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Finish It Here August 2014

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King James Bible
Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Jesus was saying those born in the FLESH meaning born of a woman, no greater man was there than John the Baptist, who was a prophet announcing Jesus Christ.
I personally would rather be Born of God/ Born from Above, Born of the Spirit of the Life of Christ. Jesus said in John Chapter 1, and John 3, and Im going with Jesus here in John chapter 1 and 3. Ye must be BORN AGAIN. So Barb, I see you have already decided what you believe. You want to stay in the flesh. NOT ME!
---kathr4453 on 9/5/14


But wait ACTS you quote, and Barb rejects Acts. LOL. Will Barb now accept your offer of ACTS not spoken by Jesus lips??? If she does, she plays games.
---kathr4453 on 9/5/14

No issue with me what Barb accepts or rejects. What stands out is that she searches, in spite of attacks. She will find what she searches and ask her/my Lord for.
She is not an "Attack Sheep", rather an Attacked Sheep. It is a mark for her and a mark for you.
GOD never raised an "Attack Sheep". Rather, he will deliver the Attacked.

You've been rebuked to be silent by scripture. So what is your witness here?
1Ti_2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
---Trav on 9/5/14


Kathr, I think you should read the whole chapter of Rev 12 and then come back here and tell me what you understand. Then perhaps we can share our thoughts and speak intelligently about it without malice.
---barb on 9/5/14


Poor Trav, also quoting Romans 11:26 which Barb does not believe, ....
Should anyone really take your comments here seriously? Ans: NO.
---kathr453 on 9/5/14

Thanks for confirmation, on many things,again. Was unaware Barb rejected Romans 11. I did too until I understood both houses of Israel being discussed. Gentiles translates:Nations/ethnos..usually divorced Israel. You reject, having not found the witnesses.
Barb is searching for witnesses and will find them before you do. Her search is openly visible. Her denials are of anything not witnessed....most seemingly yours. Wisely discerning of her.
Heb 8:8. Elaborates two houses, the Ezk grafting sticks covenanted. She'll figure the rest out without your kindnesses.
---Trav on 9/5/14


Those born of the woman will be keeping the commandments of God AND have the testimony of Jesus. There is no other way. Unfortunately, many prefer to believe that crafty fellow who catches you in his web of lies and then brags about it.

---barb on 9/5/14

Those born of what woman? So you are saying those born of some woman Keep the commandments, and it is this that makes them keep the commandments? How do you know YOU were born of this woman in the first place?
---kathr4453 on 9/5/14




Job 14:1

Man that is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble.


Job 15:14

What is man, that he should be clean? and he which is born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

Job 25:4

How then can man be justified with God? or how can he be clean that is born of a woman?

Sorry Barb, but someone had duped you!
---kathr453 on 9/5/14


Kathr, the law could not have saved the Pharisees because they did not heed Jesus' advice and corrections about the way they were keeping it. And also because they rejected their Messiah. See Rev. 12:17. Those born of the woman will be keeping the commandments of God AND have the testimony of Jesus. There is no other way. Unfortunately, many prefer to believe that crafty fellow who catches you in his web of lies and then brags about it.
---barb on 9/5/14


Barb, the Pharisees like Paul were fabulous law keepers, (Phil 3) rejected Jesus as their Messiah.(until Paul was saved) And Paul explains mental and spiritual failure in Romans 10
10 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved.

2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.

4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

remember Barb, these law keeping Pharisees CRUCIFIED JESUS! Can their law keeping save them?
---kathr4453 on 9/5/14


Thanks, Trav. It would be much easier for me if I just went with the flow but I want to walk the narrow Way not the popular one.

Jesus said "Search the scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life and they are they which testify of me."

---barb on 9/5/14


Luke, totally agree. The "complete Gospel" was revealed after His resurrection, as Jesus even said, I have many MORE things to say to you but the Holy Spirit our teacher will reveal these unto you. Jesus also spent time with the Apostles "after" His resurrection teaching them more concerning life and salvation based on His RISEN LIFE. Not to mention Acts 1:6-7 when the Apostles asked if Jesus was AT THAT TIME going to restore the Kingdom TO ISRAEL, Jesus answering, Only the Father knows the time of that promise. A TIME Jesus never taught in the four Gospels, but alluded to it in Matthew 24-25, paralleled with Zechariah 12-14. This promise can ONLY be fulfilled by a RISEN GLORIFIED CHRIST after the cross as well.
Agape!
---kathr4453 on 9/5/14




Kathr, Jesus came to His lost sheep, Israel. Was there ever any doubt in their minds that they were to keep God's commandments? If they understood one thing it was that the keeping of the commandments was of the utmost importance to God. Most of Jesus' teaching to them was on the correct way to keep His commandments, see Matt 15, Matt 23. Jesus never ever said that His death would in any way change the covenant His Father made with Israel. The Kingdom was taken away from them because they rejected their Messiah (John 19:15) but the covenant still stands and those who want to enter into His Kingdom will have to keep His rules.

And I'm not afraid to humble myself like a little child for a chance to enter into His Kingdom.

---barb on 9/5/14


Kathr,
I agree with what you state when you said,
"We are saved by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, who was foreordained before the foundation of the world, and this is called the EVERLASTING COVENANT WE SEE IN HEBREWS 13:20-21.
and what I believe barb is doing is that she is using only one part of the gospel not the whole gospel. In (Gen. 3:15) we are given a small part of the gospel. In Jesus time, another part of the gospel, after His resurrection we get the complete gospel. So all the books after Jesus death describe the complete gospel, taught by Paul and the rest of the Apostles. Salvation is never by works of the law. No one can be save by works which is taught in the last books. Agape
---Luke on 9/5/14


Yes the Bereans searched the scriptures daily to see if what Paul was saying was true. And no where can you find that anything he said was not true. Or that anyone accused him of lying. But wait ACTS you quote, and Barb rejects Acts. LOL. Will Barb now accept your offer of ACTS not spoken by Jesus lips??? If she does, she plays games.

Hebrews 11 is all OT right out of the OT having nothing to do with the LAW or keeping the Law, because the true marks of any Christian from Abel to today is SUFFERING, even like Moses the Law giver suffered. Check those scriptures for yourself to see if they are true. Then we 'll all let God have the last say. Not one word in Hebrews 11 about the Law. It's all about FAITH. And the Law is not of Faith.
---kathr4453 on 9/5/14


Rom_11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
---Trav on 8/29/14

Poor Trav, also quoting Romans 11:26 which Barb does not believe, and what this conversation is about as a continuation of the post this post is finishing, has on one hand here encouraged Barb to reject Romans 11, all the whole quoting it himself.

Maybe next time before you chime in Trav, with your under the breath insults, may actually want to read the conversation first before blowing your cover as someone TOTALLY CONFUSED, himself. Should anyone really take your comments here seriously? Ans: NO.
---kathr453 on 9/5/14


Your cover is now well blown.
---Warwick on 7/15/14

I am hung up on the Truth and nothing but the Truth.
---barb on 7/12/14

You hang tough Barb. I have more faith in you finding all answers you seek than your antagonist's. You realize by now one cannot enquire of the "self inflicted" doctrinal authority's here with questions that challenge or require effort. Multiple witnesses, they don't get paid for!!
Act_17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
---Trav on 9/4/14


Luke 18: 17 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.

Here says nothing about keeping the law.

Aka, just REREAD Luke 18, the closest was when Jesus was speaking to the rich young ruler..but added more than just keeping the commandments adding...sell all you have and FOLLOW ME. The only place you can follow Jesus is in death and resurrection life, becoming a new creature in the risen Christ.

The Kingdom of God is the New Creation of which Jesus is head. To "enter in" is through the veil, that is to say His Flesh...Hebrews 10 which means I am crucified with Christ. Just as Jesus said in John 6... To eat my flesh and drink my blood.
---kathr4453 on 9/4/14


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kather,

in luke 18, i believe that is to what he was referring.
---aka on 9/4/14


Ephesians 4:21

If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

Barb, here again Paul's heart absolutely supports the very verse you posted Jesus as saying. So we see, Paul never taught anything that Jesus never first taught or was not also taught in the OT under the various covenants. The One thing Paul makes clear that Jesus or OT never did is that under Grace both Jew and Gentile are a NEW CREATURE and not under the Law but under the Law of LIBERTY.

---kathr4453 on 9/4/14


well, if one we perfect in her/his whole earthly journey, keeping the commandments would save. even jesus said that. ///


aka, I'm not sure Jesus said that because in Adam all DIED. And it is Christ who brings LIFE out of death. so no, keeping the 10 commandments can never nor could ever bring life out of death. As we see Abel's acceptable sacrifice pointing to Jesus Christ was long long before God gave any commandments to Moses to give to Israel ALONE....Romans 5 make this perfectly clear.

Abel's sacrifice was that of the promises of the EVERLASTING Covenant, not Old Covenant or New Covenant, but the EVERLASTING Covenant.
---kathr4453 on 9/4/14


Kathr, Jesus said "Take MY yoke UPON YOU and LEARN OF ME". You have to do at least that or you'll never find rest for your soul in this world or the next.

I follow Jesus and not the unknown writer of Hebrews.
---barb on 9/4/14


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//no one is saved or even stays saved by keeping any commandments. We are saved by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ,//

well, if one we perfect in her/his whole earthly journey, keeping the commandments would save. even jesus said that.

but, who is like unto Him?

That's why we need jesus who lived and died as we do and resurrected as we will upon judgement because of His gracious Father, who gives us A Way back to Him through Jesus.
---aka on 9/4/14


OK Barb, I see you just don't understand what I posted. no one is saved or even stays saved by keeping any commandments. We are saved by the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, who was foreordained before the foundation of the world, and this is called the EVERLASTING COVENANT WE SEE IN HEBREWS 13:20-21. Now THIS Covenant is between Father Son and Holy Spirit on our behalf. We don't KEEP anything, we are KEPT, that is those who have entered HIS REST. Hebrews 3 and 4.

This IS the REST Jesus spoke of...rest from the LAW and the yoke of the LAW.
---kathr4453 on 9/4/14


Jesus was before the foundations of the earth.

The Prophets gave us certain things so that we might know that God controls all of history.

The Ministry of Jesus was the Fulfillment of the Prophecy concerning History and peoples, nations, and languages.
---yohanness_davsidon on 8/28/14

good calculation (assuming that jesus = jesus and not any other permutation.)
---aka on 9/4/14


Luke, I believe Barb was saying or rather agreeing that under the Old Covenant there was no forgiveness of Sin until Jesus came to put away sin once and for all. Unless I misunderstood her, I don't believe she contradicted herself.

The point of the conversation was how vitally important Paul is in explaining this to us, and that Paul and his teachings cannot be discarded, but in fact support all of what was told in the OT and what Jesus taught as well. God has always worked with man through Covenants, and those covenants were established in the OT. Therefore Paul is not a false teacher, but a very brilliant one who knew the OT front and back and how God used Paul to bring so many things to our attention.

Agape!
---kathr4453 on 9/4/14


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Kathr, the keeping of the ten commandments is what identifies God's Kingdom. Jesus died for His Kingdom and His blood covers those who enter into His Kingdom by keeping His commandments and abiding in His testimony. Rev. 12:17, Rev. 11:15-19, Matt 19:17.

I believe the words of Jesus and He said any branch that does not bear fruit He takes away and branches that do not abide in Him are destroyed. Paul goes beyond what Jesus taught and tries to bring the cast off branches back onto the vine. You can read for yourself what the apostle John said in 2 John 1:9 about those who go beyond and do not abide in the teaching of Christ.
---barb on 9/4/14


Jer 31:33 .... I will put my LAW in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their God and they shall be my people."
---barb on 9/3/14

Good to see posted. Verse speaks for itself and includes a mark/sign.
Men and women add to scriptures these days. To the point of being drawn into the large currents of popular belief of the day.
Two or more scriptural witnesses freed me from " All popular" trends. Yes, I will be the radical. But, then Christ and his Apostles were radical for their time. Personally will not argue with the prophets or the fulfillment they spoke of.
Psa_119:176 I have gone astray like a lost sheep, seek thy servant, for I do not forget thy commandments.
---Trav on 9/4/14


//The covenant between God and His people was never meant to pay anyone's death penalty. It was the perfect sacrifice (Jesus) who paid our debt.//

barb,
do you not think that you contradicted what you said with sentence #1 with sentence #2?
It was God who assigned Jesus to die on the cross under the New Covenant. Maybe you were trying to say something else, but it seems you are contradicting yourself. Jesus is God, but Jesus in His humanity was only doing what the Father had ordain for Him to do. AGape
---Luke on 9/4/14


Yes Barb, Jeremiah also reiterates the New Covenant promises to Israel, and we see that New Covenant is in His Blood, not the blood of bulls and goats, as well as the Indwelling Spirit promised with the New Covenant. The New Covenant replaces the Old Covenant to Israel, of which Gentiles are beneficiaries as was promised to Abraham, under the Abrahamic Covenant "in thee will all families of the earth be blessed". Paul explains this too in Galatians. Those branches broken off were broken off under the Old Covenant, as the New Covenant and Everlasting Covenant no one can ever be broken off.

Praise God The Lord showed this to Paul to reveal more fully to us today. Not something new, but hidden and now revealed.
God Bless.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/14


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Kathr, Jer 31:33 "But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days says the Lord, I will put my LAW in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their God and they shall be my people." Same covenant renewed and written in the hearts of God's people instead of on stone.

The covenant between God and His people was never meant to pay anyone's death penalty. It was the perfect sacrifice (Jesus) who paid our debt. You are right the commandments alone cannot save us, we must also abide in the testimony of Jesus.



---barb on 9/3/14


Barb, the Old covenant was a conditional covenant based on blessings for obedience. YET no one was saved under the law, for the law showed SIN, the law never forgave sin. If the Law could save, there would be no need for Jesus in the first place. The ROOT is the Abrahamic Covenant AKA the EVERLASTING Covenant that includes the NEW Covenant God makes with Israel making it not only possible but the very reason they can be grafted back in. They are not grafted back into the Old Covenant, nor are we, both Jew and Gentile under the New Testament grafted into the Old Covenant.

Ezekiel 36, Isaiah 14 and so many MORE places where God is going to bring them back and put His spirit in them to keep His statutes and ordnances.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/14


You just don't get it, do you? The problem with people like you Kathr is while you're busy pointing fingers at others, you don't see the fingers that point back at you.

Like a dog with stick, you just don't know when to let go, & you claim to walk in the Spirit? Really?! It's apparent you're just plain delusional & need deliverance only the Lord can give. Repent & be set free of the devils inhabiting your mind!
---Leon on 9/3/14


Kathr, nothing was made that Jesus did not make (John 1:3) so I'm sure He knew that a vine could not live without a root. It was Israel who did not keep their promise to God and Jesus took the Kingdom away from them. Matt 21:43. Any branch that does not abide in Him is cast off, withered, gathered and cast into the fire and burned. Those are Jesus' words, not mine.

---barb on 9/3/14


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Leon, you take yourself too too serious. You sound more like a drama queen every day. Look at your posts and see the tone you talk to almost EVERYONE here, so sarcastic and cutting. So very unchristlike. Where is the fruit of your spirit, where is 1st Corinthians 13 living out in you? Why do you have to find fault and evil in everyone who disagrees with you? You talk about LOVE, yet in action don't show that supernatural LOVE in you, that rises above?

Lighten up! Walk in the Spirit and you won't fill the lusts/works/ of the flesh.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/14


"Arf, arf, arf...ZORRO...arf, arf...I don't think arf, arf, arf... Lone Ranger arf, arf, arf, arf, arf..."
---kathr4453 on 9/2/14


Really kathr ~ did you really have to? My post here had NOTHING to do with you. Well, I guess you just can't help it. That's just who you are! :D
---Leon on 9/3/14


Oh my goodness, is ZORRO posting? I don't think masked men, the good ones that is take off their masks. At least ZORRO never did, or the Lone Ranger. Who is that masked man???? Was that from ZORRO or The Lone Ranger?

It's a bird, it's a plane...oh no it's Mr. Bill. Anyone remember Mr. Bill? I loved Mr Bill.


Didn't superman wear a mask too? Lois Lane didn't recognize him....maybe because he didn't wear his glasses....that's it.

Leon, take two Mydol and lay down for a while.
---kathr4453 on 9/2/14


Hi Barb, I was going to answer this last night, but wanted to pray about it.

In John, I am the vine and ye are the branches, vs Romans 11, some of the branches were broken off so the Gentiles could be grafted into the root. The difference is between the ROOT, and the VINE. A vine is not a root, and a root is not a vine. Therefore those broken off can be grafted back into the ROOT. And if GOD broke them off for a reason, so that you could be saved, it had nothing to do with not bearing fruit. So Paul explains many prophecies in the OT concerning the Jews. Otherwise how could anyone ever believe in God's everlasting promises. If He doesn't keep them with Israel, there is no reason to believe He will keep His promises to you.
---kathr4453 on 9/2/14


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My only reaction is one of amusement!
---learner2 on 9/2/14


Here's yet another cowardly sneak attacks from Anonymous (Is the USA in the Bible blog):

"...Leon has USED YOU for his own personal audience and vain-glory displaying the only way he can look good by making others look bad. Those kind of character flaws are so sad, showing one cannot stand on their own character or stand tall without standing on top of others they believe they have knocked down in some sort of victory. They see themselves standing head and shoulders above all others, while all others only see someone not measured next to Jesus Christ alone..."
---Anonymous on 9/2/14


Take off your mask so we can see who you are, you coward! The hiss of your words sounds like another adder on CN blogs.
---Leon on 9/2/14


Kathr, I will have to respond to your post from "Did God divorce Israel" here since the other blog is full.

I do not have to hear the word "Gentile" to understand Jesus' testimony regarding salvation.

Isaiah 49:6 "I will also give you for a light to the Gentiles that you may be my salvation unto the end of the earth". God eventually had to send His Son to be that Light, "I am the Light of the WORLD and WHOEVER follows me will not walk in darkness but shall have the Light of Life" John 8:12. John 10:17 "And other sheep I have which are not of this fold..." Matt 28:20 "Go ye therefore into ALL nations"...also see John 1:7-9.
---barb on 9/1/14


Jesus was before the foundations of the earth.

The Prophets gave us certain things so that we might know that God controls all of history.

The Ministry of Jesus was the Fulfillment of the Prophecy concerning History and peoples, nations, and languages.
---yohanness_davsidon on 8/28/14


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What did they say?
---yohanness_davsidon on 8/28/14

i realize these were the words of jesus. through all your calculations there must be a bottom line...a final answer. what is it?
---aka on 8/28/14


'I came to bring Division and a Sword {of The Spirit}.' said, Jesus.

The Prophets were since Adam.

What did they say?
---yohanness_davsidon on 8/28/14


from Gap Theory Vegetation...I came to bring Division and a Sword.---yohanness_davsidon on 8/27/14


your division skills seem fine. now, if you could just bring witness and the prophets and logic, it might sharpen the dull sword with which you equip yourself.

otherwise, you are just clunking us over the head with a big piece of metal, which causes a splitting headache and not division.
---aka on 8/28/14


Dear Samuel,
It is a question of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. When a person does not believe in the promises of God, how can he be saved? You see those who are not saved,
"They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart" (Eph. 4:18). But those who are saved, we are told,
"And I am sure of this, that He who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ" (Phil. 1:6).
Third, but you do not have to have faith in Christ, you can trust in yourself, but you will never be sure that way. Agape
---Luke on 8/26/14


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//I and many Protestant churches teach Salvation is offered to everyone and do not believe in the security of the Believer. So why am I and my church all condemned because we do not believe as you do.//

Do you feel condemned? Hey, it's ok for you not to believe in the assurance of our salvation. It takes faith, You see, you have to put your faith in the Lord, that He will make you stand,
"so that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, "who will sustain you to the end," guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. "God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord" (1 Cor. 1:7-9).
---Luke on 8/25/14


//I and many Protestant churches teach Salvation is offered to everyone and do not believe in the security of the Believer. So why am I and my church all condemned because we do not believe as you do.//

When did I say all SDA's are condemned? And, it's ok for you not to believe in the assurance of our salvation. You just do not trust God. You see, I put my faith in the Lord, that He will make me stand,
"so that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, "who will sustain you to the end," guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. "God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord" 1 Cor. 1:7-9.
---Luke on 8/24/14


//Yes we are to live in Submission to JESUS. Which is why I keep the Sabbath and follow JESUS because I am saved by Grace through the Blood of JESUS.//

Samuel, if you feel convicted, that you are not following Christ, if you don't keep the Saturday Sabbath, by all means do not miss it. If you are hung up on doing the Sabbath, I will not force you to not do it. The same with eating pork, if ham sandwiches are bad for you, by all means do not eat them. Paul says, some regard the day, and others don't. If a guy regards the day, we should not offend him.
To us, the Sabbath was a picture of things to come (Col. 2), it was a shadow, when the substance comes, we do not need a shadow. Read Heb. 4,5. We have entered into rest through Christ.
---Luke on 8/22/14


Paul wants them to live in submission to their new master, Jesus Christ.

---Luke on 8/19/14

Yes we are to live in Submission to JESUS. Which is why I keep the Sabbath and follow JESUS because I am saved by Grace through the Blood of JESUS.

I do not do anything to save myself. But I just do not believe in once saved always saved.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/19/14


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God does not make anyone kill any other. Every human is born in sin and it's our choice what we do with our lives. Everything we do is by choice.we choose where we live, whether we go to school, or whatever we choose to do with our lives.
---shira4368 on 8/19/14


This question was asked by someone here on CN "Why would God raise the wicked just to annihilate them?
When I read it I did not have time to answer, yet thought it was a valid question, therefore I will answer it here and now.
Why? "Those who hate him He will repay to their face, [with] destruction, He will not be slow to repay to their face those who hate him." Deut. 7:10 "At the breath of God they perish, at the blast of his anger they are no more." Job 4:9 NIV
---Josef on 8/17/14


"Pretty cool. thanks for sharing." Aka, as always, it was my pleasure.
Correction to previous post the following line was meant to read "The answer is simply that the purpose of the lake of fire is to [literally] take whatever is place therein out of existence.
---Josef on 8/16/14


I noticed what I thought was an interesting and revealing question on the "Genna Hades Hell blog". The question was to Samuelbb7 yet I feel compelled to answer. The question was "How would one go about casting hell into the lake of fire ?(literally)" Rev 20:14 The answer is simply that the purpose of the lake of fire is to take whatever is place therein out of existence. The 'grave', ["hades" or hell G86] will no longer be necessary at that time because there is no more death or decay, only life.
---Josef on 8/10/14

Pretty cool. thanks for sharing.
---aka on 8/16/14


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I had to say, it is just wrong to have a web site for Christians, and they whipped it up with will different intellectuals like they got on there Einstein, some of them kind of folks. .Remenber God Is a Holy yet , Jealous God! Be carefull..

IT is a injustice, Insult to Jesus Christ.
to have the muslim religion on a christian web sight.If they had a idea of ok. Here an Islamic web site and then it be separate that' Ok ... I got NO problem.Already had a few people saying stuff " Yeah, Our God Allah way better!"
So, if you have people who are NOT sure or even saved or know or kinda just floating try to see ...
It very bad to THINK about it!
God is NOT find it comical one bit!
Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 8/16/14


Next question: Why do you pick and choose which parts of tradition you accept-- the same tradition that gave you the NT to start with to which you appeal?
---Cluny on 8/14/14

I will answer that.

First, my theology is Orthodox and my worship is Pentecostal. I appreciate the contribution to our understanding of God by Orthodox scholars like Athanasius. And I appreciate the freeness of worship that I see and feel at Pentecostal churches.

However, ever evolving tradition is a problem for both Orthodox Christians and Orthodox Jews. Nothing stays in a vacuum. What you have today is not what the first churches had. Cannot be. If you think it is, you are fooling yourself.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/15/14


I noticed what I thought was an interesting and revealing question on the "Genna Hades Hell blog". The question was to Samuelbb7 yet I feel compelled to answer. The question was "How would one go about casting hell into the lake of fire ?(literally)" Rev 20:14 The answer is simply that the purpose of the lake of fire is to take whatever is place therein out of existence. The 'grave', ["hades" or hell G86] will no longer be necessary at that time because there is no more death or decay, only life.
---Josef on 8/10/14


Kathr4453, Leon, Darlene_1, Elena

Thank you all for praying. God bless you more.
---Adetunji on 8/10/14


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Hello, Bro.Adetunji, my best prayers will be also, for you & all Nigeria, any where else.I was contacted by some other Nigerian friends, I talk to about Christ,etc. I apologize that I am not too, savy (knowlegeble) about it. I had trouble sometimes, yes, prayers will be on going for you our Brother Adetunji in Jesus name.
Love of Jesus! Elena 9555
---Elena_9555 on 8/10/14


Adetunji I am so sorry that such a terrible disease has attacked the people of your Country. I will certainly be in prayer for you,your family,and your Country. Thank you all for your prayers. I feel I am very blessed to know you all through this site,you're very special people. Leon what a precious memory your Grandmother gave you. Mine gave me dough to roll out and taught me how to sew on a treadle sewing machine I was about five. Aren't we blessed when we have Grandparents who treasure and love us. May God be with all of you and keep and bless you. God Bless Darlene 1
---Darlene_1 on 8/10/14


Darlene & Adetunji: May the Lord bless & keep you, & yours under the wings of His grace & mercy.

"The Lord is my shepherd, I lack nothing.
He makes me lie down in green pastures, He leads me beside quiet waters, He refreshes my soul. He guides me along the right paths for His names sake.
Even though I walk through the darkest valley,I will fear no evil,for you are with me, your rod and your staff,
they comfort me.
You prepare a table before me
in the presence of my enemies.
You anoint my head with oil, my cup overflows.
Surely your goodness and love will follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the house of the Lord
forever."
AMEN! (Psalm 23, NIV)
---Leon on 8/9/14


"I don't think lard was as bad on people as chemicals are today. A big old lard made biscuit is delicious."
---shira4368 on 8/8/14


You're probably right Shira. Those biscuits were indescribably delicious!!! I remember, as a toddler, sitting on my grandma's knees & she'd take a piece of biscuit, squish it up with her fingers in molasses. Then she'd say, "Open your mouth baby" & push it in with her fingers. Yum! :)
---Leon on 8/9/14


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Darlene_1:
Amen. God bless you more & increase your peace.
Pray for me & my country as Ebola virus had entered into Nigeria.
---Adetunji on 8/8/14


Let's all be in prayer for those in this horrible ordeal.
---kathr4453 on 8/8/14


Darlene_1:
Amen. God bless you more & increase your peace.
Pray for me & my country as Ebola virus had entered into Nigeria.
---Adetunji on 8/8/14


Adetunji thank you. I haven't heard how my Aunt is today yet. My Brother-in-law has been in a Rehab Nursing Home with Double Pneumonia,same thing as my Aunt,and he had gotten better,we thought,and nurses told him he might get to go home today. They took an XRay and he is bad sick again the Pneumonia. He is 86 years old and also one of our favorite people,very close to my husband and I,his wife just died about two or three years ago. Both of these dear ones we love so much are smokers and still didn't give it up even when they developed lung problems. All we can do is love them and pray. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 8/8/14


Darlene_1:
May the good Lord grant your requests concerning those relations of yours in Jesus' name. Amen.
---Adetunji on 8/7/14


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Since there's no Whats Up August Blog up will you all please pray for my Mom's sister,she is in the hospital with double pneumonia. She and I have always been very close but she is in Arkansas and I am in Texas and I can't go to her. She is about 85 and has always been a little bitty thing. She and her family mean the world to me and the family is driving in from Florida,and Texas to Arkansas to be with her,there are six children,pray for God's protection and strength,plus faith for them all. My Aunt is a dedicated Christian. God Bless & Thanks
---Darlene_1 on 8/7/14


Leon, Gehenna is a geographic location (valley of the son of Hinnom) therefore the metaphor is based on what happened there not some abstract idea !
---1stcliff on 8/7/14


love.jesus Happy anniversary a day late. That is wonderful news that you have been together so long God Bless.
---Darlene_1 on 8/6/14


Thanks to all of you who gave us good wishes for our wedding anniversary. Very much appreciated. God bless you. :)
---love.jesus on 8/6/14


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Congratulations! To: happy married love.jesus!
You don't hear much
this no.more.
Bless you both, I wish you
tell us, don't have to be
right away but, it interesting
to know
your recipe for
love/ successfull marriage in times, like these..

love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 8/6/14


Congratulations Love to you & wife!!! :)
---Leon on 8/6/14


Scott, if I am remembering the same movie, it goes like this. DURING the movie, people prayed all over the world for their safe return. BUT at the ending of the movie there was no thanks given to God whatsoever, nor even the mention of God. the thanks was given to men and their brilliant minds, giving themselves all the glory. I also believe if you find the actual footage of the news conference of the returned astronauts, you will see they stuck to the wording very closely to the actual....no thanks or mention f God or even thanks for any prayers. That was truly a disappointment. Now it may be another event and not the Apollo 13 event???
---kathr4453 on 8/6/14


Kathr
/Wasn't it Apollo 13???. The one that had issues and the whole world prayed, yet in the end God was not mentioned either.//

Kathr - please expand on your meaning, Was this just your concern or was this wide spread. This is one of my favorite movies, engineering nerd. The little clip you are referring to was meant to show how much the world was now involved with the story of Apollo 13 where previously they had not been.
---Scott1 on 8/6/14


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Love.jesus...that is great! Congratulations.

When I can say that is when I am 97. And if still here...I will.
---aka on 8/6/14


On a happy note, I am feeling blessed because my wife and I are celebrating our 48th wedding anniversary today. :)
---love.jesus on 8/5/14


It's likely He (Jesus) meant it was an end destination for the wicked (those who daily practice raising hell & bringing certain destruction upon themselves) Cluny.
---Leon on 8/5/14


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