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I am adopting a new "saying" to guide my daily life: "Lord, help me help." I need a Bible verse to match it. What fits best?

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 ---Geraldine on 6/25/14
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I am also from U.K. and,may months ago, met Rita in the library where I am right now. Only my third visit here and still no home computer.

I agree that people are sometimes recognised by the way they phrase what they are saying. We pick up on accents more when we hear a voice but we can pick up the style of writing sometimes and narrow it down somewhat I believe.
---andreea on 7/23/14


Dear Nana,
It is all in your confused mind. You waste God's time on finding trash. I have no clue who Lisa is, or was. What did she do to you for you to keep dicking her name up? She must have disagreed with you as I have.
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, "and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God not of works, lest anyone should boast" (Eph. 2:8,9).
I can say speaking on behalf of myself. He only is my salvation, it was He who turned my heart, brought me to my knees before Him. Grace taught my soul to pray, and opened my eyes, and grace has kept me to this day, and grace will not let me go.
---Luke on 7/23/14


Nana - That's interesting. I will keep all that in mind when reading the blogs. However, I think you should allow for the fact that people from the same area use words in very similar ways and could be mistaken for someone else. I think that I am the only U.K. person here at this present time but there used to be several of us and we all use English in a way quite different from the way Americans use it and are recognizable for that reason.

Maybe the several names you mention are all different people but from the same part of the U.S.A., but if not, someone is grossly abusing the website and should be removed.
---Rita_H on 7/22/14


There was a Lisa when I started blogging in 2006 who disappeared and reappeared as Mark_V.
The latter 'name' was removed from the blogs for being obnoxious but reappeared as Luke.
---Nana on 7/22/14


Nana, so where is the post to which you responded by saying "There goes Lisa the gossip Queen!"

You chose to say that in this particular blog but no Lisa posted here and the only post listed from her is the one I have mentioned which goes back to 2008.

I'm sure that no-one here wishes to know the history of this but YOU are the one who raised her name even though it is not connected to this blog.
---Rita_H on 7/22/14




"Nana must be mistaken about something or someone."
---Rita_H on 7/21/14

I am not mistaken and just because you cannot find more posts from "Lisa" with a google search, it does not mean they are not there.
This blog used to list all the history of blogs from members until they changed it to just show but the latest few instead of all from the first to the last blog entry of the blogger.
I am not about to give you that cat's whole history.
---Nana on 7/21/14


Someone using the name LISA posted an answer here on 9/17/08 to a Q headed My Husband Just Left Me. That is her one and only post. It's the 15th answer down from the top.

Nana must be mistaken about something or someone.
---Rita_H on 7/21/14


Who is Lisa?
---love.jesus on 7/20/14


There goes Lisa the gossip Queen!

1 Timothy 5:13 "And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house, and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not."

Mark_V. fooled many for a long time with a false show of caring and kindness. Soon enough, when her nail she've sharpened enough, she'll start clawing full time. It is her vile nature.
---Nana on 7/19/14


Dear Elena,
Your answer to Nana was a very good one. I am glad and very happy you are online. You are a very kind person, and a great Christian, we need so many more people like you. I do not say this to make you proud, but to give glory to God for what He is doing in your life. I have also noticed that you have being learning so much in the last few months. Praise God, for He is awesome. He brings great joy even when we are suffering. Agape
---Luke on 7/19/14




I am sure I am ignorant of many things, too. But that's okay. We all are! :)
---love.jesus on 7/16/14


Nice origins:
Middle English (in the sense stupid): from Old French, from Latin nescius ignorant, from nescire not know.-Google
-It is amazing how words change meanings through time.
---micha9344 on 7/16/14


I am so nice. It is nice to be nice. :)
---love.jesus on 7/15/14


\\ I have tried to be nice to you\\

Is everyone at your church as nice as you in the same way you are here?

if so, no wonder you wish you could go to another church 200 miles from you.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/15/14


Hello,Bro.Nana,with all respect I can speak for myself, Elena,my point is simple, I come in peace, not a sword.
In seeking the Lord,our goal live for him.Do we all have flaws? Yes, we do.I can not judge neither Bro.Luke nor judge Bro.Nana, let me never judge or lay false claims on anyone. we have Christ - our bond. Jesus died for us, rose again, we owe Jesus all respect & be forgiving, if we have wrong our brother or sister,our main focus seek ask forgiveness, God knows our heart.
Nothing is hidden Brother Nana from God. Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 7/13/14


"Be encouraged, we need Cnt ,some have different views, but the God we serve is the same."
Elena_9555

Of course you are speaking of just yourself and Luke right? Because Luke told me:

"..., you distort the sovereign will of God. You make Him out to be a god of petty. A god who cannot save anyone He wishes to save. That when He calls someone to salvation, His will is defeated day in and day out by the will of sinful man."
---Nana on 7/13/14


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Thankyou, Bro.Luke, give all respect appreciate you took out the time.
I agree 100%!!!
Some display anger, we're human,yet we should pray everyday, God help us to love one another.
Bitterness, hatred has no place for the christian unless we hate sin, hate the works of the devil,etc..
Be encouraged, we need Cnt ,some have different views, but the God we serve is the same. Thanks again for your kind reply, God bless you and your family.
Bro.Luke keep up the good work!

Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 7/12/14


Dear Elena,
I am not going anywhere for the moment unless God decides
it is time for me to move on. That can happen in many ways. But I am disappointed that so many when answering say derogatory remarks, are even get personal with their answers instead of just working for God and answering with Scripture. Some of the arguments go on in many blogs with the same people arguing against each other. What a waste of time and space. We need to answer for the glory of God and forgive and move on. Some here are very stubborn and won't forgive. Agape
---Luke on 7/12/14


//...but you won't let anyone be nice to you.//

That is your choice whether to be nice or not, not anyone elses's choice.
---Rod4Him on 7/10/14


oh my goodness cluny. you must be in a dreamland. I have tried to be nice to you and so have others but you won't let anyone be nice to you. Im not walking on egg shells to get along with someone.
---shira4368 on 7/9/14


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\\Cluny, you have been waiting on who for years? Unless you change you will probably wait many more years.
---shira4368 on 7/9/14\\

I've been waiting for YOU to be nice to me, shira.

You say nothing to me unless it's a personal attack.

And you seem unable to handle being disagreed with or having your assumptions questioned.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/9/14


Cluny, you have been waiting on who for years? Unless you change you will probably wait many more years.
---shira4368 on 7/9/14


//May God forgive us all//

AMEN.
Shira please forgive Cluny.
May God help him to be as gentle as we would like him to be & help us to be as knowledgeable as Cluny would want us to be in Jesus' name.
---Adetunji on 7/8/14


Dear Sis.Rita, Bro.Luke and anybody else, please don't go away from Cnt.
I probably not the smartest, my english not all that but, we are a family.I used to tell my own family how much we need each other, they fight (fought) daily.
I am a peace maker and thank God for my grandmother she taught me always peace, love, forgiveness.She was right!!
Jesus taught us to pray one for another, that's what we got to do.
I say all this in love christian love.
Sincerely, with
Love of Jesus! Elena 9555
---Elena_9555 on 7/8/14


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\\I have nothing against you except you won't let me be nice to you.
---shira4368 on 7/8/14\\

I've been waiting for years.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/14


cluny all I know about you is you won't let anyone be nice to you. you insult the very ones who like you. I have nothing against you except you won't let me be nice to you.
---shira4368 on 7/8/14


\\ if you are so immature that you think you know my inner self,\\

Well, you think you know mine, shira.

As regards your apology, I forgive you.

May God forgive us all.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/14


Cluny :// this is for cluny. I am so so sorry I told you to jump off the bridge//
I am waiting for your apology to Shira also.
---Adetunji on 7/8/14


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cluny you don't and will never have any sort of experience with me...not even arguing.
---shira4368 on 7/8/14


"shira NEVER said, "I'm sorry,..."
Cluny

So, someone has to say they are sorry for you to exercerize forgiveness?

Sounds kinda whiney to me.
---Elder on 7/8/14


cluny, I don't hate and have never hated you or any part of you. if you are so immature that you think you know my inner self, I feel sorry for you. this is for cluny. I am so so sorry I told you to jump off the bridge. now I hope you are happy. have you ever told anyone to get lost? I have and they may have really gotten lost, I don't know. I don't keep up with minor stuff.
---shira4368 on 7/7/14


\\"My experience with shira is that she usually projects her own inner hostilities and misery onto me, even telling me to kill myself so I wouldn't be miserable and lonely any more."
Cluny

Whoa... such hatred and unforgiving spirit. Shira tried to get that issue right with you. I guess you conveniently missed that post.\\

shira NEVER said, "I'm sorry," but she did make it clear she wants credit for apologizing.

And I live in an apartment building dating from the 1980's.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/7/14


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"One of you has to forgive and not bring it back. I was called a dog by Nana, and since then he has not stopped. He appears everywhere ready to unleash his vengeance."
Luke on 7/7/14

Not vengeance dipstick. Look at you bringing my name to recruit sympathy like these, "And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house, and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not." (1 Timothy 5:13)

You are not a Luke or a Mark_V., you are a Lisa, just like Paul describes above (except you are an old woman).

No love for me? Never mind, keep it to yourself which is all you can do, being unable to love anything past your nose. Agape.
---Nana on 7/7/14


"My experience with shira is that she usually projects her own inner hostilities and misery onto me, even telling me to kill myself so I wouldn't be miserable and lonely any more."
Cluny

Whoa... such hatred and unforgiving spirit. Shira tried to get that issue right with you. I guess you conveniently missed that post.

Maybe you shouldn't act in such a way as to have someone tell you that. She sure didn't do it because of your defense of Christian things.

You also need to get out more and see how windows are put in houses in this century.
---Elder on 7/7/14


I believe both of you should forgive and move on. It is the same thing on all the blogs. It only shows a lack of humility. One of you has to forgive and not bring it back. I was called a dog by Nana, and since then he has not stopped. He appears everywhere ready to unleash his vengeance. Nothing else matters, only a hate that will not go away, that is not the way Jesus wants us to live. Cluny, forgive Shira, and move on, Shira, forgive Cluny, and move on. Both of your have a lot to share with others from Scripture or from life. I love you both, no matter if we disagree sometimes. Agape
---Luke on 7/7/14



\\Because if they weren't, then the saying would be "When God closes one door, He opens another door", which can actually be true\\

Which is the version of the saying I heard ---Cluny on 7/4/14


Which is, of course, a whole different saying altogether. Doors and windows are two different things, and in this case, the difference gives each saying a starkly different meaning.

In my apartment, doors and windows do not occupy the same wall.

I never suggested the door and window in the saying are on the same wall, just that they lead to the same place. How many rooms in your apartment have a window, but no door? And how often do you go through the window when the door is unlocked?
---Jed on 7/5/14


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May the Lord Jesus please bless all my Brothers and Sisters on here, my hope and faith love remains for all of you, Bro.Adetunji thankyou, Sis.Rita and others who know me, let us keep the love of God in our hearts..some people are able to like "water off a duck let old wounds heal and others for what ever festar and keep them in a pool of unforgiveness....please lets us keep this person in prayer.
We have done all we can, it's been so many months, I pray God will help those words to disolve and be the happy funny wonderfull intelligent brother, I wish you could let it go..
I am sorry, you continue not to forget and forgive,may God help you let it go.we care about you & everyone else.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 7/5/14


cluny, you have never had an experience with me. you have cut me down if that is called an experience. you even told me once I wasn't saved. I love your humor. I can read your post and instantly I can see who you are. I still like you in spite of it all. as far as the doors and windows. on the front and back I have windows beside both doors, on the same wall too. God has opened doors and shut doors for me many times. when I joined a trio we traveled a lot and I loved it but then all of a sudden God closed that door. I don't know why but He did.
---shira4368 on 7/5/14


\\Because if they weren't, then the saying would be "When God closes one door, He opens another door", which can actually be true\\

Which is the version of the saying I heard before I watched SOUND OF MUSIC, which seems to have popularized the "window" version.

In my apartment, doors and windows do not occupy the same wall.

** I understand you. I've had some encounters with him too, but our Holy Book taught us to forgive. We have to do so, in Jesus' name.
---Adetunji on 7/4/14**

My experience with shira is that she usually projects her own inner hostilities and misery onto me, even telling me to kill myself so I wouldn't be miserable and lonely any more.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/4/14


I never hold grudges but some things are still dumb. actually its just plain funny.
---shira4368 on 7/4/14


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Shira4368: Thanks, I understand you. I've had some encounters with him too, but our Holy Book taught us to forgive. We have to do so, in Jesus' name.
---Adetunji on 7/4/14


adetunji, actually I do have pretty thick skin. I stick with what I said because its true. sometimes I am negative but I am a realist also. he is rude to everyone and has a negative statement for almost everything everyone says. I think most of us are a little tired of it.
---shira4368 on 7/3/14


==then opens a window so that we can bypass the door?
---Jed on 7/1/14==

Who said the window and door were close to each other, or facing the same way?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/14


For someone who likes to brag about his superior grammar and spelling abilities, you sure are dumber than a box of rocks! The only reason a person would climb through a window is if the door leading to the same place has been locked. Why would you be looking for an open window to enter when the door is standing wide open? Logic dictates that the door and the window lead into the same place.
---Jed on 7/4/14


==then opens a window so that we can bypass the door?
---Jed on 7/1/14==

Who said the window and door were close to each other, or facing the same way?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/14


Because if they weren't, then the saying would be "When God closes one door, He opens another door", which can actually be true. And from reading Rita H's comments, it appears this is actually what she thinks the saying about the window means. But of course a door and window are two very diferent things. God open and closes doors. Saying "When God closes a door, He opens a window" indicates that the door and window lead into the same place.
---Jed on 7/3/14


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Finally NurseRoberts and I can see eye to eye on sonething. Didn't think that was possible! :)
---Jed on 6/30/14

I didnt either, Jed ,)
---NurseRobert on 7/3/14


Shira: i think you are negatively sensitive of Cluny. To me his last comment do not warrant a "stupid" label that you have attached to it. 1 Yoruba adage says, "if we do not forget the problem of yesterday, we may not have friends to play with today". No matter what Cluny might have been to you previously, please assess him carefully before blaming him. I'm not saying that Cluny is a Saint neither am i.
---Adetunji on 7/3/14


cluny, you can say some stupid stuff. I would say God put them close to each other. can you prove He did not open or close either?
---shira4368 on 7/2/14


Adetunji - thank you very much, your words are much appreciated.
---Rita_H on 7/2/14


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Rita_H: Now i understand what you were saying that Jed thought was something else. Even in my prayers, i use to ask the Lord to oppose me if i attempt to take a wrong route "that looks good". And if HE blocks me from going the wrong way, HE definitely has HIS own right way for me.
---Adetunji on 7/2/14


Luke, thank you very much. When I said "I am probably wasting my time here" I was referring to this particular blog - not to Christianet generally, although I have come close to leaving on several occasion but, instead, have gone away to 'cool off' for a period of time. 'Cooling off' is recommended !! Others here should try it I believe.
---Rita_H on 7/2/14


==then opens a window so that we can bypass the door?
---Jed on 7/1/14==

Who said the window and door were close to each other, or facing the same way?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/2/14


So God closes a door to keep us from going the wrong way, then opens a window so that we can bypass the door?
---Jed on 7/1/14


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Dear Rita,
You gave a good example of what you were thinking about when you made the statement. God does stop us many times from getting into deeper trouble. Sometimes, He permits us to get into trouble for a good reason. Our answers are only opinions on phrases given by many Christians. You don't have to leave just because someone answered you. We are all in this together. Be patient with us, we are not here to hurt anyone. Peace, Agape
---Luke on 7/1/14


Finally NurseRoberts and I can see eye to eye on sonething. Didn't think that was possible! :) Luke, I'm glad you understand my point. I have always heard the quote with "God" in it. One famous example is in the movie "The Sound of Music" toward the beginning, the nun, Sister Maria is praying and says this quote.
---Jed on 6/30/14


Adetunji I said nothing about God 'closing the door ON AN ISSUE'. When I have referred to 'doors being closed' I mean that God prevents us from going the wrong way. Some say 'He puts a stumbling block in our way'. When that happens it is to prevent a wrong action (or to slow us down long enough for us to have second thoughts) and once we are OFF the wrong track He will open the new opportunity (which some might call a door, so that we can then follow Him in the way He wishes us to go (doing what He wanted us to do in the first place until we took a wrong turn).

If English-English is as different from
American-English as this blog makes it seem to be I am probably wasting my time here.


---Rita_H on 6/30/14


Dear Jed,
I have to agree with your answer to Rita. Only if the word "God" is not used in the sentence. I have also heard,
"when a door closes sometimes another door is open"
What I got from that is that many times a door opens to get a particular job you wanted so bad, and didn't get it, then another door opens, so do not worry when one opportunity closes. Sometimes the second opportunity is better then the first.
But if "God" closes a door, and you can go in the window doesn't sound right. Like sneaking in the back way. Agape
---Luke on 6/30/14


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Nowhere have I said that something has come from the bible when it hasn't. You, Jed, choose not to see where I am coming from and must have 'your own agenda' for that so I will leave the subject where it is now and move on.
---Rita_H on 6/30/14


Rita, I'm having trouble understanding this. "God is preparing us to do some particular work in His name" why would he block our way? I would think that God would fling open the doors wide so we could accomplish what he wants.

Personal opinion, sometime people use their own desires to accomplish something, something that God had no intention for us to do.
---NurseRobert on 6/30/14


Rita_H: Jed has a very good point that you seem not to understand. God is not like the earthly politicians or diplomats to close a door on an issue or in a particular direction AND also open a window there. It is possible that your own meaning of the phrase may be different from his.
---Adetunji on 6/30/14


Rita, I'm not being antagonistic. Remember, I am the one who brought up the errant quote. It is you who began the argument with me. So please don't tell me that I'm being antagonistic. I was merely pointing out the dangers of spreading religious sayings that don't come from the Bible. My stance remains. When God closes a door, he doesn't open a window. His no's mean no. You can continue to use the saying if you like. I don't care. I look to God's Word for my inspiration and answers, not man made chiches.
---Jed on 6/29/14


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Jed - your comments on my comments are becoming more antagonistic. I have to assume that you are having a very boring weekend and wish to amuse yourself at my expense.

I ceased playing such games when I was about 4 years old.

If you don't wish to read my contributions carefully and seriously think about what I say, I suggest you don't read them at all.

High blood pressure will not be good for you.
---Rita_H on 6/29/14



It is a fact that, when God is preparing us to do some particular work in His name He provides the way and the means for us to do that.

---Rita_H on 6/29/14


Then that is Him opening the door, not closing it. Saying "When God closes a door, He opens a window" implies that when God says "no" he doesn't really mean "no". If God tells us to do something, why would he close the door? He doesn't
---Jed on 6/29/14


Jed, too much emphasis is being made of the words door and window here, I believe. Don't take them too literally, they are just words.

It is a fact that, when God is preparing us to do some particular work in His name He provides the way and the means for us to do that. There will usually be other people involved with this also (who will be part of His preparation) and the shape of the way through which He will lead us just does not matter as it will be His way - a door, a window a tunnel, over a bridge etc - and it makes no difference. All we are asked to do is obey.
---Rita_H on 6/29/14


Geraldine: // Even forgiven, the sins haunt me//
A Yoruba adage says, "when you give a goat to someone, you drop the rope used to lead it there from your hand". If one has truely confessed, repented & has received God's justification through Jesus , one feels no guilt anymore but can testify that God has forgiven & relieved from guilt. If not, repeat confession & repentance again until God relieves you.
---Adetunji on 6/28/14


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Geraldine, your spiritual OCD, otherwise known as scrupulosity, is showing again.

This is NOT a matter that can be dealt with on line. You need a good spiritual director to help you work through these issues face-to-face.

I don't know if you are familiar with the Apostles' Creed, but it says, "I believe in the forgiveness of sins." In other words, Christian doctrine requires you to believe that your sins are forgiven.

Try praying that your emotions will catch up with what you know in your head to be true.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/14


My problem with the "When God closes a door He opens window" saying is that it isn't true or biblical at all. Instead the Bible says that God opens doors that no man can shut, and He closes doors that no man can open. Meaning that when God closes a door the door stays closed. When He says "no" that means "no". And when He says "yes" He means "yes". You don't go looking for a window to climb through in order to circumvent God's answer. If He doesn't say "no" then that means he did not close the door, just that there may have been an obstacle in your way.
---Jed on 6/26/14


Cluny, in my head I know casting care on Him is right, but past sins won't let me feel welcome at His side. Even forgiven, the sins haunt me.
---Geraldine on 6/27/14


Dear Geraldine,
The best thing to do is not create something and try to compare it to a Bible verse. Jed is correct, I believe when Christians began to use languages or sentences not found in the Bible, people do begin to believe it is in the Bible. A few people here use a lot of language words and mix them together with other words to make it sound like they are very holy. One context mixed with another context that really makes no sense. Just use a Bible verse, but don't put your own spin on it. There is just so many great phrases in the Bible. Just my thoughts Agape
---Luke on 6/27/14


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Geraldine: God must be 1st. God's word must be your pathfinder to other things. God's word leads you to the right way to live. Choosing what looks good to you & trying to find the word of God that matches it can lead you to serious error.
---Adetunji on 6/27/14


Geraldine, the Bible says, "Cast all your cares upon Him, because He cares for you."

And that means when you cast your cares upon God, don't go trying to grab them back!

I think you would do better to adopt this verse than sayings you make up on your own.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/14


"When God closes a door He opens a window."

I have heard this many times and have had it said to me when someone wished to help keep me from desparing but NEVER was I told that it was in the bible. It was said to me meaning that we should not feel that God is no longer around just because He is not doing things in the way we expect. We might assume it will be the door but sometimes it's the window and sometimes He acts via something totally unexpected.
---Rita_H on 6/26/14


Hello,Sis.Geraldine,in fairness,
I got to agree with Bro.Jed, we have to.be carefull,these "chiches"
not good not biblical at all.
One famous one people use "God helps those who help them selves!"
That's NON Unbiblical all together, the Bible teaches love others!
Do good unto others..if this
the case the man sick hanging by the side of the road,he would have probably DIED.seeing how this saying TELLS people just mind their own business forget about the next guy...
God bless you,Sister and everyone.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 6/26/14


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I kind of have a small problem (just a little) with people adopting religious sayings like this that don't actually come from the Bible. They often time get spread around and become cliches. Until people actually think it is from the Bible, and people accept them as gospel truth. Often times they are started by motivational television preachers, like Joyce Meyers. When I was a kid, I remember a saying "a broken bone is a sign of rebellion". Whenever someone had a broken bone, they were chastised for being rebellious and given additional punishment. It wasn't till I was an adult that I discovered that quote is not actually in the Bible. Another example: "When God closes a door He opens a window".
---Jed on 6/25/14


You're getting OCD again, Geraldine.

Just relax in God's love. He's always helping you.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/25/14


Scott1, thanks, helped me remember Proverb 3:5-6, Trust God not self and He will direct your paths.
---Geraldine on 6/25/14


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