating weapon too!!! (James 3)
---Leon on 6/16/14

"I agree, yours should be banned!!"
---Elder on 6/17/14


No doubt you really mean that Elder being the zealous neo-nutsie, self-righteous fanatic you are. Yours is an extreme right-wing facist solution!

Haz: Your over-emphasized dramatic depiction of liberal/leftists as demon possessed may very well have some merit. Certainly not everyone in the group is possessed though. I believe the same can also be said of the loud mouthed, clenched fisted, hell-raising, gun toting right-wingers as well.
---Leon on 6/17/14


"A knife or vaccum hose in the hands of a liberal abortion doctor IS a weapon!! "---Elder

Good point Elder.

In the USA there are nearly 3000 abortions/murder PER DAY.

As the liberal/leftists are always at the forefront pushing for easier abortion/murder then there you have the group in society who best fit Leon's dramatic description of "demon possessed people".

Liberals/leftists are the biggest killers around. And their favourite victims are defenceless, innocent babies!

And the leftist dominated mainstream media remain silent on these baby killings. It's a non-issue because liberals say so and have even legislated to make it ok to murder babies.
---Haz27 on 6/17/14


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"what "Well regulated militia" do you belong too?" NurseRobert

The 2nd amend does not require or state that such a concept is required. This is a liberal left view.

It is directed towards the individual citizen allowing them the right to bear arms... the people not state or federal governments.

If this were not true then the state government could deem every able bodied person of age a military member and you'd have to arm yourself.

"Elder: A rapid firing tongue in the mouth of a religious fanatic IS a devastating weapon too"
Leon

I agree, yours should be banned!!
---Elder on 6/17/14



Recently in my city, a man pulled a gun on someone attacking him. The assailant wrenched the gun out of his hand and shot someone else dead.

Glory to Jesus Christ!

---Cluny on 6/16/14


This most likely happened because the victim was not fully committed to shooting his assailant when he pulled out his gun. He was probably counting on his assailant being scared away by the sight of the gun. That is very stupid. You never reveal your gun unless you are prepared to use it. And you never point a gun at anything unless you fully intend to shoot it.
---Jed on 6/17/14


\\The only thing that will protect innocent people from an evil person with a gun is a good person with a gun.\\

Not necessarily so.

Recently in my city, a man pulled a gun on someone attacking him. The assailant wrenched the gun out of his hand and shot someone else dead.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/16/14


Elder: A rapid firing tongue in the mouth of a religious fanatic IS a devastating weapon too!!! (James 3)
---Leon on 6/16/14


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---micha9344 on 6/13/14

Micha, knives, pitchforks and lawnmowers were not designed to be lethal weapons. Guns were. They have one purpose and one purpose only... To kill something.

As far as the 2d Amendment. Do you own a gun? if so, what "Well regulated militia" do you belong too?
---NurseRobert on 6/17/14


"Most Australians are ignorant of such facts due to our leftist dominated mainstream media withholding such information. Our mainstream media just tells us what to believe and those who rely upon them for information are the most ignorant of the truth." -Haz27

Sounds exactly like the United States mainstream media.
---Jed on 6/17/14


"One blog issue at a time Elder. Thank you!"
Leon

Ugh.... Leon did you read or have someone read the blog question to you? Did you see/hear the words "other types of weapons?"

A knife or vaccum hose in the hands of a liberal abortion doctor IS a weapon!!
---Elder on 6/16/14


Jed, you said, "cities and the areas in the country where strict gun control has been implemented have become the most violent places in the U.S. While the places with open carry remain the safest places."

Most Australians are ignorant of such facts due to our leftist dominated mainstream media withholding such information. Our mainstream media just tells us what to believe and those who rely upon them for information are the most ignorant of the truth.

Switzerland has automatic rifles in every household for national defence. And in spite of this Switzerland has one of the lowest homicide rates in the world. Again most Australians are unaware of this truth. The leftist dominated mainstream media withholds such facts.
---Haz27 on 6/16/14


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Haz27, you mentioned that the gun control efforts have failed in Australia. The same is here in the U.S. as well. The cities and the areas in the country where strict gun control has been implemented have become the most violent places in the U.S. While the places with open carry remain the safest places. Anytime gun control is implemented violent crimes rise dramatically, and those places actually become targets for violent criminals. Our schools and universities are one fine example. They have become targets for violent criminals because they are gun-free zones, which of course does not deter the criminals in any way, but rather ensures them that they will not be quickly confronted with armed resistance.
---Jed on 6/16/14


"More people are killed by abortion & drunk drivers every year than are killed by citizens guns..."
---Elder on 6/16/14


One blog issue at a time Elder. Thank you!

"...The gunmen are going to give the U.S. citizens more reason to cry out ENOUGH OF THE SENSELESS KILLINGS, we surrender the guns! Then, the dictator takes over, then the NWO, then the A.C..."
---Gordon on 6/15/14


No Gordon. Instead of amending the 2d Amendment to force law abiding citizens to surrender firearms, our legislative & judiciary authorities should work harder to enforce existing laws to the maximum extent, i.e., ZERO TOLERANCE for people who heinously mass murder people via a wide assortment of weaponry.
---Leon on 6/16/14


I'll leave the rest of you to continue this conversation. God bless.
---love.jesus on 6/16/14


//To the contrary Jerry & your problem is you can't see beyond the tip of your tongue. (James 3).
---Leon on 6/15/14//

Wow! Can you actually see the tip of your tongue? I can't. Have you put that "Gun Free Zone" sign in your front yard yet?



The only thing that will protect innocent people from an evil person with a gun is a good person with a gun.



---jerry6593 on 6/16/14


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"More people are killed by abortion....than are killed by citizens guns. Where is your out cry about this?"-Elder

TRUE.
Because the leftist dominated mainstream media and politicians dictate that guns are the issue, then their leftist followers think its an issue.

But greater issues such as abortion of babies is unimportant for leftists who endorse baby killing anyway.

The leftist dominated mainstream media, etc, control public debate and tell us what to think. It's sad that this is reflected in topics chosen by leftists here on CN. I've never seen a leftist here raise concern for the abortion/murder of babies. They may be Christian, but their distorted moral values matches that of their leftist masters.
---Haz27 on 6/16/14


love.jesus. Please read The New Thought Police, by leftist Tammy Bruce. She exposes the Lefts control of debate through the media.

In Australia we also have conservative journalists. But they're in the minority.

As long as one side dominates media debate then that is enough to control thought. There's no need for total control as you think.

The unbalanced public debate here is due to do our biggest media outlet, the ABC. It's funded by our taxes and it's charter obliges it to be impartial and provide balance. Sadly the ABC is dominated by leftists who refuse to obey this charter.
The leftist ABC deceitfully denies any bias of course, and conveniently only leftists agree with this.
---Haz27 on 6/16/14


More people are killed by abortion and drunk drivers every year than are killed by citizens guns. Where is your out cry about this?
---Elder on 6/16/14


Jerry, you said "We have a city (Chicago) with the most restrictive gun laws in the country. It also has the highest murder rate in the country. More people are murdered there annually than are killed in all our current wars. This city is controlled by leftist Democrats (like Obama)."

Thanks for that interesting info.

If I recall correctly, I had heard that Chicago was a major mafia centre and that politicians (including Obama) there all have dealings with the mafia. I even heard that Obama's home was financed by a mafia boss.

Our political leaders here in Australia are just as corrupt. Former leftist prime minister Julia Gillard is currently under investigation for inappropriate use of funds.
---Haz27 on 6/15/14


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Gordon what you say makes a lot of sense to me. I sort of think along those lines also. America is quickly loosing her freedoms that our men have fought for over the centuries before us. it does seem people are on a rampage and we know it isn't of God so it is of satan. I have always believed the people in asylums are demon possessed. maybe I am wrong about this but I have always wondered about it. thanks for your input that so much lines up with what I believe also.
---shira4368 on 6/15/14


Haz, I told you what I think. Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and people like that are not leftists. If there were a left-wing conspiracy in the media, they would never have gotten on the air in the first place. God bless you, and happy Father's Day!
---love.jesus on 6/15/14


I do believe that the demonic possession of the rampaging gunmen are part of Satan's strategy to form the Anti-Christ's NWO kingdom.
America must lose her independence in order to be subject under, as will every other country, the reign of coming Anti-Christ.
I do not believe Obama will be the A.C., but, he is helping to prep and condition America to lose her Freedom(s).
The gunmen are going to give the U.S. citizens more reason to cry out ENOUGH OF THE SENSELESS KILLINGS, we surrender the guns!
Then, the dictator takes over, then the NWO, then the A.C.
Maybe??
---Gordon on 6/15/14


BTW, jerry, St. Paul wrote during the days of the Roman Empire that governments are not a terror to good works, but to evil.

He also said that the powers that be are ordained by God.

So that's two places the Word of God disagrees with you about the government being bad.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/14


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\\Elder: What's with this younger generation that thinks that guns are evil and government is good. I think they've got it backwards.\\

Wrong again, jerry.

The 78 school shootings committed in the last year or so were done by teenagers or young adults.

And the couple that tried to shoot up a shopping center and died in the process were anarchists who thought that NO government was good.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/14


Hi love.Jesus. I don't know how you conclude the mainstream media are not predominantly Leftists.

The mainstream media are at the forefront pushing PC dogma. A left wing activist even wrote a book (The new Thought Police) describing how the leftists control public debate through the mainstream media in USA. She even got abused by leftist mates for exposing this, but she felt it was more important to get the message out that fair and balanced media debate gave better results.

Here in Australia (and even Europe) it's recognised the Leftists dominate the mainstream media. They also dominate university faculties such as journalism, history, arts, philosophy.

Is it any wonder then why many countries are in such a mess.
---Haz27 on 6/15/14


To the contrary Jerry & your problem is you can't see beyond the tip of your tongue. (James 3).
---Leon on 6/15/14


The mainstream media are not all liberals lefties. They are in business to make money, and they do it anyway they can. The talk shows make them lot of money, and almost all the talk show hosts are right-wingers
---love.jesus on 6/15/14


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//
Ohhh boy! Run, duck, hide! Jerry is shooting off his mouth again!!! ---Leon on 6/14/14 //

Thanks, Leon for showing us how it's done. I see that you hate our (US) 1st constitutional amendment (freedom of speech) as much as the 2nd (right to keep and bear arms).


Haz: We have a city (Chicago) with the most restrictive gun laws in the country. It also has the highest murder rate in the country. More people are murdered there annually than are killed in all our current wars. This city is controlled by leftist Democrats (like Obama).

Conclusion: Democrats and their gun laws kill people - not guns.



---jerry6593 on 6/15/14


Cluny. Australia's gun laws were introduced in 1996 due to the
overwhelming pressure from the predominantly Leftist mainstream media and the anti-gun lobby.

So was this gun legislation a success?

In 2005 Don Weatherburn of Crime Statistics concluded that the gun laws had little to no effect on violence.

Likewise Dr Baker and Dr Samara, who wrote in the British journal of Criminology that their studies found no evidence for an impact of the laws on homicide.

The problem that Australia does continue to have in spite of the gun laws, is that criminals still get guns through illegal importation/trafficking.
---Haz27 on 6/14/14


love.jesus no it wasn't referring to the Bible at all. There are many research projects that tell how many people do one thing or another and I thought perhaps you had seen that in a report on research. If I don't have complete proof that I can referrer to on something then I try not to make judgmental calls on things. I love research myself and I just thought it would be interesting to check out your source and learn something. God/Jesus doesn't need weapons. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/14/14


Leon, I suggest your topic is misdirected.

It should be asking what can be done to change a sick society that resorts too frequently to violence, killings, etc.
Many countries are in a sick state. The likes of USA for example even endorses the abortion/murder of thousands of babies a week.

I think most would agree that the best solution is that Christians should be preaching the gospel of Christ much more.

No doubt there will be opposition, especially from the leftist/liberals who dominate the mainstream media,etc, as a growing Christianity would be a threat to their PC thought control.

Leftists are known for their totalitarianism and anti-Christ, Humanist agenda. Therein lies the cause of our sick society.
---Haz27 on 6/14/14


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Darlene
I am not sure what you want my source for. Is it what would Jesus do?
---love.jesus on 6/14/14


love.jesus I see you said so many but the only gun owners that I know are not fanatics,none of them are, Christian or otherwise and I know many. Those I know use their guns to hunt and target practice to sight in their guns. I don't know about people who only have pistols. Perhaps we are referring to two different situations. With all respect I must ask are most Christian people with Bows and Arrows fanatics too? My answer to that is no they aren't but it follows they might be if the gun owners being fanatics is correct. Please tell me for information sake what is your source that you based your idea on? Looking forward to your answer. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/14/14


Ohhh boy! Run, duck, hide! Jerry is shooting off his mouth again!!!
---Leon on 6/14/14


Right Jerry, and when those misguided people get into trouble they call someone with a gun...

"If I asked myself, what would Jesus do, I could not picture him owning a gun," love.

Show me one place where Jesus condemned the carrying of a weapon. Peter had one and used it. He was corrected because he used it wrong.

The Bible teaches us to beat our plows into swords at this time. How do you deal with that lj?

If I told you the balls and bats in my closet started a baseball game and woke me up last night you'd think I was crazy. So tell me the harm any firearm has done?
---Elder on 6/14/14


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\\Obama recently expressed interest in the gun controls we have here in Australia.

But our gun controls have been proven to have failed in reducing gun violence.\\

Could you tell us more about this, Haz27?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/14/14


Elder: What's with this younger generation that thinks that guns are evil and government is good. I think they've got it backwards.

What's next? Knife, rope, poison, rock, etc. control laws?

I suggest that these lefty control freaks put signs in their own front yards that say "Gun-Free Zone". We'll see how all this misplaced "caring" works out for them.


---jerry6593 on 6/14/14


the fact is most people who have guns are responsible and not demon possessed. no matter what anyone thinks about guns, the bad guys can always get guns. so called gun control will not work.
---shira4368 on 6/13/14


Darlene,
Please note that I did not say that all Christians with guns are fanatics. I said many are, and that is the truth. If I asked myself, what would Jesus do, I could not picture him owning a gun, let alone carrying one around in public.
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


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Obama recently expressed interest in the gun controls we have here in Australia.

But our gun controls have been proven to have failed in reducing gun violence. The only statistics to have reduced is gun suicides as people find alternative ways to commit suicide.

Issues like violence in movies and computer games has been shown to have a causal link to violence in society.

Likewise mainstream media reporting on killings which has been proven to encourage copy cat killings.

Killings just shows up a sick society that has lost sight of God. All the more reason to go out and preach the gospel.
---Haz27 on 6/13/14


"Elder, do you think that we should stop registetring cars? Cars don't kill people, people kill people, right?"
love.jesus

There was a time that cars were not registered, drivers licenses were not required and guns did not have serial numbers. Not many problems back then.

Cars are not registered to stop injuries/drunk drivers or any lawbreaker. They are registered for tax purposes.

What should be registered are the idiots that think registering guns would make a difference to any criminal.
---Elder on 6/13/14


love.jesus so many Christians aren't fanatic about their guns. That is unkind to say Christians with guns are fanatical and so wrong. . Gun owners for the most part are very careful with their guns that they are never a threat to anyones safety. Leon with all due respect please forgive me,I must confess I had to laugh when you likened guns to a lack of sexual prowess. It just isn't correct they aren't trying to compensate for any lacks in that area. Guns are beautiful and no different to having a beautiful auto that others may love. From toddler age children of most gun owners are taught not to touch guns and never point them at a person. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/13/14


Allow non-demon posessed people who don't committ crimes to carry guns so they can protect themselves and others from the criminals. It's no coincidence that the cities with the highest crime rates have the strictest gun laws, and places with open carry are the safest places on earth. That's what should be done. We will never eliminate the demon posessed because liberals keep multipltung and spreading their satanic ideations. But we can protect ourselves and our loved ones from them. Also keep in mind that these demon posessed gun men who comitt mass shootings are almost always extreme leftists or Islamists. So it appears we need to do something about the leftists and islamic sympathizers in order for the violence to decrease.
---Jed on 6/13/14


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"micha9344 Your answer is dead on. It is a fact that you cannot solve spiritual problems (lack of godly character) by physical means (gun control etc.)"
---Simone_G on 6/13/14


Simone: What you & Micha say is dead wrong!

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. (Romans 13:1, NIV)
---Leon on 6/13/14


Michael, I have never made a personal attack on you at any time. You seem a little angry. Peace to you.
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


Let's just go all out with personal attacks shall we?
Why not fanatical hammer lovers?
Pitchfork lovers?
Knife?
Lawnmower?
Car? well.. ok.
How about bathtubs? Misuse of them kill many people a year.
It seems the only reason some people use "guns" to direct their logic is from the 2nd Amendment.
---micha9344 on 6/13/14


"It is interesting to me, and rather sad, that so many Christians are fanatical gun lovers..."
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


Love: I think (opine) that has something to do with their trying to compensate for a lack of sexual prowess. There are guns & then THERE ARE GUNS! :)
---Leon on 6/13/14


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It is interesting to me, and rather sad, that so many Christians are fanatical gun lovers...
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


micha9344 Your answer is dead on. It is a fact that you cannot solve spiritual problems (lack of godly character) by physical means (gun control etc.)
---Simone_G on 6/13/14


Elder, do you think that we should stop registetring cars? Cars don't kill people, people kill people, right?
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


A preacher I know, quite often has said, "What get's your attention gets you."

Here's a thought: Any & everyone born into SIN, who hasn't been born again, isn't in their right mind.

"...A true demoniac has his will suspended and is not morally responsible for his actions..."
---Cluny on 6/12/14


I disagree. The man Jesus cast demons out of was fully aware of his circumstances & of a "FREE WILL" managed to take responsibility (respond sensibly) & ran to Jesus for help (deliverance). The same "free will" choice of mind to come to Jesus has been made by multitudes of people throughout the ages.
---Leon on 6/13/14


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"...It might be a free, willing choice to do evil..."
---Cluny on 6/12/14


The devil can't take anyone's mind by force. People must open up & give him access, & control to their minds (souls) by outwardly speaking ungodly thoughts & ultimately acting them out. He then uses strong delusions to further influence & control their actions.

Sure, people of a free will choose to do evil. There is no such thing as "the devil made me do it". SIN is the oldest form of drug (dope) addiction known to man. But, anyone who is willing to kick the habit can do so in God's rehab center, i.e., John 3:16...
---Leon on 6/13/14


" guns should be registered just as cars are, since they are both dangerous"

Should we also register hammers and knives? Registering cars has not stopped drunk drivers from killing people.

Registering anything is not any way to correct this or any problem.

Let's get back to the concept of Biblical punishment for crime. Let's get back to honoring the Lord.

Guns are not the problem..."
---Elder on 6/13/14

I agree Elder. The problem isn't the instrument(s) of destruction used by SIN FULL (demon possessed) people. The problem is a severe lack of legislative & judiciary willingness to swiftly mete out ZERO TOLERANCE punishment to the fullest extent of laws we already have.
---Leon on 6/13/14


Leon I like how Cluny put it,a free willing choice to do evil. I didn't say they were in their right mind,I said evil sinner or mentally ill. Evil spirits can't indwell a Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit filled person. As the scripture you gave says Jesus cast demons from the man into swine and they were legion,and ran them off the cliff. Evil spirits can be any kind. People open the door to possession when they toy with things like horoscopes and other darksided things. I won't even watch Werewolf or Vampire movies or that type of evil shows even though I know they aren't real. We as Christians must keep our minds clean and concentrate on the things of the Lord. When Satan gets hold of the mind he has hold on the person. Hope that helped. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 6/13/14


" guns should be registered just as cars are, since they are both dangerous"

Should we also register hammers and knives? Registering cars has not stopped drunk drivers from killing people.

Registering anything is not any way to correct this or any problem.

Let's get back to the concept of Biblical punishment for crime. Let's get back to honoring the Lord.

Guns are not the problem. (PS Cain did not own a gun!)
---Elder on 6/13/14


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Maybe knifes, pitchforks, and lawnmowers should be registered as well, since they are dangerous and should only be used by responsible adults.
It is not the item, it is the individual, hence "responsible" adult.
One cannot regulate maturity by regulating things.
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
--This does not include cars.
---micha9344 on 6/13/14


why do you think the government should know who has all the guns in a person's home? they have no right to do that. on the other hand you don't have to worry about them confiscating your vehicle. the same people who are possessed have cars. from the way I see it, the gangs and wanna be bad dudes all have guns. remember hitler took the guns away too.
---shira4368 on 6/13/14


Whether or not demon possession is involved, guns should be registered just as cars are, since they are both dangerous and should be used only by responsible adults.
---love.jesus on 6/12/14


\\Darlene: How is it that anyone in their right mind would go on a killing (shooting/stabbing/bombing, etc.) rampage against innocent people?\\

It might be a free, willing choice to do evil.

A true demoniac has his will suspended and is not morally responsible for his actions.

But we have to admit, to our sorrow, that there are some people who delight in mayhem and murder.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/12/14


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"When they came to Jesus, they saw the man who had been possessed by the legion of demons, sitting there, dressed and in his right mind..." (Mark 5:15)

Darlene: How is it that anyone in their right mind would go on a killing (shooting/stabbing/bombing, etc.) rampage against innocent people? Certainly, such people AREN'T indwelt by the Holy Spirit. So, what other spirit(s) could possibly be resident in them & in control of their actions?

As always, I truly appreciate your christian charity my sister in the Lord! :)
---Leon on 6/12/14


First off, we don't know if anyone demon possessed has firearms.

Not even you, Leon.

Next, demonic possession is not a condition recognized at civil or criminal law in the USA.

I'm pro-choice about guns. I choose not to have one.

I know what the second amendment says, and it's too much a part of American fabric. But Someone greater than anyone who posts to these blogs said, "Those who take up the gun shall die by the gun."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/12/14


If guns are dealt with, people will just find other means.
Take the stabbing incident(s) recently.
Deal with the person/culture not the implements that can used for good as well as evil.
---micha9344 on 6/12/14


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