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Haz27:

You wrote: We all know those bakers in USA who suffered for not baking wedding cake.

It's curious many Christians tilt at windmills Jesus never mentioned (e.g. the above baker), but would he refuse to bake a cake for a divorced person (something Jesus DID mention), or an atheist, or a Hindu? I think that's unlikely.

Then why do you always support the Left who are at the forefront pushing for abortion/murder of babies for any reason?

Many left vs. right agendas today resemble Jesus vs. Pharisees 2000 years ago - but you'll point out that many are different too. Mussolini made the trains run on time - does that make anyone who likes punctuality a fascist? Please use proper logical inferences.
---StrongAxe on 7/4/14


How did the actions of some people affect Sodom or the world of Noah? Are we to accept all actions of everyone except God?

Just like Hobby Lobby. They never offered the abortion pill and such to their employees before Obama "care" and nothing was said. Now all of a sudden the baby killers are screaming for not getting to murder babies for free.

Now the unholy trio supports this action with vengeance.
---Elder on 7/4/14


Love.Jesus,
It is possible for a person to be a Democrat and still be a Christian. And it is possible to be a Republican and be a Christian. I am talking about individuals. Only if they follow the principles God set for all Christians. There is Republicans who vote for abortion as individuals. The same holds true for the Democrats.
Not every body in the party votes as the party believes they should vote.
But as a whole the Democrats are for abortion.
The question is not whether we help the poor, the question is whether we support the terrible murder of an infant whom was given life to by God. What is important is, what is in your heart at the time you vote, the love of God or the desire to do the will of Satan to murder.
---Luke on 7/4/14


Peter. I find it hard to believe you're not aware the Left is always backing the agenda of the deviant (I dare not use the "G_y" word as CN will not post, although NurseRob got away with it). The wedding cake issue was a case where the rights of Christian bakers were trampled upon by an activist judiciary who see the deviant having superior rights. There are many other examples of this discrimination too.

NurseRob. You're a typical leftist. Conveniently not seeing anything wrong unless the Left dictates its wrong.

Your emotional investment in the Left blinds you to the trampled rights, killing babies, etc, pushed by the Left. Of course you will continue to try to distract debate away from the Left's evils.
---Haz27 on 7/4/14


NO! The Democrat party is the party of evil.



---jerry6593 on 7/4/14




For Haz, Jed, Elder, and the rest of the anti-abortion crowd.: ....
Last chance. What are YOU doing to help the poor?
---NurseRobert on 7/2/14

The many ways of being poor. You are one of the poorest....in understanding and scriptural witnesses for your positions.
These men have tried to feed you bread of scriptural context, yet you crave the abominable feast of your own soup logic.
1Co_6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

Luk_4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
---Trav on 7/4/14


NurseRob. Further examples of how leftist tyranny impacts us, apart from the thousands of babies killed each day.

The leftist dominated media, politicians, etc hide the fact of the epidemic of STDs that arise every year in Sydney thanks to the deviant mardi gra. The media promote the event but remain silent on the harm it causes.

Our PC military discriminate against Christian personnel who seek to support pro-life marches. BUT, the military do support the deviant pride event. DISCRIMINATION against Christians is ok. But the military's PC favourites, the deviants, are given superior rights. They even pay for gender change operations for deviants, with our taxes!
---Haz27 on 7/4/14


"NurseRob and Leon. I know many lefties like yourselves and they do no extra to help the needy than conservatives. Your false claim that somehow the Left are more caring is typical leftist propaganda designed to deceive, and in this case distract from the issue of the Left's evils..."
---Haz27 on 7/3/14

More of the same bizarre huffing & puffing from the Hazy one who is nothing more that a big windbag! Boring!!!
---Leon on 7/3/14


Haz. Your continued drivel- "the left is bad"-gets old after awhile. I have given you multiple opportunities to explain to us how these issues affect you personally. I have given you multiple opportunities to tell us what you are doing to help the poor. You have no answer to the question, except to spin it. Talk about deceptive.

Actually teachers have been fired in California, Mississippi, Ohio, Washington and other places, and the courts have ruled it was legal. "Those bakers" was one person, and the court ruled he was wrong.

Please describe this "agenda" the gays have. Is it written down somewhere?
---NurseRobert on 7/3/14


Haz: 'We all know those bakers in USA who suffered for not baking wedding cake.'

And what on earth does that have to do with leftists? Or are you just on a general rant of anything you don't like.

You have spent most of this blog ranting and complaining about things that make no sense, now you add one more.

THIS TIME EXPLAIN YOURSELF

What does a baker being penalized for not baking a cake have to do with leftists? Or even, why did the baker no bake the cake?
---Peter on 7/3/14




NurseRob and Leon. I know many lefties like yourselves and they do no extra to help the needy than conservatives. Your false claim that somehow the Left are more caring is typical leftist propaganda designed to deceive, and in this case distract from the issue of the Left's evils.

As for your answer that the Left's agenda on same gender marriage not affecting us, that's another leftist lie.

The rights of Christians etc are denied under that agenda. Christian schools cannot deny employing a teacher with such deviancy. We all know those bakers in USA who suffered for not baking wedding cake. Denmark's Lutheran church legally obliged to marry deviants regardless of their own beliefs. Etc
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


\\Cluny, rape, incest, harm to the mother, just like the rights favorite son, Ronnie Reagan\\

Reagan was never my favorite, and I never voted for him.

I understand if the mother's PHYSICAL LIFE is in imminent danger, but why should the baby be executed when the father is a rapist or committed incest and allowed to go free?

As the late Nellie Grey said, "Not even a little bit of abortion."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/3/14


Haz, this has always been my position, are you just now realizing that?

There are many conservatives who have the same belief. I dont care who marries who. That is between them and God. How does it affect you? God doesnt need me or you to protect him. Jerry (and Jed, et al) love to make blanket statements. My question is very relevant, what are YOU doing to help the poor? The answer is obvious: nothing.

Why do you support the rights agenda to wage war anytime the want? Why do you support slashing social programs in favor of corporate welfare (the genuinely needy)? Why do you support a taliban like theocracy?

Cluny, rape, incest, harm to the mother, just like the rights favorite son, Ronnie Reagan.
---NurseRobert on 7/3/14


There's the rub 'Axe: Abortion isn't the topic of this blog! But, Huey (Hazy), Dewy (Jed) & Louie (Adler) hijacked & mischievously misdirected the blog away from the main topic.

Haz: Your hypocracy knows no bounds. You're like a broken record that irritatingly repeats in a groove over n over...Why do you think you can compare your Australian culture to the USA? You need to tie your kangaroo down, sport, & mind your own "out-backwards" business!

You still haven't answered NR's question: "What are YOU doing to help the poor?" Why don't you put your mouth on & speak to that or does the koala have your tongue?
---Leon on 7/3/14


I have never said abortion or murder are OK----StrongAxe


Then why do you always support the Left who are at the forefront pushing for abortion/murder of babies for any reason?

What is so important about the Left that you ignore their heartless stance on abortion and still support them regardless?

Is it their agenda pushing for same gender marriages?
Is it their agenda pushing Humanism over God?

Whilst both sides of politics miss the mark it's clear the Left is the greater evil of the 2. But you seem to disagree and there seems to be no rational reason for it.
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


Haz27:

You said: Leon, I guess we could likewise call you and your 2 mates (NurseRob, StrongAxe) the 3 Stooges then :)

Admittedly your the only one of the 3 who eventually conceded and condemned abortion/murder.


I'm flattered that you consider me to be equivalent to successful professional comedians. Thank you.

But also, so what? I have never said abortion or murder are OK. The fact that I hadn't explicitly condemned them here yet is irrelevant, since they aren't the topic of this blog, and 125 words go quickly, and I'm not online daily. I don't assume that you approve of everything you don't explicitly condemn.
---StrongAxe on 7/2/14


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NurseRob. Conservatives have not rejected welfare or help for GENUINELY needy. Hence your question is not relevant and clearly meant to distract from the Left's evils.

Australia's welfare culture is worse than USA. A recent report described a community of able bodied unemployed Aborigines dependent on welfare. This community has very high rates of rape, sexually transmitted disease, teenage pregnancies, etc.

I recall a conservative politician saying welfare was destroying Aborigines and that they should be trained to work. She was immediately labelled a "racist" by the Left. BUT later when an Aborigine said the SAME THING, he was labelled as a wonderful insightful man, by the same deceitful, hypocritical Left.
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


\\ I believe there are times with an abortion is necessary\\

Can you be more specific, Nurse Robert?

As far as keeping our youth chaste, there are lots of children born to formerly chaste youth who could have been named "We-didn't-intend-things-to-go-this-far."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/3/14


I do not believe abortions should be used for convenience or for birth control---NurseRobert.

Now that you have admitted this, why do you continue to support the Left who are always at the forefront pushing for easier abortions/murder for any reason?

Do you also support the Left's agenda in favour of same gender marriages?

And what about the Left's agenda of Humanism over God? Jerry mentioned earlier how the liberals including Obama ridiculed God.
---Haz27 on 7/3/14


nurse Robert, any girl can go to the county clinic and get birth control. first we must teach our children to be pure. that is not only education but should be a way of life. that is how God intended. since there are those who want to kill babies and the reasons don't matter. it is murder. there is absolutely no reason for a girl to get pregnant when birth control is within her reach.
---shira4368 on 7/2/14


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NR: I dare say none of these tight fisted, miserable complainers have ever given a thought to "regularly donating" to charities like their local food banks, Christian Seniors Services/Meals on Wheels, homeless shelters & The Salvation Army.

Regarding your repeat question, all you're likely going to get from them is the deafening sound of silence.

God bless & "stand" strong NR! :) (Eph. 6:13)
---Leon on 7/2/14


Elder, a widow who has children to take care of her is not the same as a widow described in 1 Tim 3. If the church fails in its duty to care for a widow indeed then who should do it?

For all the rest, let me be clear on my stand: I believe there are times with an abortion is necessary for that reason, abortions need to be legal. I do not believe abortions should be used for convenience or for birth control.

For Haz, Jed, Elder, and the rest of the anti-abortion crowd.: If you do not support accessible birth control, if you do not support education to prevent pregnancy, if you dont support the care of the poor and needy, YOU are just as much part of the problem.

Last chance. What are YOU doing to help the poor?
---NurseRobert on 7/2/14


Peter,
I'm surprised at your answers. You accuse another brother of his English, even said that NurseRoberts never said people had a choice when he did say that,
"Haz, I reject your premise. People have a right to make choices in their lives."
Are you for Christian principles? If you are, how about standing for the principles of God? The love for the unborn. Are you going to defend them, or are you going to be a part of their murder?
NurseRoberts is for freedom from God's principles, so is Leon with the abortion issues. We all have a choice but our priority now is for the principles of God. Not freedom from God. We should be slaves to God. If people do not like it, they don't belong to the household of God.
---Luke on 7/2/14


"...if I'm correct (and I'm sure that I am) you will go to jail and have your children taken away if you starve them...If starving your children is ever legalized, I'll be the first one to throw a royal fit about it."
---Jed on 7/1/14


So, as long as starvation to abort/murder children (of all ages) isn't legal you have no problem with it? Well, excuse me your "royal hiney"! There are poor children starving (being aborted) in the Americas & throughout the rest of the world, but you & your right winged hypocrite blog buddies are okay with that kind of abortion, aren't you? You're not doing anything to stop it so, you people must support it.
---Leon on 7/2/14


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Peter, either you're a Leftist or this debate on the Left's evils confronts your own life choices.
You take issue about welfare.

Here in Australia our welfare system is rorted by those who can work but refuse to. A recent case is a Muslim immigrant who is on disability welfare but is currently involved in fighting in middle east.

Australia has debt problem created by previous Leftist government with it's tendency for indiscriminate welfare, waste, etc. The conservative government hopes to fix this, but the Left hinders their efforts in the hope to regain government. The Left's efforts to stop economic recovery will only affect future welfare for those who need it most. The Left seek power. They're not concerned for the needy.
---Haz27 on 7/2/14


Peter, people who have done all they can do to find a job have a job.
---Jed on 7/2/14


has it ever crossed your mind the same senerio with the family. if one sibling has more money than the other, the lesser sibling thinks the wealthy one is lucky and they should share their luck. Ive seen this happen in families. the more wealthy sibling, the harder you work but the lesser sibling wont work but thinks they are entitled too.
---shira4368 on 7/2/14


Peter. I find it hard to believe that you're ignorant of the Left's argument for the right of the woman over her own body (meaning the right to abort/murder her own baby which allegedly has no right to life).

Whatever your real motivation is behind your support for liberals, I suggest you share this instead of hiding it behind irrational allegations.

When you think and sound like a liberal then clearly you're a liberal, in spite of any dishonest claims to the contrary.
---Haz27 on 7/2/14


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Jed: 'Churches cant replace every deadbeat lazy parent in the country who refuse to work and provide for their kids'

What about parents (or other people) who run out of money while they are looking for a job?

You like the phrase 'REFUSE TO WORK' because you take that from the Bible

What about the people in the parable, the ones who got the same pay for one hour's work as those who worked 12 hours?

Do you accept that the same parable means that if someone could not find a job that day, he could get something? If he sat looking for a job all day? Doing all he could to get a job
---Peter on 7/1/14


Go back to school to take English lessons---Peter.

I doubt if your issue is really about my English. Whenever someone aggressively makes an issue about another's English, etc, it's often just a childish attempt to score a point against an opponent. It's a petty comeback, if that's the case, Peter.

I found that most are not perfect with English. BUT, most of us on forums focus on the message instead of being petty over grammar, spelling, etc. I suggest you try this too, Peter.

Am I correct in reading from the unfriendly tone of your vague critique of my post, that your a liberal who is upset about this debate on the Left's evils?
---Haz27 on 7/1/14


Peter, maybe your missing something. I was accused of supporting starvation like Leon supports abortion. But of course, nobody supports starvation. The point is absurd.
---Jed on 7/1/14


---Jed on 7/1/14"I wouldn't starve my children, but if other parents want to do it they should be allowed to have the choice."

Dear Jed: Are you joking, unable to understand Leon, or are you arguing in a silly way?

Whatever, while I'm normally to the right, your views (and those of some others on the right) would make most people just become communists! Which I do not want

I thought people were taught logic at some point in their life!

you must have learned logic - USE IT!!!!!
---Peter on 7/1/14


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Starvation is also a type of abortion, but you right-winged hypocrites are okay with that!
---Leon on 7/1/14


Actually, I'm not okay with that. And I have never voted to legalize parents to starve their children. I have never said "I wouldn't starve my children, but if other parents want to do it they should be allowed to have the choice." Nope. I'm just as much against parents starving their kids as much as I am against abortion. And if I'm correct (and I'm sure that I am) you will go to jail and have your children taken away if you starve them, as it should be. If starving your children is ever legalized, I'll be the first one to throw a royal fit about it.
---Jed on 7/1/14


Ahh... Leon is trying to gain support for his twisted views. I think Nurse is smarter than that.

Leon wants to build a Waco Clan all to himself.

Wait.... wait for it... wait...wait, yea there it is a new name calling... Leon lyrics. Ain't ya happy wit ya new meds Leon?
---Elder on 7/1/14


Haz27 on 7/1/14: 'people have the right to make the choice to kill their baby!'

My dear Haz27: Before accusing NurseRobert LEARN ENGLISH!!!!

If you had learned English Comprehension at school, you would know she does NOT say people have the RIGHT

She simply tells you not to accuse when you do not know the situation of others.

You may believe that there is absolutely no reason for anyone to have an abortion, and so you may accuse anyone - but still, your statement is an ERROR (due to your misunderstanding on English)

Go back to school to take English lessons
---Peter on 7/1/14


what kind of a question is that?
what about is it possible to be a republican & a christian at the same time?
church & state should be separate
---mike on 7/1/14


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"...The Left are always at the forefront pushing for easier abortion/murder. The heartless Left don't care about the rights of the baby."
---Haz27 on 7/1/14


NR: You're a better man than me. I believe the best you can possibly hope to accomplish with this one is to throw him/her a chew stick & call it a day! Make sure you don't throw it with your left hand though. Otherwise, it might get viciously thrown back at you. :)
---Leon on 7/1/14


People have a right to make choices---NurseRobert.

You finally admit abortion is not the answer, but then brush that claim aside with your higher claim that people have the right to make the choice to kill their baby!

And what for?
The only excuse you think of is poverty. BUT there are many couples who seek to adopt so your "poverty" argument fails.

Then there are other reasons to choose abortion aren't there?
They wanted a boy instead of a girl. Or she wanted to be able to fit into her wedding dress on wedding day. A baby would derail their other plans/goals.

The Left are always at the forefront pushing for easier abortion/murder. The heartless Left don't care about the rights of the baby.
---Haz27 on 7/1/14


amen jerry amen
---shira4368 on 7/1/14


Jed, NR asked you many times, "What are you three doing to help the poor, other than sit on your [behinds] & complain?" You guys have rationalized reality, to the point of incongruity, yet haven't come up with not one single solution to the problem of feeding approximately 4 million "starving children".Starvation is also a type of abortion, but you right-winged hypocrites are okay with that!

You've had several opportunities to explain yourselves, but have refused to. So, by virtue of your politically motivated support of "abortion-styled starvation", we can only assume you're not going to do anything to stop it since you obviously do support this murderous act & crime against humanity!
---Leon on 7/1/14


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"a millionaire widow is not a widow indeed.
NurseRobert

If you go back and reread what I posted you will see that is what I was leading to. I'm sure you are smart enough to see that if you reread my post.

A widow that has children that could take care of her is the same.

Next, the government welfare system has taken away what the churches used to do.

Yea, yea, yea... the next statement is the churches don't do what they are supposed to.

One reason is because people just don't need churches any more. They get everything they need from the government.
---Elder on 7/1/14


"Haz,You chose to be pro-fetus...."
NurseRobert

Nurse with your vast knowledge of medical stuff and all of your years of experence could you tell us when or at what point in time a "Fetus" becomes a baby?

Now this is not like a wart is it?

Do you believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible? If so, it speaks for itself.

The Bible calls them babies.
---Elder on 7/1/14


Jed and Jerry. People on welfare are deadbeats, lazy drug abusing parents? No welfare doesn't always work, but for many other reasons. You know that but choose to ignore reality. Jerry, NO food is free.

Haz, I reject your premise. People have a right to make choices in their lives. You chose to be pro-fetus and ignore everyone else. Abortion is not the answer, but when you stand in the place of someone who has to make that decision then you can judge.

Elder, do you believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible? If so, the verse speaks for itself. 1 Tim 5:3 says 3 Honor widows that are widows indeed. You know, those in need, a millionaire widow is not a widow indeed. Im sure youre smart enough to know that.
---NurseRobert on 7/1/14


Leon, I guess we could likewise call you and your 2 mates (NurseRob, StrongAxe) the 3 Stooges then :)

Admittedly your the only one of the 3 who eventually conceded and condemned abortion/murder.

NurseRob still continues ignoring any of the Left's trademark evils though. Abortion, deviant lifestyles, Humanism over God, etc must be okay for NurseRob as there is yet no admission by him of any wrong with these ideologies from the Left.

NurseRob, why do you think these evils from the liberal/Left are ok? You even imply that the abortion of thousands of babies per year is an acceptable solution to alleviate poverty.
---Haz27 on 7/1/14


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Nurse: "Jerry, we believe in the people [sic] right to make their own choices. You would rather set up a theocracy and force people to worship as you choose."

None are so blind as those who will not see. You believe that lazy people have the right to choose that which I have earned and steal it for themselves. You believe in the official communist state religion of atheism and enforced worship of the federal dictator.


---jerry6593 on 7/1/14


NR: Rotsa ruck in getting an honest answer, to your question, from The Three Amigos (Senors See-mo' Evil, Hear-mo' Evil & Speak-mo' Evil). I wouldn't hold my breathe if I were you! :) For a long time it's been quite evident this sanctimonious trio is like clouds & wind without rain. (Pv. 25:14) Job's friends were leaps & bounds, in integrity, above these wrong-headed (misguided) blog bullies.
---Leon on 6/30/14


" The Bible also commands to feed the hungry, cloth those who need it, and help the sick.
Sounds kinna socialistic to me.."
NurseRobert

Sure! It would to anyone who misunderstood the Scripture.
Like the Bible instructs the Church to take care of the widows.

We are to take care of the ones who can not take care of themselves. Not the ones who will not!

I know a widow who is a multi-millionaire. What should the church do for her or one who has 5 or 10 children to take care of her.

It is the same principle. Because we have to support those who want something for nothing and won't work those that really need go without.
---Elder on 6/30/14


NurseRoberts, Churches cant replace every deadbeat lazy parent in the country who refuse to work and provide for their kids. Sadly, welfare doesnt help any either. Children on welfare continue to go to bed hungry and their families remain in poverty for decades. I dont see welfare lifting anyone out of poverty. It would be a great idea if it worked, but it doesnt. Because the problem is not that their parents are incapable of getting food, its that they are neglected by their drug abusing deadbeat parents. Many churches have pantry doors wide open but their shelves remain stocked and children continue to be hungry because.the parents are too lazy and self centered to go to the pantry and get FREE food for thier own kids.
---Jed on 6/30/14


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NurseRoberts, Churches cant replace every deadbeat lazy parent in the country who refuse to work and provide for their kids. Sadly, welfare doesnt help any either. Children on welfare continue to go to bed hungry and their families remain in poverty for decades. I dont see welfare lifting anyone out of poverty. It would be a great idea if it worked, but it doesnt. Because the problem is not that their parents are incapable of getting food, its that they are neglected by their drug abusing deadbeat parents. Many churches have pantry doors wide open but their shelves remain stocked and children continue to be hungry because.the parents are too lazy and self centered to go to the pantry and get FREE food for thier own kids.
---Jed on 6/30/14


NurseRob. In Australia the conservative side of politics helps the poor by encouraging those that can, to work, develop self esteem and get off the destructive welfare cycle.

What does the Left do to help the poor? Keep them on welfare even if they can work. The Left also, through their poor economic management, rack up national debt creating a bad economy that is less able to provide welfare to the poor.

No doubt your Leftist mates also see abortion as a solution to deal with the future poor. Just kill babies so they won't be future poor. That seems to be your reasoning.

The Left are not interested in the poor, they're only interested in power.
---Haz27 on 6/30/14


Jed, Haz and Jerry... I knew I could get responses from you three.

Jed, you talk of charity. If charity in this country is so special, why are there millions of people going to bed hungry, 4 million are children? You're churches have done a wonderful job with that.

Haz, we oppose your brand of Christianity, the "I've got mine, to heck with you" mentality.

Jerry, we believe in the people right to make their own choices. You would rather set up a theocracy and force people to worship as you choose.

I ask before, and I ask again.. What are you three doing to help the poor, other than sit on your couches and complain.
---NurseRobert on 6/30/14



The Bible also commands to feed the hungry, cloth those who need it, and help the sick.

Sounds kinna socialistic to me..

---NurseRobert on 6/29/14


That's because you don't know the difference between socialism and charity. BTW: Our welfare system does none of the things you just listed.
---Jed on 6/29/14


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It's interesting to see how deluded liberals are. Liberals here deceive themselves, trying to identify the twisted ethics of the Left, with the Bible.

The conservatives and non aligned here are much more realistic and acknowledge both sides of politics miss the mark, whilst recognising that the Left are by far the greater evil.

Interesting too that the liberals here are clearly content to maintain the status quo within the Left they support. Abortion, deviant relationships, Humanism over God, etc, are not questioned or challenged.

NurseRob. You refer to Matt 25 about feed hungry, clothe naked, etc, but miss it's SPIRITUAL truth. It refers to preaching gospel to the lost. And we both know how the Left opposes Christianity.
---Haz27 on 6/30/14


Elder, there is a huge difference between 'cannot', 'do not' and 'will not'.

Those who DO not vary in the reasons why they Do not and some of them will be the Cannots and some will be the Willnots.

I agree that the Willnots deserve to go hungry but we are instructed to help those who are hungry through no fault of their own.
---Rita_H on 6/30/14


//
The Bible also commands to feed the hungry, cloth those who need it, and help the sick.

Sounds kinna socialistic to me..

---NurseRobert on 6/29/14
//


Typical leftist pseudoliberal hogwash. Jesus was speaking to individuals - not to the government. He encouraged PERSONAL liberality - not Marxist slavery to the state. Why do you think that US conservatives out give liberals in charitable contributions by a wide margin?



---jerry6593 on 6/30/14


/The Bible also commands to feed the hungry, cloth those who need it, and help the sick. Sounds kinna socialistic to me..\-NurseRobert on 6/29/14
Except in socialism, the government is doing it all for you, but they fail miserably. It is hard to do those things when one doesn't own anything.
A socialist nation has never prospered and has always been oppressive and restrictive.
Being sociable and neighborly are not the same as being socialistic.
Socialism is communal. Christ's commands are individual, but can be done as a body just as effectively.
---micha9344 on 6/30/14


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This is the Socialist and Democrat food stamp type state of mind.

The Bible says if a man doesn't work he shall not eat!
---Elder on 6/29/14

The Bible also commands to feed the hungry, cloth those who need it, and help the sick.

Sounds kinna socialistic to me..
---NurseRobert on 6/29/14


Candy: I agree with what Geraldine said (6/28). God has established government. (Ro. 13:1) Otherwise, we'd have world-wide anarchy (lawlessness, caous).

Yes, we are supposed to obey the laws of the land & , thank God, here in the USA we can actively participate in the voting process to enact good laws & change bad ones.

As christians, we're to be salt & light "in the world". (Matt. 5:13-16) There's an ongoing need for Christians to strongly influence both Democrat & Republican parties. If we stay neutral & do nothing we fail to serve Jesus by neglecting His great commission (Matt. 28:19).
---Leon on 6/29/14


Elder:

You said: The Bible says if a man doesn't work he shall not eat

Not quite: 2 Thessalonians 3:10: "...if any would not work, neither should he eat."

This is not about not working. It is about not being WILLING to work. There is a fine, but significant difference between these two, and not understanding it is a key confusion in the whole welfare debate.

Tossing lazy bums onto the street because they're too lazy to lift a finger is Pauline Christian doctrine. Tossing Grandma out the street because she can no longer lift a broom is how Nazis dealt with "useless eaters".


Jed:

The Bible frequently praises liberalism. Look it up.
---StrongAxe on 6/29/14


I stay neutral for the worlds government arent for us. We are to only have Jesus as our authority.Yes we are to obey the laws of the land, but we dont have to be a republican or democrate because what if we support what they do & they go against what God hates? We are then as bad as them.
---Candice on 6/29/14


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Do sinner make better believers of God than believers do? They fear neither God or man. Some believer are afraid of everything. God did not give you a spirit of fear but of love and power and a sound mind. Do you believe what he has given you? Cause I know some nonchristian who believe it they have love and power and a sound mind.
---Bryan on 6/29/14


"Democrats are in an egalitarian sense..."
Leon

(Egalitarianism, from French "egal", meaning equal)

But Democrats base their beliefs on the Karl Marx type of meaning.

"To each according to his contribution" and "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need."

This is the Socialist and Democrat food stamp type state of mind.

The Bible says if a man doesn't work he shall not eat!

The Bible teachs the equality of women, men, racial and ethnic mixes, all economic classes, age groups and innocent babies based on the teachings and example of Jesus Christ. Do the Democrats? Ask a baby.
---Elder on 6/29/14


Being a conservative doesn't make you a Christian, but being a liberal does make you a non-Christian.
---Jed on 6/29/14


Haz, You are of course right and I am wrong. I stand humbly corrected.
---love.jesus on 6/29/14


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love.jesus. Christians support political parties for various reasons, in spite of the deceit.

For many, they vote according to emotional loyalty rather than reason. It's easier to be led by loyalty rather than doing any research and rational thought. In Australia we call them "rusted on" voters.

I have a Christian friend who supports the Left due to his unionist upbringing. BUT, he conveniently avoids any talk of the Left's trademark evils such as abortion, racism, Humanism over God, deviant lifestyles, etc.

Sadly he is a "rusted-on" voter, whose emotional ties to the Left blinds him to the obvious truths.
So, in spite of the contradiction, it is possible to be a Christian and a liberal.
---Haz27 on 6/29/14


Cluny: "FDR was one. So were JFK, LBJ, and Jimmy Carter."

Hardly!

Only Eisenhower and Reagan were the only godly men in my lifetime.

Although many Republicans are not much better, the Democrat Party IS the party of evil. Jed's list is accurate. They are the anti-God party, even booing God at their convention, and their current Liar-in-Chief even denigrating those of us who "cling to our Bibles". What is even more revolting is those of you who uphold people like this as righteous.

Isa 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!



---jerry6593 on 6/29/14


"Since all politicians practice deceit, then a Christian cannot in good conscience support any politician, I would say..."
love.jesus on 6/28/14

God knows each heart. I do tend to think politics corrupt, and democrat, republican are pretty much 2 sides of a coin. Views presented, and supported by candidates (simply?) to draw constituents, while in reality those in power behind the scenes may be same. Some say follow the money trail. (in order to expose)

rather follow truth which brings light.
---Chria9396 on 6/29/14


True Geraldine. Democrats are more representative of the body of Christ, in an egalitarian sense, than Republicans who are more like self-righteous religious scribes & pharisees who blindly wielded power & saw themselves as superior to all others. They were more interested in serving themselves, monetarily & politically, rather than serving God.
---Leon on 6/28/14


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Since all politicians practice deceit, then a Christian cannot in good conscience support any politician, I would say...
---love.jesus on 6/28/14


Jed, you're correct that the Left supports many evils. Abortion, deviant lifestyles, Humanism over God, etc, etc. And here's another we recently found in Australia.

A Leftist controlled society for public debate recently bowed to pubic outcries to withdraw one of the topics they invited a Muslim speaker to present. This Muslim's topic was "Honour killings are morally justified".

Of course this Leftist group and the Muslim defended their position with deceitful accusations of Islamophobia, but that to be expected of such liars.
---Haz27 on 6/28/14



If it is true that Democrats base worth on equality, and Republicans base worth on power and wealth, then it is EASIER for a Democrat to follow Jesus' teaching of equality.

---Geraldine on 6/28/14


But since that statement is NOT true, the point is irrelevant.
---Jed on 6/28/14


P.S.When they put Christian prayers! Listen.to me now, I.said Holy Ghost filled people can go and pray on the play grounds like we used to be able..
That will let me feel that there hope a Politian can be a Christian.
When they the politicians quit goin on a certain online news every hi other month smiling he only got a slap on.the wrist for using,doing God know what else for that cocaine he had..
When the politicians stay with us in.the trenches instead of fancy vacations cause it get'n tight!
Few others then yea I.will.believe not before.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena9555 on 6/28/14


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Christians don't support killing innocent babies.
Christians don't support promiscuity.
Christians don't support premarital relations.
Christians don't support LGBT lifestyles.
Christians don't steal from others.
Christians aren't lazy.
Christians give, not take. Christians don't attack godliness.
Christians don't mock God.
Christians don't attempt to legislate God out of their country.
Christians defend the weak and abused, not attack them.
Christians defend justice.
And most of all, Christians don't practice deceit.

The last one alone disqualifies progressive liberals.
---Jed on 6/28/14


it's foolish to confuse any party's platform with the Gospel of Christ.
The Lord said, "My Kingdom is NOT of this world."
---Cluny.

I agree.
Hence there will be Christians on both sides of politics.

Hypocrisy and deceit are common place in politics. And from my observations here in Australia (having been formerly involved in politics) the Left of politics are clearly the worst.

Leon, you quote Gal 2 without understanding. It has no relevance to your point.
---Haz27 on 6/28/14


IF it is true that Democrats base worth on equality---Geraldine

Geraldine, your correct to have doubts and say "IF".
Fact is its not true. The Left's discrimination, racial prejudice, intolerance, etc, confirms their scorn for equality.

For the Left "equality" is a useful label to deceive voters. Merely deceitful propaganda to try to gain political power.
---Haz27 on 6/28/14


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