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Why are some Christians in favor of abortion while against capital punishment?

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Hazy: You & your lot should repent of your unholy grumbling & perpetual faultfinding. (Jude 1:16) It's not one bit Christlike.

I will no longer pay any attention to your childish, foolish antics. If it's your heart's desire, feel free to bark at the moon until judgment day.
---Leon on 7/5/14


No one here has said God is okay with murder---Leon

So you, NurseRob, Peter, StrongAxe all oppose abortion and I assume see it as murder. If so then we all agree.

If you agree abortion is murder then that implies you agree that the unborn have the same right to life as you have.

So then WHY would ANY Christian then support the pro-choice lie of the Left? To vote for the Left is to give them YOUR consent for easier abortions/murder. When the Left win government they are given a mandate, by the likes of YOU who vote for them, to pass laws for easier abortions/murder.

If you were genuinely against abortion then that would be reflected in how you vote. Do you think God is ok with Christians consenting to murder?
---Haz27 on 7/5/14


I feel so sorry & pray for your deliverance Shira. The adder really has you under his spell. That's why you can't think straight, i.e., are confused.

Who are you talking to Jed, your inner Gollum?
---Leon on 7/5/14


So, now you are saying that you are against abortion, but you still believe that people should have the choice to have abortions, even though it is wrong? Okay, so are you an anarchist then? Certainly you're not pro-choice about acts as heinous as abortion, but not pettier offenses like speeding and theft! If you think such evils as abortion should be a choice, then you must feel the same way about all crimes, since few crimes are as heinous as abortion. Unless you don't truly view abortion as a heinous act, and you think speeding and theft are worse than abortion? If so, you are truly a sick, twisted individual.
---Jed on 7/5/14


Leon, Peter, StrongAxe. Perhaps you're willing to answer the question that NurseRob refuses to answer.

You claim your against abortion, but you support pro-choice. With that in mind, do you believe that unborn babies have the right to life just as much as you and I do?
---Haz27 on 7/5/14




nurse Robert if it can be figured out elder can do it. God did give us a choice and some have chose to murder humans before they have a chance to breath their first breath. it is only called a fetus in the mothers womb. that does not mean its not a living heart beating little person. we all pay for our choices. I have made some bad ones but murder isn't one of them.
---shira4368 on 7/5/14


"Elder, you're talking samantics and you know it."
Nurse Robert

No sir I am not. But if I were how come you can and I cant?

For the information of all who want to know there is no difference except age progression and development.
So, if its OK to murder a fetus why not a Senior Citizen? They cost a lot more.

Since no one really knows all of what is in ACA/Obama Care anything can be added at anytime. Now of course the Liberals will deny that but they cant prove it wont or doesnt all ready happen.

And Haz, yes you have proven exactly who you are and I love you for it! Continue on as the voice of sanity.
---Elder on 7/5/14


"...Just because God allows us to sin, does not mean He is ok with us murdering an infant. If He was pro-choice, it would mean He is ok with us choosing to sin,[?] and He is not...."
---Luke on 7/5/14


Luke: Your presumption is very inaccurate. No one here has said God is okay with murder of any kind. But, God is Holy & allows (chooses to let) us (mankind) freely choose to do right or wrong. The Bible is very clear about that! That's the sense in which I mean by "God is pro-choice" in that He let's us choose one way or the other. Of course, there are always consequences to our actions. The Bible says God hates sin. Murder is sin, so we know God isn't okay with that!
---Leon on 7/5/14


Elder, you're talking samantics and you know it. The insurance HL provided did cover these methods of birth control, just like their 401s were invested in the companies that designed and sold them.

As for the rest of your post.. you're a smart man, you figure it out.

Haz, as far as your concerned, you've already proven who you are.
---NurseRobert on 7/5/14


Luke, I know StrongAxe very well in real life. I also know he is against abortion as retroactive birth control.

When he says "God is pro-choice," StrongAxe means that God allows us to make moral choices. It does not follow from this that all our choices are morally good, or even neutral, or that our choices may not have bad effects in this life and (apart from God's mercy) the next.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/5/14




Strongaxe,
God is not pro-choice. If He was He would not punish those who slaughter an infant who was given life by God. God is not alright with anyone sucking the brains out of the skull of an infant.
Just because God allows us to sin, does not mean He is ok with us murdering an infant. If He was pro-choice, it would mean He is ok with us choosing to sin, and He is not. That argument does not hold any water. Agape
---Luke on 7/5/14


"Elder, Hobby Lobby certain did offer the abortion pill..."
NursreRobert

Wrong again! An Insurance Company they used for their employees may have provided baby Death Pills.

But any way, please tell me the major difference in a "fetus" a newborn baby, adolescence, teen, young adult or a senior adult.

By the way you have never explained to me just when a fetus becomes a human being.

If you answer I'll tell you just what I do for the poor and needy providing you are willing to match just 1/4.
---Elder on 7/5/14


NurseRob. You persist with your attempts to distract attention away from the Left's evils. The issue of the Left's discrimination against the right to life of the unborn is clearly a point your determined to avoid.

Your charge of bigotry against those Christian bakers is a charge that would accurately apply to liberals.
Narrow-mindedness and intolerance are a couple of the core values for the Left.

Now back to the issue you persistently avoid.
You claim your against abortion, but oddly are also pro-choice. Do you also believe that unborn babies have the right to life just as much as you and I do?
---Haz27 on 7/5/14


No, Haz, I was saying the complaints against the baker were ridiculous. Someone wants to be a bigot and not want my business.. fine, I go somewhere else. I love how you twist things. That'
s ok, though, I know you can,t do any better..

YOU on the other hand still ignore the question. Is it because YOU HAVE NO ANSWER? Yeah, that probably is.
---NurseRobert on 7/4/14


NurseRob. I thought you'd have worked out that your attempts to distract attention away from the evils of the Left will not work.
BTW, we all know the Left offer nothing more to help the needy than those on the right.

And thanks for confirming that you ignore discrimination.
Discrimination against the right of unborn babies to live, the rights of Christians, etc, is not discrimination according to you. You even said such claims of discrimination are "ridiculous".

An unborn baby's right to life is equal to your right to life. The Left's discrimination against the right to life of the unborn should be called out for the evil it is. But you claim this is being "ridiculous". That says a lot.
---Haz27 on 7/4/14


Haz, Your lack of action speaks volumes. I see the discrimination you complain about and think it's ridiculous. Your "emotional investment" in the right wing blinds you to the needs of the poor people of this world. You champion children not yet born, but ignore them afterwards.

Trav thanks for joining. I know what they are saying, but I see God from a different perspective than you or them. I know you and the others think you have a mainline to God, but something tells me He is not happy with you either.

Luke, the question IS are you helping the poor. Your answer is also no.

Elder, Hobby Lobby certain did offer the abortion pill before ACA, they admitted it, claiming they knew nothing about it.
---NursreRobert on 7/4/14


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'Axe: I truly believe Jed, Jerry, Haz, etc., know better, but they just likes to fan the flames of discord by playing the devil's advocate.

Yes indeed, God is "pro-choice". The Bible bears that out from Gen.-Rev. There's no disputing it, LOGICALLY that is! :/
---Leon on 7/4/14


StrongAxe. Your argument still fails.

There are those in society who want to rape or kill, etc. There are laws against such actions, which offers protection of the rights of others.

But the issue liberals avoid is whether an unborn baby has the right to life. It's clear that because the baby has no voice and is out of sight therefore it's ok to kill them.

Liberals here claim they oppose abortion, but they support the right of others to choose abortion without penalty.

This is like saying you oppose rape, killing, stealing, but you support the right of others to choose these acts without penalty.

Why do liberals reject the right to life of babies?
---Haz27 on 7/4/14


Jed:

God is "pro-choice" with regards to sin. He could make sin physically impossible, but he lets us CHOOSE (and bear the consequences). He could have stopped Adam from eating the fruit (and dooming billions to die later) but he didn't.

The fact that you minimalize the act of abortion to the extent that you view it as the moral equivalent to smoking, instead of murder or rape, is proof that you ARE pro-abortion.

I didn't say I support the right to choose - I was referring to anti-abortion pro-choice people. It is possible to disagree with X, while at the same time supporting someone else's right to choose X - regardless of what X is. Please learn how to make proper logical inferences.
---StrongAxe on 7/4/14


//That being said, a clear majority of those in the US support abortion, in one form or the other. So, if "majority rules" then we would have abortions anyway.//

NurseRoberts,
As Christians we do not belong to the world, we are not under its rule. God has laws set for us and breaking those laws is sin against God. Abortion use to be illegal. As we all know the Democratic movement changed all that.
Arguing back and forth is not going to change the hearts of anyone. Only God can change a heart when He put's the love of Christ in our hearts. Supporting the slaughter of an infant, whom God gave life to is murder. The question then is, would a person with the love of Christ vote for murder? I don't think so.
---Luke on 7/4/14


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Peter. You claim that laws banning murder are ok and "automatic", but laws relating to murdering an unborn baby are not automatic? Are you saying there's doubt about the right to life of the unborn?

Liberals here profess to be against abortion, yet they support it because it's "pro-choice".

Liberals here have not even mentioned the right to life of the unborn. For them rights to abortion, smoking, drinking, etc, are worthy of support, instead of the right to life of the voiceless unborn.

Reality is the heartless Left dominate public debate/thought through mainstream media, universities, etc. As leftist Tammy Bruce admitted in her book, the Left are the thought police of USA manipulating public opinion.
---Haz27 on 7/4/14


That's a very balanced & logical explanation---Leon

Leon, you claim that it's "very balanced and logical" to liken the right to smoke and drink with the right to kill an unborn baby, thus denying his/her right to life.

Are you sure about your earlier claim to oppose abortion? Your support for arguments that place the right to smoke and drink as higher than the right to life for an unborn baby, certainly seems to contradict your claim about opposing abortion.
---Haz27 on 7/4/14


Peter. I suggested preaching the gospel when this debate first started. Conversion is the best, first step.

As for the arguments offered by the liberals here to justify the Left's endorsement for baby killing, it's all been twisted thinking so far.

NurseRob. The separation of church and state was designed by mostly Christians to prevent one religion ruling, such as RC rule over Europe. But what we see is the religion of Humanism ruling instead.

The Humanist Left bring in laws that trample of the rights of the majority. The rights of the selfish and deviant trump that of babies and Christian majority, as this debate has revealed.
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


Haz27 on 7/3/14: 'Nana gave figures before that the majority of American claim to be Christian.'

That is interesting.

But the real question is whether they REALLY ARE Christian.

If they are not, our first business is not to force them to follow Christian morals - it is to convert them to Christianity

In any case, the question is (as so often) what Christian 'law' should be enforced on people who are not Christian.

I would not accept a 'real' Christian having an abortion, clearly. But how much do we stop ALL Americans, when some are 'real' Christians, some are 'nominal Christians' and some are unbelievers. I can't say it is 'automatic' that we ban it.
---Peter on 7/3/14


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StrongAxe, instead of using a non-equivalent example like tobacco, let's actually pick an actiin equal to infant murder, like say rape. Now, if I said something ridiculous like "I believe in legalized rape, but I don't support rape, and I would never rape anyone, but I think others should have the right to make that choice to rape if they want to", would you then say that I'm not pro-rape, just pro-choice?

The fact that you minimalize the act of abortion to the extent that you view it as the moral equivalent to smoking, instead of murder or rape, is proof that you ARE pro-abortion.
---jed on 7/3/14


---Haz27 on 7/3/14

Haz, StrongAxe never said that and never insinuated that. What is your problem?

Second, your answer here shows a lack of understanding of US Law. Our Constitution forbids the government from making laws based on religious belief, be it Christian or others.

We live in a republic rather than a pure democracy. Our founders put a number of protections in place to make sure that the majority didnt trample over the minority.

That being said, a clear majority of those in the US support abortion, in one form or the other. So, if "majority rules" then we would have abortions anyway.

---NurseRobert on 7/3/14


Peter. There are many Christian morals already in place in the law. Laws against murder are one example. So why not add abortion/murder to that Christian law that's already in place.

Nana gave figures before that the majority of American claim to be Christian. If that's true, why not have laws against abortion that reflect this majority?

I guess a big part of the problem is Christians who support the Left in spite of its anti-Christian agenda.

As we see here on CN, liberals think the right to smoke and drink is more important than the right of an unborn baby to live.
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


The proper idea is to first have people become Christian.....

Then, those individuals would not want to have an abortion

This whole argument is a waste of time

The idea of putting Christian morals in a non-Christian country is a waste of time
---Peter on 7/3/14


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That's a very balanced & logical explanation 'Axe. Unfortunately, the out-backwards, out of balance illogic that Haz...SUPPORTS will never agree with you...

He/she conveniently "chooses" to miss your comparative point which proves mine: You can't teach an ol' kangaroo new tricks! :)
---Leon on 7/3/14


StrongAxe. Why do you equate your examples with tobacco and alcohol with the killing of babies?

Is the abortion/murder of thousands of babies per day in the same category as legislation on tobacco and alcohol?

Is the right to smoke and drink greater than an unborn baby's right to life?
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


Jed:

You said: And you choose to support legalized abortion, thus becoming guilty of murder.

This is making two logical non-sequiturs.

First, supporting someone's right to choose something is not the same as supporting that thing yourself. (For eample, I loathe tobacco, but agree that it should not be a crime to possess it).

Second, believing something should be legal does not make you guilty of it. (For example, the fact that I believe alcohol is sometimes reasonable (as do Timothy and Ecclesiastes) doesn't make me a drunk.)
---StrongAxe on 7/2/14


zealots say we can't choose no other way other than the way they dictate---Leon

Leon, considering you're "pro-choice" stance on abortion, your quote above shows you up as a hypocrite.

You support the Left in spite of its dominant role in "pro-choice" legislation for easy abortion/murder. So you are supporting these heartless Leftist zealots dictating to society that unborn babies have no right to life. That the murder of thousands of babies PER DAY (in USA alone), is of no consequence.

Whilst you did eventually concede that abortion is wrong, your continued support for those who push for easier abortion contradicts your claim of being against abortion.
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


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Leon,
Did you not say before that from now on you were going to fast and pray for those who disagreed with you instead of calling them names?
Now you call those who want to save the life of a child "religious zealots" because they disagree with you.
You do have a choice, you can stand for the life of the child or you can stand with those who murder them. We should follow the laws of the country, but only when they do not go against the principles of God. If the love of Christ was in you, you would never vote, or even think of permitting the death of so many children. It was God who gave them life. Sucking the brains out of the baby with a vacuum is murders at the highest level. You should fast and pray. Agape
---Luke on 7/3/14


"...You think your constitutional rights free you from the principles of God, but they don't..."---Luke on 7/2/14

I don't know how you came to that bizarre conclusion Luke! That's not what I believe nor said.

Until the light comes on (you get the revelation), I don't see any further sense in me discussing this with you. Clearly, you don't understand what I'm saying. God bless.
---Leon on 7/2/14


// That's absolutely a false judgment by religious zealots who're trying to "FORCE THEIR WILL" upon all who disagree with their tactics.//

Leon, did you even stop to think that these people you call religious zealots are trying to keep with the principles of God? I know you disagree, you call them zealots. You think your constitutional rights free you from the principles of God, but they don't. Only those not born of God speak against God's principles, why do you? If you do not want to be a slave to God, don't pretend you are. You either defend the life of the unborn out of the love God gave you, or you don't, because you do not have that love. You can be a part of their murder. It is up to you.
---Luke on 7/2/14


/In the USA people (saved & unsaved) have a God-given & constitutionally guaranteed freedom of choice!\-Leon on 7/2/14
I hadn't seen that right in the constitution. Maybe you can quote it out for us?
Otherwise, it might just be a view that is not necessarily based on facts or knowledge.
As for the blog, capital punishment (death for those that take life and do not value it) was commanded to all mankind since Noah.
Abortion, on the other hand, is just that, taking a life and not valuing it.
One is a just judgment, the other is murder and deserves a just judgment.
Gen 9:5-6
---micha9344 on 7/2/14


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Have you seen the movie Luke? Peter spoke on people who falsely accuse others, e.g., the scribes & pharisees against Jesus.

There's a lot of ungodly psycho-babble about pro-choice people allegedly being pro-abortion. That's absolutely a false judgment by religious zealots who're trying to "FORCE THEIR WILL" upon all who disagree with their tactics.

God established governments to give us a reasonable measure of social order & civility. In the USA people (saved & unsaved) have a God-given & constitutionally guaranteed freedom of choice! But, religious zealots say we can't choose no other way other than the way they dictate. They presumptiously usurp God's will & try to force theirs upon us all!
---Leon on 7/2/14


Dear Leon,
I could not make the connection between the movie and what I stated. Peter is correct, we make judgments on what we see or read. I know I do. I have no other way of knowing the other person personally. Second, we don't know who God has saved, or will save. They could sound not saved, but later God could save them. That is why I never worry if someone is going to heaven or hell. I don't make that call. I still believe if a person believes in abortion and votes for it, that person could not possibly be saved. But that is my own judgment. That person could be save later if they are not saved now. Maybe they are saved already, but making stupid decisions against the commandments of God.
Salvation is of the Lord. Agape
---Luke on 7/2/14


That's a very astute observation & good point Peter.
---Leon on 7/1/14


Given the people who insist (on this site) that someone is 'in favor of abortion', I assume that many people here would have said many things about Jesus in those days

People would have said that because Jesus said to pay taxes to Caesar (who was pagan) - Jesus was pagan

For example

The methods used here for accusing people fall outside of any form of logic that any ten year old would know, but people still use these accusations
---Peter on 7/1/14


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Luke: Your comments remind me of a movie I saw, "The Family That Preys" wherein two best girlfriends, middle-aged women, are taking a road trip together. There's a scene in the movie where they drive upon a church congregation baptizing members in a creek. One of the ladies, seemingly a christian, insists her unsaved girlfriend get baptized. So, with a lot of prodding & the permission of the baptizing pastor, that's what happens. What saddened me was the obvious fact that the woman religiously went into the water an unrepentant sinner & came out the same. Though perhaps a genuinely good person, there was no christian conversion prior to her water baptism. Later in the movie, when she died, I wondered where'd she go.
---Leon on 7/1/14


//So really, there is no change in them. Agape//
So really they are not and were not Christian.
They may have walked an aisle and repeated some words, maybe even dunked in the creek, but if there is no change, they are not Christian.
---michael_e on 7/1/14


//Why are some Christians in favor of abortion//

because they want their freedom from God. They want to be Christians so God can save them, yet they don't want God to impose His will on them. When they accept Jesus, they do not accept Him as Lord. They want to remain free to do what they want. Just as they were when they were lost, at enmity against God. So really, there is no change in them. Agape
---Luke on 7/1/14


//Why are some Christians in favor of abortion?//
I don't believe there are any true "Christians" in favor of abortion.

---michael_e on 6/30/14


Totally agree here. Jerry can you name any Christian who is in favor of abortion, and with that prove that person is a Christian?

And then Leon wants to know if CN is for debating or relating!

I guess it depends on the question posted. But really Jerry, to make such a statement is to make a lie. A lie is no question at all!
---kathr4453 on 6/30/14


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\//Why are some Christians in favor of abortion?//
I don't believe there are any true "Christians" in favor of abortion.
---michael_e on 6/30/14\\

What one believes about Jesus Christ makes him a Christian, not what he believes about abortion.

I say this as a man who was named in a $39 MILLION lawsuit for merely praying silently across the streets from the chop shops.

I had no idea my poor prayers would cause them that much damage, but I sure hope they did.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/30/14


//Why are some Christians in favor of abortion?//
I don't believe there are any true "Christians" in favor of abortion.
---michael_e on 6/30/14


Jed: Your great swelling, constant accusatory & acidic words are a complete ungodly LIE! You don't know me or my voting record & you certainly don't know my heart.

True, the Bible does makes it very clear everyone (that includes you too) is responsible for our choice & God has given us free will to do so. You have no right to pontificate legalism by trying to make people choose based on your twisted opinions.

While it's true God did prepare hell & the Lake of Fire for Satan & his demons, Rev. 21:8 says they're not the only ones who'll wind up there. All liars, LIKE YOU, will face God's "capital punishment" in the Lake of Fire also.

Repent before it's too late Jed!
---Leon on 6/30/14




Didn't God given us all the ability to choose? ---Leon on 6/29/14


Yes He did. And you choose to support legalized abortion, thus becoming guilty of murder. Just because we have been given the ability to choose, doesn't mean that we are not responsible for those choices. The Bible makes it clear that those who stand by and allow evil, are as guilty as those who committed the sin. In your case, you are not merely standing by, but you are an active participant, having actually voted for legalized abortion.

Didn't God prepare hell & the Lake of Fire as maximum security prisons to house sinful criminals "for life"?
---Leon on 6/29/14


Nope. He created hell for Satan and his demons.
---Jed on 6/29/14


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Warwick: Thanks. Your story illustrates my thesis perfectly.


Axster: "Why don't you turn your own question around: Why do so many Christians say they are pro-life, yet support capital punishment and gun rights and oppose social welfare programs?"

Because they believe the Bible which forbids abortion, upholds capital punishment and self-defense, and proscribes indolence.

Why don't you believe the Bible?



---jerry6593 on 6/30/14


because we like to avoid consequences of our actions and make excuses.
Have a one night stand, affair and get pregnant have an abortion.
Be filled with hate and murder someone, "I am sure they had a good reason to" (this is an example of an excuse)
---Scott1 on 6/30/14


By the way, pro-choice isn't pro-abortion.
---Leon on 6/28/14

Actually it is. If you don't stand against baby murder...then...you're okay with it.[?] Just because YOU didn't have an abortion personally, doesn't mean you won't be accountable for voting for it, or even standing by idle and doing nothing about it.

BTW: life in prison is far more inhumane and barbaric than a death sentence.
---Jed on 6/29/14


Jed: Of course this is nothing but more twisted opinions that you're trying to hoodwink us with & shove down our throats. Didn't God given us all the ability to choose? Didn't God prepare hell & the Lake of Fire as maximum security prisons to house sinful criminals "for life"?
---Leon on 6/29/14


shira and love.jesus are both misunderstanding what I'm saying.

If heretics are executed, what government functionaries will determine what is correct teaching and what is heresy?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/29/14


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Jerry, I once had a 'discussion' with an ardent supporter of abortion, at a social gathering. Those listening were amazed when she then said she was against capital punishment. It seems the amazing hypocrisy of her stand had never dawned upon her: that she approved of killing the helpless innocents, but would not support the execution of monsters who kill and maim. However her listeners surely got the point.

BTW I am not an ardent supporter of capital punishment unless there is no doubt at all about guilt. History and DNA testing has shown that numerous innocent people have been executed.
---Warwick on 6/29/14


Cluny: 'Since most Western Christians (Protestants and Roman Catholics) are heretics in one way or other'

There I disagree with you, but let us not just argue.

Can you pick some 'beliefs' for a particular denomination (list both belief and denomination) and explain why (if it's not obvious) why that belief is heretical.

Then we can discuss this in a more 'specific' way.
---Peter on 6/29/14


jerry6593:

Why don't you turn your own question around: Why do so many Christians say they are pro-life, yet support capital punishment and gun rights and oppose social welfare programs? It's as if their concern for precious life ends the moment the child is born - after that, his life is his own responsibility, and of no further concern of theirs.

What about the hypocrisy of conservatives who scream over the death of babies, yet cheer the death of sinners (like them, as per John, all Christians are sinners, and those who say they're not deceive themselves)?
---StrongAxe on 6/29/14


Cluny, you have no idea what you are saying about western religion being heretics. Are you a heretic? I'm saved by the Blood of Jesus. Does that make the saved all heretics?
---shira4368 on 6/29/14


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Cluny, you are undoubtedly right. It doesn't matter because God is sending everyone to hell but the Orthodox. I guess I will be going too. God's will be done.
---love.jesus on 6/29/14


\\Do you think capital punishment for heresy would be appropriate? After all, it causes people to lose their souls for ever.
---love.jesus on 6/28/1\\

Since most Western Christians (Protestants and Roman Catholics) are heretics in one way or other, what do YOU think?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/29/14


Jed, I did not use the word 'murder'. I said 'killing'.

MY answer is MY answer. I don't ask others to agree with me.
---Rita_H on 6/29/14


This blog is intended to showcase the hypocrisy of bleeding heart liberals who cry over the just death of hardened criminal monsters while remaining indifferent to the millions of innocent babies murdered annually.

And NO, life in prison without parole is NOT capital punishment. It is taxpayer funded permanent vacation.




---jerry6593 on 6/29/14


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Capital punchishment Gospel style. If your eye offends you pluck it out if your arm offends you cut it off. Better to go through life without it than going to hell because of it. If your child murders people. What would you want done with them? You want them free on the streets? Do you want them dead an in hell? No to both!!! I think life in prison they still have a chances to make it to heaven. But free in Society no. They just proved they can't hand the freedom that was given to them.
---Bryan on 6/29/14



By the way, pro-choice isn't pro-abortion.
---Leon on 6/28/14


Actually it is. If you don't stand against baby murder, then that means you're okay with it. Just because YOU didn't have an abortion personally, doesn't mean you won't be accountable for voting for it, or even standing by idle and doing nothing about it.

BTW: life in prison is far more inhumane and barbaric than a death sentence.
---Jed on 6/29/14


Do you think capital punishment for heresy would be appropriate? After all, it causes people to lose their souls for ever.
---love.jesus on 6/28/14


Why are you against BOTH Cluny? By the way, pro-choice isn't pro-abortion.

I agree Elena. My idea of capital punishment is "life in prison" without any possibility of parole, permanently cutoff & totally isolation from civilized society. In cases of persons who are given life sentences & are later exonerated, based upon revealed evidence of innocence, I think they should be freed & compensated for the irreparable damages done to their lives.
---Leon on 6/28/14


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Once you have befriended a death row inmate and had Christian fellowship with him or her, it becomes very difficult to wish that person dead.
---love.jesus on 6/28/14



However, I DID know some one who was both pro-choice and pro-capital punishment. And he was a Christian.
-Cluny on 6/28/14


That's interesting. I didn't know Christians supported the murder of innocent babies.


I'm against both - killing is still killing. I have no idea why others feel that one is right and the other wrong.
---Rita_H on 6/28/14


While both are indeed killing. Only one is murder. The other one is justice. Huge difference. Don't confuse killing with murder.
---Jed on 6/28/14


Hello,Serious subject,worthy of an answer.I am definitely against abortion but
Yes! I support capital punishment.
People so wicked being a complete danger to our society
yes! that person should get capital punishment. The legal system hi must be completely BE Sure it's the right person guilty..

not like what happen here a month ago this poor guy spent 8 yrs.he was innocent.DNA was not his! falsely sent to prison for rape he did not do.
They finally let him go.
So it's a serious not rush
take due process and give a fair trial /conclusion.

Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 6/28/14


\\Why do you think there are Christians in favor of abortion & against capital punishment? Please cite the evidence of your accusation.
---Leon on 6/28/14\\

I knew one.

I myself am against both.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/14


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Just the facts Love, facts only! To suppose anyone does anything based on what you think, NOT KNOW, is dangerous & unfairly slanderous.
---Leon on 6/28/14


"I'm against both - killing is still killing. I have no idea why others feel that one is right and the other wrong."
---Rita_H on 6/28/14


Capital punishment: the legally authorized killing of someone as punishment for a crime. (Source: Google definitions)

Rita: Abortion is MURDER (the taking of innocent life). Capital punishment is killing of guilty criminals for having taken innocent life.
Sinning against God has put the whole human race under the death penalty, capital punishment. As Christians, we know Jesus paid the price (died) in our place for sin. Otherwise our penalty would be to die in our sins, eternally condemned in death.
---Leon on 6/28/14


I misread what you said, Leon.

However, I DID know some one who was both pro-choice and pro-capital punishment.

And he was a Christian.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/28/14


There is a certain party that takes every opportunity to victimize the innocent and protect the evil. The more decent you are the more you are at risk for attack from the left. While criminals and predators are made into heroes. Welcome to the Obamanation. I know, I know, there have been idiots with this mindset since long before Obama. So before those idiots start jumping on me for blaming him, no, I'm not saying he caused it. But he is their leader/god for the time being.
---Jed on 6/28/14


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Why do you think there are Christians in favor of abortion & against capital punishment? Please cite the evidence of your accusation.
---Leon on 6/28/14


I'm against both - killing is still killing.

I have no idea why others feel that one is right and the other wrong.
---Rita_H on 6/28/14


I suppose because they hate babies and love criminals.
---love.jesus on 6/28/14


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