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Did Jesus Inherit Salvation

Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs, heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ, if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

What does this verse mean to you? Do you believe Jesus inherited salvation? Or that salvation is inherited?

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Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith, and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

By contrast, salvation is NOT an inheritance, but a gift from God, which has no paper / film / stone document as proof. God gives this gift to those He has decided to adopt. The evidence they have is not a touchable / seeable document, but a type of 'deed' stored in their spirit that contains the evidence of iron clad ownership in what they have not yet seen (Heb 11:1). This invisible Spiritual deed will be honored by the only One who can really see it.
---aservant on 12/15/14

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Jesus is the Child of God, an Heir. Spirit-filled Christians are adopted children, thus heirs. Heir = one who inherits. A validated will (testament) specifies who will inherit what upon their death (Heb 9:16-17). We inherit much of the Spiritual/Heavenly stuff that Jesus inherits. A document (our NT) is our proof of Heavenly inheritance.
---aservant on 12/15/14

Samuel, that is absolutely correct. I like to think of these as the 777, where all are the work of God making us acceptably for the New Creation.

Those who miss out are 666.

Honor AND Glory are two entirely different things. That is why there is the word AND between these words. If Honor IS Glory ...meaning one and the same, it completely alters many scriptures. Christ in you, the hope of Honor??? Nop, the hope of GLORY, just as Jesus prayed for us in John 17. We are being changed from GLORY TO GLORY, not honor to honor......

So JamesL please stop pressing YOUR false doctrine here.
---kathr4453 on 10/12/14

As with many theological terms that men use to express Biblical topics the word itself may not be in the Bible. But as others have pointed out the concept and root word is there.

It is part of what is the threefold changes by which we are transformed.

Justification. Saved by Grace declared sinless. Done in a moment.

Sanctification. The transforming work of the HOLY SPIRIT changing us into the image of GOD. Done through out our lives.

Glorification. The transformation we undergo as we go to Heaven.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/10/14

John 17:5

5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

JamesL i also hope i haven't misunderstood your last post. You do know Jesus LEFT Glory for us correct.

Christ in you...the HOPE OF GLORY. Just as aka's scripture posted says.

Through Jesus obedience unto death, HE WAS REWARDED, not only inheriting ALL THINGS, but the absolute right to sit on the throne of David, here, (not in heaven) fulfilling the promises to earthly Israel. There is no throne of David in heaven. Only GOD's throne in heaven. And WE His Body will inherit all things INCLUDING reigning and ruling with Him those 1000 years. We've also inherited the right to judge Angels.
---kathr4453 on 10/10/14

//scripture doesn't even contain the word "glorification"//

no. not the actual word, but variants of that usually have to do with glorification of the Lord. (actually, scripture does not contain any english word.)

This is where the concept may come from:

2Th 1:12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.
---aka on 10/9/14

scripture doesn't even contain the word "glorification"

you seem to have some mystical understanding of the issue. Glory is honor.

Hebrews 2:9-10 says that Jesus received glory and honor because He endured suffering.

see the similar wording in Romans 8:28-29, where it speaks of US being glorified -which means receiving glory. Just like He received glory.

cut the mysticism and take scripture for what it actually says. Stop pressing doctrine onto the text
---James_L on 10/9/14

Yahushua (JESUS) did not "inherit" Salvation.
Rather, He IS Salvation (John 14:6 testifies this).
Yahushua, with His Father, provides Salvation.

Yahushua was already God (God the Son), but, He did earn even more Glory by becoming a Man, like His Creation of mankind, and laying down His Life as a Sacrificial Lamb for mankind.
We, as true Believers, inherit what He accrued and what He rewards to His faithful followers.
---Gordon on 10/9/14

JamesL, to be Glorified together with Christ will not be in degrees of Glorification, leading to degrees of honor, leading to degrees of of rewards. Maybe that is what Orthodox teach, but not what scripture teaches. And this is not what being "Joint Heir with Christ " means either. The saints shall inherit ALL things. Not some saints shall inherit some things while other saints inherit all things...and so on.

So Cluny's and your answer has nothing to do with being a Joint-Heir with Christ.
---kathr4453 on 10/9/14


you misunderstand what I mean when I say "matter of the will"

not "will yourself to suffer". When you surrender your will, scripture calls that suffering. It is a "matter", or issue, of the will. When you consider God's will above your own, you are suffering.

as for Cluny's post, he mentioned DEGREE of glory. Glory is honor. Some will receive more honor than others. He who seeks to be first, will be last.
---James_L on 10/8/14

What I have said is that suffering is a matter of the will.////

Actually I believe it is a matter of Being Christians.

Christians have suffered right from Abel being murdered through today. Our will has nothing to do with it. WHO we belong to has everything to do with it. and what we believe has everything to do with it. I cannot will myself to suffer, or will myself out of suffering. I however surrender my will and accept what God has already planned for me, even if it means death as I surrender to His will.
---kathr4453 on 10/8/14

JamesL do you believe every single saved person is a joint heir with Christ?.... But only some will share in that reward of being Joint heirs?????

Of coarse ever single saved person is justified, and will be glorified. YET you seemed to think no one but Cluny understands this fact??? What does the Orthodox doctrine understand that no one else here understands?

Please explain that comment.
---kathr4453 on 10/8/14

I have NEVER said that suffering is a choice.

What I have said is that suffering is a matter of the will.

BIG difference

When we are being led by the Holy Spirit, we lay down our will to do the Father's will.

Hebrews 5:8
Although He was a Son, He learned obedience from the things which He suffered.

1 Pet 2:21
For you have been called for this purpose, since Christ also suffered for you, leaving you an example for you to follow in His steps

Are you going to tell me that obedience isn't a matter of the will?
---James_L on 10/8/14

Jesus Is & the author of His salvation. The Acts Church of The Living God, delivered to the Jewish people First by Apostle Peter on the day of Pentecost.

Those that are puffed up n self proclaimed with their theology, ideology, orthodoxy commandments n doctrines of men. They have No parallel with The Word of God What so ever.
---Lawrence on 10/7/14

biblical suffering is when we "suffer" our will to being led by the Holy Spirit and the inheritance of "salvation" is a possession
---James_L on 10/6/14

I would suggest that our will being conformed to the image of Christ is not suffering but our reasonable service (Rom 12:1-2) as Christians. Any rejection of our will being conformed is disobedience on our part. I personally do not include testing and persecution into the idea of suffering. But if you do, then the meaning of suffering expands.

I personally do not see salvation as a possession I can lay hold of, but it certainly is a gift of God that I take freely (Rom. 5:8) and put on (Eph. 4:24).
---Mark_Eaton on 10/7/14

It would be in everyone's best interest to peek in on Cluny's post, where he mentioned justification, glory and reward. So far, he's the only one who has a biblical grasp of the distinctions. ---James_L on 10/5/14

JamesL you have often posted our suffering is a choice. And only those who make that choice will be rewarded. WRONG!

Also pointing to the ORTHODOX understanding of Justification sanctification and Glorification and saying it was the ONLY correct answer was a truly bad choice of distinction to make here.

Since ORTHODOX is ALL self justification, sanctification and Glorification and often self mutilation, seeing SELF has nothing to do with it, Cluny's may be the only answer that does not qualify.
---kathr4453 on 10/7/14

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18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.

19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.

20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,

21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

These verses follow after verse 17....and then we have Paul telling us...Don't you know you will be judging Angels.....

So much more going on than we can wrap our minds around.
---kathr4453 on 10/7/14

Do you believe Jesus inherited salvation? No to both questions.
What does the verse mean to you?
The believer is a joint heir with Christ to the Kingdom of Heaven and eternal life.
---joseph on 10/6/14


you've never seen me write anything about self inflicted suffering. It's by suffering that we are conformed to the image of Christ.

this is what we were called for (1Pet 2:20-21)

but suffering is not only according to a Western understanding.

biblical suffering is when we "suffer" our will to being led by the Holy Spirit

and the inheritance of "salvation" is a possession
---James_L on 10/6/14

JESUS is GOD by inheritance///

If Jesus is God, Jesus isn't God by Inheritance. If Jesus is God by Inheritance then we become God by Inheritance. BUT we know that isn't true either.
---kathr4453 on 10/6/14

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scott1, do you have any scripture to back up Jesus "inherited" Resurrection? Again Jesus said "I AM" the Resurrection.
---kathr453 on 10/6/14

//So first we need to know....WHAT did Jesus INHERIT?
---kathr453 on 10/6/14//

---Scott1 on 10/6/14

We are given Salvation by the Grace of GOD. JESUS is GOD by inheritance and because He is GOD His death could atone for the sins of the world.

When we are Born Again we become children of GOD and joint-heirs with JESUS.

So no JESUS did not inherit salvation. We are give it by grace alone.

---Samuelbb7 on 10/6/14

Taking another look at the prodigal son. He was a son. The inheritance was his from birth. Yet he squandered it, yet still a son having never lost his son ship. Same as Esau. So it's not about loosing salvation, but squandering away your birthright/inheritance that is yours from the moment of your New Birth. Like pealing an onion, these deeper truths are spoken of in Ephesians Ch 1-6 for starters. There is MORE going on here than salvation...since salvation itself was NEVER A MYSTERY.
---kathr4453 on 10/6/14

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To be a "JOINT HEIR" with someone, one must ask ..what did the other INHERIT that we are JOINT heirs together. Jesus did not inherit salvation. CORRECT Jesus IS Salvation.

So first we need to know....WHAT did Jesus INHERIT?
---kathr453 on 10/6/14

needs to read Hebrews 1:14 those who will inherit salvation and colossians 3:23-24 reward of the inheritance
---James_L on 10/5/14

Every person has inherited salvation and at the same time, no one has inherited salvation. Seeming contradiction but it is not.

All humans have inherited salvation from Jesus. His gift is to all humanity, an inheritance from God the Father.

Yet, none will inherit salvation from any other source. Salvation will not be passed down to anyone from father or mother. All must deal with Jesus gift for themselves.

And what specifically are we to inherit according to Col 3?
---Mark_Eaton on 10/6/14

We are sanctified once and for all through the Body of Christ. Hebrews 10. So are some "more" sanctified than others? Are those who have been saved longer going to have a larger inheritance than someone just saved. I believe there is a parable that says not. something like....the ones coming in a the end got paid the exact amount as the ones who worked from the beginning.
---kathr4453 on 10/6/14

//whom God has justified, He has also Glorified.//

agreed. I am speaking to santification not justification.
---Scott1 on 10/6/14

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James_L may have something of an idea, but not quite there yet James_L.

Those who are Justified will be Glorified. This FACT cannot be altered. There are no degrees of Glory. Jesus will present to Himself a GLORIOUS CHURCH without spot or wrinkle. So self glorification based on self inflicted suffering leading to self achieving rewards is not nor has ever been preached in scripture. I know James_L has stated he believes this, and I disagree.

I think a clue is rereading Hebrews re Easu selling his BIRTHRIGHT, which was his inheritance. The birthright or inheritance was not salvation. It wasn't even something he could earn.
---kathr4453 on 10/6/14

It would be in everyone's best interest to peek in on Cluny's post, where he mentioned

justification, glory and reward. So far, he's the only one who has a biblical grasp of the distinctions.

Mark Eaton needs to read Hebrews 1:14 those who will inherit salvation

and colossians 3:23-24 reward of the inheritance
---James_L on 10/5/14

"No, Jesus did not inherit salvation. He is salvation, like the girl said, who gives us inheritance of salvation, to us who believe in Him, who trusted in Him."

So, yes, the salvation is not the inheritance, but getting saved gets us with Jesus so we can share with Him in His inheritance. So, salvation is not inherited, but it is our means to get to our inheritance with God.

Of course, Jesus is the Savior. So, He does not need to get saved, in order to get His inheritance.

And, by "inheritance", I mean all that He has coming to Him from the Father, and He desires to share all that is His with us > example > John 17:22-26.
---com7fy8 on 10/5/14

\\ There is only ONE Gospel leading to salvation.
---kathr4453 on 10/3/14

Quite right.

That's why I'm Orthodox.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/3/14

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Christians regardless of where they live SUFFER. And the idea that those who believe in the rapture to escape suffering , does not realize that for 2000 years Christians HAVE SUFFERED. To be made conformable to His death is the ULTIMATE suffering every single true believer experiences and has for 2000 years. So those who have never suffered and hope to escape suffering by being raptured is nonsense only an unbeliever can conjure up without any idea the CHURCH itself is the suffering church. Paul tells us in Thessalonians it is a TOKEN from God showing we are truly saved.

Yes the Gospel of America is an accursed gospel, Those under it's spell are NOT SAVED IN THE FIRST PLACE. There is only ONE Gospel leading to salvation.
---kathr4453 on 10/3/14

\\ And we know one is justified by faith not by suffering. \\

Justification is one thing. Degree of glory and reward is another.

For Christians in Iraq, faith in Christ invariably leads to suffering that American Christians (God's spoiled brats who think they will be raptured) can't imagine.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/3/14

Scott1, scripture also says, whom God has justified, He has also Glorified. And we know one is justified by faith not by suffering.

The Hope of GLORY, Paul,speaks about in Colossians 1:24-27, was kept secret but now revealed. It was a Mystery kept secret. And applies to the CHURCH, the Body of Christ alone., and was never promised to earthly Israel.
---kathr4453 on 10/3/14

Jesus cannot inherit salvation, Jesus is our salvation. Nor can Jesus or salvation be inherited. It cannot be handed down from generation to generation.

Every man must deal with Jesus and salvation for himself. Jesus said "I am the door, I am the only way to the Father" and into Gods family as adopted children. Every man must for himself answer the question Jesus posed to the Apostles: "Who do you say that I am".

If eye has not seen or ear heard what God has for us, what the Father has for Jesus is certainly unfathomable.
---Mark_Eaton on 10/3/14

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Paul's theology in Romans is that our spirit man and sinful flesh man are separate. Romans 7:17.
So in speaking to the spirit man in Romans 8 we are like Christ being sinless and thus an heir (prodical son mindset) of God to be called his children which is our new identity in God. With our new likeness of Christ we pick up our cross (burdens, passions, love) daily, "for no greater love than to loose one's life for a friend." Obviously we cannot go to the cross and suffer like Jesus because we are sinful but in his strength we serve our brothers in Christ and are salt/light to the world. Through our suffer in righteousness we are also glorified.
---Scott1 on 10/3/14

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