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What Is Judeo-Christianity

What is Judeo-Christianity? Why isn't it called Hebrew or Israelite-Christianity?

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.."Judeo-Christianity" [isn't] in the Bible...---kathr4453 on 9/11/14

I didn't say it was, but Scripture does show it's reality the same as the word "trinity".--You parrot a trite statement, of questionable origin, as if it were the gospel.
---Leon on 9/11/14


Leon, Judeo-Christianity is not parroting with questionable origins ? And you say the word means Trinity? How can scripture show it's meaning as "the same word "when the word trinity or Judeo -Christianity is not in scripture. DO Jews believe in a trinity?

The ONLY thing I got out of this last post of yours is you have been learning NEW VOCABULARY WORDS with a log in your eye, trying to impress your imaginary audience.
---kathr4453 on 9/11/14


"...I like to think of Christians as spiritual, not religious. So you will never hear me refer to a brother or sister as being VERY RELIGIOUS."
---kathr4453 on 9/11/14


So, it's all a matter of preference for you over Bible facts? There's absolutely nothing wrong with "Judeo-Christians" being worshipful (faithful, believers, RELIGIOUS) as the Bible states in James 1:27.
---Leon on 9/11/14


Never mind Leon. Abraham was a friend of God. Enoch walked with God, but I can't find where Abraham or Enoch was said to be religious men. They were faithful men. Noah was a just man, but I can't find where he is said to be a religious man either. Cornelius was a religious man before he was saved. Devout meaning religious, but his religion didn't save him. Jesus did.

Paul was very religious while murdering Christians. So religious in fact, his religion drove him to murder. I like to think of Christians as spiritual, not religious. So you will never hear me refer to a brother or sister as being VERY RELIGIOUS.
---kathr4453 on 9/11/14


Kat: Oh, so now I'm abusive to women I can't control? I see! Hmmm!:)

There's no reasoning with an egalitarian feminist shrew like you. You really need to take a series of time outs & go to an ophthalmologist to remove those sequoia tree size planks from your eyes, i.e., Matt. 7:5.

..."Judeo-Christianity" [isn't] in the Bible...---kathr4453 on 9/11/14

I didn't say it was, but Scripture does show it's reality the same as the word "trinity".

I know the essence of Christianity. However, you reject the Bible definition of religion (faith, belief) even though James plainly tells you. You parrot a trite statement, of questionable origin, as if it were the gospel.

Nevermind! :)
---Leon on 9/11/14


I've heard that spurious quote many times over the years. It certainly didn't come from the Bible. So, where then Kat? By the way, faith & religion are synonyms.

---Leon on 9/10/14

And Leon, "Judeo-Christianity" is not in the Bible either. If perhaps you understood Christianity is a personal intimate RELATIONSHIP with the Lord, and not a set of do's and don't of man trying to reach up to God you would know the difference between RELIGION and Christianity.

---kathr4453 on 9/11/14




p.s. "historical dramatic" ~ what's that?!!! --?
---Leon on 9/10/14


You have a history of being over dramatic, over thinking, over accusing of another, overly judgemental to those who oppose or confront you or just disagree with you. You're just someone who is emotionally over the top. It's seen more in women then in men, but is often found in abusive men. Men who verbally and physically abuse women they cannot control.

But if you practice 1 Corinthians 13, you can bring your earthly fleshly emotions under control if you wanted to.

Envy and strife and extreme insecurity cause these wars within you Leon, also in James. You can't deny that is TRUE RELIGION also? Ok so try being religious then Leon.
---kathr4453 on 9/11/14


"...You thought you HAD ME....HA Kath, your wrong , James said the word RELIGION. Oh my goodness. So there..got ya, your a liar bla bla bla..." ---kathr4453 on 9/10/14

Huh?! Wow, that's bizzare! You're pathetic Kat. smh :) You think so much more highly of yourself than you ought!

When I quoted James 1:27, I was only trying to present Bible truth. Yet you mock & twist, & make it all about you? Pathetic! Well, this isn't the Kat show even though you want to make it so! :) Frankly, I don't care what you say or do because you're about nothing but self-aggrandizing foolishness anyway.

p.s. "historical dramatic" ~ what's that?!!! No doubt, more of your erroneous nonsense?
---Leon on 9/10/14


"Like I keep telling you Leon, before you answer anyone please read 1st Corinthians 13, & actually practice applying it... CHRISTIANITY is the only faith in the world that is not a RELIGION, but a Person, the Person of Jesus Christ. I did not make this up, and has been stated and quoted over and over for years and years..." ---kathr453 on 9/10/14

Oh yes, "the deep & wonderful" Kathr practices 1 Cor. 13 ALL THE TIME? Give me a break! smh :D You may consider reading Matt. 7:5 before passing judgment upon others.

I've heard that spurious quote many times over the years. It certainly didn't come from the Bible. So, where then Kat? By the way, faith & religion are synonyms.
---Leon on 9/10/14


Leon, the only skewing going on here was your historical dramatic post to me, bolded and underlined to give visual effects and emotional support.

I actually thought I answered you very nicely. James talking to those who came out of RELIGION, that is Judaism, understood what James was saying to THEM, not you a gentile. James was writing to JEWS who still thought they were under the law of RELIGION.

Leon stop reading things into my posts that only your angry hateful mind can filter muck through. You thought you HAD ME....HA Kath, your wrong , James said the word RELIGION. Oh my goodness. So there..got ya, your a liar bla bla bla.

Apply your last post to me to yourself Leon. The shoe fits you better.
---kathr4453 on 9/10/14


Like I keep telling you Leon, before you answer anyone please read 1st Corinthians 13, and actually practice applying it. Just try it once. You will be blessed.

If you have never heard this before here it is, CHRISTIANITY is the only faith in the world that is not a RELIGION, but a Person, the Person of Jesus Christ. I did not make this up, and has been stated and quoted over and over for years and years.

The RCC has turned Christianity into a religion, and there was a huge war in the 1500 over that. Religion KILLS, Christ gives LIFE.
---kathr453 on 9/10/14




You're always reading into & skewing what others post Kat. Your condescending (self-righteous) attitude stinks to high heaven & you really need to come down off of your high horse.

Out of context? I did not question the way of salvation. I did however question your assumption about Christianity not being a religion since Scripture (James 1:27) significantly disagrees with your erroneous statement. So, please try & focus on what others really have said & then stay on track. You are entitled to your opinions, but you aren't authorized to twist Bible truth.
---Leon on 9/10/14


Trav, Rome the City or Rome, the whole of the conquered nations Rome ruled over then? What about Rome today? Is the Pope a lost sheep of Israel?

Oh but did Peter accuse ROME the red headed step children of Israel of also crucifying THEIR LORD? Scripture for that please.

Trav, I find your beliefs in a false doctrine of endless genealogy's we are actually forbidden to entertain.

You worship the pride of life, lust and pride of the flesh if you believe yourself to be anything but a SINNER where NO flesh is justified whatsoever in God's eyes.

Your just a plain ol gentile heathen pagan sinner who needs salvation. Deal with it.
---kathr4453 on 9/10/14


New Covenant never says that Gentile/(Nation/Ethnos) believers are of the ten northern tribes,....
---kathr4453 on 9/10/14

You search for justification and fevered arguments.
Christ called for and looks for sheep. (12) Male... Apostles unlike yourself were not disobedient. My Lord did not fail to find what he was sent for.
Neither did Apostles or Paul. Romans is too Israel, Nations/etnos of.
Rom_11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth, but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
---Trav on 9/10/14


"PURE RELIGION & undefiled before God & the Father is this, to visit the fatherless & widows in their affliction, & to keep himself unspotted from the world." Jas. 1:27, KJV///

I don't believe anyone has a problem with this Leon. Possible overreaction on your part. But do read all of James not to take that verse out of context. No one is saved by doing Good religious works now are they? Even unbelievers who are somewhat religious care for widows and orphans. To keep oneself unspotted from the world one must be IN the Person of Jesus Christ. Crucified to the world and the world to us. No form of any 10 commandments can do that, and James never said it did either.
---kathr4453 on 9/10/14


The New Testament never says that Gentile believers are of the ten northern tribes, AKA: Ephraimites? If Paul was the apostle to the Ephraimites, why didn't he say so? He said he was an apostle of Gentiles (Rom 11:13. Rom 15:16, 1 Timothy, 2:7)

Gentile Believers in Christ are beloved of God and do not need to invent, imagine or make up a false Jewish/Hebrew/Israel lineage to be saved. For God so Loved the WORLD, ever tribe tongue nation. Rahab a Canaanite, Ruth a Moabites, Job, Noah and so many more were Gentiles who were saved prior to the cross and prior to the formation of any northern kingdom called Ephraim.

Any doctrine that excludes is a CULT!
---kathr4453 on 9/10/14


"...Christianity [isn't] a religion..."
---kathr4453 on 9/8/14


James, a JEW & half brother of our Lord & Savior Jesus Christ, & a CHRISTIAN said:

"PURE RELIGION & undefiled before God & the Father is this, to visit the fatherless & widows in their affliction, & to keep himself unspotted from the world." Jas. 1:27, KJV

Saying Christianity isn't religion (belief, faith in the Word of God) is untrue Kathr. That's a modern (popular) "irreligious" phrase, that sounds right, but is deceptively inaccurate.

"...Jesus answering [said to] them, Have faith in God..." Mk. 11:22, KJV
---Leon on 9/10/14


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...tribe of Judah was the leading tribe of the Kingdom of Judah.
Many of the Jewish leaders & prophets of the Hebrew Bible claimed membership in the tribe of Judah, e.g., Isaiah, Amos, Habakkuk, Joel, Micah, Obadiah, Zechariah, & Zephaniah, all belonged to the tribe. (Source: Wikipedia)
---Leon on 9/10/14

If one was of Judah....they were not put away/divorced of GOD as was the Nth Kingdom/House of Ten. Technically carrying the married name Israel, until Christ death. Even though they were as bad / worse than the Nth House of Ten.
Jer 3:1-14. Interesting on this.
Jer 3:11 the LORD said unto me, backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah.
---Trav on 9/10/14


As depicted by the Deuteronomists & post-exilic writers, the tribe of Judah was the leading tribe of the Kingdom of Judah. David & the royal line belonged to the tribe, & the line continued after the fall of the Kingdom of Judah in the Exilarchs. The traditional Jewish belief was that the (Jewish) Messiah would be of the Davidic line, based on the LORD's promise to David of an everlasting throne for his offspring (Isaiah 9:6-7, Jeremiah 33:15-21, 2 Samuel 7:12-16, Psalms 89:35-37).

Many of the Jewish leaders & prophets of the Hebrew Bible claimed membership in the tribe of Judah, e.g., Isaiah, Amos, Habakkuk, Joel, Micah, Obadiah, Zechariah, & Zephaniah, all belonged to the tribe. (Source: Wikipedia)
---Leon on 9/10/14


To the Jew first, meaning all 12 tribes,....
....show you know what it means to be IN Christ Jesus then I'll listen.
---kathr4453 on 9/9/14

\\ONLY ulterior motive I have is to preach.. (kthr)\\

Verified twice by yourself and your scripture witnesses, Khr 1:0, Ktr 1:00 thru 000.

You won't listen to Apostles/Prophets or Christ...reply scriptures are for any/sheep that do honor authorized "men", authorized by GOD.
Heb 8:8...And Judah...
Eze37:18-27 when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
Eze 37:28 the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore.
---Trav on 9/10/14


// TODAY God is preaching to ALL SINNERS EVERYWHERE and has made no distinction between anyone's HOUSE. ALL have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. ALL get saved the exact same way...THROUGH JESUS DEATH AND RESURRECTION!!!//

Kathr,
another wonderful answer you gave. So very true. All come short of the glory of God, individuals from every tribe or nation. All need to be save the same exact way, through faith in Jesus Christ works and His resurrection.
---Luke on 9/10/14


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Trav, rev also note the 12 Apostles as well. But the picture of the New Jerusalem has nothing to do with a time when anyone will sit on any throne Judging any 12 tribes. No one in the NEW Creation of the New heaven and earth will be judging over anyone.

The preaching of the CROSS is for now. To the Jew first, meaning all 12 tribes, no one excluded, and then to the Gentiles.

Your ulterior motive is to take people away from "TODAY is the day of Salvation".

Your answers to my questions answer nothing. Just a bunch of this and that trying to make yourself look wise. The ONLY wisdom there is is IN Christ Jesus. When you can show you know what it means to be IN Christ Jesus then I'll listen.
---kathr4453 on 9/9/14


Well, your ulterior motives are visible. ----- TRAV//

The ONLY ulterior motive I have is to preach Christ Crucified,which is called the Gospel, to the "Jew" first and then to the Gentile. And I don't care what tribe one comes from.

Your's however is to obstruct the preaching of the CROSS nit picking about who belongs to this house or that house thinking you show yourself wise, you show yourself only a fool. TODAY God is preaching to ALL SINNERS EVERYWHERE and has made no distinction between anyone's HOUSE. ALL have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God. ALL get saved the exact same way...THROUGH JESUS DEATH AND RESURRECTION!!!
---kathr4453 on 9/9/14


Trav, Your Ignorance is astounding. And your attitude as a wanna-be Jew is even more astounding.
---kathr4453 on 9/9/14

You astound easily.
About myself? Just a sheepdog, chasing hoodoo's.
Scripture head pictures below.
The Lord sorts/sifts his sheep, so you shouldn't concern yourself.

Mat_19:28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
Rev 21:12 And had a wall great and high, had twelve gates, at the gates twelve angels, names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel:
---Trav on 9/9/14


So when Paul says "to the Jew first and then to the Gentile", OVER AND OVER, you are saying Paul means to Judah, Benjamin and Levi only? So please show scripture where Peter Paul James or any of them first QUALIFY what tribe one comes from before being given the Gospel.

Trav, you can keep your condescending snide remarks to yourself. Your Ignorance is astounding. And your attitude as a wanna-be Jew is even more astounding. So tell us Travelosity, are you of the House of Judah or of the house of Israel? or neither?
---kathr4453 on 9/9/14


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Certainly. I just mean that in English, German, French or most western European languages, we took Judah and made that into the name of the belief (the sons of Abraham). Other languages, including Greek and Russian, used Hebrew, which I think is the whole of the nation.
---Peter on 9/8/14

Good stuff Peter. Thanks for an extra step with me on this. You realized I wasn't sure exactly what you meant. Hebrews, probably more correct.
What bothers me is most denoms teach "Judah", jews as representing all Israel. This is never stated by any prophet, apostle or our Lord. By multiple witnessed fact it is the opposite. The best one Heb 8:8-10. The separation of a whole house plus the word "and" jumps off the page.
---Trav on 9/9/14



To say a Jew is only from the House of Judah is total ignorance.
---kathr4453 on 9/9/14

Well, your ulterior motives are visible. Your teaching in vain, in your lack of actual scriptural witnesses. What scripture you use, you've modified to meet "your" doctrine of confusion or combustion.

While Israel is all related, Judah stands for the House of Judah. Heb 8:8....and Judah.
Eze 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
---Trav on 9/9/14


Zechariah 8:13 And it shall come to pass, that as ye were a curse among the heathen, O house of Judah, and house of Israel, so will I save you, and ye shall be a blessing: fear not, but let your hands be strong.


When using the term, HOUSE OF, we should know scripture is defining these after the dispersion, YET in no way is saying there is no such thing anymore and the 12 individual tribes of Israel. To say a Jew is only from the House of Judah is total ignorance.

Peter and James letters is to the 12 tribes.

Remember Peter was an Apostle TO THE JEWS. Meaning all 12 tribes, as we see in the beginning of his epistles. Nowhere is Peter instructed to go only to Judah, Benjamin and Levi.
---kathr4453 on 9/9/14


Galatians 2:14-16

14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

15 We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

Above Paul is saying Jews BY NATURE, not by House of....

16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
---kathr453 on 9/9/14


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Christian traditions is not Christianity. Christianity is A person! the person of Jesus Christ. Christianity is not a religion, but a person, the person of Jesus Christ. It's not called Judeo-Christianity, but Judeo-Christian Ethics.

Ethics never saved a fly. It's legalism to the core.

Even IF this country was 100% submitted to the Judeo-Christian ETHIC, and all were forced to live under extreme Religious rules, will not save one soul. Even Israel keeping the law to the tee could never save their soul. The Law points to sin. It doesn't CURE SIN. If Israel couldn't keep it, what makes you think anyone can? Israel couldn't keep it, because it's impossible to keep. That is why Jesus came.....first showing man is utterly sinful.
---kathr4453 on 9/8/14


Trav, 'Judah, however translated is one of twelve sons of Jacob/Israel in any Bible'

Certainly. I just mean that in English, German, French or most western European languages, we took Judah and made that into the name of the belief (the sons of Abraham). Other languages, including Greek and Russian, used Hebrew, which I think is the whole of the nation.

I am not able to work out where the Hindi and Chinese terms come from, as the words, even transliterated, do not seem like either something from Judah or Hebrew!
---Peter on 9/8/14


"Paul calls himself a Jew, and is from the tribe of Benjamin."
---kathr4453 on 9/8/14


According to the Bible, the kingdom of Judah resulted from the break-up of the United kingdom of Israel (1020 to about 930 BCE) after the northern tribes refused to accept Rehoboam, the son of Solomon, as their king. At first, only the tribe of Judah remained loyal to the house of David, but soon after the tribe of Benjamin joined Judah.

So, by confederation of the two families & more than likely intermarriages between them, Benjamin did become an integral part of the Kingdom of Judah (Jews).
---Leon on 9/8/14


Prominent champions of the term [Judeo-Christian] also identify it with historic American religious traditions.

"The concept of Judeo-Christian values does not rest on a claim that the two religions are identical. It promotes the concept there is a shared intersection of values based on the Hebrew Bible ("Torah"), brought into our culture by the founding generations of Biblically oriented Protestants, that is fundamental to American history, cultural identity, and institutions." (The Jewish Conservative columnist Dennis Prager ~ Source: Wikipedia)
---Leon on 9/8/14


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Paul calls himself a Jew, and is from the tribe of Benjamin.
---kathr4453 on 9/8/14


There is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity, however there have been many movements over the past few hundred years using this term that has been redefined over the years. If perhaps you want to know what the most recent definition is, and where it began, it began around the 1990's or so around the culture wars/ Pat Buchanan, the start of the Moral Majority etc. With the Moral Majority anyone could belong, Mormons etc, who held to the morals of the 10 commandments.
---kathr4453 on 9/8/14


Trav on 9/4/14 'Jew is a late A.D. name for "Judah". Judah is one 12 sons.'

Trav, please remember that other languages may not use the same word. The Germanic and Latin groups of language used derivations from Judah, but the Slavic languages use a derivation from 'Hebrew', which does not pick on one tribe
---Peter on 9/4/14

This is interesting. It is becoming a Global world. I would not cause a misunderstanding knowingly.
Judah, however translated is one of twelve sons of Jacob/Israel in any Bible I"m familiar with. You help keep it straight for the other countries you mention if you would. Thanks.
---Trav on 9/5/14


Hello trav Aka

That is a good point. If you consider the term to be in error then you state that this is not the way you believe the term should be used.

So to clarify a person should define their terms. State why they believe it should or should not have a meaning.

Many times I have heard or read people miss-using a term and others then not understanding or thinking the person was saying something else.

agape to all.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/5/14


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Peter:

You wrote: the Slavic languages use a derivation from 'Hebrew', which does not pick on one tribe

This is only true in about half of them. It is based on "hebrew" in Latvian, Macednonian, Serbian, Ukrainian and Russian, but on "judah" in Czech, Croatian, Estonian, Lithuanian, Polish, Slovak and Slovenian.
---StrongAxe on 9/5/14


I have not heard the term Juedo-Christianity. Nevertheless, I have heard the term Judeo-Christian roots, which simply defines and describes the relationship between Messianic Jews and the Gentiles who has accepted Jesus as the Messiah and thus, were grafted into the promises of God. During the time of Jesus, those who followed Christ, were called "followers of the way". The term "Christian" was coined much later.
---Candida_Chatfield on 9/4/14


Trav on 9/4/14 'Jew is a late A.D. name for "Judah". Judah is one 12 sons.'

Trav, please remember that other languages may not use the same word. The Germanic and Latin groups of language used derivations from Judah, but the Slavic languages use a derivation from 'Hebrew', which does not pick on one tribe
---Peter on 9/4/14


//Some here are trying to change what is just a descriptive term into a argument.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/3/14

if the descriptive term is, in fact, erroneous, then how do we discuss the question?
---aka on 9/4/14

Exactly. Thou. Shall. Not. Kill.
Each word can be researched. Each individual should do his own, for his own understanding.
We see, "preacher,teacher" defenders, who cannot or will not discuss, or show/proof by witnesses, scriptural or historical fact.
Does sneering, wagging the head or whining convince? Instead it is always a sign/mark.
2Ti_2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
---Trav on 9/4/14


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//Some here are trying to change what is just a descriptive term into a argument.

The term Jew means all the Children of Abraham and Issac. Not just some of them.// ---Samuelbb7 on 9/3/14

if the descriptive term is, in fact, erroneous, then how do we discuss the question?

our assumption of what others are saying actually can lead us to death if you agree that Jesus uses a different meaning to the phrase, "thou shalt not kill."

if we cannot fine tune terminology, then how can we answer the question?
---aka on 9/4/14


Some here are trying to change what is just a descriptive term into a argument.

The term Jew means all the Children of Abraham and Issac. Not just some of them.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/3/14

No argument...please, an alarm. You innocently believe both of the above statements. I did too in my youth. We are taught this. Only those concerned that it is possibly incorrect care enough to research it. I can point, (poorly I'm sure), but,by pointing have done my job. The individual must do his part.
Jew is a late A.D. name for "Judah". Judah is one 12 sons. Judah is not a name/title encompassing all of Israel...ever. Research....

Act_13:24 When John had first preached...repentance to all the people of Israel.
---Trav on 9/4/14


Thanks 'Axe. I'll have to go to school on that for a bit. :)
---Leon on 9/3/14


Leon:

The Hebrew word for "Hebrew" is "`ivri", from the root "`vr", to pass, pass over, cross, etc., and can sometimes also refer to "past". It refers to the people who "passed over" the Jordan - i.e. the Israelites. In English, "Hebrew" and "Hebron" seem closely related, while in Hebrew, they are completely different.
---StrongAxe on 9/3/14


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Luke & Sam: Very good guys!

The Hebrew word "Hebron" is derived from the Hebrew word for "friend" (haver), as describes the Patriarch Abraham who was the friend of God. (Jas. 2:23) God the Father planned for Jesus to descend thru "His friend" Abraham... & Jacob/Israel, thru Judah...King David, etc. The Lion of Judah, in Rev. 5:5, represents Jesus.

To preface Christianity with the word "Hebrew" or "Israelite" isn't incorrect since Abraham, having lived in Hebron, was a Hebrew. His grandson Jacob (renamed Israel) fathered Judah (father of the Jews). So, specifically, Jesus (the Christ) came into the world thru the tribe of Judah, hence the term Judeo-Christianity.
---Leon on 9/3/14


Thank you Luke for your great points. Some here are trying to change what is just a descriptive term into a argument.

The term Jew means all the Children of Abraham and Issac. Not just some of them.


Genesis 32:28

And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.

So all Children of Jacob by birth are Israel.


Romans 9:6

Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

But to be true Israel you have to follow GOD.

Agape.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/3/14


Trav,
I do not believe anyone has to throw stones at someone else for just answering the way they do. Your answer that Jesus only came for the lost sheep of Israel, has nothing whatsoever to do with the blog question. The question was asking what is Judeo-Christianity? If you gave a response to that, I have not seen it.
The use of the term "Judeo-Christian or Judeo-Christianity" was use for the purpose of stating that Jews and Christians are under the same gospel. It was also use to indicate when a Jew converted to Christianity. The term has only been used for close to two hundred years by biblical scholars. Instead of arguing why don't you just give your opinion on what the term means?
---Luke on 9/3/14


Travgrrr: I was going to say what's your problem? You don't have a dog in this fight, do you? Then you showed me you are the dog (Cluny's dog) in the fight!
---Leon on 9/2/14

Ha, what an interesting observation. You might be exactly right. Scared a juvenile wolf in sheep's clothing away this time!
I'll (ruff) be the best (ruff)Sheep Dog in the flock.....ruff, ruff.

Act_20:29 For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

There is no such thing as an attack Sheep....
---Trav on 9/2/14


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Travgrrr: I was going to say what's your problem? You don't have a dog in this fight, do you? Then you showed me you are the dog (Cluny's dog) in the fight!
---Leon on 9/2/14


Cluny:
You puffed up so authoritatively: "Pharasaism, Talmud". I was sure you could easily enlighten me in 125 words or less. Apparently not!
---Leon on 8/26/14

It will take the Lord and your willingness to be enlightened. Cluny give you all you need to research in two words. Don't be lazy, research the Talmud. The jews do. They honor the Talmud higher than scripture.
You honor them! In ignorance to be sure. Cluny would, that you were not, through your effort rather than his. He only pointed....you growled.
Pro_16:7 When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.
---Trav on 9/2/14


Cluny:
You puffed up so authoritatively: "Pharasaism, Talmud". I was sure you could easily enlighten me in 125 words or less. Apparently not!
---Leon on 8/26/14

It will take the Lord and your willingness to be enlightened. Cluny give you all you need to research in two words. Don't be lazy, research info about the Talmud. The jews do. They honor the Talmud higher than scripture for the most part.
You honor them! In ignorance to be sure. Cluny would, that you were not, through your effort rather than his. He only pointed....you growled.
Pro_16:7 When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.
---Trav on 9/2/14


Dear Aka
I just said that Jews wrote it. Which is true.
If I am wrong say so and show why.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/29/14

I'll say you are putting "judean", in front of Christ or Christianity. Technically, we owe GOD not judeans. Who if you research scripture Christ was not sent for.
Christ command was to go seek the Nth House of Ten representing Jacob/Israels offspring, the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel.
He never said, Go in the name of "judeo"......
This name is not authorized. By what command of Christ of GOD could one defend it?

Matt 10:6 and Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
2Ti 2:14 Of these things, ...
---Trav on 9/2/14


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Dear Aka
Yes JESUS CHRIST is the Alpha and Omega and in the Bible from the beginning.
JESUS taught he is JESUS and is GOD. A minor argument about an Old Testament title of JESUS had nothing to do with my comment.
Yes the HOLY BIBLE is inspired by the HOLY SPIRIT. I just said that Jews wrote it. Which is true. GOD called the Jewish people to be his special messengers to the world.
JESUS is essential to the entire Bible. He is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world pointed to by all the sacrifices in the Old Testament.
Hebrews 6:20
Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
This is from the Bible.
If I am wrong say so and show why.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/29/14


"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion." (Pv. 18:2)

well, said. just look in a mirror next time you are saying that.

you set yourself up on this sight as a voice of God and a teacher of the Gospel.

(Rom 1:22) Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

If i had one guess, it would under the order of one who promotes Zionism.
---aka on 8/28/14


"Leon, all you repeated is," Leon, Leon, Leon!" and engaged in priesthood from Melchizedek in brackets [EGW] and not Melchizedek."
---aka on 8/28/14

"A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion." (Pv. 18:2)

"Do you see a man who is hasty in his words? There is more hope for a fool than for him." (Pv. 29:20)
---Leon on 8/28/14


//Christianity is born from the soil and truth of the Judaism of the Old Testament.//--Jesus Christianity was from the Alpha to the Omega

//We follow a Jewish Messiah who taught from the Old Testament.//--where did Jesus teach that he is the earthly appearance of the Archangel that you call the Christ?

//We...have our Bible written mostly by Jews who tell us what is truth.//--We have our Bible inspired by the Holy Spirit who Jesus said will teach us all truth.

//No Judaism no Christianity. They are linked." //--No Jesus (not Michael), no Christianity. Jesus is crucial.

Leon, all you repeated is," Leon, Leon, Leon!" and engaged in priesthood from Melchizedek in brackets [EGW] and not Melchizedek.
---aka on 8/28/14


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"Christianity is born from the soil and truth of the Judaism of the Old Testament.

We follow a Jewish Messiah who taught from the Old Testament. We listen and have our Bible written mostly by Jews who tell us what is truth.

Hebrews 5:10

Called of God an high priest after the order of [Melchizedek].

No Judaism no Christianity. They are linked." ---Samuelbb7 on 8/26/14


I repeat, thanks Sam since you're the only respondent here who has a real clue as to what the blog questions ask.
---Leon on 8/28/14


Leon...this was referring t the previous verses i you have any interest in context.

however...what I find funny is that you ask a question for discussion, then use that verse against any discussion.

You remind me of the professor in the movie,"God's not Dead."
---aka on 8/27/14


"Keep reminding Gods people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words, it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth"
2 Timothy 2:14-15 (NIV)
---Leon on 8/27/14


\\Post-Christian Judaism? Pleeze! Hope you're having fun playing Goobledygook.
---Leon on 8/27/14\\

Do you call all terms you've not heard before gobbeldy-gook?

Post-Christian Judaism simply means Judaism as it developed after the Resurrection, Ascension, Pentecost, and the rise of Christianity.

Some scholars see the present religion of Judaism as an organic development from the OT. Others see it as a radical break.

Both sides agree that the destruction of the Temple and the second exile cause major dislocations and changes.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/27/14


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Thanks Sam! ...Melchizedek :)
---Leon on 8/26/14
Be careful of buzz words. they will get you ever time.
---aka on 8/27/14


//What is Judeo-Christianity?// The early Christians like Paul called it Judaizing.
.... The Messiah for all should be emphasized and not the country from which Jesus "originated". (Altough sharing the same piece of land that the UN amassed in 1948, the Isreal from which Jesus originated is not the same Israel.)

Why not Hebrew-Christianity? Because we are one, and the true Hebrews understand that even though they are first, they consider themselves last like Paul, the Jew of Jews and the chief sinner.
---aka on 8/27/14

You have a gift. You say more in fewer words than anyone here.
Mat 19:30 But many..... that are first shall be last, and the last shall be first.
---Travrr on 8/27/14


Aaaaaaa, yeah Cluny! You & Rod Serling. Impressed not, I am! Post-Christian Judaism? Pleeze! Hope you're having fun playing Goobledygook.
---Leon on 8/27/14


//What is Judeo-Christianity?// The early Christians like Paul called it Judaizing.

//Why isn't it called Hebrew or Israelite-Christianity?//

Some call it Messianic Christianity, which is a little more accurate if they do not engage in Judaizing.

Why not Israelite Christianity? The Messiah for all should be emphasized and not the country from which Jesus "originated". (Altough sharing the same piece of land that the UN amassed in 1948, the Isreal from which Jesus originated is not the same Israel.)

Why not Hebrew-Christianity? Because we are one, and the true Hebrews understand that even though they are first, they consider themselves last like Paul, the Jew of Jews and the chief sinner.
---aka on 8/27/14


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Modern Judaism has little to do with the Bible and more to do with Pharasaism, as contained in the Talmud.
---Cluny on 8/26/14

You are exactly correct. It is easily confirmed today by surfing for Talmudic studies and teaching.

We have been foolishly and ignorantly taught by the churches that Judah is Israel. Judah is 1/12th of Israel. Most of the Apostles are thought to be Benjamites. The Bible was recorded and written by Hebrews and Israel. Judah not being put away as was the Nth House of Ten carried the married name and corrupted the traditions up until Christ death. The New Covenant with the House of Israel "and" Judah absolved the putting away/divorce house of ten.
Heb 8:8-10 / Jer 31:31-33.
---Trav on 8/27/14


The Babylonian Talmud (consider the name in light of Rev. 17) is the authoritative compilation of the teachings of the Scribes and Pharisees who rejected Jesus.

It is this corpus, rather than the Tanakh, that receives the most attention in Yeshivas.

I've already pointed out how the religion outlined in the Tanakh differs from post-Christian Judaism.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/27/14


Cluny: Would you mind translating that double-speak into English? Don't put it out there if you don't want to get it knocked off. :)

You puffed up so authoritatively: "Pharasaism, Talmud". I was sure you could easily enlighten me in 125 words or less. Apparently not!
---Leon on 8/26/14


Thanks Sam! ...Melchizedek :)
---Leon on 8/26/14


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Cliff: Who are the Jews?
---Leon on 8/26/14


Christianity is born from the soil and truth of the Judaism of the Old Testament.

We follow a Jewish Messiah who taught from the Old Testament. We listen and have our Bible written mostly by Jews who tell us what is truth.


Hebrews 5:10

Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

No Judaism no Christianity. They are linked.
---Samuelbb7 on 8/26/14


\\What "little" does Judaism have to do with the Bible Cluny?
---Leon on 8/26/14\\

You can do your own research on this, but the religion of the OT is based on the belief in a Messiah and the offering of sacrifices.

No Jew does the second, and most Jews don't really believe in the first.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/26/14


Leon, Judaism is Jews,collectively !
---1stcliff on 8/26/14


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What "little" does Judaism have to do with the Bible Cluny?
---Leon on 8/26/14


Modern Judaism has little to do with the Bible and more to do with Pharasaism, as contained in the Talmud.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/26/14


Cliff: What is Judaism?
---Leon on 8/26/14


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