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The gates of hell. Is it used as a metaphor, metaphorically used? Is the devil, peoples, world advents other pertaining to it?

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4. No grace because you want to be under the Saturday Sabbath Law.
5. You also believe the wicked deserve salvation. And that God is a monster for having the ability to save whom He wills to save.
Luke

Well I do believe you should not be lying about me and my church.

Keeping the Sabbath is no different then not worshipping idols. They are the same type thing.

I and many Protestant churches teach Salvation is offered to everyone and do not believe in the security of the Believer. So why am I and my church all condemned because we do not believe as you do. Or all who do not believe as you do destined to be tortured for all eternity.

Which you stated yourself is an unjust punishment.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/19/14


Dear Samuel,
Again, let it go. We have already exhausted many passages to no avail. As long as you remain an SDA, you will forever believe as they do.
1. A temporary trip to hell, and then annihilation.
2. No spiritual baptism with Christ forever. Jerry calls it spiritualism, spooks.
3. Soul sleep
4. No grace because you want to be under the Saturday Sabbath Law.
5. You also believe the wicked deserve salvation. And that God is a monster for having the ability to save whom He wills to save. He has to save those you think should be saved also.
And I am not trying to change you either. Mark seem to think it was enough. Just let it go. There is other topics to answer to. Agape
---Luke on 8/19/14


Yes Luke I agree the Gates of Hell is a Metaphor.

But the doctrine of eternal torture of men, women and Children is a doctrine believed and fought for by many.

You have posted some points which seem to say that as it is taught you do not believe it completely. You have declared that some parts taught are not just. So why not reexamine the whole thing?

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/18/14


//The gates of hell. Is it used as a metaphor, metaphorically used?//

"The gates" pertaining to hell is a metaphor. I am pretty sure there is no real gates where hell is at.
The devil is one bad angelic guy. He is not God, he does not have the nature, character and attributes of God. He cannot be in all places at one time as God can. Agape
---Luke on 8/18/14


Dear Luke

The doctrine of the Immortal soul and eternal damnation to torture in Hell fire is taught and believe by the majority of Churches.

It states that all go to hell at death who are not saved and are in torment.

The saved go to Paradise at death and are with GOD.

You have stated you believe this. What I point out is the results of that belief.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/17/14




Samuel,
You keep bringing up children suffering more then Hitler. No doctrine teaches what you keep saying they teach. At least, I do not know of one.
So, I do not think I can stop you from making those real dumb remarks because you, as an SDA, do not believe in eternal punishment to those who cursed God, rebelled against Him, trashed Him. You feel they deserve salvation also. God does not think so. For God does not show mercy to them. So instead, I will do what Mark E recommended, move on to other topics. Thank you for your dialogue brother, Agape
---Luke on 8/16/14


//The doctrine you support says they deserve to be tortured for all eternity.//

The Bible teaches that the punishment is everlasting, no tortured mentioned that I know of.

//GOD does not offer them a way out.//

The sinner has no way out unless the Holy Spirit awakens the sinner. That is when God shows His mercy.

// He chooses to make them suffer terrible never ending pain.
So that the small child who died thousand of years ago suffers more then Hitler.//

Who said the child suffer more the Hitler, no one teaches that, it is all in your own bias mind. Study to be approve, and believe in the Truth. Agape
---Luke on 8/15/14


Luke you and Cluny agree. But that makes two of them and they are no longer a person. Genesis 2:7 says Body plus Spirit equal soul.

The body is just dust so not a person. The Spirit has returned to GOD but we do not read in the Bible that it is the person. A soul requires both parts together.

The doctrine you support says they deserve to be tortured for all eternity.

GOD does not offer them a way out. He chooses to make them suffer terrible never ending pain. So that the small child who died thousand of years ago suffers more then Hitler.

But Luke you seem to say that is not fair. Do you consider it fair? Cluny has no choice since his church tells him what to believe. But you can believe the Bible.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/14/14


\\How can they be in the sky with JESUS and in the grave at the same time?
True Angels and Saints aren't the same.\\

Body in the grave, and spirit/soul with Jesus.

See how simple?

Sky is NOT the same has heaven, though they are the same word in many languages.

Glory to Jesus Chirst!
---Cluny on 8/14/14


//John 5:28 ...
How can they be in the sky with JESUS and in the grave at the same time?
True Angels and Saints aren't the same.//

Samuel,
it is pretty simple, those who are in the grave are the physical bodies of those who are with Christ spiritually when they died. The angels who will come with Christ will also come together with the saints, those born of the Spirit, who had died physically and are united with Christ forever.
Second, in hell people will get what God judges they deserve.
All descendants of Adam are born totally Depraved because of the fall. Man is unable of himself to savingly believe the gospel. The sinner is dead, blind, and deaf to the things of God. Spiritually dead. He must be born again.
---Luke on 8/14/14




I didn't call GOD a monster. I stated what the doctrine of eternal hell teaches. I didn't say you mentioned hell. You didn't say what happened to them. So what does happen to them, according to doctrine of Total Depravity they are guilty of sin and must be punished in hell for all eternity.
Also you did not answer the question on what is fair about being torture for 3,000 years longer than Hitler for telling a lie.
The point about angels was made in a different discussion. You ignored part of the statement.
The Bible passages says
John 5:28 ...for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves...
How can they be in the sky with JESUS and in the grave at the same time?
True Angels and Saints aren't the same.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/13/14


Samuel, you make things up again. You distort the truth because you are spiritually blind. You go even to call God a monster if He does not do things the way you think He should.
First of all I did not speak of where the babies went. Did I mention hell? No, I didn't. I said God will judge them righteously. For He is just. So if God is righteous and just as Scripture tells us, what do you think will happen to them?
You lied again when you say, I believe that the angels only will come with Christ, I did not say that either. I said some passages speak about angels, others speak about saints. So what does that mean? that both will come with Him.
Angels are angelic beings, Saints are those born of the Spirit. Agape
---Luke on 8/13/14


Interesting answer Luke and RichardC.

So when a small child who is not elected sins then if they die they according to the doctrine of eternal hell thrown in to the lake of fire and starts being tortured until the day of judgment then resurrected and then judged and thrown back into hell to keep burning for all eternity.

So a child who is lost for lying 3,000 years before Hitler will have 3,000 years more of punishment then Hitler since they suffer the same exact punishment.

How is that fair?
---Samuelbb7 on 8/12/14


//Definition of TOTAL DEPRAVITY: a state of corruption due to original sin held in Calvinism to infect every part of man's nature.

So how can they be sinless?//

Babies are not sinless, they have a sinful nature. Because of their nature, they will die. They are innocent of any bad works done in the flesh. God will judge them righteously. Individuals without Christ are judge by their bad works done in life. As soon as a baby commits his first sin, he begins his works that will be recorded. That's why many claim "the age of accountability" not mentioned in the Bible. Without bias, read Romans chapter 9, The promise is only for some, "that the purpose of God according to election might stand" (v.11,12).
---Luke on 8/12/14


Samuel - So how can they be sinless - ( This verses came to me when I read that )

Romans 9:11 - ( For Children being not yet born ) neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth,

( This is dealing with Children not born yet - Because of Psalms 51: 5 - I would think Once in the flesh, the child would be tainted by original sin - But right now I don't have anything to back that up, )
---RichardC on 8/11/14


The non-elect go to the Great White Throne of Judgment, where God will judge them by their works. And since they had no bad works, God will judge them righteously.
I believe this because God is Righteous and babies are innocent of bad works. Agape

Luke

Thank you Luke for your answer. The doctrine of original sin is that babies are guilty of sin from Adam from birth. Which is why the RCC and others practice infant baptism.

Definition of TOTAL DEPRAVITY: a state of corruption due to original sin held in Calvinism to infect every part of man's nature.

So how can they be sinless?

I have read and use Calvin and eternal hell writes to define those doctrines.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/11/14


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God talking to Israel annuled their 'original sin' proverb,
Ezekiel 18:1_5 "The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying, What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel. Behold, all souls are mine, as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,..."
---Nana on 8/11/14


//What it is man is in the blood line of Adam - They have original sin in them, Psalm 51:5 - Psalm 58:3 - God can save a infant if that's his plan or 100 year old man ,//

Dear Richard,
very good. All born physically, are born sinners. It doesn't take long before a baby starts showing their true sinful nature. The Bible does not speak much about babies. Here is what I believe, when babies are born physically, they are born sinners. Those of the elect and those not of the elect.
The non-elect go to the Great White Throne of Judgment, where God will judge them by their works. And since they had no bad works, God will judge them righteously.
I believe this because God is Righteous and babies are innocent of bad works. Agape
---Luke on 8/11/14


Micha, of course he knew about it, but he did not oversee it.
---love.jesus on 8/9/14


Samuel,
Your problem is that you are trying to understand what is written with your own wisdom and your own knowledge. Why don't you say,
"this is what I believe" and then tells us what it is. Because what you believe is not always truth. Instead of saying, "this is what your teaching" because you make up stuff I never taught. Learn what Calvinism means, what Hyper Calvinist means, what Reform theology means, before you accuse me of things I never taught.
Everyone without Christ will go to the Great White Throne of Judgment. Everyone. God will judge individuals, whoever they are, by their works that are written on the books. And remember, God is Just, never does He punish anyone who does not have it coming.
---Luke on 8/10/14


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//If God oversees torturing, he's not worth a plugged nickel...//
Do you suppose God knew about the Nazis torturing the Jews?
---michael_e on 8/9/14


Shira - Not capable of understanding sin - No place that I know of in the Bible is a age of accountability is spoken of , This is something man has come up with to deal with this subject,

Think about it - If what you say is true, a infant could not die - The wages of sin is death - as you say they have not sin - So infants could not die,

What it is man is in the blood line of Adam - They have original sin in them, Psalm 51:5 - Psalm 58:3 - God can save a infant if that's his plan or 100 year old man ,
---RichardC on 8/9/14


Samuel that is not even common sense. There is an age of accountable and that means when children understand,they must be saved to enter heaven. They are capable of understanding sin and salvation. God DOES not send any baby to hell even those who are aborted.
---shira4368 on 8/8/14


Samuel, if you punish someone and then annihilate him, the punishment is useless because he won't remember it.
---love.jesus on 8/8/14


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\\Babies and small children who do not understand salvation\\

Are you saying we have to "understand" for God to work in our lives?

This limits God to our own poor mental abilities.

And this is gnosticism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/8/14


The wicked will each get the exact amount of punishment they individually deserve then die the second death and cease to exist.

GOD bless.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/8/14


Nobody will be tortured, period. If God oversees torturing, he's not worth a plugged nickel...
---love.jesus on 8/7/14


Okay Luke then are there babies who Jesus did not die for?

Since not all people live to be adults some who he did not die for had to have died as babies.

If he did not die for them, then are they not going to be tortured in hell fire for all eternity?

I will listen. Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 8/7/14


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Psalm 58:3 - The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born speaking lies,

Proverbs 20:11 - Even a child is know by his doings, whether his work be pure , and wether it be right,

Psalm 51:5 - Behold i was shapeth in iniquilty : and in sin did my mother conceive me,
---RichardC on 8/6/14


//Yes Luke you believe and teach that babies and small children as well as men and women of all ages will be punished the exact same way for not believing.//

Samuel,
again you make up stuff I never taught, just more lies. When did I speak about babies? Never. You assume too many things because you don't study. All you do is grip and make up stuff.
Again, I say why do you not understand? That God punishes those who have sinned against Him. You believe they are innocent. They are slaves to sin. They hate Christ. God did not make them hate Christ. Ask anyone of them. You need to study to make yourself approved. When you speak about babies been tortured, it all comes from your own corrupt mind.
---Luke on 8/6/14


Samuel I rarely call anyone crazy, but God is not hitler and never will be. Babies and small children who do not understand salvation. Where do you get that from? I need book and chapter please.
---shira4368 on 8/5/14


Yes Luke you believe and teach that babies and small children as well as men and women of all ages will be punished the exact same way for not believing.

The New Born babe who died at 6 months will be punished the same as Hitler and GOD will listen to their screams of agony for all eternity.

The Problem is that the wages of sin is death. Not eternal life. They are destroyed not kept alive.

Romans 6:23
Psalms 145:20

The LORD preserveth all them that love him: but all the wicked will he destroy.

So the eternal punishment for sin is death in the lake of fire. Not eternal life.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/5/14


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Yes Adetunji I get that JESUS is different.

He had GOD for his father and Mary for his mother. So He is both GOD and man.

He is not just GOD. But he is not just a man.

His nature has been argued about for over a two thousand years. But we must remember what Hebrews says about him.


Heb 4:14,15

Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/5/14


Samuelbb7: // JESUS was born of a virgin and became a man//
You & I have were conceived by fellow human fathers.
The Lord Jesus was conceived by the Holy Ghost Matt.1:20. Though in the flesh, HE is the Special-Man not the same as you & I.
Goats begets goats, dogs begets dogs, human begets humans, Holy Spirit begets Holy Spirit, do you get it ???
---Adetunji on 8/5/14


Samuel,
I am not Haz. I gave you the quote from Malachi. Read it yourself.

//You say GOD does not want to torture people in hell for all eternity.
Then why do you teach He does so.//

I teach He does, because the Bible tells us He does. It will be a just sentence for God is just. He is not cruel, sinners get what they deserve. The wrath of God abideth in them.
"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him" John 3:36.
It is called, eternal punishment, and are describe by Jesus by many symbols and images. No one knows how bad it will be, for no one has come back to tells us. Once there, always there.
---Luke on 8/5/14


GOD hated Esau---Samuelbb7

Samuel. Scripture speaks in types.

Esau, Cain, etc is referring to the flesh. That is those who walk in the flesh/unbelief.

Jacob, Able, etc is referring to those who walk in the spirit. That is those who walk by faith, believing God's promise.
---Haz27 on 8/5/14


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Luke Haz stated that GOD hated Esau and quoted the scripture to prove it.

You say GOD does not want to torture people in hell for all eternity.

Then why do you teach He does so.

Adejunntji

JESUS was born of a virgin and became a man.


Mat 16:13

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?


Jhn 13:31

Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him.

Read Hebrews 1
---Samuelbb7 on 8/4/14


Samuel,
I don't understand why you do not understand Scripture. We are told over and over the Love God had for Israel. (Romans 9:13) comes from (Malachi 1:1-5) If you had read the passages you would know God did not hate Esau personally. The Lord hatred was against Esau's idolatrous descendants. In the same way the love of God was for the descendants of Jacob.
And just because He loved Israel and chose Israel for the Redeemer to come through, it doesn't say He hated all the other nations because He didn't chose them. All through history God has chosen every individual. Just because He didn't chose the others does not mean He hates them and created them to torture them as you say. You have no clue what you are talking about.
---Luke on 8/4/14


Samuelbb7: // I am sorry that I am not wise and smart enough to understand how GOD can be both Man and GOD.//
Please read Judges 13:3-21, you will find the encounter of Manoah's family with an angel of God. The angel appeared as a man while delivering his message & vanished after, more than once. While the angel was seen as a man by the Manoahs, has he stopped being an angel or an heavenly being? Think about this. The Lord Jesus(Creator of angels): never stopped at anytime being God. HIS appearance in flesh was for the purpose of our salvation. Please rid your mind of contrary teachings that others might have passed to you.
---Adetunji on 8/3/14


Yes Adetunji He is.
Luke I have both studied Calvinism and listened to you and Haz explain it. I stated from TULIP about GOD hating some people and creating them to be tortured is in the doctrine and yall have spoken. Have not you and Haz not used this verse.

Romans9:13
To show why GOD chooses to send the majority of babies, women and men to eternal torture? Because in His Sovereignty He chooses to save some and doom others with out hope and no means of salvation for what He made them be.
True the Eternal Torture is not part of TULIP that is the doctrine of eternal burning in hell.
I am sorry that I am not wise and smart enough to understand how GOD can be both Man and GOD.
Explain where and how I am mistaken?
---Samuelbb7 on 8/3/14


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// I do not attempt to totally understand how JESUS is both GOD and man.//

Samuel,
If you do not understand the nature of God you should not debate His nature. When you do, you know nothing about it. So you try to use your own wisdom to answer.
It's like when you say those terrible things about God, and how He created people to hate them, and torture them. You don't know what the Sovereignty of God is, yet you talk a lot about it. Study the subjects first, then you have some truth.
"He (God) is the same yesterday, today and forever" His nature never changes.
---Luke on 8/3/14


Samuelbb7: The Lord Jesus Christ is more than a Prophet, He is the Alpha and Omega, the Almighty Rev.1:8.
---Adetunji on 8/2/14


Hello adetunji. Prophets often knew what was going on other places because the HOLY SPIRIT told them so they did not have to be omnipresent. Which is the answer on all three verses.

Yes Luke He was and is GOD. But He also became a man and is a man too. I do not attempt to totally understand how JESUS is both GOD and man. But since He is a man too that limits his physical body to one place. Yes as one with the HOLY SPIRIT He is omnipresent but his body is in Heaven and we are waiting for Him to return.

The Body of JESUS is not here on earth. But many false prophets claim they are him.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/29/14


Samuelbby: // Yes JESUS is the son. But as a man He is no longer omnipresent.//

I disagree with you, Jesus is from everlasting to everlasting OMNIPRESENT.

(1) John 11:11-15 HE talked about the happenings in a faraway places. If HE is wasn't omnipresent, how could HE do that?
Check the following Scripture as well:
(2) John 1:48
(3) Mark 14:12-!6.
---Adetunji on 7/28/14


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//He is both GOD and Man and has existed from eternity. But he did not walk this earth as GOD. But as a man. As a both He is our High Priest.//

Samuel,
It must be very hard to admit you are wrong because you look for all kinds of excuses. There is no fear of God in your answers. I can understand you making mistakes on what the Second Coming means, not two Second Comings but one, but not on the nature of God.
When God came in the flesh, He was God. He never stopped being God. God is Spirit, He is everywhere. How can you make a mistake like that? Agape
---Luke on 7/28/14


Yes JESUS is the son. But as a man He is no longer omnipresent.

Except through the HOLY SPRIT. To have the HOLY SPIRIT in us is to have JESUS in us. But we cannot see or talk to him face to face right now. That comes when we go home.

He is both GOD and Man and has existed from eternity. But he did not walk this earth as GOD. But as a man. As a both He is our High Priest.

Agape
---Samuelbby on 7/27/14


//No Luke JESUS is the CHRIST his Nature and character never change. But his attributes did change when He left Heaven and was born of a virgin.//

Dear Samuel,
I hope you reconsider what you just said. Jesus Christ never lost His attributes. In His humanity, He is man and He is God. "He is the same yesterday, today and forever."
He was always the Son, He never became the Son. The Father sent the Son. Every attribute the Father has Jesus also has, and so does the Holy Spirit. Christ in His humanity could have used every attribute but didn't. He did use some of them. Agape
---Luke on 7/25/14


No Luke JESUS is the CHRIST his Nature and character never change. But his attributes did change when He left Heaven and was born of a virgin. As a man he walked this earth and as a human is both GOD and man he went up to heaven. Were he is our High Priest ever interceding for us.

Hebrews 4:14-15 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
Yes as part of the Trinity He is everywhere through the Comforter the HOLY SPIRIT.
I accept this by faith in the word of GOD.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/24/14


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//Luke, NO not trashing any. Those of trinity, those that worship other gods,the agnostics, atheist, man woman sexual perversions , smokers, drunkards, fornicators, other etc needs Acts 2 v 38 Also.//

Lawrence,
Here again you accuse Trinitarians of worshipping other gods. The same old song. We worship only One True God in three Persons. In the Old Testament, the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are at work. The same holds true for the New Testament. The Son reveals the Father, the Holy Spirit reveals the Son.
The Father draws individuals to Christ, Christ pays for their debt, the Spirit brings spiritual life to them.
None Trinitarians are not Christian, since the Trinity is part of the essentials of the Christian faith.
---Luke on 7/24/14


Lawrence, I agree
---shira4368 on 7/21/14


Shira
Jesus had a glorified body. Can be seen then not to be seen. Jesus walked talked with 2 men n then vanished. At the appointed time, He appeared through closed doors.
---Lawrence on 7/21/14


//Dear Luke

While I agree with you on the Trinity. The Son JESUS CHRIST is no longer omnipresent since he was raised from the grave with His physical body.//

Dear Samuel, have you forgotten? Christ is the same, yesterday, today and forever. His nature, character and attributes never change. He is God the Creator, always has been. What you are confusing is the humanity of Jesus the Person. His Divine nature never changes. In His Divine Spirit He is everywhere, even in the lives of believers. Agape
---Luke on 7/21/14


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How did Jesus walk thru a shut door after He had arisen?
---shira4368 on 7/20/14


I'm father to my 2 girls, I'm son to my parents, I'm a member to cnet. I'm not 3 persons, only 1.
Jesus is the only person, also He Is the Father n the Holy Ghost. Only 1 person. Philip asked Jesus, show us the Father, Jesus said when you have seem me you have seen the Father. Thomas said to Jesus, my Lord and my God. Only 1.
---Lawrence on 7/20/14


Dear Luke

While I agree with you on the Trinity. The Son JESUS CHRIST is no longer omnipresent since he was raised from the grave with His physical body.

Lawrence The Creator of all things is GOD. JESUS created all things. So that make Him GOD. Luke is right three persons one GOD.


Eph 3:9

And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:


Tools specific to Rev 4:11

Rev 4:11

Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/20/14


Again Luke. I Have heard trin - ministers say God the Father which is correct, god the son n god the holy spirit whIch Is Incorrect.
Those that worship other gods, which is buddha, allah, hindu n other etc.
---Lawrence on 7/20/14


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dear Lawrence,
again more words and no answers to the questions. Just more trash. Trinitarians do not worship another gods as you said. They worship One God Almighty in three Persons.
There is only One true God. All the others are fakes. God the Father is God, Jesus Christ the Son of God is God, and the Holy Spirit of God is God. All three Persons are omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, Holy, righteous, and all three Persons have the same attributes. Agape
---Luke on 7/20/14


Luke, NO not trashing any. Those of trinity, those that worship other gods,the agnostics, atheist, man woman sexual perversions , smokers, drunkards, fornicators, other etc needs Acts 2 v 38 Also.
---Lawrence on 7/19/14


Dear Lawrence,
those are big words you put out. Again, trashing the Trinitarians just because you are not one. You break the Ninth Commandment,
"You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor" Yet, you speak as a man without sin. Are you sinless? I have never met someone who was sinless other then Jesus my Savior. So what says you with those big words?
Have you conquered sin? No pride, no bad feelings for others, no lies, no evil thoughts. Do you give to the poor? Do you sacrifice yourself for others? Do you not know what Jesus taught? before you judge another, remove the plank from your own eye.
---Luke on 7/19/14


Matt. 16 v 18. Pertaining to peoples, things etc are Not of God. Worldly pleasures & those that Are addicted to such, doctrines commandments of men the trinity, men women sexual perversions, atheist, agnostics, those that worship other gods, smokers, cussers, drunkards, adulterers etc. No such a thing as smoking, cussing, drunkards etc christians. 2nd. Cor. 11 v 14 says there is, which Are many.
Shall not prevail against The Church that Jesus commissioned to Apostle Peter, that came to pass on the day of Pentecost, Acts 2 v 38. which Are few. Matt. 7 v's 13 - 14.
---Lawrence on 7/18/14


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//I could see Jesus standing on the gate of hell, saying to satan you could not even deal with me. Now you will have my brothers and sisters busting your chops.//

Dear Bryan,
What you are saying is something I never heard of. Christians in hell, sisters and brothers busting the chops of Satan. It seems you are saying this is happening in hell. Christians do not go to hell. Not even to go and bust the chops of Satan.
Second, Jesus does not make fun of anyone when they are suffering in hell, He does not enjoy people or the devil suffering, Some story you see. Agape
---Luke on 7/15/14


Wow!everyone's post, interesting, may we all get that much more closer to Jesus! Let nothing separate us from the Love of God.thankyou all.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 7/13/14


The gates of hell is whatever can cause someone to be sealed / shut permanently into hell. In my opinion the only thing that matches the above statement is "the disobedience of God till death ".
---Adetunji on 7/13/14


Hello! Let's sum it up to1.(Mystical Theory)-some say the church will be protected from Satans attack.
.2.has a precise meaning-greek word "katischuo" shall not prevail.
3.prevail-good translation- Not overcome.Not only does it mean have the strength to have the victory o'er your foe, not strength to fight but TO WIN.inshort remember Jesus Rev.1:18
here, Jesus speaks he holds
the keys to death and Hades.
death itself, can never over power the church.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 7/12/14


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If I may add, the gates of hell can't possibly prevail against believers, people who have repented of their sins before Holy God. Such people (born again believers) constitute the Church of Jesus Christ. The gates of hell are designed to keep urepentant disbelievers locked in forever.
---Leon on 7/11/14


Monk good word Jesus tore the gates off the hinges. I don't know If that Is in the Bible somewhere but for sure does sound good. I could see Jesus standing on the gate of hell, saying to satan you could not even deal with me. Now you will have my brothers and sisters busting your chops.
---Bryan on 7/11/14


Matt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jesus speaking here of the truth that he is the Christ. The church is built upon Christ and his finished work.

Now gates are meant to either keep someone out or keep someone in.

Christ is telling us that the gates of hell shall not prevail against his people. Every one who Christ died for will go to heaven!!! John 10:28, John 6:37, 2 Tim 2:19, etc.
---trey on 7/10/14


There is an icon that shows the Risen Lord standing on two bronze gates that have been torn loose from their hinges. On one side, Jesus is drawing up Adam, and on the other side, Eve. Under the gates you can see all sorts of locks and manacles, all broken.

When Jesus rose from the dead, he broke the gates of hell, and that is why they will never prevail against the Church.
---Monk_Brendan on 7/9/14


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The gates of hell is a whirlpool in Caesarea Phillippi just north of Israel. This naturally occuring whirlpool is said to be the link between the overworld and the underworld and the "gods" would transverse between the two at this location. Religious followers would sacrifice things by throwing valuables into this whirlpool to please the "gods." If the items were sucked down your sacrifice was accepted. Jesus used this location to start the church saying that the forces of evil (demons) would not destroy his church.
---Scott1 on 7/9/14


The gates of hell are only referred to in one verse

Matt 16:18 " And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it"

The place where Jesus said this was Caesarea Philipi, known to be where the Greeks worshipped Gods, the Romans worshipped Gods, and where Baal was worshipped.

Certainly, the worship of other Gods and the desire to be like God is the gates of hell or the power of hell. It is used to dissuade people from knowing the one true and living God. The truth that Jesus is the TRUE Messiah and Son of God the power of Hell cannot destroy.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/9/14


The gates of Hades are what keep people locked into death. Jesus said those gates will not prevail. So the dead will be made alive again. Jesus will break them down for good.
---love.jesus on 7/8/14


I agree Darlene! Also, I believe they're literal (real) gates Gayla. I suspect one might be called "unbelief" & the other "unrepentance".

When people die, in their sin, the gates of hell (their unbelief & unrepentance) slam closed loudly behind & confining/binding them forever in hell.
---Leon on 7/8/14


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Those in hell don't need gates, They'r not getting out anyway. God provided
like a gate for peoples from going into hell, Acts 2 v 38 is like that gate.
Manner of peoples, the doctrines & commandments of men trinity religrelig org's churches, those that worship other gods, atheist, agnostics, men women perversions other etc by their choice. Are trying to go over, under, around Acts 2 v 38 salvation of God, They'r treading on like a trap door to hell. Where it says manner of peoples with the devils influence, all part of the gates of hell. Matt. 16 v 18. The manner of peoples are trying to prevail against the Acts Church of The Living God, & shall not.
---Lawrence on 7/8/14


I don't recall what the Bible Gates of Hell are but to me the gates of hell are the sins people commit which will take them to hell. I am sure there's more to them than that. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 7/8/14


I believe that there are literal gates to Hell that keeps in the ones who are there, and seperates it from the ones who are in Christ JESUS.
---Gayla on 7/8/14


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