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Adam Saw The Deception

A radio preacher said Adam was standing there with Eve when she was deceived. Is there any Bible evidence of that being true?

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It is of course hypothetical, however had Adam stood upon God's word it is possible he could have lead Eve to repentance. Warwick/////


You make statements Warwick with no understanding whatsoever. Our repentance is based upon the Promised of God to repent, all based upon Jesus death and resurrection. NO SUCH repentance was even suggested to Adam and Eve if they sinned at that time. Repentance is ony effective AFTER you SIN bringing death upon yourself.
YOU WILL DIE...period, end of sentence.

Eve DIED the moment she ate the fruit, not the moment her eyes were opened. "Death" does not mean opened eyes. Even if her eyes had not yet been opened to see good and evil, she still DIED the moment she ate the fruit.
---kathr4453 on 7/28/14


g, having often suffered under her abuse my comments were mild.

My comments on Adam and Eve were based upon Scripture and upon what I believe can be drawn from it.

The nub of the matter is: we know from Scripture that Adam failed as God blamed him for the mess, because he listened to his wife, not God.

It is of course hypothetical, however had Adam stood upon God's word it is possible he could have lead Eve to repentance. But he wimped out, bringing God's curse upon the whole of creation Romans 8:21,22. Don't you agree?
---Warwick on 7/28/14


Romans 3:25 whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God, YES IT DOES CLUNY!


And then we also see 3 times in the Gospels Jesus saying out of His own mouth .."this is the Blood of the Covenant which is SHED FOR YOU . "

Justified by His Blood, and saved by His Life.


What is wrong with you Cluny? Or is it the Orthodox Religion that is the problem here. Let me ask, when you take communion, do you take both the bread and wine or just the bread? I hear it is just the bread, but not the wine representing the Blood of Jesus Christ? Why is that?
---kathr4453 on 7/28/14


"Eve was deceived, Adam chose. Both are were at fault....What happened to taking the word as truth?
This truth keeps us out of trouble/false doctrines." ---g on 7/27/14

well said, g.

"The devil is still mentally manipulating people everywhere, i.e., playing on the emotions of vulnerable women ( & some men) & ensnaring them in all kinds of ungodliness."
---Leon on 7/27/14

Please look in God's mirror.
---aka on 7/28/14


Warwick & Leon,
you should both be ashamed.
Godly men/women should never make fun/pick on people because they disagree/misunderstand their post.

I'm sure you know not to add or take away from the Word of God.

No wonder those in sin don't want to know Christ.
Especially if this is how "Christians" act/speak.

The word says Eve was deceived by Satan. It doesn't say the things you stated. Such assumption/statements should never be made by God fearing people.
When we speculate, we get ourselves into trouble/false doctrines.

Eve was deceived, Adam chose. Both are were at fault.

What happened to taking the word as truth?
This truth keeps us out of trouble/false doctrines.
---g on 7/27/14




Warwick: Maybe, but I think Eve, not being quite as experienced as Adam, was just plain naive & thereby very easy to manipulate. I suspect two things happened in the conversation she had with the cunning serpent. He caused her to think God had lied & subsequently Adam was a fool for believing Him.

Observation: Women are more subjective (feelings & words oriented) than men. What sounds good oftentimes sways them easily. That's probably why the serpent targeted Eve.
Men are more objective. We want facts, i.e., Show me how what you say works.

The devil is still mentally manipulating people everywhere, i.e., playing on the emotions of vulnerable women ( & some men) & ensnaring them in all kinds of ungodliness.
---Leon on 7/27/14


\\I have absolutely no idea of what you're babbling (trying to verbalize) about Cluny.
---Leon on 7/26/14\\

I put my faith in the ENTIRE JESUS CHRIST, who is both God and Man in one hypostasis.

Not just a piece of His human nature--in this case, His blood, which ceases to be part of Him once it is shed from His body.

BTW, NOWHERE does the NT say we are to put our faith in the "shed blood of Christ".

There is only ONE place where it uses the term "shed blood"--and you'd be surprised to see the context.

NOW do you understand, Leon? Or shall I put my answer in more concrete terms?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/14


Leon, maybe Eve was already like that? Her behaviour shows a self-centred wilfulness. God said no, but her actions show she said I will!

There are just some women you 'meet' who make you glad you have the wife you have. Praise God for that!
---Warwick on 7/27/14


Warwick: When will Kat's infernal rantings end? She truly is an example of that Proverbs 27:15 woman.

I wonder if Eve, after eating the forbidden fruit, became just like that (a wild woman) to the extent she nagged, nagged, nagged Adam to the point where he ate just to shut her up?! That, could be "the real question" here! :)
---Leon on 7/27/14


I have absolutely no idea of what you're babbling (trying to verbalize) about Cluny.
---Leon on 7/26/14

Cluny is referring to the orthodox (not Orthodox) view Blood and Body of Christ for full restoration.

We are to take His Body and Blood into our daily walk.
---aka on 7/27/14




Warwick, to understand Romans 5, one must also understand what "Made Alive" in Christ means. And what IN ADAM ALL DIE, also means.

You believe animals and plants and angels and asteroids etc, are all IN ADAM, making your teaching VERY ODD.

If you truly understood that God could not have made another EVE as Jerry suggested, you would have put away your childish words and behavior here and stood by truth rather than by your personal human emotions breaking forth in a temper tantrum loosing credibility in the process. The fact is Warwick, you really don't understand Romans 5. Eve could no more be replaced and made over anymore than the Body of Christ could be discarded and made over.
---kathr4453 on 7/27/14


So the real question here should be, where was God standing when Eve was tempted, and where was God as Adams head standing when they both sinned bringing death to themselves? Was God within earshot, or totally out of earshot? Was God taken by surprise? Could God have stopped the serpent? Where and by what means had rebellion already taken place? The fact that Jesus was FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD TO TAKE AWAY SIN, and Jesus being the Head of the New Creation where no evil or sin will enter in ever again, meaning no temptation either will enter in is something that must be understood before one can truly understand the depth of Genesis 1-3, and most notably Genesis 3:15.
---kathr453 on 7/27/14


To those who love the Word of God.

Exodus 32, especially note verses 13-14. God brings Israel out of Egypt, Moses is gone for a while talking to God, the people sin by making a molten calf. Moses returns, sees what they have done, and God says right then He is going to kill them all. Moses prays and intercedes for the people. BUT it was not Moses prayers or Moses efforts or even Moses himself that saved Israel,...IT WAS MOSES REMINDING GOD OF HIS PROMISE TO ABRAHAM ISAAC AND JACOB THAT GOD REPENTED OF WANTING TO KILL THEM.

Adam had no such promise concerning Eve to bring to God.
---kathr4453 on 7/26/14


Leon, trying to have a rational conversation with Kath is impossible. Sometimes she writes sense but mostly she is all over the place. Maybe she is odd or maybe she just likes to sow confusion?
---Warwick on 7/26/14


\\Leon, even today, OUR RESTORATION is based solely on the finished works of Jesus Christ and His shed blood,\\

ARe we supposed to put our faith in Christ's send blood or in the ENTIRE Christ?

My own faith is in the entire Christ!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/26/14


I have absolutely no idea of what you're babbling (trying to verbalize) about Cluny. Chill, take a pill & try again later when your thoughts, hopefully, are not as fuzzy.
---Leon on 7/26/14


Never mind Kat! :)

"...But I do understand you, and therefore choose not to become involved in your machinations."
---Warwick on 7/25/14


You're absolutely right Warwick. What was I thinking when I thought I might engage Kat in a reasonably civilized conversation? What an ill-tempered shrew she is! No mas!!!
---Leon on 7/26/14


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\\Leon, even today, OUR RESTORATION is based solely on the finished works of Jesus Christ and His shed blood,\\

ARe we supposed to put our faith in Christ's send blood or in the ENTIRE Christ?

My own faith is in the entire Christ!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/26/14


All I can say to you is "IF" Adam was beside Eve when she was talking to the serpent, I believe he would've manned up (spoke up) & kept Eve from eating. But, the serpent cunningly sought an opportunity to isolate her from Adam to do his dirty work.

---Leon on 7/24/14

No he would not have. He loved Eve MORE than he loved God.
He did what any man does who is not following after Christ does. He let the woman be the head instead of being the head himself. His flesh was weak.
The Word of God plainly says he was WITH her. He knew what the fruit & the tree looked like, why didn't he swat it out of her hand then? Huh?
The point is Adam CHOSE Eve over God, simple.
---g on 7/25/14


Leon, please tell us all what your definition of restore means, and, scripture to back up any promise of restoration from God to Adam if Eve got out of line.

We have promises today of forgiveness, based solely on the PROMISES OF GOD. But you assume Adam could persuade God based on Adams faith in Adam himself, having some sort of special standing that what ADAM wanted Adam may have achieved? What a false concept you teach.

If you eat the fruit YOU SHALL DIE. Period. End of sentence.

So to post your nonsense "a 4th time "' as if we didn't get it the first, gives you no more persuasion power than you imagine Adam had.
---kathr4453 on 7/26/14


Leon, even today, OUR RESTORATION is based solely on the finished works of Jesus Christ and His shed blood, as He too intercedes for His Body, Bride, Church, when we sin.

What did Adam have, or what did Adam do, or on what basis would this "restoration" take effect? Adams's good looks?

Plus you give NO scripture that Adams prayers could have restored Eve. Why do you insist on making up stuff Leon, and then BOLDING YOUR NONSENSE HERE 4 TIMES, as if your own words have power of truth.......not found in scripture.
---kathr453 on 7/26/14


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Genesis 3:6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat.

Eve ate first. James 1 clearly state....temptation acted upon leads to death, just as God told Adam and Eve KNEW. No amount of prayer can RESTORE one back to LIFE after death except through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. When God wrapped both in animal skins, a type and shadow of sin covering until Jesus came to take away sin and GIVE LIFE through Him alone pointed to the ONLY WAY of redemption. To suggest restoration or redemption any other way or in any other is blasphemy.
---kath445 on 7/26/14


It took both to eat to see they were naked. Agreement can be a bad thing. If any two agree Adam and Eve agree about the fruit. He agreed with his wife. The wife is a helper for the husband, the husband is to protect his wife. Not put her under his feet. Do believe Adam could of said come Eve let's go names some more animals or he could have told the serpent get out of here. But that didn't happen. But Jesus told satan to get out of here.
---Bryan on 7/26/14


Kat:...GOD COULD'VE healed (RESTORED) Eve if only Adam had taken the matter in an appeal (prayer) TO HIM instead taking matters into his own hands & partaking in Eve's disobedience....
---Leon on 7/25/14
---Leon on 7/25/14
---Leon on 7/25/14


Leon, are you saying anyone can be "restored " apart from the blood of Jesus Christ?
---kathr4453 on 7/25/14


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Who knows Kath, maybe I just don't understand Romans 5 at all!

But I do understand you, and therefore choose not to become involved in your machinations.
---Warwick on 7/25/14


Kat:...God could've healed (restored) Eve if only Adam had taken the matter in an appeal (prayer) TO HIM instead taking matters into his own hands & partaking in Eve's disobedience....
---Leon on 7/25/14
---Leon on 7/25/14


Leon, in reading Genesis, I don't see where Adam would have even gotten such an idea that he could (restore) Eve or that restoration of a direct command was even in the cards. It still would have taken the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ to wash away Eve's sin.....but scripture never indicates even a possibility that in Eve all could die either.

Eve was taken from Adam side, and not created separately or individually out of the dust of the earth, and this is what I think people do not get here in this argument. The short-sightedness is believing if Adam had acted differently, there could have been a different outcome. They were ONE, and Adam being the Head did what any loving husband or father would have done.
---kathr4453 on 7/25/14


Ephesians 5:25
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it,

Colossians 3:19
Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.

John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

I believe so many have missed this great message right from the beginning.

Paul in Romans 5.14 calling Adam "a type of the one who was to come", what other type could this possibly mean? Adam certainly was not a god or even God, or even 100% God and 100% man.

To understand types and shadows one would see Adam was a TYPE or foreshadowing of Jesus taking our sin upon Him and dying for us.
---kathr453 on 7/25/14


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The serpent only spoke to Eve, Genesis 3:1
She accepted what was said concerning the opening of the eyes but at first she had said, "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die."
We know that Adam taught his wife concerning the tree since God did not directly tell her about the tree, Genesis 2:16_17. We cannot tell what means of communication the serpent used that Adam did not hear or how long it was until Eve conceded.

Adam yielded to Eve (regardless who was behind it), "Romans 6:16 "Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey, whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?"

I side with Warwick.
---Nana on 7/25/14


Kat: Jerry's short-sighted (blind) comments about replacing Eve ignores the fact that God could've healed (restored) Eve if only Adam had of taken the matter in an appeal (prayer) to Him instead taking matters into his own hands & partaking in Eve's disobedience. The blood red thread that runs throughout Scripture (Gen.-Rev.) is God's redemptive love for & restoration of mankind. He's not a God who rejects & is unforgiving towards us. That's the "god of this world", the hateful devil.
---Leon on 7/25/14


Warwick, certainly you disagree with Jerry here who also added Adam didn't have enough faith to believe God would make another woman for Adam. Just think about that comment. firstly Jesus was foreordained before the foundation of the world to take away sin. So if the first Eve was the first and only sinner, then only Eve would have qualified for redemption. And think.....how would scripture play out with the "Last Eve" And the Last man Adam, who is Jesus Christ.

So all your arguments here re: Adam and Eve's "if only, what if" etc, are only trying to rewrite scripture. And why didn't YOU address Jerry's awful statement? Is it because YOU really don't understand Romans 5 at all?
---kathr4453 on 7/25/14


David, I just noticed your question of 19th July "If Adam was with Eve when she ate the forbidden fruit, why do you think God, when he pronounced his judgment on Adam, condemned Adam for being deceived by Eve, and not by Satan?"

As Genesis 3:6 says Adam was with Eve. As head Adam should have protected Eve from Satan's wiles, then corrected her, when she had eaten, maybe then being able to bring her to repentance. He failed in his duty and as head God blamed him "Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, 'You shall not eat from it'"
---Warwick on 7/24/14


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"Just an observation of how most men are in their flesh these days. Look at how many children are fatherless. That's a big example." g

i think on judgement day we are going to find out the root of fatherless children and the extent of the actual truth.

maybe if you could see that it is actually women and the worldly system that also drive the man out of the home and away from his children.

this is a big example of what happens when eve strays too far from the truth.
---aka on 7/24/14


"...Not utilizing hurt feelings. Just an observation of how most men are in their flesh these days.[HUH?! :)]...
Trying to place blame on just Eve is redundant...."[HUH?! :)]
---g on 7/24/14


Gee g!: I'm not trying to place blame on "the woman" (EVE).
The Bible plainly says she was deceived (tricked, fooled). But, because God put Adam in charge, yes, Adam was responsible for sin entering into the world.

All I can say to you is "IF" Adam was beside Eve when she was talking to the serpent, I believe he would've manned up (spoke up) & kept Eve from eating. But, the serpent cunningly sought an opportunity to isolate her from Adam to do his dirty work.
---Leon on 7/24/14


Tempting her to eat, the devil used Eve as bait to make Adam sin. Eve ate FIRST. That's when the damage was done & the trap was set.

---Leon on 7/23/14

Not utilizing hurt feelings. Just an observation of how most men are in their flesh these days. Look at how many children are fatherless. That's a big example.

Anyway, if that were the case, then why is it that their eyes were not opened until AFTER Adam ate of the fruit?
Adam was with her. That is what scripture says. I am not reading into it, you are by saying he was somewhere in the garden when that is not what scripture says. Trying to place blame on just Eve is redundant.
The word of God says through ADAM all have sinned.
---g on 7/24/14


You're welcome Love & Adetunji. At your service! :)

Mark_E: What the devil means for evil "Almighty" God always turns for the good of people who love the Lord. Perhaps the question "why does Satan tempt us?" would be a good subject for another blog. ijs

Yes, look at the lives of Job, Daniel, Joseph, etc.
---Leon on 7/24/14


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Leon, thank you, that is helpful.
---love.jesus on 7/24/14


Leon: Thank you for the good definitions of temptation & test that you have given in your last post.
---Adetunji on 7/24/14


an event or situation that reveals the strength or quality of someone or something by putting them under strain.
---Leon on 7/23/14

Tempting vs. testing IMHO is a very subtle Biblical issue.

Satan tempts, God tests. This everyone knows who studies the Bible.

Yet there are deeper issues than just will we sin or not. Such as why does Satan tempt us and is the temptation of Satan used by God as a testing?

If we follow the story of Job, we see that God gives Satan permission to tempt Job. Satan's purpose seems to be to "embarrass" God or to show God to be a liar. Satan's purpose in tempting us is always about God, not us.

The tempting of Job also can viewed as a testing by God.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/24/14


So when jesus was in the with wilderness with Satan, he had a desire to do something especially wrong.

Now do you understand that words can be synonymous but slightly different depending on circumstance like entertain and amuse?
---aka on 7/24/14


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TEMPTATION: a desire to do something, especially something wrong. Synonyms: urge, itch, impulse, inclination ~ lure, allurement, enticement, seduction, attraction, fascination.

TEST: a procedure intended to establish the quality, performance, or reliability of something, especially before it is taken into widespread use. Synonyms: trial, experiment, test case, case study, pilot study, trial run, tryout, dry run, check, examination, assessment, evaluation, appraisal, investigation, inspection, analysis, scrutiny, study, probe, exploration, screening, workup, quiz ~ an event or situation that reveals the strength or quality of someone or something by putting them under strain.
---Leon on 7/23/14


What is the difference between Tempting and Testing?
---love.jesus on 7/23/14


"No, Adam wasn't gardening. The damage wasn't done UNTIL Adam ate. [?] Her eyes weren't open until Adam ate. [?]...

Adam was like most men. Not wanting to be the head. Weak.[HUH!]...He didn't stop her...he loved Eve more than...God."
---g on 7/23/14


Gee g! How do you know what Adam wasn't doing? Yes, the Bible says Adam was with her ~ OBVIOUSLY IN THE GARDEN.

Sounds like you're subjectively characterizing Adam based on your hurt emotions. You didn't know him personally, so how can you accuse him of weakness? Honestly, did a preacher tell you that?

Tempting her to eat, the devil used Eve as bait to make Adam sin. Eve ate FIRST. That's when the damage was done & the trap was set.
---Leon on 7/23/14


2. I believe when Adam returned to Eve, after a time of gardening, etc., she had already eaten & the damage was done. Adam saw & likely heard the change in her voice. He had a major decision to make, i.e., give into Eve & eat or seek God to fix the matter. Obviously, he chose poorly & ate.
3. If Adam were there when Eve decided to eat, surely he would've stopped her Luke. :)

---Leon on 7/21/14

No, Adam was not gardening. The damage wasnt done UNTIL Adam ate. Her eyes werent open until Adam ate. Adam was with her, the bible says he was.

Adam was like most men. Not wanting to be the head. Weak. Not saying guys here are, just general. He didnt stop her, cause he loved Eve more than he loved God.
---g on 7/23/14


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Wivv,
the passage does say,
"So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. "she also gave to her husband with her"and he ate"
Gave to her husband with her. He had to have been with her otherwise the writer would not have mentioned it. Agape
---Luke on 7/23/14


Genesis 3:6-7 (NASB) "When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was desirable to make one wise, she took from its fruit and ate, and she gave also to her husband with her, and he ate." There is no definitive statement that Adam was there. A person can reason that he might have been there since there doesn't seem to be a time space noted between when Eve ate and she offered the fruit to Adam. There are though three very obvious things that did happen: 1. Satan tempted Eve and not Adam, 2. This eating did cause sin to enter to the world, 3. Adam failed in his responsibility as the "man of the house" and this caused all of us to be separated from God.
---wivv on 7/22/14


"I don't see this in Scripture. They knew immediately after eating they were naked & hid. If Eve was alone, she would have done the same thing [hid]. No, they were together & Adam was SILENT. He [gave into] Eve & was angry at God later because of his own...weakness...How many of us have been weak & [yielded] to temptation & blamed God later for giving us the temptation?"
---Mark_Eaton on 7/22/14


Mark_E: I respectfully disagree with your conclusions.

1. God doesn't temp. He tests!
2. The garden scenario of "divide & conquer" is seen throughout the Bible.
3. Adam was guilty of DISOBEDIENCE, not SILENCE.
---Leon on 7/22/14


Adam saw & likely heard the change in her voice. He had a major decision to make, i.e., give into Eve & eat or seek God to fix the matter. Obviously, he chose poorly & ate...If Adam were there when Eve decided to eat, surely he would've stopped her
---Leon on 7/21/14

I do not see this in Scripture. They knew immediately after eating they were naked and hid. If Eve was alone, she would have done the same thing.

No, they were together and Adam was SILENT. He surrendered his will to Eve and was angry at God later because of his own lack weakness.

How many of us have been weak and given into temptation only to blame God later for giving us the temptation?
---Mark_Eaton on 7/22/14


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Leon, I think we are in basic agreement.
---love.jesus on 7/21/14


"If things got messed up so early in human history, God must have planned it that way."
---love.jesus on 7/21/14


In that God knows all things, certainly He knew Adam & Eve would sin (fail the initial test). Thus began mankind's education (maturation) process. Ever since sin has entered into the world, school has been in for all of us human beings. How well we pay attention to & obey God's classroom instructions will ultimately determine who will graduate (cum laude) or flunk out (oh lordy). :)
---Leon on 7/21/14


"...Adam was responsible for Eve. [G2:21-25] He knowingly disobeyed God... Adam [could've] refused to follow [Eve's lead]. He should've, but didn't. Before she [grabbed the fruit], he should have stopped her..."
---Luke on 7/21/14


1. Yes, Adam was responsible for Eve. God put her under his care. (G2:21-25)
2. I believe when Adam returned to Eve, after a time of gardening, etc., she had already eaten & the damage was done. Adam saw & likely heard the change in her voice. He had a major decision to make, i.e., give into Eve & eat or seek God to fix the matter. Obviously, he chose poorly & ate.
3. If Adam were there when Eve decided to eat, surely he would've stopped her Luke. :)
---Leon on 7/21/14


If things got messed up so early in human history, God must have planned it that way
---love.jesus on 7/21/14


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Eve blamed the serpent, and Adam blamed God for giving him Eve, but he didn't trust God that He could provide a replacement for Eve.
---jerry6593 on 7/19/14


jerry, there is no evidence in scripture that God would have provided a replacement of Eve.

As a matter of fact Adam dying with Eve is a type of Christ who died for our sin. Just as Eve was taken from the side of Adam SO IS the CHURCH taken from the side of Jesus...bone of His bone, flesh of His flesh just as Ephesians 5-6 explain. Adam KNEW what he was doing and he did it out of love for eve.
---kathr4453 on 7/21/14


//
If Adam was with Eve when she ate the forbidden fruit, why do you think God, when he pronounced his judgment on Adam, condemned Adam for being deceived by Eve, and not by Satan?//

Dear David,
God found Adam responsible because he was not deceived, Eve was. Adam was responsible for Eve. He knowingly disobeyed God. Eve had an excuse. Adam could have refuse to follow the lead of his wife, he should have, but didn't. Before she reached out to grab that fruit, he should have stopped her. Agape
---Luke on 7/21/14


Leon, what TRUTH could you possibly be seeking that would chance the fact that in Adam all die. It doesn't matter where Adam was standing, what matters is what Adam did. Adam knew the bottom line.
---kathr4453 on 7/20/14


It is said as clearly as it possibly can be said in Genesis 3:6. Please read it for yourself.
---Rita_H on 7/20/14


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It matters only to people who seek after the truth.
---Leon on 7/19/14


Does it matter?
---kathr4453 on 7/19/14

yes and no
---aka on 7/19/14


Genesis 3:6 "So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate." --Warwick

Warwick
If Adam was with Eve when she ate the forbidden fruit, why do you think God, when he pronounced his judgment on Adam, condemned Adam for being deceived by Eve, and not by Satan?

When God speaks to us, he speaks to our hearts and minds. Perhaps Satan spoke to Eve in the same manner. This could be why it says Satan deceived Eve, and not that Satan deceived Adam and Eve, even though Adam was with her.




---David on 7/19/14


No. Eve had strayed from her husband and went snacking between meals. She knew that the serpent had contradicted the word of God, but she CHOSE him over God. Many people do that today - choose some man's opinion over God's word.

Eve blamed the serpent, and Adam blamed God for giving him Eve, but he didn't trust God that He could provide a replacement for Eve.


---jerry6593 on 7/19/14


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Dear Leon,
I do not believe that Adam was present when Eve was deceived by the serpent. She was along. "for God knows that "in the day" you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil" Gen. 3:5. If it was the same day there would be no need to say "in the day". He would have said,
"For God knows when you eat of it your eyes will be opened..."

Now, "on the day" when Eve was with Adam, she ate of the tree because it was good for food, and pleasant to the eyes. And she gave to Adam who was now with her. Agape
---Luke on 7/19/14


Does it matter?
---kathr4453 on 7/19/14


Leon, That sounds plausible enough.
---love.jesus on 7/18/14


Love: Adam obeyed God & hadn't yet sinned. He was doing the work God had assigned him, i.e., naming the animals & gardening. Meanwhile, Eve went shopping, met & fell victim to the serpent's slick target marketing strategy. He "appealed" to her naivete & easily persuaded her to buy & eat the forbidden fruit. When Adam got home, Eve (eyes now wide open to good & evil) was able to manipulate Adam & "talked" him into to doing what he knew was wrong.

The serpent called God a liar & in doing so, indirectly called Adam a fool for believing Him. Eve may have told Adam, in so many words, "You don't know what you're talking about. I ate & I didn't die!"
---Leon on 7/18/14


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i agree with leon. animal shows always show the lion targeting and devouring the weakest link. but satan really wanted adam. he knew the best way was through eve. that is his best weapon still today.

the word used & #8219,im (pronounced
eem) does not only mean physical location. it also has to do with relationship and association.
---aka on 7/18/14


It is not clear from the context whether or not Adam was with Eve when she ate the fruit.
---love.jesus on 7/18/14


yes,
"... & she also gave some to her husband who was with her, & he ate" G3:6.
---Scott1 on 7/18/14

She turned to Adam & offered him some. Adam knew what God had said...it really doesn't matter if he was there or not [?]...
---Bryan on 7/18/14


Does G3:6 imply Eve gave to Adam who was with her at that particular moment or does it mean she gave to Adam (who was, generally speaking, with her in the garden) after he returned from doing tasks God had assigned him?

Did she really "turn to Adam" & offered him some or did she make the offer "after he returned" from his chores in the garden? Why didn't Adam speak up if he was already there?
---Leon on 7/18/14


"The usual understanding of this passage through the centuries has been that Adam & Eve were separated at the time. Some have asked why Adam allowed Eve to go to the Tree alone...I don't think this is something that matters one way or the other.
Glory to Jesus Christ!"
---Cluny on 7/17/14


I agree with what you said regarding the "usual understanding" Cluny. However, I think it does matter if we're to get a true understanding of what happened.

Adam told Eve what God said. I believe while Adam was gardening the devil seized the opportunity to dupe Eve who was out shopping. It's called divide & conquer.
---Leon on 7/18/14


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Cluny, I know that Adam not being with Eve was the usual understanding but scripture says he was with her.

I believe what scripture says and not the usual understanding.
Especially since scripture says to lean NOT to our own understanding.
Wouldn't you agree that scripture should come first?
---g on 7/18/14


A radio preacher said Adam was standing there with Eve when she was deceived. Is there any Bible evidence of that being true?
---Leon on 7/17/14

There is an entire book written on this subject named "The Silence of Adam" by Larry Crabb. The book asks the questions where was Adam and why was he silent during the temptation and ultimate fall of mankind?

I highly recommend this book to any Christian man who wants to grow in his walk with Christ, his walk of life, and his role as a husband.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/18/14


The usual understanding of this passage through the centuries has been that Adam and Eve were separated at the time.

Some have asked why Adam allowed Eve to go to the Tree alone.

While one should beware of radio preachers (I've heard of a man who supports himself writing scripts for them), I don't think this is something that matters one way or the other.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/17/14


"Is there any Bible evidence of that being true?" Yes.
"When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her, and he did eat." Gen 3:6 (KJV) In the NLT>NIV & ESV's "husband with her" reads "husband who was with her".
---josef on 7/17/14


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Leon, maybe I have missed the point of your question however as I see it is clearly answered by Genesis 3:6 "So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate."
---Warwick on 7/18/14


yes,
"...and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate" Gen 3:6.
---Scott1 on 7/18/14


She turned to Adam and oftered him some. Adam new what God had said don't eat from that tree. See it really doesn't matter if he was there are not Adam new what God said. Adam told Eve what God said or did he? Read it and see what Adam told Eve. May surprise you.
---Bryan on 7/18/14


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