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ISIS Angels Revelation

Rev. 9 talks about four angels--presumably fallen--imprisoned near the Euphrates, but released towards the beginning of the Tribulation.

Considering that the Ephrates flows right through the middle of mahometan land, and ISIS, are we seeing this fulfilled today?

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//Her birthday is this month she'll love ya for saying it.
Wasn't clear in that she is the verses Prv 31:10-31.// trav

nobody's fault. rather fortuitous.

since i have known (1.25 years) and been married (.3333 years), i can cite an example for every verse from 10-31 of my gift from God. v. 23 has great significance since i have been pretty much invisible to other for 40.5 years. weird feeling...so v. 28 everyday.
---aka on 10/31/14


Aye...Proverbs 31 ... (My wife 10-31)
---Trav
Wish Mrs. Trav a happy birthday from pack aka.
---aka on 10/31/14

Yip, yip. Will do. Her birthday is this month she'll love ya for saying it.
Wasn't clear in that she is the verses Prv 31:10-31. My fault it wasn't clear.

Don't know what she did bad enough to deserve me but, the Lord truly extended and blessed my life through her.
---Trav on 10/31/14


Aye...Proverbs 31 ... (My wife 10-31)

---Trav

Wish Mrs. Trav a happy birthday from pack aka.
---aka on 10/31/14


because the men wouldn't be.---Trav on 10/29/14

there have been other times in history this was true.
Presidentress of the US - leader of the spiritually emasculated.
---aka on 10/29/14

Aye...Proverbs 31 great contrast scripture you reminded us of. (My wife 10-31)

Who gets Nibbles and Bits o-Jezebel...the first pup there.

1Ki 21:23 And of Jezebel also spake the LORD, saying, The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel.

Rev_2:20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
---Trav on 10/29/14


In other words, unlike Joan of Ark whom you belittle, you've never led men into battle and won.
---Cluny on 10/29/14

In the same words. More men than she ever has.
I run at my enemies. I didn't belittle dead Joan. She is the truth as posted. My post only emasculated you, not her because of your un-orthodox platform. You defensive hero is a transgendering schizophrenic woman.
The rebuking is, effeminate men prefer/vote women leaders over strong men. (identity thing we'd surmise)
I've led my family to victory over your effeminate mindset.
Schizo "Joan never, led or fought in battle or killed an opponent. Instead, she accompanied men as an inspirational mascot" As per history.
---Trav on 10/29/14




\\You never mentioned platoons. My 1st platoon is my family, we are victorious in all our battles.
\\

In other words, unlike Joan of Ark whom you belittle, you've never led men into battle and won.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/29/14


because the men wouldn't be.---Trav on 10/29/14

there have been other times in history this was true.

Deborah - Leader of the spiritually rebelious.

(side bar: supposed commander-in-chief, Barak (ironic), he would not go to war without her.)

Joan - leader of the spiritually dead.

Presidentress of the US - leader of the spiritually emasculated.

Deborah - picture of prov 31 woman with back to wall.

Joan - at least, patriotic with back to wall.

Presidentress of the US - strange woman in prov and not interested in the states rights moving the wall whenever convenient.
---aka on 10/29/14


The only Cluny on CH is I and I am a man.
---Cluny on 10/28/14

Apologize, shouldn't have to ask, you farmed the reasons to wonder.
Ran straight at you with my answer.
You never mentioned platoons. My 1st platoon is my family, we are victorious in all our battles.
Which, back to your dodge and veering, has not been the point anyway. Point is you justifying unbiblical, joanie woman becoming a man because the men wouldn't be. Which, as your defense, outs you.

Isa_3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
---Trav on 10/29/14


\\ Some female named Cluny on CN. \\

The only Cluny on CH is I and I am a man.

How many platoons have you led into victorious battle? I asked you that question once before and you dodged it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/28/14


\\Joanie is not my hero. She is yours.\\

Were did you get that idea?
---Cluny on 10/26/14

Some female named Cluny on CN. She continually goes on and on about Joanie. Is her non-scriptural witness/meow for changing the Bible standards for Men and Women in leadership today.
Women should lead Women. Men do not know this area.
She is suggesting women should demonstrate to men how to be leaders. Her demo model (Joanie) was burned for acting like a man. So she's back to square one.

Anyway...think Cluny (her cats name),is female, having never said.
---Trav on 10/27/14




\\Joanie is not my hero. She is yours.\\

Were did you get that idea?

\\Unlike joanie, I don't cross dress, or behave as a woman.\\

Joan was executed as a witch PRECISELY because she didn't behave as a woman was perceived to properly behave.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/26/14


Joan of Arc led armies into battle and won them.
How many battles have you won?
---Cluny on 10/24/14

There is only one to win, It's not over yet.
Joanie is not my hero. She is yours.
Unlike joanie, I don't cross dress, or behave as a woman. So won that battle.
Won't call evil good. Win daily.
Won't call good, evil. See the above.
Won't kneel before a wolf or "kelebs" (dogs). Daily win.

1Co_6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
---Trav on 10/25/14


Joan of Arc led armies into battle and won them.

How many battles have you won?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/24/14


1. What do social mores of 5000 years ago have to do with today's practices.

2. I guess you've never heard of Joan of Arc.

3. Adam's male leadership didn't do us much good, did it?
---Cluny on 10/23/14

1. Really? Will forward this on to a higher power. You can't be reached here, your server is down.

2. Ole (documented)schizo Joanie. Fine hero ya got there. Wore pants, cut hair, tried to be a man. Absence of real frenchi-fried men syndrome. (Still today).
I will stay with David, Jacob/Israel, Moses, Abraham, Jesus, and his 12 representatives. (Who win in end)

3. Eve? You two are remarkably alike. Deceived.
1Ti_2:14 Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
---Trav on 10/24/14


What do social mores of 5000 years ago have to do with today's practices.

I guess you've never heard of Joan of Arc.

Or for that matter, St. Tamara, Queen of Georgia, who has a lot in common with her.

And Adam's male leadership didn't do us much good, did it?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/23/14


\\Christian men should be men and leaders.\\
This is nowhere taught in the Bible.
---Cluny on 10/23/14

Mouthiest child begs correction, for everything is new to them, so you seem.
1. Adam was first, the head, leader, a man not a shim. From Kings, to captains, Apostles to Judges. Men. Men who were men. Not men who are women. Or women who are men. As you would promote, for your false doctrines.

Deu_29:10 Ye stand this day all of you before the LORD your God, your captains of your tribes, your elders, and your officers, with all the men of Israel,
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
---Trav on 10/23/14


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\\Christian men should be men and leaders.\\

This is nowhere taught in the Bible.

When we are told to pray for the government and civil authorities, it's not so these offices will be filled with Christian men.

It's so that the government will leave Christians alone "that we may live quiet lives in all godliness".

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/23/14


Just as I thought, Trav.
... a sexist who doesn't want a woman as president, either.
---Cluny on 10/22/14

Ha. Divert asap and accuse as a child does, caught by the spotlight and rebuked. See the real "c-cat" post now, what you didn't reply exposed you.
Christian men should be men and leaders. Christian men, Christian women recognize abominations. So yes, could not, nor would not vote for or with you, public or otherwise.
You've created yourself a modern Un-orthodox GOD. Your next god you'll call La presi-dente.
1Co_6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, adulterers, effeminate, abusers of themselves with mankind,
---Trav on 10/23/14


Just as I thought, Trav.

You have no idea what you mean either, unless you're a racist who doesn't like a black man as president, or a sexist who doesn't want a woman as president, either.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/22/14


//..is the reason you don't like President Obama's policies because you just don't like the man?// Leon

very common and baseless question. it's like asking, "does this dress may me look fat?" no. it's is your fat that makes you look fat.
---aka on 10/19/14

Man, i re-read this an got a good laugh...again.
It is the fat that makes one look fat, not the dress's fault.

(Tell Leon, i just don't like theman, period. His policies/platforms/pro-ponents reveal the (fat)man)

Isa_5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil, that put darkness for light, light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, sweet for bitter!
---Trav on 10/22/14


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I have no idea what you are talking about, Trav.

Do you have any idea yourself?

If so, please explain.
---Cluny on 10/21/14

Realized by your post, you had no idea...in several areas. Being politically(lukewarm)correct, is lukewarm open minded partners with trends of today.
Explains obscure one liner replies, seldom if ever scripture. Safe little place.
Distasteful for men not to be men. More especially orthomen. Its man up, not nam up.
If i've misunderstood and you are a woman, forgive for rebuking you as a man, didn't know. Should have asked.
Rev_3:16 So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
---Trav on 10/22/14


\\ By testimony, you are partners of problems, not of solutions.\\

I have no idea what you are talking about, Trav.

Do you have any idea yourself?

If so, please explain.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/21/14


OTOH, I'm not sorry that the color barrier to the White House was broken.
Some day a woman will sit in the Oval Office, but I pray it's neither Hilary nor Palin.
---Cluny on 10/18/14

By testimony, you are partners of problems, not of solutions.
Non Christians could plead ignorance. Intellectual orthocats cannot. Has your cat passed or run off?

Isa_3:12 As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.
Jer 5:29 Shall I not visit for these things? saith the LORD: shall not my soul be avenged on such a nation as this?
---Trav on 10/21/14


Am I to assume that Queen Isabella was in her right mind by doing what she did?
---learner2 on 10/20/14

Columbus setting sail passed the last boatload of them. So I've heard. Would like to have blogged with Isabella.

Rom_11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
2Co_6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
---Trav on 10/21/14


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Cluny:

I may be confusing two things, but from Wikipedia article on "Alhambra Decree":

The punishment for any Jew who did not convert or leave by the deadline was death without trial.

So, I WAS right: conversion, exile, or death.

But in reparations: in 2014, the government of Spain passed a law allowing dual citizenship to Jewish descendants who apply, in order to "compensate for shameful events in the countrys past."[3] Thus, Sephardic Jews who are descendants of those Jews expelled from Spain due to the Alhambra Decree can "become Spaniards without leaving home or giving up their present nationality."
---StrongAxe on 10/21/14


\\I thought that 1/3 of the Jews were killed, 1/3 were expelled, and 1/3 were forced to convert. Was I misinformed?\\

Yep.

However, one official in Tsarist times said that should happen.

Maybe you are attributing this to Spain?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/20/14


Am I to assume that Queen Isabella was in her right mind by doing what she did? In any case, she did not have the technology or means to commit mass murder on a Nazi scale.
---learner2 on 10/20/14


learner2:

You said: Hitler perceived Jewish plots too and so felt he had no choice but to get rid of them. Was he justified?

Hitler was paranoid, and saw plots everywhere, even when they didn't exist. Acting on such feelings is never justified.

Besides, Hitler had therories of racial superiority. He sought the extermination of any groups he thought were inferior - Jews, Gypsies, Poles, and many others. This had nothing to do with plots.


Cluny:

You said: Death was not one of the options.

I thought that 1/3 of the Jews were killed, 1/3 were expelled, and 1/3 were forced to convert. Was I misinformed?
---StrongAxe on 10/20/14


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\\Hitler perceived Jewish plots too and so felt he had no choice but to get rid of them. Was he justified?
---learner2 on 10/20/14\\

Isabella did not kill Jews for being Jews. Hiter did.

Can you tell the difference?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/20/14


Hitler perceived Jewish plots too and so felt he had no choice but to get rid of them. Was he justified?
---learner2 on 10/20/14


\\In 1492, Spain did a very Muslim-like thing to Jews - move, convert, or die.\\

Death was not one of the options.

The reason Jews were expelled is that so many were involved in plots against the crown. They were expelled from Spain for political reasons, NOT religious.

Isabella herself told the Inquisition that Jews who were always publicly such were to be left alone.

And since you were raised RC, you should know that plenary indulgences were NOT as you have described here.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/20/14


Nor has he been caught praying 5 times a day towards Mecca.
---Cluny on 10/17/14

Interesting that you said,"been caught".
hussy, DID say The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer. And in his book , "I will stand with them (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction. B Hussein.... page 261 of his book, Audacity of Hope"
And stood with james cones doctrines for 20+ years. Doctrines that are vehemently anti-white.

Psa 120:1 A Song of degrees. In my distress I cried unto the LORD, and he heard me.
Psa 120:2 Deliver my soul, O LORD, from lying lips, and from a deceitful tongue.
---Trav on 10/20/14


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Cluny:

In 1492, Spain did a very Muslim-like thing to Jews - move, convert, or die. And we all know how Conquistadores treated the New World, with the Pope's blessing.

The Crusades were the Christian European response to mahometan jihadism.

Crusaders were given plenary indulgences, freeing them from responsibilities the rest of us endure. Having an army of soldiers coming through town taking whatever they need without feeling the need to pay for it would certainly fill the merchants with great cheer.

Puritan New England--Pilgrim's pride and all that--did the same thing, only they were Protestants,

Proving my point - Christians of ANY type committing atrocities in God's name, giving God a bad name.
---StrongAxe on 10/20/14


"But Christianity has repented and gotten over most of that."
StrongAxe on 10/19/14

Huge blanket statement. When did that happen?

You said, "You're comparing apples and oranges". I did not compare anything, you did.
---Nana on 10/20/14


\\One could infer, from Crusades, Conquistadores, Inquisitions, etc., that Christians as a group were greedy, power-hungry, murdering villains - with divine sanction for such crimes, so they must worship an evil god.\\

This, of course, is nonsense.

The Crusades were the Christian European response to mahometan jihadism.

The Inquisition left alone those who had always been known as Jews or mahometans. The object of its investigations were those pretending to be Christians, but secretly practicing other religions, sorcery, or things they don't like to mention on these blogs.

Puritan New England--Pilgrim's pride and all that--did the same thing, only they were Protestants,

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/19/14


\\By the way, is the reason you don't like President Obama's policies because you just don't like the man?
---Leon on 10/19/14\\

I was favorably impressed with Obama at first.

However, I disagree with his stand on abortion.

I don't appreciate his telling lies about how Planned Barrenhood screens women for breast cancer. They don't. They merely send enquirers elsewhere.

Though the Affordable Care Act has some good things in it, such as not being rejected for pre-existing conditions, I don't like the way he and his cohorts rammed it through Congress.

Shall I go on?

I would also vote for neither Hilary nor Sarah.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/19/14


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Nana:

One could infer, from Crusades, Conquistadores, Inquisitions, etc., that Christians as a group were greedy, power-hungry, murdering villains - with divine sanction for such crimes, so they must worship an evil god. And one could not be faulted for such a conclusion. This is the kind of thing that Paul wrote of: "It is because of YOU that my name is blasphemed among the nations".

But Christianity has repented and gotten over most of that. Also, Jesus never taught any of it, so any Christian who does it is disobeying Jesus.

Contrast with Islamic groups TODAY who send children in as suicide bombers, and Mohammed who commanded his followers to slay infidels. You're comparing apples and oranges.
---StrongAxe on 10/19/14


before B.O. was President
State Senator: 1997 - 2004
U.S. Senator: 2005 - 2008

Sarah Palin
city council: 1992 - 1996
city mayor: 1996 - 2002
Governor of AK: 2006 - 2009

Experience hardly seems relevant these days.

Past performance does not seem to be considered these days. So, H.C. should fine.

//..is the reason you don't like President Obama's policies because you just don't like the man?// Leon

very common and baseless question. it's like asking, "does this dress may me look fat?" no. it's is your fat that makes you look fat.

it's his policies why people don't like his policies.
---aka on 10/19/14


"Yes. Apparently, by watching ISIS, it's only appropriate to murder children after they are born."
---StrongAxe on 10/18/14

What can be infered by watching 'christianity' through the ages?
---Nana on 10/19/14


Cluny: The next POTUS will be Hilary Clinton. It will never, ever be the extremely unqualified Sarah Palin ~ thank God! Likewise, there are a vast number of women in America just as qualified as Hilary to be POTUS.

By the way, is the reason you don't like President Obama's policies because you just don't like the man?
---Leon on 10/19/14


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I don't like Obama or his policies.

But it goes too far to call him Antichrist, as some Christian sites do. He just doesn't have the spiritual significance to be that.

OTOH, I'm not sorry that the color barrier to the White House was broken.

Some day a woman will sit in the Oval Office, but I pray it's neither Hilary nor Palin.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/18/14


Cluny:

You wrote: Obama drinks alcohol, eats pork, and supports abortion, all of which are forbidden in mahometanism.

Yes. Apparently, by watching ISIS, it's only appropriate to murder children after they are born.
---StrongAxe on 10/18/14


Cluny wrote: "Obama drinks alcohol, eats pork, and supports abortion, all of which are forbidden in mahometanism. Nor has he been caught praying 5 times a day towards Mecca."

So, are you part of his inner circle?
---Steveng on 10/18/14


cluny,

it's ok. we are all limited in communication using this format.

despite his behavior, i am not THE antichrist proponent of our current president.
---aka on 10/18/14


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\\the suppositions are yours.
---aka on 10/\\

I'm glad I misunderstood you, and I apologize for doing so.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/18/14


//Are you saying that Obama is a mahometan, aka?// cluny

no. i said, "makes you wonder if isis has not already found a "charismatic" leader that they don't have to feed?"

the suppositions are yours.
---aka on 10/17/14


Are you saying that Obama is a mahometan, aka?

Fie!

Obama drinks alcohol, eats pork, and supports abortion, all of which are forbidden in mahometanism.

Nor has he been caught praying 5 times a day towards Mecca.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/17/14


makes you wonder if isis has not already found a "charismatic" leader that they don't have to feed?
---aka on 10/16/14

That was good enough to use in conversation today.

This below, still applies to Ishmael's boys.

Gen_16:12 And he will be a wild man, his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him, and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.
---Trav on 10/17/14


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//Man, haven't laughed during the 2 doses of this national sickness.//

makes you wonder if isis has not already found a "charismatic" leader that they don't have to feed?
---aka on 10/16/14


ineffectiveness and misallocation...therein lies the similarity...thus the irony and the humor for some.
---aka on 9/21/14

Man, haven't laughed during the 2 doses of this national sickness.
King Davids prayer, Psalms 109.
The judges we've allowed to be elected. The abominations they / we allow and legalize may end the blessings of this nation in our lifetime, or our children's. It is as if they intend it so.

Isa 9:16 For the leaders of this people cause them to err, they that are led of them are destroyed.
---Trav on 10/16/14


funny. what 'merica deems as charismatic.
---aka on 10/16/14


\\the one thing ISIS does not have is a charsmatic leader, at least not yet.
---Scott1 on 10/15/14\\

Its self-proclaimed calif would disagree with you.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/15/14


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the one thing ISIS does not have is a charsmatic leader, at least not yet.
---Scott1 on 10/15/14


Apparently you've not heard that Obama has sent 3000 American troops to help with the Ebola epidemic.

Just how this will help I don't know.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/20/14

ineffectiveness and misallocation...therein lies the similarity...thus the irony and the humor for some.
---aka on 9/21/14


Cluny:

You wrote: Rev. 9 talks about four angels--presumably fallen--imprisoned near the Euphrates, but released towards the beginning of the Tribulation.

Considering that the Ephrates flows right through the middle of mahometan land, and ISIS, are we seeing this fulfilled today?


Unless ISIS dries up the Euphrates, allowing 200 million troops to cross over dry-shod, they aren't it.

I read many years ago in some end-time prophecy book that there is a hydroelectric dam at the head of the Euphrates - which could be shut off to cut off all water to that river. Also, China once boasted the ability to field an army of 200 million.

So, technically, it COULD happen, although I see no evidence of it at present.
---StrongAxe on 9/20/14


\\hey both have nothing to worry about with obama in office.
---aka on 9/19/14\\

Apparently you've not heard that Obama has sent 3000 American troops to help with the Ebola epidemic.

Just how this will help I don't know.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/20/14


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aka, I doubt that either of them would have anything to worry about no matter who was in office... unless maybe it was Harry Truman...
---learner2 on 9/19/14


what does ebola and isis have in common...?

....

they both have nothing to worry about with obama in office.
---aka on 9/19/14


//I believe, for us to understand the Bible, we must first understand who God is, then who we are, who's we are, where we are & by leading of the Holy Spirit discover where we need to be.//

Leon,
You are totally correct. Those who disciple new believers should start with who God is first. Every passage that speaks for God and His character and attributes. That God never changes. He is the same yesterday, today and forever. Once they know the God of the Bible, then they should learn all there is to know about sinful man. Our theology should be God centered, not man centered.
---Luke on 9/16/14


When reading Revelation, it appears it will be much like the time God's wrath came over Egypt, and uses the same like curses.

Horrible things have occurred in the Middle East for years, Thousands even, but Jack Van whatever wasn't around then with newspaper in hand misleading folks into believing this verse and that verse is being fulfilled.

Many thought too during the dark ages prophecy was being fulfilled and the RCC was the anti-Christ. Every generation believes themselves as living in those end times described in Revelation.
---kathr4453 on 9/14/14


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If reading Revelation 9 carefully from beginning to end, we see it is GOD who is in control of these events, loosing these fallen angels of death for a specific period of time......for what purpose? The end of the chapter tells us what the porpoise..(.woops..silly auto fill again)..PURPOSE is. REPENT. So the ones doing the killing of 1/3 of the world, are to repent, or those being killed? So, if God is going to release this time of death on earth, America is not going to be sent to thwart God's purposes to stop them. Nor will America stay God's hand here or anywhere else in God's purpose.

So as we see the summary in all these chapters, says REPENT.
---kathr453 on 9/14/14


Leon, yes, everything you list, plus come, has always been, but Jesus made it a point that during the last days these things will increase in frequency and violence. These last days will be like no other time in history.
---Steveng on 9/13/14


"...ironically, my name is joseph. a few years before you started posting, i was "joseph". then, i realized that names here are not unique. there was already a Joseph, joseph, Josef, so i went with variations of aka_joseph. then, i was tired of typing that before i discovered quick-fill. so, it became aka. your name backward is noel. Thanks to the coming, life, and resurrection of Our Lord. this is a difficult forum." Peace to you.---aka on 9/12/14

Yes aka, there's a lot in our names whether we be persons in or outside of the Bible. Indeed, this is a difficult "forum". :) (Ps. 23:4) Peace to you too!
---Leon on 9/13/14


Steveng: Like King Solomon concluded, "What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again, there is nothing new under the sun." (Ecc. 1:9)

The Bible people are us & we are them. The Bible speaks of ancient events which commonly exist in the world today, i.e., murder, WARS, slavery (manipulation, intimidation & domination), famine, plagues (diseases), mind altering substances, natural/supernatural disasters & all other kinds of human suffering & misery.

We're the Bible people & they are us. I believe, for us to understand the Bible, we must first understand who God is, then who we are, who's we are, where we are & by leading of the Holy Spirit discover where we need to be.
---Leon on 9/13/14


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leon,

ironically, my name is joseph.

a few years before you started posting, i was "joseph". then, i realized that names here are not unique. there was already a Joseph, joseph, Josef, so i went with variations of aka_joseph. then, i was tired of typing that before i discovered quick-fill. so, it became aka.

your name backward is noel. Thanks to the coming, life, and resurrection of Our Lord. this is a difficult forum. Peace to you.
---aka on 9/12/14


In order to understand Revelation 9 (or any part of the bible) one must think like the writers at that time in history. In today's world, having many over educated people, having words/language that have many definitions, it is impossible to know for sure of the bible writer's meaning. Christian bookstores are filled with authors who claim they know the secrets to the bible. The only person that can help in understanding biblical writers is the Holy Spirit. Unfortunately most people are only guessing what biblical writers mean using such words as "may," "might," "can," "could," and "presumably."
---Steveng on 9/13/14


Aka: Thanks for tolerating my feeble attempt at being funny & for sharing that amazing insight into your life. Wow, that was heavy! I'm glad you survived that horrible ordeal with your older brothers. That was kind of a "Joseph" experience! (Romans 8:28)

I also misread a lot on these blogs & have to go back & re-read what was said. Be blessed brother! :)
---Leon on 9/12/14


I believe Revelation is the wrath of God, not wrath of satan. And actually before this wrath of God begins, there will be 3 1/2 years of peace...then all heck breaks out....why, because it is God's wrath towards Israel for making a covenant of hell with this peacemaker that goes against God's known will and covenant with Israel.

Christians are saved from THIS WRATH to come.
---kathr4453 on 9/12/14


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//I hope that wasn't because when you saw my name, Leon, you immediately saw "red". Peace! :)//

the only red that i try to see is the red letters when jesus speaks.

leon, i love you as a brother. when i was young, my older brothers used to hang me over piers of crab infested waters until i said whatever they wanted me to. i learned eventually, not to see red while hanging upside down and staying silent...just waiting for my Father to come.

i really did misread what you had said because my error and not your name. no matter who is posting and holding us upside down, the Wind blows and hopefully we sway in the Wind and be still.
---aka on 9/12/14


"ok...i misread your post..."---aka on 9/11/14

I hope that wasn't because when you saw my name, Leon, you immediately saw "red". Peace! :)

Four angels in Revelation 9? Well, ISIS/ISIL currently doesn't have any way of killing 1/3 of the world's population. But, if we let them get inside of us (our U.S., European & the rest of the free world homeland borders) they could do paramount guerrilla-like destruction that just may well culminate in deaths totaling in those numbers. Pray to God they don't get their paws on nuclear weapons. That very well could be a "jihad fire" as described in Rev. 9.

Bottom line, we need to get them before...
---Leon on 9/12/14


ok...i misread your post.

you agree there is no differentiation, so there really is no way to say that they ARE one of the four angels in rev 9.
---aka on 9/11/14


">>>What differentiates this jihadist group near the Euphrates different from past jihadist groups from near the Euphrates other than its kitchy, catchy name?"
---aka on 9/2/14


?!!! You asked a question, I answered it. ?!!!
---Leon on 9/11/14


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//Okay aka, if you really wanna know// leon

know what?
---aka on 9/11/14


Okay aka, if you really wanna know! There's no real differentiation between any of those Middle-earth (Mid'-east) extremist cuckoo's.

They're all paranoid delusional (demon possessed). Subsequently, they're friendless because, well, they're extremely unfriendly (barbaric).:) At the root of their warped psychosis they believe: The enemy of my enemy is my enemy who is also the enemy of his enemy & my other enemy & his enemy is the other enemy of my enemy... There's no hope of sound reasoning with any of them. So, the civilized alternative is to send those dangerous minds to the afterlife (euphemistically referring to h-e-double hockey sticks) as quickly as possible. NEVER FORGET 911 ~ 2001!!!

Any questions?!
---Leon on 9/11/14


the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)

or

the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS)

formerly The Islamic State (IS)



ISIS is the successor to Tanzim Qaidat al-Jihad fi Bilad al-Rafidayn

or better known as

Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)

What differentiates this jihadist group near the Euphrates different from past jihadist groups from near the Euphrates

other than its kitchy, catchy name?
---aka on 9/2/14


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