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If the Lords disciples were from Galilee, and their native language was Aramaic, in what language did they write the books of the Bible?

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\\If a brother disagrees with you about something you are teaching, the argument should be between them and the Truth found in the Holy Bible.\\

Greek being the lingua franca of the eastern Roman Empire is a matter of history and mentioned nowhere in the Bible. Consequently, it's not a matter of doctrine.

Besides, YOU are the one who started to disagree with ME first, and therefore by your own standards, should have contacted ME privately.

And you NEVER explained why you keep saying "universal language" when other people and I keep saying "lingua franca".

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/10/14


Cluny
If a brother disagrees with you about something you are teaching, the argument should be between them and the Truth found in the Holy Bible.

Today we can not show someone the Truth in scripture, because with the modern Greek dictionary, they can make the Bible say what they want it to say. Or better said, change the Truth into a lie.
---David on 9/9/14

Your first comment is true. Two or more scriptural witnesses takes us out of the debate. There are hundreds of scriptural witnesses, for most topics.
Second comment, is nullified because of these witnesses.
True....men attempt to mould scriptures....without the original languages we would not be able to see intent. These attempts become apparent.
---Trav on 9/9/14


Samuel, loving and caring for others should be our attitude always.
If a person does not know the God of the Bible, we have to assume they are not in the Truth.
Of course we should love others, and be concern for the sick, the homeless and so on.
That should be our attitude always.
---Luke on 9/8/14

Well said Luke. Do not have to assume, here. Have the experience/truth of your brutha-ly,
attitude.
1Co_7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

Mal_1:2 I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
---Trav on 9/9/14


Cluny
If a brother disagrees with you about something you are teaching, the argument should be between them and the Truth found in the Holy Bible.

Today we can not show someone the Truth written in scripture, because with the modern Greek dictionary, they can make the Bible say what they want it to say. Or better said, change the Truth into a lie.

When I say "Universal", it is not directed at what you or anyone else has said on this blog. It is directed at the majority of folks, who use the Greek bible to circumvent what "Expert" translators have already translated.

If they didn't believe Greek was the universal language, they wouldn't allow their teachers to do this.
---David on 9/9/14


David, you comment:

Many people believe the disciples spoke and wrote in Greek, and Greek was the universal language. And I am trying to show, using biblical evidence, this was probably not the case.

What you have said is that not everyone spoke Greek, which is true. The less educated Hebrews spoke Aramaic only, while Latin was less used, but it was the 'official' language of the Roman Empire - so it had to be used.

All three languages had a good reason to be there, but not because Greek was not the international language. Latin was the official language, Aramaic was the local language, but Greek, which was neither, was the international language, so they added it in.
---Peter on 9/8/14




David, why are you saying "universal language" when everyone else here is saying "lingua franca"? As I keep saying, they mean two different things.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/8/14


Universal language does not mean the same thing as lingua franca, OK?

Cluny
I never said it did. I wasn't addressing your post when I used the word universal. If I had been addressing you, I would have addressed it to you.
---David on 9/8/14


//But there are times when people are more concerned with doctrine than with loving and caring for others.//

Samuel, loving and caring for others should be our attitude always. Discussing doctrines is very important for someone salvation. They need to know the Truth, and then if the Spirit convicts them, they will commit their lives to Christ. If a person does not know the God of the Bible, we have to assume they are not in the Truth. And in order to discuss the nature, Character and attributes of God we have to discuss doctrine. Of course we should love others, and be concern for the sick, the homeless and so on. That should be our attitude always.
---Luke on 9/8/14


Luke in answer to your 9/6/14 post. Yes believing in the trinity is important and yes Muslims do teach lies.

But there are times when people are more concerned with doctrine than with loving and caring for others.

At the school I used to work at a number of the Muslim children used to always ask me for help. Since I would take extra time with them. I did not argue I just acted kind and caring toward them.

They knew I was a Christian. It is up to the HOLY SPIRIT to convince people of the truth. All we can do is be kind loving and share the word.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/7/14


David:

I currently live in the American southwest. Even though English is the lingua franca in the United States, many signs here are written in English and Spanish, because there are many Mexican immigrants here (both legal and illegal) who do no speak English, or do not speak it well. I have seen similar bilingual signs in other areas with large populations of one ethnicity or other.

Even though the educated in Palestine would have been familiar with Greek and Latin, many of the poor may not have been (if they were literate at all).
---StrongAxe on 9/7/14




\\Many people believe the disciples spoke and wrote in Greek, and Greek was the universal language.\\

Universal language does not mean the same thing as lingua franca, OK?

And the translators of the KJV were not paid for their labor. Did you know that?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/7/14


Cluny
I'm still trying to figure out your post. I understand Greek, Latin, and Hebrew are three different languages.

My point was, I believe the inscription was written in Greek, Latin and Hebrew, so that everyone who saw it, could read it.
Which shows evidence, that everyone didn't speak Greek.

Many people believe the disciples spoke and wrote in Greek, and Greek was the universal language. And I am trying to show, using biblical evidence, this was probably not the case.

Why do I do this?
To take the modern Greek dictionary out of the hands of novices, who try to change the KJV to say what they want it to say, which was translated by professional translators.
---David on 9/7/14


Rita H just a little information. The Gift of tongues is one of the Gifts of the Spirit and must be interpreted by someone with that Gift or the one who speaks in the Gift of the Spirit with Tongues can pray to interpret. In Acts the Gift of the HG and tongues is a result of the HG Baptism,the HG Baptism is the Gift here. God Bless Darlene 1
---Darlene_1 on 9/6/14


I'm surprised you didn't figure this out.

Cluny
There are many things of which others have knowledge, and of which I am ignorant. Fortunately, God has humbled me enough so that see my ignorance, so I can learn from others.

I come to this site to teach as well as to be taught.
---David on 9/6/14


\\If Greek was the universal language, why was this inscription written in three different languages?
---David on 9/6/14
\\

I never said "universal language." I said, "lingua franca," which is not the same thing.

Latin: the official language of the Empire.
Greek: the lingua franca of the east.
Hebrew: the literary language of the province.

I'm surprised you didn't figure this out.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/6/14


David, God gives His gifts to whom HE chooses. We do not all have the same gifts. 1 Corinthians 12:29-30 says "Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing? Do all speak in tongues? Do all interpret?"

The answer is "NO". We have the gift which God chose to give us and which we are to use for His Glory. I don't have the gift of tongues either, three of my children do have the gift.
---Rita_H on 9/6/14


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//The Trinity verses oneness is not choking on gnats. But love is more important than just saying certain words.

But there is too much Theological hair splitting on unimportant issues.//

Samuel,
You are saying it is not important for believers to know the real God in three Persons. The Oneness Pentecostals are heretics, they do not believe the Holy Spirit is God. Only those from the Christians faith believe God in three Persons. It is important. Pentecostals do believe in the Trinity, Oneness Pentecostals do not. Cluny's question was legit.
The devil knows there is a God, but believing and trusting in the real God of the Bible are two different things. The Muslims, Jehovah witnesses are also wrong. Agape
---Luke on 9/6/14


(Luke 23:38)
And a superscription also was written over Him in letters of Greek and Latin and Hebrew: This Is The King Of The Jews.


Here's something to consider, If Greek was the universal language, why was this inscription written in three different languages?
---David on 9/6/14


Cluny:

You said: If you know God, you know ABOUT God as well.

A young child knows his parents, but not about them. A profiler knows much about a criminal, including what he has for breakfast, without having met him (i.e. knows about him without knowing him). Sheep are stupid animals. They know their shepherd, but little about him.

Criteria for eternal life:

John 17:3: Know God and Jesus
Matthew 19:17-18, Mark 10:17-19: Keep commandments
Matthew 25:31-46: Feed hungry, etc.
Luke 10:27: Love God and neighbor
John 3:15: Believe on Son of Man
John 6:25: Eat flesh, drink blood
John 10:27-18: Sheep
John 12:25: Hate own life

None say we must know ABOUT God.
---StrongAxe on 9/5/14


Cluny pardon me while I interject here,knowing about God and knowing God are two different things. This is what I base that on,my two year old Great Grand daughter knows about God but is much too young to really know Him. I knew about Jesus all my life but it was only when I was eleven that I went to the old fashioned altar and received Christ as my Savior and that was when I began my journey to not only know about Him but to have a working relationship with therefore to really know God. To really know God is to know God's Word,His will,and His ways which comes with Bible study,prayer and praise of God. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/5/14


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\\Knowing God and knowing ABOUT God are two different things.\\

If you know God, you know ABOUT God as well.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/5/14


Cluny would you please share how God really is. Where is the scripture that tells us people will not have eternal life for not knowing Him as He really is. Sorry but I'm not sure what you mean. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/5/14


David you're welcome, it's my blessing,I understand why for some its hard to believe, there's so many Denominations who have taught against Him. He's the Gift,Jesus didn't want to leave us comfortless,if I remember right,Jesus prayed God would sent us another Comforter,and the Gift of the Holy Ghost with tongues is who He sent. Here the Gift isn't tongues but the HG and the Gift of Tongues is what is used in Church and Interpreted,just some information. Jimmy Swaggart possibly didn't receive the HG while he was sinning because the HG won't come into an unclean Temple but,Bible,the Gifts and Calling of God are without repentance. I hope you run into "a Darlene"whose talk matches her walk too. Thank you. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/5/14


The Trinity verses oneness is not choking on gnats. But love is more important than just saying certain words.

But there is too much Theological hair splitting on unimportant issues.

Thank you.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/5/14


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Cluny:

You said: Except this is not choking on gnats.

When Jesus taught, he spoke about substantive things - how we should live our lives - and rarely about theological hair-splitting.

Jesus Christ Himself said that eternal life is knowing God and Himself--and that is as They really are and not as some imagine Them to be.

Knowing God and knowing ABOUT God are two different things. A small child knows his parents, and can tell you their favorite foods, color, TV show, etc. - even if he doesn't know their last name, occupation, or blood type.
---StrongAxe on 9/5/14


Darlene
Thanks for sharing. It's such a foreign teaching for those of us who do not speak in tongues. I find it hard to believe, even though it's right there in the Bible. For this reason, I do not discount the gift of tongues just because I have not experienced it.

I have known of people, like Jimmy Swaggart, who claim to have this gift. I guess people have doubts about this gift, because of men like Swaggart. His talk doesn't exactly match his walk, and it's hard to believe God would give this gift to someone who lives as he does.

I hope one day that I run into a Darlene, whose talk matches her walk.
God bless.
---David on 9/5/14


\\Perhaps his attitude is "Stop wasting time choking on gnats, and go do the things I actually told you to do!".\\

Except this is not choking on gnats.

Jesus Christ Himself said that eternal life is knowing God and Himself--and that is as They really are and not as some imagine Them to be.

The inverse is also true: If you do NOT know God as He really is, you don't have eternal life.

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/4/14


David: 'but I have never heard anyone interpret those tongues.,

Possibly, and I do not have the gift of interpreting tongues.

Having heard a number of people speaking in tongues (I do not), I have come to remember a set of phrases or perhaps words used again and again.

It may be that all the people I've heard speaking in tongues were (perhaps) speaking the language we will all speak in Heaven?

Just an idea
---Peter on 9/4/14


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Cluny:

You asked: Some people who claim the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and tongues are Trinitarian.

Others who claim them deny the Trinity and are Oneness/Sabellian Modalists.

Do they BOTH have the same Holy Spirit if they say opposite things?


It matters if the opposite things are important, but not otherwise. Perhaps God considers this particular theological question to be of much less importance than trinitarian and oneness apologists themselves do. Perhaps his attitude is "Stop wasting time choking on gnats, and go do the things I actually told you to do!".
---StrongAxe on 9/4/14


Cluny each person walks in the light they have and if it doesn't match others light or understanding that's alright because we begin our Christian walk as Babes in Christ. We don't come to Christ with full knowledge of the Bible, or understanding of the Word. We grow in God as we study and live for God. The light we begin with isn't the light we have when our life comes to an end. To grow in God we must have a receiving mind and open heart,sensitive to God's leading as He has grown us up in the Spirit as we live and obey. One of my prayers has been teach me oh God your truth. We must be teachable or we will never grow in God or walk with Him in a brighter light,greater understanding of the Word and God's way and will for His Children.God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/4/14


Cluny, why do you expect me to explain anything? I was relating something that happened to someone else.

b.t.w the lady to whom that happened died just last week and her funeral in next Wednesday.

I'm now logging off for 24 hours as already explained in another blog.
---Rita_H on 9/4/14


"Leon, The disciples did not speak foreign languages... those in attendance "HEARD" the message in their own language! Get it straight!"
---1stcliff on 9/1/14


Cliff: I missed something you said earlier. Please read Acts 2. Not only did Peter speak in tongues, but so did ALL the disciples who were assembled in the Upper Room. Hope that's straight enough for you. :)
---Leon on 9/4/14


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ritah,

thanks for sharing a story about God's effective use of a persons tongue and not the deceptive use of many peoples tongues.
---aka on 9/4/14


\\ Rita H it is a blessing to hear this experience since so many want to explain away tongues and all the Holy Ghost blessings from God. \\

Some people who claim the Baptism of the Holy Spirit and tongues are Trinitarian.

Others who claim them deny the Trinity and are Oneness/Sabellian Modalists.

Do they BOTH have the same Holy Spirit if they say opposite things?

Please explain.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/4/14


Rita H it is a blessing to hear this experience since so many want to explain away tongues and all the Holy Ghost blessings from God. It often breaks my heart to know people reject this wonderful Gift of the HG from God with all the empowerment to serve Him in obedience because I suspect they are afraid of whats unknown to them. People don't realize you don't have to be in a church to receive this Gift,its ours for the asking and it can happen at home alone. After all who more do we need than God. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/4/14


Some years ago a relative of mine began speaking in tongues - privately - because she did know what she was saying. Soon after, her friend was given the gift of interpreting what she said so this 'duo' used tongues and interpretation in church. Some were very sceptical.

Some years later a visiting missionary, staying at my relative's house, heard her praying in tongues in her own room. He understood every word and when she left the room he told her what she had prayed. The reason he knew was because she was praying in HIS native tongue.

The friend who did not understand this language was interpreting correctly and this stopped the scepticism in the church.
---Rita_H on 9/4/14


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David you really want to know,I will be glad to share,yes I have been blessed by God to be used by Him with Gifts to Interpret,Tongues,Prophesy,Singing Prophesy,Word of Knowledge and Written Word of Knowledge. Yes I've heard tongues and those interpreted In a lifetime of going to church. One must pray and ask God to allow us to interpret. We as humans can't do it is what I meant since it is the Holy Ghost who gives us utterance. I can't give specifics on what God said but it is always to comfort,reassure,lead and sometimes I have heard warnings given by God. The main thing to remember in all the Gifts of the Spirit they will always line up with the Bible and God's will for His people. Surrender and obedience are necessary to receive. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/4/14


//When you find that these commentaries, from people who study the Scriptures don't agree, which one do you believe. Incidentally, I believe you are capable of studying scripture for yourself,//

Michael e,
almost all human beings are capable of reading the Bible. Even some that are blind. Also, there is people who do not agree even when they read the Bible. In fact people do not agree on almost every thing not just commentaries. But since no person can retain every bit of information having commentaries helps you get to the topic you are studying much faster. God has gifted many of His children to help others in studying commentaries from the word of God. That was just for your information. Agape
---Luke on 9/4/14


no one who obeys God and gives a message in church or prays at home in tongues can interpret tongues that comes from God

Darlene
Please don't feel as if I am trying to trap you. I truly want to understand this gift.

In (1 Corinthians 14:13), Paul leads us to believe those who speak in tongues can interpret what they say. And I was wondering if you had both gifts.
I have heard people speak in tongues, but I have never heard anyone interpret those tongues.
Have you ever heard someone interpret tongues?
If you have, what did the sprit say that edified the church?
---David on 9/4/14


David to get rid of your misinformation,no one who obeys God and gives a message in church or prays at home in tongues can interpret tongues that comes from God by the Holy Ghost who empowers His people for service but some things He reserves for Himself not a man. Sorry but no I don't know,we are to pray we can interpret but at home I don't have to. Romans 8:26 In the same way,the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We don't know how to pray as we ought. But the Spirit himself makes intercession for us with deep groaning's which can't be uttered. Besides its my personal,very private prayers and I would not share those with anyone.David if you really want to know you can pray and ask God for the Gift of the HG with tongues and praise Him.God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/3/14


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\\Cluny"that's the point I'm trying to get across to Darlene",sorry but isn't it a waste of time and space to try to show me there isn't a gift to read and write when that's your view not mine. I never believed it to begin with.\\

So you're saying your "gift of tongues" does not include the ability to read or write Biblical languages.

That's what I thought to start with.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/3/14


Cluny Maybe this will help you understand the point I was trying to make when I said if God wanted men to read and write like that it would have been simple for Him to do it. My Step Grandpa couldn't read or write but he loved the Lord with all his heart and God gave him the ability to read the Bible and he still couldn't read anything else. Nothing is impossible with God,He is Supernatural,I understand how finite minds can't grasp how powerful God is,but nothing is too big or too small for Him. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/3/14


Darlene
Thank you for your answer. Another question which comes to mind from your answer. It appears, by your answer, that you can interpret what your spirit is saying when you speak in tongues. If this is the case, can you share with those of us without this gift what the spirt may have said to God?
---David on 9/3/14


David I'll be glad to reply. 1 Corinthians 14:2,3,5,27 says when we speak in a tongue we speak to God not men. In the light of that,at home I speak to God only and no one needs to know what I say. In church or public meetings prophecy is better for the listeners for its in their language and they can understand. I would like everyone of you to speak in tongues,but I would rather have you prophesy. He who prophesies is greater than one who speaks in tongues,unless he interprets,so that the church may be edified.27. If anyone speaks in a tongue,two-or at the most three-,one at a time,and someone must interpret. God made church tongues more orderly with interpretation and people don't have to have many different languages spoken at once.God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/3/14


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//it was in the language the people he was writing to could understand.//
Acts 22:1-2 records Paul speaking in Hebrew to his kinsmen in the flesh.
Who do you think his kinsmen in the flesh are?
When you find that these commentaries, from people who study the Scriptures don't agree, which one do you believe. Incidentally, I believe you are capable of studying scripture for yourself,
---michael_e on 9/3/14


There are over 5,000 copies of the New Testament that have been preserved from history.

They were all in Greek.

A few latter were found in Aramaic.
---Samuelbb7 on 9/3/14


Dear Michael e,
there is no book in the new Testament where the writer tells us in what language he was speaking. That is to be understood that when he wrote something down, it was in the language the people he was writing to could understand. The only way we can find out what language they wrote, or what language they used is by going to commentaries, from people who study the Scriptures and what language was being used at the time the writers wrote. Even you cannot give us Scripture which tells us what language they used. Any information we want is found by studying the culture at the time, and what those people spoke at the time.
---Luke on 9/3/14


Darlene
I have always been curious as to the gift of tongues. Could you answer this question for me?

When you speak in tongues, do many different languages understand what you said, as they did on the day of Pentecost?
---David on 9/3/14


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David, we will keep looking. There may be something we have missed.
---learner2 on 9/2/14


Cluny"that's the point I'm trying to get across to Darlene",sorry but isn't it a waste of time and space to try to show me there isn't a gift to read and write when that's your view not mine. I never believed it to begin with. I know exactly what God said the Gifts of the Spirit are and how they are used. God gives me poems and songs in my mind and then I write them in English,one was a song for a woman dying with cancer and when I sung it in church to her she was very touched. She sent a message to me by her husband and he gave it to me at her funeral,a simple one "continue". Strongaxe thanks for that,its very valid and true. Leon you're welcome but I must say thanks to you for telling me that its a blessing.God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/2/14


//Because Hebrew had stopped being the vernacular spoken language since the first Exile
The "Hebrew" in Acts is actually Judean/Palestinian Aramaic..//
Thanks for the tidbit from your commentary, but I'll stick with the Bible unless you have some scripture to back your statement
---michael_e on 9/2/14


\\Why wouldn't the 12 speak in Hebrew?
---michael_e on 9/2/14\\

Because Hebrew had stopped being the vernacular spoken language since the first Exile.

The "Hebrew" in Acts is actually Judean/Palestinian Aramaic.

**Nowhere in the New Testament does the "gift of tongues" mention ability to read and write.
---StrongAxe on 9/2/14**

That's the point I'm trying to get across to Darlene.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/2/14


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Acts 22:1-2 records Paul speaking in Hebrew to his kinsmen in the flesh, while Romans (probably ignorant of Hebrew) stood by. Pauls words in Hebrew were translated into Greek and then into English. Why wouldn't the 12 speak in Hebrew?
---michael_e on 9/2/14


Peter:

You said: But I do not think we have any old manuscripts in anything by Greek

We only have translations from Greek into something else.


There are several existing Greek New Testament manuscripts. There are no existing earlier Aramaic manuscripts (although some theorize that Matthew, Mark, and Luke as we know them today were all based on a no-longer-existent earlier Aramaic gospel known as Q (from the German "Quelle", meaning "source")).


Cluny:

You wrote: And how many languages, especially Biblical ones, do you read and write, Darlene?

Nowhere in the New Testament does the "gift of tongues" mention ability to read and write.
---StrongAxe on 9/2/14


David - Can you give me some examples of self inclusion?-learner2

Learner2
I searched a little this morning where I thought there were examples, but came up empty. Conclusion? I can find no proof of authorship.
Thanks for the lesson.

---David on 9/2/14


Cluny/Leon, Scripture says "they heard"the message in their own tongue. That was the miracle, Peter speaking Aramaic and attendants "hearing" the message in their own language.
Think about it ,how many times would he have to give the same message if he spoke each time in a different tongue ??
---1stcliff on 9/2/14


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I think what Cluny has in mind is Mountanism.
---learner2 on 9/1/14


Darlene: Your "tongue" always treats me with dignity & respect (the love of Jesus), & brings out the best in me. For the most part, I'm not accustomed to that kind of treatment on CN blogs. But, your warm fuzzies always bring me much joy. Thank you for graciously shedding the love of Christ abroad even when we don't agree 100%. That's when it counts & means the most. God bless! :)
---Leon on 9/1/14


\\Cluny if you had received the Gift of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with Tongues you wouldn't ask such a foolish question.\\

If you knew anything about my spiritual background and history, YOU would not be the one making foolish statements about me.

But to get back to my original question, I assume then that the Holy Spirit has never given you the gift to read and write in any language, especially Biblical ones.

Is this what you are saying?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/1/14


"Leon, The disciples didn't speak foreign languages...those in attendance "HEARD" the message in their own language! Get it straight!"
---1stcliff on 9/1/14


Cliffie: If what you say is true then, "God didn't make little green apples~And it don't rain in Indianapolis in the summertime~And there's no such thing as Doctor Seuss Or Disneyland, & Mother Goose, no nursery rhyme..." :D

How could they have HEARD their language if it weren't SPOKEN Cliff? Selah (pause) ~ think about it!
---Leon on 9/1/14


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My wife does tongues and I do not. But it is not a problem for us.
---learner2 on 9/1/14


Leon thank you for being kind about what I shared. Maybe you don't believe it or understand how its possible but you answered like a Christian should,not putting down another Christian. I know you know this but its what you said you would do Matthew 7:7 Ask,and it shall be given,seek and you will find,knock and it shall be opened unto you. God Bless. Cluny if you had received the Gift of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with Tongues you wouldn't ask such a foolish question. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/1/14


\\Leon, The disciples did not speak foreign languages... those in attendance "HEARD" the message in their own language !
Get it straight !
---1stcliff on 9/1/14\\

So, the gift of tongues was really a gift of ears.

Is that what you're saying, 1stcliff?

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/1/14


Well, all the old books of the NT are in Greek, but that does not necessarily indicate that the disciples first wrote in Greek.

They might have started (most of them) in Aramaic, though Luke I suspect would have had either Greek or Latin as his first language.

But I do not think we have any old manuscripts in anything by Greek

We only have translations from Greek into something else.
---Peter on 9/1/14


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David - Can you give me some examples of self inclusion?
---learner2 on 9/1/14


Leon, The disciples did not speak foreign languages... those in attendance "HEARD" the message in their own language !
Get it straight !
---1stcliff on 9/1/14


Thanks Darlene. I'll have to meditate on the Word, pray & ask the Lord about that. :)
---Leon on 9/1/14


\\I received the Gift of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with Tongues and they have never left me in 53 years\\

And how many languages, especially Biblical ones, do you read and write, Darlene?

Besides English, I mean.

Glory to Jesus Christ!!
---Cluny on 9/1/14


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Leon my Brother,I can tell you first hand that the Apostles could speak in Tongues for the rest of their lives,living and working for God. I received the Gift of the Baptism of the Holy Ghost with Tongues and they have never left me in 53 years,I was 22 and I'm 75 now,that is because of two reasons it is the Holy Ghost giving utterance to them from the servant of God and God doesn't take away the Gifts He gives His people. Could they write in Greek,why not,if God empowered them to speak in Tongues surely He had the power,if He pleased to have them write that way too. Remember God is always the God of the impossible. God has given me poems or songs with tunes that is why I know what He can and will do with our surrender to Him. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/1/14


Greek had been the lingua franca of the Eastern Mediterranean since the time of Alexander the Great.

EVERYONE had to speak Greek just to get along, regardless of the language spoken at home.

Some early Christian writers have proposed that Matthew's Gospel was originally written in Hebrew. I don't think that Aramaic was a literary language at that time.

It's not a matter I spend sleepless hours over.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/1/14


Just because they spoke in other tongues on the day of Pentecost doesn't mean they all were thereafter able to do so. It certainly doesn't mean they were able to "write" in the languages they spoke. --Leon
Leon
And that's my point. If the disciples needed the power of God, to speak in tongues, it's hard to believe they would have written the Gospels in Greek, which for them, was a foreign tongue.

Does the Bible say who actually wrote each of the four Gospels?
Learner2
You make a good point, but with so much first hand knowledge and self inclusion in the writing, I believe it had to be those credited with these books.
---David on 9/1/14


Good to have you! Learner2 welcome
so happy see somebody NEW!!
Elena here, been here bout 6 yrs.
Come anytime, and I'll leave the light on for you! Be blessed. .
Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 9/1/14


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I am new here, happy to be with you all.

Does the Bible say who actually wrote each of the four Gospels? Is it possible that Matthew and John actually didn't write the Gospels attributed to them. Doesn't the extant knowledge about the Gospels indicate they were written in Greek?
---learner2 on 8/31/14


David: Because it wasn't normative for the disciples to speak in the languages of the Greeks, etc., people who heard them. They as well as those who heard them were likely all surprised. It was by the power of God that the disciples were able to miraculously speak in other tongues (languages) on that occasion.

Just because they spoke in other tongues on the day of Pentecost doesn't mean they all were thereafter able to do so. It certainly doesn't mean they were able to "write" in the languages they spoke.
---Leon on 8/31/14


Before you answer, consider who the disciples spoke to, in tongues, on the day of Pentecost.(Acts 9-11)

If you study the languages of some of these folks in attendance, you will discover some of them spoke Greek.

If the disciples spoke Greek, why would those in attendance who spoke Greek, have been amazed to understand the disciples in their own language?
---David on 8/31/14


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