ChristiaNet MallWorld's Largest Christian MallChristian BlogsFree Bible QuizzesFree Ecards and Free Greeting CardsLoans, Debt, Business and Insurance Articles

First Opinion In The Bible

Who was first to express an opinion in the Bible?

Join Our Christian Penpals and Take The Relationships Quiz
 ---Leon on 6/12/14
     Helpful Blog Vote (6)

Reply to this BlogPost a New Blog



Haz: I believe what the Bible clearly says, but how does what I said not fit in context with the point you're trying to make? I think if you reread my comments you may understand I'm talking about people who are true disciples/students of Jesus Christ who eagerly receive His word.

Unlike you, I'm not talking about people who, having merely read it, reject God's word due to their preconceived biases & selfish agendas. Nonetheless, students of the Bible should read it in proper context to what the Holy Spirit instructs. To privately, self-interpret the Bible causes one to blindly miss the point entirely.
---Leon on 7/3/14


line-upon-line, precept-upon-precept---Leon

Leon, consider what it really says Isa 28:13
they would NOT hear. But the word of the Lord was to them,
Precept upon precept, precept upon precept, Line upon line, line upon line, Here a little, there a little,
That they might go and fall backward, and be broken and snared and caught.

Isa 29:11 explains how scripture is sealed to prevent understanding. Hence it was to the spiritually blind just line upon line...

Now note how we get understanding. Isa 29:18
In that day the deaf shall hear the words of the book,
And the eyes of the blind shall see out of obscurity and out of darkness....
that is we have the mind of Christ, 1Cor 2:16.
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


/Do you not know that opinions are views or judgments formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge?\-Leon on 6/13/14
/However, opinions (views) based solely on facts are "more than likely" to be the TRUTH than not.\-Leon on 6/28/14
-God does give us accurate views, just judgments and honest assessments.
When He viewed the light and saw that it was good, we believe Him. His is the only opinion that matters.
When His assessment was that it was not good for man to be alone, His judgment was just in providing him a helper suitable for him.
Opinion does not mean "lack of knowledge", therefore the all-knowing One can and does view with all Truth.
---micha9344 on 7/2/14


"...Why are you getting so worked up about this and putting people down over a simple word?"
---micha9344 on 7/2/14


HUH?! :D I've tried to answer you politely Micha, but you obviously don't want to hear it. What can I say? Actually, there's nothing further to say to you other than God bless & may He increase your understanding as you seek to know Him. :)
---Leon on 7/2/14


/opinions (views) based solely on facts are "more than likely" to be the TRUTH than not.\-Leon on 7/1/14
You have posted this already.
Do you have something new, without any condescending remarks, to add?
So God, Who cannot lie, when He expresses His view, is the Truth. His opinion is Truth, just as, as you say, Satan's opinion is a Lie.
Why are you getting so worked up about this and putting people down over a simple word?
---micha9344 on 7/2/14




Micha, exhale & please let me help you: Facts attached to falsehoods (LIES) are an intentional distortion of the truth, i.e., the serpent's cunning lies in the garden. Therefore, even though there is some truth in one's opinions (views), it's used to bait & misdirect others in the wrong direction with an accompanying false opinion. That's what makes an opinion a LIE.

However, opinions (views) based solely on facts are "more than likely" to be the TRUTH than not. For example, studying the Bible, line-upon-line, precept-upon-precept.
---Leon on 7/1/14


So, opinions aren't facts, nor can be?
Are opinions then fiction?
But, if opinions can be facts, then why can't God express them?
God cannot have a view on a matter, that would have to be fact, because it is His?
God cannot make a judgment that is true and right because He is all-knowing?
Leon, your definition of "opinion" seems to be skewed.
You use the term "false opinion" but cannot accept "true opinion."
You use the term "not necessarily based on fact or knowledge" and reject when it is based on knowledge.
So, God doesn't have an opinion because He has facts, but Satan has an opinion because he lies.
Interesting.
---micha9344 on 7/1/14


Micha: God didn't "express a view" (opinion). He, being the All-Knowing Creator, always makes statements of FACT!

In the comment I made, that you quoted, I'm talking about the opinions (views) of a fallen angel (the serpent) & mere men ~ creatures.

What God said about man being without a woman wasn't His expressing an opinion! Rather, it was a statement of FACT for the benefit of us, i.e., the readers of the Bible. In other words, God was explaining to (teaching) us what He already knew. He was setting the stage to unfold a plan He had ready to go even before Adam & Eve sinned. We're the ones that need to know, not God! :)
---Leon on 6/30/14


/However, opinions (views) based solely on facts are "more than likely" to be the TRUTH than not.\-Leon on 6/28/14
So there are true opinions(assessments, conclusions, judgments, thoughts, views, hypotheses, suppositions, theorems, beliefs) as opposed to "false opinions."
God's opinion (view, assessment, conclusion) on day 1 was "it was good", because that is what He saw (viewed).
He also had an opinion (view, assessment, conclusion) about man without woman saying "It is not good for man to be alone."
God's conclusions are always true. His views are always accurate. His assessments are always right.
I stand by my first statement.
God was the first to express a (view) in the Bible.
---micha9344 on 6/30/14


Obviously, Micha, you haven't read my blog question or comments here objectively & don't comprehend what my question is about.

No, the question should read as I have written it. Not as you'd like it to be. :)

Let me help you: Facts attached to falsehoods are an intentional distortion of the truth, i.e., the serpent's cunning lies in the garden. Therefore, even though there is some truth in one's opinions (views), it's used to bait & misdirect others in the wrong direction with an accompanying false opinion. That's what makes an opinion a LIE. However, opinions (views) based solely on facts are "more than likely" to be the TRUTH than not. For example, studying the Bible, line-upon-line, precept-upon-precept.
---Leon on 6/28/14




So the question should have read "Who was the first to express a lie in the Bible", according to Leon's posts.
So, by "stating a fact", it cannot be "opinion", but, by stating a lie, it is.
In summary, all opinions are lies, according to tenor of Leon's posts.
For the rest of us, opinions can be true or false and are "not necessarily" lacking in knowledge.
---micha9344 on 6/27/14


Kat: Instead of ranting about the speck in my eye, you'd do well to deal with the logs that are in yours. I'm not "your problem"!
---Leon on 6/25/14


Yonder kingdom isn't yours to come, but you'll have hell to pay soon enough.
---Leon on 6/24/14

These remarks are aweful Leon. Even if in your own mind you believe your own nonsense, why are you disobeying verses like Bless those who this or that...turn the other cheek etc. Can anyone take you seriously when you openly disobey God, and then leave yourself as an example of that disobedience you want all to follow and look up to? If you can't get that part right, what makes you think anything else you say or do is right? And please don't come back and say...."God really didn't say or mean......." We all know where those original words came from.
---kathr4453 on 6/25/14


Despite all of your false allegations Adder, etc., God knows the truth of the matter & that's all I really care about. I care not one bit how you pack of hellhounds bark, growl & gnash your teeth at me. So, you morons (as in Mormons) keep up your self deception & making up lies. Yonder kingdom isn't yours to come, but you'll have hell to pay soon enough.
---Leon on 6/24/14


Yes, Shira, I understand what you mean.

Just remember if we didn't have people like Leon aka MarkV all the physco doctors and wards across the world would go out of buisness.

It is people like him that makes me know there are devils and demons running to and fro on the earth in these last days!

Also if you didn't have something evil and rotten what would you compare good and righteousness to?
---Elder on 6/24/14


Ahh.... the liar speaks again..little leon the peon aka MarkV.

The truth sure makes you hurt doesn't it?

Now about this baby murdering you seem to support what's your position? Or is it only wrong if they are killed with a gun? At least post why you are so scared to answer. Is the boggy man after you?

You know, like Satan, your time is limited here... Try to get something right before you leave!
---Elder on 6/23/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Christian Divorce


Elder, you may want to go to the Noah blog that started a year or so ago, and start from the beginning. Leon insisted because Noah's sons were listed together they were triplets. I pointed out Abraham was too listed with two other brothers the same way and was not a triplet. Oh my did the cursing and hissing of this snake called Leon begin. Francis and others rebuked Leon, and he cursed them too. Leon has a pride issue like his mentor, and seems to love to openly display it for all to see.

I see many here on line have issues with Leon's vicious tongue and have openly rebuked him to no avail.
---kathr4453 on 6/24/14


This is another blog that has turned to personal attacks.

"For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a man" Mark 7:21-23.
---Luke on 6/24/14


Well I've never heard adder used like it was used in this blog. Elder, stop being so mean to people. Stop telling the truth. Stop living for The Lord. stop using every dime you have on your ministry. Leon would like you much better. He could even relate to you.
---shira4368 on 6/24/14


Hi Adder! How's the bruised head? (Genesis 3:15)
You're so lame, no one with a real spirit of Christian discernment is paying any attention to your egotistic hissing. You think more highly of yourself than you should: you're full of pride & headed for a fall. Ask me if I really care what you do! Crawl back under your rock viper!
---Leon on 6/23/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Christian Marriage


"In street venacular, a shrew is..."
Leon

Your twisted mind didn't quote "street venacular."
You added to the Scripture and perverted it. Just like your other statements do.

"You spin lies..."
Leon

To see who the liar is we must remember your statement that you were never going to address me again.

I knew you couldn't hold out and I knew you lied. That IS one thing you are good at.

Your synonyms don't work either. It is probably because your education and spiritual knowledge only comes from Google.

You totally misuse scripture to try to make an unvalid statement to seem real to the unknowing.

Guess I'll haf'ta go back to calling you by your real name MarkV.
---Elder on 6/23/14


This relentless barking that I hear, will it ever end? Lord please muzzle her!!! :)
---Leon on 6/23/14
---Leon on 6/23/14


There ya go spinning your bad attitude OPINIONS again Leon. You had a great teacher, using God's Word to twist and distort and kill another with. NO WONDER you are such an EXPERT on the subject. I get it now. Now watch me dump dog poop on your feet and I will say three times...I denounce you I denounce you, I denounce you! OH my I feel SO MUCH better now that I truly understand your point as you used by personal example. Please forgive me for being so dense. To SEE it is to believe.
---kathr4453 on 6/23/14


Don't get it serpentine twisted Kat! This isn't a game & I'm certainly not playing with you. :)

IT IS WRITTEN: Proverbs 27:15 - A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious [SHREW*] woman are alike.

FYI: *SHREW

noun: shrew ~ a bad-tempered or aggressively assertive woman.
synonyms: virago, dragon, termagant, fishwife, witch, tartar, NAG, hag ~
informal battle-ax, old bag, old bat... (Source: Google)

In street venacular, a shrew is (a contentious, hands on her hips, head wagging, eyes rolling & tongue wagging) woman commonly called a HAMMER: one who attacks & criticizes forcefully & relentlessly.

You spin lies Elder Adder!
---Leon on 6/23/14


Send a Free Funny Valentine Ecard


Kathr: Obviously, there's a significant gulf between your & my understandings in these matters. So, let's just let sleeping dogs lie, shall we? :)
---Leon on 6/21/14

Even this expression is not applicable to the conversation here. Unless this is an OLD ARGUMENT that caused ill feelings that you lost years ago and someone else brought it up to rub it in.

My last post belonged on another blog .. "children of Israel out of Egypt".( with more word change meanings) That's when you would use the expression..."let sleeping dogs lie".

It it also known more intelligent people don't curse the other when they know they are losing a debate.

You are simply a poor sport Leon.
---kathr4453 on 6/23/14


You are one sick puppy Kathr. I hope you'll soon be getting the help you so desperately need. It's quite apparent your heart isn't right before God. I pray you'll repent before it's too late.
---Leon on 6/22/14


Leon, maybe you really need to stop posting questions you already have YOUR answer to. So why did you ask these questions? To insist your definitions are absolutes, even made up and inserted words not found anywhere except on your postings.

So Leon agrees with Leon ......yea for Leon.

So again is this about slavery and black people. ...you believe you and your descendants are owed restitution? Oh YES, I remember the blog you insisted Leah's handmaiden was black and forced into slavery bearing Jacob's children.......got it Leon......and I got this post as well when you posted it. Not everyone here is as stupid as you hope they are.
---kathr4453 on 6/22/14


Kathr, a contentious woman can and normally does cause a lot of problems.

(Conteneious = a contest or quarrel or discord.)

A contentious man does exactly the same thing or worse as you have seen!

But, what is worse is when one adds to to the Scripture, ie:[shrew].

Adding to the Scripture causes the plagues of the Scripture to be added to him, Rev 22:19.

The Scripture never hints at a contentious woman or man being a shrew because they can be that way and never lose their temper or raise their voice.

Let's see what other names you will be called by this typical sisyphean mind and heart.
---Elder on 6/22/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Debt Consolidation


Kathr: So, now I can't even post scripture, no matter how accurate it is, without your condemnations? You really need to listen to yourself and perhaps get some psychiatric and/or ministerial help. You're "like" a junkyard dog that doesn't know when to let go! Heel!!!

Proverbs 27:15 - A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious [shrew] woman are alike.

THAT'S NO LIE!!! :)


---Leon on 6/22/14


Leon, so immature to use scripture to curse someone who has shown you you are wrong. Just admit you are wrong in defining Satan's actions as opinion or bad attitude.

Your bad attitude is showing here with your last post. Why do you want to lie with dead dogs when all you need to do is acknowledge you may be wrong. That would have been the higher road Leon.

Is's OK to debate with Leon. ONLY IF YOU AGREE WITH HIM, otherwise those who don't are invited to lie with him and dead dogs....no thanks Leon.
---kathr4453 on 6/22/14


Proverbs 27:15 - A continual dropping in a very rainy day and a contentious woman are alike.

That's no lie!!! :)
---Leon on 6/21/14


Satan will be charged with murder in the first degree. God said he is a murderer "from the beginning".He will be thrown in the lake of fire to burn for all eternity! and it won't be for having an opinion or bad attitude. Oh satan has opinions and a bad attitude! but his crime is murder in the first.....premeditated murder. His opinions and bad attitude is not a defense or excuse for his actions. God forgave Job's friends out of their ignorance of making statements without facts or knowledge. Our just God will NEVER FORGIVE SATAN, because satan had facts and knowledge of what happens when one disobeys God. Satan again tempted Jesus 40 days in the wilderness, Jesus being OUR EXAMPLE of obedience, and victory over satan our adversary.
---kathr4453 on 6/22/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Refinancing


People who lie to you, hoping you will fall or fail has nothing to do with having a bad attitude. It may be motivated by pure greed, or jealousy all defined as SIN. Satan had fact and knowledge and therefore was not stating an opinion. So Leon, your argument would never hold up in a court of law. No one can be condemned for having an opinion or bad attitude. But a bad attitude, based on one's personal failure out of facts and knowledge they themselves disobeyed, tempting another to follow .. (..misery loves company) ...is called "treachery", the most evil form of sin there is. Treachery is premeditated, with a PURPOSED end result. This defines Satan. He has a PURPOSED end result, and has since the beginning.
---kathr4453 on 6/21/14


Kathr: Obviously, there's a significant gulf between your & my understandings in these matters. So, let's just let sleeping dogs lie, shall we? :)
---Leon on 6/21/14


Leon, again you embellish definitions to redefine meanings. The synonym for OPINION never lists LIE ...you did. Now you want to use the word ATTITUDE...GOOD OR BAD, and define it as well as a LIE. I may have a bad attitude about something. My attitude about many of the issues today in this country does not make it a LIE. Nor does MY OPINION about those issues make my opinion a LIE EITHER.

People who work for evil employers who cheat them will have a bad attitude. Their bad attitude does not make their opinions about the company a lie.

So what is the purpose or motive in this question anyway.....redefining REBELLION AND DISOBEDIENCE as an opinion? Tempting another to do evil is now an opinion?

Sorry, that dog don't hunt.
---kathr4453 on 6/21/14


Kathr: A half truth is nothing short of a whole lie. What the serpent "opined" (G3:4-5) was a subtle mixture of intentional lie with absolute truth. The lie (Mickey Finn, drug, stuporous dope) was the part about "not dying". The truth part was confirmed by God (G3:22).

OPINION: A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. Synonym - attitude (bad or otherwise). Clearly, the serpent's "bad attitude" enticed Eve to eat & she gave to Adam to eat, & both died.

Incidentally, the serpent had the audacity to lash out at God by judging & calling Him a liar & in doing so he indirectly called Adam a fool for believing God.
---Leon on 6/21/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Franchises


"Your garden needs more greenery" .. Is an "opinion". "No, it needs more flowers".....another OPINION.

Ford's are better than Nissan's...again is an opinion.


God said satan is "THE FATHER OF LIES" ...not "opinions" starting from and going all the way back to the garden. God was stating a FACT...NOT OPINION.
---kathr4453 on 6/20/14


Not that it is the first, but a great example of OPINION in scripture are the friends of Job. Nothing they said was based on fact or knowledge, and we see clearly God's attitude and open rebuke of Job's friends' OPINIONS, concerning God or the things of God.

A lesson of FACT we all need to revisit.
---kathr453 on 6/20/14


opinion, plural noun: opinions

a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.


Satan was not giving an opinion, but an outright LIE. When someone LIES and they know they are LYING it is not an opinion. Since he had already fallen based on the FACT of his own disobedience, and purposefully wanted to corrupt man, to call his lie an opinion is false.

Many can have an opinion on many issues that is not willful lying or willfully misleading another.
---kathr4453 on 6/19/14


Luke: Instead of trying to find fault with me you'd do well to get your eyes off of me & find absolute truth in the B.I.B.L.E. That's where the answers to ALL the questions are. Agape!
---Leon on 6/19/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Lead Generation


//The best way to know how to identify an opinionated lie (untruth) is to "first" know God's absolute truth in matters. God has compiled, for us, a record of truths in His Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (B.I.B.L.E).//

Dear Leon,
Great words, but who's truth are you going to believe? You have rejected many opinions already from others who answer. Your interpretation of a passage might be different then someone Else's, even when talking about the same passage. Yes, the answer is in the Bible, but how you interpret the Bible is another story.
You must have a book on "Bible difficulties" to check for answers. You will still be giving someone's opinion on the interpretation of a passage. Agape
---Luke on 6/18/14


FYI: There's nothing wrong with opinions so long as they're rooted & grounded in God's truth (word). A forked-tongue half truth is nothing short of a whole lie. All truth seeking Christians (believers in & doers of God's word) must beware of a world full of palatable lies that sound right (logical). The best way to know how to identify an opinionated lie (untruth) is to "first" know God's absolute truth in matters. God has compiled, for us, a record of truths in His Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (B.I.B.L.E).
---Leon on 6/17/14


I accept your apology, Leon. God bless you.
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


Micha: GET UNDERSTANDING! Proverbs 4:7
---Leon on 6/13/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Mortgages


You're right Love & I sincerely apologize to you. When you called me "the questioner" I felt insulted you had used a passive aggressive sleight to indirectly express your disapproval of my comments to, what's his name? Lighten up, I'm just kidding about you know who. :)
---Leon on 6/13/14


Leon, why do you respond with insults and name-calling? I have been courteous to you. But don't want to continue conversing with you if you continue this behavior. Thanks.
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


Cluny, I think you are right about that. I wonder what the questioner meant by "opinion."
---love.jesus on 6/13/14
This was not an opinion, but an out and out deliberate lie by Satan. Try again...
---Cluny on 6/13/14

You guys! What a mixed bag of nuts! :D In my opinion, you're very witty too Looney. But of course, that can't be verified as accurate until after your marble is counted.

OPINION: A view or judgment formed about someone or something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. For example, a LIE.
Synonyms: thought(s),(point of) view, attitude, etc.

You try again! :)
---Leon on 6/13/14


"Leon, you are going to hear from Cluny about how you spelled his name... :)"
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


Whoaaaaa, I'm shaking with fear!!! :D

"God was first - It is not good for man to be alone."
---Scott1 on 6/13/14


Scott: God wasn't expressing an opinion. He was stating a fact!
---Leon on 6/13/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Personal Loans


Yes Leon,
You said it yourself, "not necessarily."
So, when an opinion is based on facts, Who better to proclaim it then God Himself?
I have posted several synonyms for "opinion."
God's assessment? Gen 1:4
God's conclusion? Gen 1:31
God's judgment? Gen 6:7
God's thought? Exo 32:14
God's view? 1Sam 16:7
God's supposition? Gen 3:22
Opinion is "not necessarily" false, and definitely not so from God.
Maybe a clarification of your opinion of "opinion" might be in order.
---micha9344 on 6/13/14


Cluny, I think you are right about that. I wonder what the questioner meant by "opinion."
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


This was not an opinion, but an out and out deliberate lie by Satan.

Try again.

BTW, Leon, when you misspell my screen name, do you think you're being a wit? You could be half right.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/13/14


God expresses opinions Micha?! Whoa back!!! Do you not know that opinions are views or judgments formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge?
---Leon on 6/13/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Auto Insurance


Leon, you are going to hear from Cluny about how you spelled his name... :)
---love.jesus on 6/13/14


---Leon on 6/12/14
Love.jesus

That is not an opinion. that is a fact

God was first - It is not good for man to be alone.
---Scott1 on 6/13/14


Wow Love...! You beat Clooney to the punch. He's usually numero uno to make comments on most of the blogs. Good job with your Bible facts! :)

Yes, the devil was the first to express an opinion in the Bible. He's still doing it repetitively in 2014.
---Leon on 6/12/14


Gen 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone, I will make him an help meet for him.
All of God's opinions (assessments, conclusions, judgments, thoughts, views, hypotheses, suppositions, theorems, beliefs) are True.
In fact, we could go back earlier:
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Whereas, man's opinions (see list above) can be faulty (
erroneous, flawed, inaccurate, unreliable, distorted, fallacious, fallible, imperfect, unsound, wrong).
Gen 2:20,Gen 3:3
And Satan's is faulty(see list above).
Gen 3:4
---micha9344 on 6/13/14


Read These Insightful Articles About Holidays


The snake, "You will not surely die..."
---love.jesus on 6/12/14


Copyright© 1996-2015 ChristiaNet®. All Rights Reserved.