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Pastors Needed For Baptism

Why do we need to go to Pastors to baptise us when Jesus in Mat 28:19 clearly said 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

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Darlene, the baptism of John, which was basically the Jewish Rite of Mikveh, is not the same thing as Christian baptism, but I don't expect you to understand that.

Furthermore, John, being a Cohen, would have had the authority to baptize.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/20/15


Cluny I think this is the best example of what I said,no pastor needed to baptize. Luke 1:15 For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord,and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink:and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost even from his mothers womb.Luke 1:77 And you child shall be called the prophet of the Highest: for you shall go before the Lord to prepare his way. Luke 3 John preaching baptism of repentance for the remission of sins. John was never ordained in a church. He was called of God ,filled with the Holy Ghost,preached to sinners,and baptized. Any called of God,dedicated,HG filled,obedient Christian,who is sold out to God can baptize. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 3/20/15


\\ The bible tells us that Jesus baptised \\

As a matter of fact, it says the opposite, Rita.

John 4:2
(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)

In any case, Jesus is God Incarnate.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/20/15


I am, personally, not aware of any bible verse stating that people other than ministers can or cannot baptise believers.

The bible tells us that Jesus baptised and it also tells us about the disciples baptising but there seems to be no clarity either way regarding who can and who cannot perform this.

My own opinion is that most people will be happier if an ordained person does it but I don't believe it would be wrong for another born-again believer to do it either.
---Rita_H on 3/20/15


\\We don't need Pastors to do the baptizing. I would say any sold out,dedicated,and Spirit guided Christian who lives by the Word of God can do it. If I'm wrong please show me the chapter and verse in the Bible.\\

Darlene, since you are making the assertion, YOU are the one who must show us scriptural warrant why any "sold out dedicated and Spirit guided Christian who lives by the Word of God" may baptize.

In other words, show us from the Bible how you are RIGHT.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/19/15




"one baptism" (Ephesians 4:5)

"Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death?" (Romans 6:3)

baptized into water . . . or into His death? Did His death come after He was buried? I can see this is the "one baptism" of salvation, which baptizes us together with Jesus while He was still on the cross where He died.

Possibly, it is when we are each "joined to the Lord" to be "one spirit with Him" (1 Corinthians 6:17), therefore beginning in His own love which had Him die for us and also gets us started in loving like He does > Ephesians 5:2 > so that we are loving like disciples are taught to love.
---com7fy8 on 1/15/15


Cluny,

The Jews in Acts Chapter 2 were moved by the Holy Spirit when they cried out, "Men and brethren, what shall we do?".

Acts Chapter 10, these Gentiles were filled with the Holy Spirit when they began to speak in tongues.

Acts 15 Peter testifies that God made the choice that the Gentiles should hear and believe and that their hearts were purified by faith.

Eph 2:8 & 9 tells us that our faith is not of ourselves but it is a gift of God.

Action never precedes life. Life always precedes action.

The Spirit of God acts and we respond. That is the biblical order.
---trey on 10/16/14


People generally can't give definite Scripture to prove water baptism is compatible with the gospel of the grace of God. If they quote the so-called Great Commission of Matt 28 and Mark 16, these instructions were given to apostles, who were not yet in the BoC, apostles who will be on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel. (Matt 19:28). These apostles were ministers to the circumcision with the gospel of the circumcision. Gal 2. They were baptized and commissioned before the Body began historically. Then the Twelve were not baptized with water as members of the church Eph 1:19-22. Paul declared, Christ sent me not to baptize. I Cor 1:17. There's not a word instructing members of Christs Body to be water baptized.
---michael_e on 10/16/14


Cluny...

Not directly. I do know of some in similar positions.
---aka on 10/16/14


\\two men are stuck in the desert with little water. one witnesses to the other who is not a believer. that person now believes. he wants to return to tell his brothers. \\

How many people have you personally known in this situation?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/16/14




/In other words, he he baptized them (in water, notice) too to preserve the unity of the experience.\-Cluny on 10/16/14
Agreed.
I think the only thing on which we differ is whether it is a requirement or just a fruitful act in faith.
---micha9344 on 10/16/14


for baptism, can any man forbid..let's say...baptism in:

ketchup?
mud?
jello?
kool-aid?
pudding?

what if no water is available?

two men are stuck in the desert with little water. one witnesses to the other who is not a believer. that person now believes. he wants to return to tell his brothers.

baptism (with water) or survival? concern for self or for others?
---aka on 10/16/14


\\"As far as receiving the Holy Spirit before baptism, this is not the order in Acts 2."-Cluny on 10/14/14
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
---micha9344 on 10/16/14
\\

Good point, micha.

However, this is extraordinary, and is NOT the order seen elsewhere in Acts.

Note further that St. Peter didn't say, "Well, they have the Holy Ghost, so we don't have to do anything else," did he?

In other words, he he baptized them (in water, notice) too to preserve the unity of the experience.

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/16/14


"As far as receiving the Holy Spirit before baptism, this is not the order in Acts 2."-Cluny on 10/14/14
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
---micha9344 on 10/16/14


//\\"One Lord, one faith, one baptism," No water involved\\

//Wrong again.//

1 Cor 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body...
Where is the water?
---michael_e on 10/16/14


\\//Yes, it does, unless the context shows otherwise.//
\\

You're simply proving my point.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/15/14


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I said
//How true, the wisdom of this world is the belief that every time baptism is mentioned it's "Water\\
You said
//Of course, I never said that. So who is really being foolish?//
I said
Baptism doesn't automatically mean "WATER"
you said
//Yes, it does, unless the context shows otherwise.//
Do you read what you write?
---michael_e on 10/15/14


\\//The wisdom of this world is FOOLISHNESS with God.//
How true, the wisdom of this world is the belief that every time baptism is mentioned it's "Wate\\

Of course, I never said that. So who is really being foolish?

Do you understand what you read?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/15/14


//The wisdom of this world is FOOLISHNESS with God.//
How true, the wisdom of this world is the belief that every time baptism is mentioned it's "Water"
---michael_e on 10/15/14


\\//Do you? How do you know this?//
Simple, common sense\\

The wisdom of this world is FOOLISHNESS with God.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/15/14


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"He is saying that when we become a believer, we are immersed into the body of Jesus Christ."

Acts 8:13 "Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done."

... What then?
---Nana on 10/15/14


//Do you? How do you know this?//
Simple, common sense
//Where did you get the idea that you in fact do so?// Doctrine, Romans through Philemon (Christ crucified)

Gal 4:5 "ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism,"
1 Cor 12:13 "For by ONE Spirit are we all baptized into ONE BODY, whether we be Jews or Gentiles.."
Rom 6:3-6, "Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized (immersed) into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?..
No mention of water in this passage. He is saying that when we become a believer, we are immersed into the body of Jesus Christ. The body of Christ isn't a body of water
try again
---michael_e on 10/15/14


It is virtually impossible to tell on a website that another user is not a Christian but, more importantly, it is not for us to judge. We already have a judge and He will, one day, welcome us home or turn us away.

We do this site a dis-service with all the sniping going on here.

How about we all start praying for each other instead, especially for the unsaved to be saved.
---Rita_H on 10/15/14


//Yes, there is, because it is God who works in it.

As far as receiving the Holy Spirit before baptism, this is not the order in Acts 2.//

Cluny,
I understand why you say what you do. The Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox church believe in water baptism regeneration. But your teachings are wrong. God is not involved in a new believers life when the believer is water baptized. Water baptism is something believers do to proclaim there commitment to Christ. The new believer is already a believer. Otherwise why would he get baptize? Unbelievers do not get baptize. They hate Christ. Only believers believe in water baptism.
---Luke on 10/15/14


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\\I do have enough common sense to know that not every member of every congregation is Christian.\\

Do you? How do you know this?

\\I know that when our apostle says follow me as I follow Christ, that is what we are to do \\

Where did you get the idea that you in fact do so?

\\"One Lord, one faith, one baptism," No water involved\\

Wrong again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/14/14


//Do you really think that God gave you discernment to see into other people's hearts to determine their spiritual condition?//
Of course not, no more than you.
I do have enough common sense to know that not every member of every congregation is Christian.
I know that when our apostle says follow me as I follow Christ, that is what we are to do
"One Lord, one faith, one baptism," No water involved
---michael_e on 10/14/14


\\Do you believe every member in your congregation is Christian?\\

Well you clearly do not.

Of course, how do you personally determine who is a Christian?

Do you really think that God gave you discernment to see into other people's hearts to determine their spiritual condition?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/14/14


//Yes, it does, unless the context shows otherwise//
Our apostle says "otherwise"
I Cor 12 Is very clear." For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body"
Not water baptism, yet nearly every assembly requires water baptism for membership. Do you believe every member in your congregation is Christian? We are all members of congregations where there are unbelievers who have been baptized under whatever form of baptism their particular group uses. There are still people coming into every group who are totally unsaved, they're baptized and they are members there, but they are not members of the Body of Christ. There will be no unbelievers in the Body of Christ because that's the work of the Holy Spirit
---michael_e on 10/14/14


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John is the Anglicization through Latin and Greek of the original Hebrew....
Peter's original Hebrew name was Simon.
Try again.
---Cluny on 10/13/14

But, you made the point twice reversing direction.
Both are Hebrew, with latin names for Rome.
A latin/greek/samaritan or what ever name does not make that person, that "ethnos or ethne".
Samaritan woman at the well Jhn 4:9 spoke of her father, Jacob who dug the well. Samaritan by birth, she was of either house Israel by Jacob's lineage. As were "all" the disciples....and more surely those they baptized.
Unless they disobeyed our Lord....you imply?
Luk_19:10 For the Son of man is come to seek and to save ...
Mat_18:11
---Trav on 10/14/14


\\There is no power in baptizing a new believer in water. \\

Yes, there is, because it is God who works in it.

As far as receiving the Holy Spirit before baptism, this is not the order in Acts 2.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/14/14


Michael e, there is two baptisms. One that is of water once a person is saved. It does not have to be a pastor who baptizes a new believer. It can be anyone who is saved. There is no power in baptizing a new believer in water. Water baptism signifies a commitment the new believer makes, and represents dying and resurrecting.
Spiritual baptism is by the Holy Spirit when we are spiritually baptized into the body of Christ. This is a spiritual baptism done by the Holy Spirit at conversion.
---Luke on 10/14/14


\\//It was used in baptism.//
Baptism doesn't automatically mean "WATER"\\

Yes, it does, unless the context shows otherwise.

So it was believed for 2000 years since Christ.

Or is it just to YOU that the Word of God on this matter has come?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/13/14


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//It was used in baptism.//
Baptism doesn't automatically mean "WATER"
Matt 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost,(no Water) and with fire:(no Water)
(1 Cor 12:13, Eph 4:5, Col 2:12, Gal 3:27, Rom 6:3-4)
No water.
//Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that the Cripus in Acts was the Crispus in 1 Cor,//
Why? How many Abraham, Peter, or Jacobs do you see in the Bible?
"One Lord, one faith, one baptism," Not three
try again
---michael_e on 10/13/14


\\He said "believe" the crux of his gospel(1 Cor 15:1-4) .."and was baptized,.." Any water here?
---michael_e on 10/13/14\\

Yep.

It was used in baptism.

Furthermore, there is no reason to believe that the Cripus in Acts was the Crispus in 1 Cor, unless you believe there was only ONE Christian in Corinth named Crispus.

**(So? Mark, John, Peter etc are Latin names.**

John is the Anglicization through Latin and Greek of the original Hebrew Yochanon (or various other transliterations).

Peter's original Hebrew name was Simon.

Try again.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/13/14


//Stephanus, Crispus, and Gaius are all Gentile names.//
"Cripus, chief ruler of the synagogue"
Peter was eager to do something he believed was "unlawful"?
Acts 2:37."..what must WE(Israel) do"? 38 .."Repent, and be baptized EVERY ONE of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, AND ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
Acts 10 47 Can ANY MAN forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which HAVE received the Holy Ghost..." What was the purpose of Cornelius's baptism?
Paul, didn't tell the jailor, "repent and be baptized" He said "believe" the crux of his gospel(1 Cor 15:1-4) .."and was baptized,.." Any water here?
---michael_e on 10/13/14


Stephanus, Crispus, and Gaius are all Gentile names.
.....think for one minute the Phillippian jailer was a Jew?
---Cluny on 10/13/14

So? Mark, John, Peter etc are Latin names. As is "gentile". Do you think the Northern House of Israel dispersed, kept their Israelite names?
Gentile originally meant not of Rome. Its not hebrew!
Would be better to use the actual meaning of Gentile....which is "nation" or "etnos". Then one can see that in most cases it is the "ethnos" of Israel or nation of.
You imply Christ failed or the Apostles failed or disobeyed Matt 15:24 or Matt 10:6....or perhaps the prophets were false. Pretty dangerous ground...even for a orthodox.
---Trav on 10/13/14


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Stephanus, Crispus, and Gaius are all Gentile names.

And do you think for one minute the Phillippian jailer was a Jew?

There is nothing to suppose that St. Peter reluctantly baptized Cornelius and his household (which would have included servants). In fact, he was eager to do so.

And he NEVER said, "Well, they have the Spirit, so let's just go to the next town."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/13/14


//Is that why St. Paul and the other Apostles baptized
Gentiles, as the Bible records?//
Stephanas, Cripus, and Gaius, Which gentile does the Bible record Paul baptizing?
Gal 2 records the "other apostles(Peter, James and John) would go to the circumcision.
Acts 8 records Phillip baptizing a prosolyte
Acts 10 records Peter (reluctantly) baptizing gentiles.
Peter, one of the apostles to Israel records "an holy priesthood" (ref Ex 19:6)
---michael_e on 10/13/14


\\Water baptism like circumcision was directed to the nation of Israel, as was the earthly ministry of Christ\\

Is that why St. Paul and the other Apostles baptized Gentiles, as the Bible records?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/13/14


1 Peter 2:5 "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ."
Revelation 1:6 "And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father, to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen."

1 Peter 3:21_22 "The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God, angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him."
---Nana on 10/13/14


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Water baptism like circumcision was directed to the nation of Israel, as was the earthly ministry of Christ
Water baptism(washing) was simply a ritual that priests were required to do.Israel was to be a nation of priests(Ex 19:6)
Paul's writings are as true as the rest of the Bible writers. To reject Paul is to reject Christ
Eph 2:8-9 says, "For by grace ye are saved through faith,.. Baptism in water is an act of work. Salvation is a "free gift"
Paul wrote in Rom 6 ".. so many of us as were baptized (immersed) into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?"
no mention of water, we are immersed into the body of Christ.
"One Lord, one faith, one baptism,"
---michael_e on 10/12/14


Michael e, didn't Jesus tell His disciples to go out to all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit AFTER His ressurrection? Matt 28:18-20. Can Paul's words ever surpass the Words of Jesus Christ? Baptism is the cleansing of the outer man preparing him for the process of sanctification. "Sanctify them thru thy Truth, thy Word is Truth." John 17:17.
---barb on 10/12/14


If water baptism was not necessary...

Why did Jesus set an example to get baptised with water? Matthew 3:13-17, Mark 10:38,39

And what about Philip baptising the eunuch in water? Acts 8:35-38

Water baptism washes the outside of the person (the public repentance of sin - Mark 1:4, 5, Luke 3:3, Acts 19:4) while the Holy Spirit washes the inside of a person (laying on of hands - Hebrews 6:2, Luke 3:16). It's too bad that christians only stop at water baptism.

Acts 2:38
Romans 6:3-6
Colossians 2:12
1 Peter 3:21

I remember a quote saying that Gods people should be baptized because God commanded it, not because some church requires it.
---Steveng on 10/12/14


Jesus earthly ministry was to Israel
No one preaching the baptism gospel understood the preaching of the cross. Wherever the baptism gospel is presented in scripture it is always presented for remission (forgiveness) of sins.
Paul taught the cross of Christ for forgiveness of sins. Water baptism had been replaced by something greater
At one time the gospel of a kingdom and remission of sins was tied to water baptism, until Paul.
It was first known by Paul that water baptism was not required and was separate from the true forgiveness of sins which is through Christs blood (Eph 1:7).
---michael_e on 10/11/14


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\\as water baptism serves no purpose.
---michael_e on 10/9/14\\

Then why did Jesus command it?

Glory to jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/11/14


//any sold out,dedicated,and Spirit guided Christian who lives by the Word of God can do it."//
Anyone can baptize and anyone can be baptized, as water baptism serves no purpose.
---michael_e on 10/9/14


At what point in his ministry did Paul baptize? At what point was it revealed to him water baptism wasn't part of his ministry? I don't believe everything was revealed to him at one point.
---michael_e on 10/9/14

Act 9:15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

where was his instruction to baptize? paul never said that it was part of his ministry to baptize, and that it was revealed to him otherwise.

Therefore, as Darlene said as far as water baptism, "any sold out,dedicated,and Spirit guided Christian who lives by the Word of God can do it."
---aka on 10/9/14


Cluny Actually I asked for anyone who knew I was wrong to show me the Chapter and Verse to prove their point,I assume you don't know any. Here is what you ask for Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations,baptize them into the Name of the Father,Son,and Holy Ghost. Websters definition,Disciple One who accepts and assists in spreading of the doctrine of another. A.one of 12.B A convinced adherent of a school or individual. We are one of the nations,therefore we are disciples,disciples can baptize. That makes it where we can baptize without being a preacher. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 10/9/14


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//So, either Paul directly disobeyed the Lord by doing what the Lord did not commission him//
At what point in his ministry did Paul baptize? At what point was it revealed to him water baptism wasn't part of his ministry? I don't believe everything was revealed to him at one point.
---michael_e on 10/9/14


I shall await with interest.
Cluny on 10/8/141

Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:...

doesn't this verse itself back up what Darlene was trying to say?

Christ did not ordain Paul to baptize, but Paul did anyway in a few instances: Crispus, Gaius, and the household of Stephanas.

So, either Paul directly disobeyed the Lord by doing what the Lord did not commission him, or "any sold out,dedicated,and Spirit guided Christian who lives by the Word of God can do it."

no matter, the Lord will pour out (baptize) by his spirit and not water... John 1:33
one baptism
Pro 1:23
Eze 39:29
Joe 2:28-29
Zec 12:10
Act 2:17-18
---aka on 10/9/14


\\I would say any sold out,dedicated,and Spirit guided Christian who lives by the Word of God can do it. If I'm wrong please show me the chapter and verse in the Bible.\\

Please show chapter and verse that support what you would say.

I shall await with interest.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/8/14


Hi, Jasper (c: Acts 8:26-40 > Philip ministered for the eunuch to believe in Jesus, and then Philip baptized him. It looks to me like Philip was one of the first deacons (Acts 6:1-7). But if he was the Philip who was a deacon, he was ordained by Peter.

We in the body of Jesus do things together. So, if a pastor baptizes someone who has gotten saved, we all are sharing in this with the pastor.

So, it is not a status thing. "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3) So, in case you feel that all pastors are abusing their power, may be you need to discover a real pastor . . . or change from how your ego has you seeing people in authority.
---com7fy8 on 10/6/14


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Local churches baptize unbelievers in water and into their membership, because humans can't determine, The Holy Spirit as He baptizes never makes a mistake.
---michael_e on 9/17/14


This explains the local baptist churches in my area won't even let another flavor of baptist to join their church. They discern the signs of the sky but, not scripture,the times or the heart.

Is this formula for church inclusion/membership witnessed by scripture? Multiple witnesses please. Prophets testifying. As below.

Psa_51:2 Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.
Isa_1:16 Wash you, make you clean, put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes, cease to do evil,
---Trav on 9/18/14


Mat 28:18,19 was speaking to the 11 disciples which translates to us today. It never said pastors. We are disciples of Christ. I still don't understand how most churches today only allow pastors to do. It isn't scriptural. Are we following Christ's example today or mans?
---Jasper on 9/18/14


Jasper: The people to whom Christ said to go and teach all nations would be seen as the pastors of the church of the day.

They were sent on a new 'profession', of going to preach the gospel. The question of when the pastors became separate from the laymen is uncertain, probably in the second or third century.

The idea of a layman baptising is still done, but as a rule only when a pastor is not available
---Peter on 9/17/14


\\1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize,...\\
Eph 4:5b "...one baptism,"
Paul says, There arent numerous modes of baptism, only one. I Cor 12:13
its the only baptism that makes a difference. You can be baptized in water a hundred times and its not going to fit you for eternity.
The Holy Spirit places the believer into the BoC. Thats the one baptism Paul talks about in Ephesians. The different methods denominations demand is up to them. No unbelievers are placed into the BoC.
Local churches baptize unbelievers in water and into their membership, because humans can't determine, The Holy Spirit as He baptizes never makes a mistake.
---michael_e on 9/17/14


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\\1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. \\

That's because St. Paul, as a missionary bishop, would not be the usual minister of baptism.

These would be performed by the local presbyters.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/17/14


//Why do we need to go to Pastors to baptize//
We don't, there is only one baptism today(Eph 4:5) and it has nothing to do with water.
---michael_e on 9/16/14

As scripture is understood. The thief next to Christ would testify.

We should sift "pastors" words, who are more and more often un-scripturally witnessed or supported.

1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
Eph 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive,
---Trav on 9/17/14


//Why do we need to go to Pastors to baptize//
We don't, there is only one baptism today(Eph 4:5) and it has nothing to do with water.
---michael_e on 9/16/14


Considering that a large number of pastors are not born-again Christians I'm sure that God would prefer a true believer to baptize others than to have a 'career' pastor do that.
---Rita_H on 9/16/14


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In the Orthodox church, under normal circumstances, the pastor performs baptism by triple immersion.

In an emergency--which means imminent danger of death--any Orthodox Christian may do so, pouring water three times over the head and face, saying the formula, "The servant of God NAME is baptized in the Name of the Father (first pour), and of the Son (second pour), and of the Holy Spirit (third pour)."

Baptism, like all the other Sacraments, is a matter for the Church and of interest to the Congregation.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/16/14


We don't need Pastors to do the baptizing. I would say any sold out,dedicated,and Spirit guided Christian who lives by the Word of God can do it. If I'm wrong please show me the chapter and verse in the Bible. Jasper in Acts the Apostles were baptizing in Jesus Name. In Mat 28:19 it says baptize in "the" name,singular not plural as one would think because it then says "the"name of the Father,Son,and Holy Ghost,in view of the singular then examine what is 'the"name. Since all power in Heaven and Earth was given to Jesus,the Word was with God and the Word was God,Word was made flesh,Jesus. Some Pastors baptize in the name of F,S,HG,in Jesus Name. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 9/16/14


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