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Did Adam Sin First

Was Adam the first one to sin?

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Jerry, I am sorry you feel so angry. May God give you peace of heart.
---learner2 on 11/1/14


Leon, No distortion here, everything I said is scripture.
Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up...huh Leon?
---1stcliff on 11/1/14


Anyone reading (and believing) the bible cannot possible even think that Adam sinned first. We are told that Eve ate of the fruit then gave it to Adam and he also ate. They BOTH sinned but Adam was not the first one to do so.

I don't see why the question even needed to be asked in the first place unless the asker doubts the accuracy of scripture.
---Rita_H on 11/1/14


"Leon, Here's another "view" Many times in scripture, God pleaded with Israel to turn around and mend her ways and be richly blessed. This would be a scam if He knew full well the urging was fruitless, right?
Even now it's "Whosoever believes" meaning anyone can choose obedience and life!
It's not pre-planned!"
---1stcliff on 11/1/14


Cliff: That's one helluva distorted view! I don't know what it is that you're on, but you need to get off of it immediately & climb out of the rabbit hole as quickly as you can.
---Leon on 11/1/14


One can never experience the joy of reconciliation without having first been alienated.
---learner2 on 11/1/14




learner: "God planned it. If you set something up so that it's bound to happen, you have planned it, and you take responsibility for it."

Nonsense! God is in no way responsible for the sin problem. Sin is Satan's creation - not God's. Blasphemy!


---jerry6593 on 11/1/14


Thank you micha, you put down the real Truth. Happy to see that some one else feels the same way as I do. This reminds me of the Assyrian commander who came with a hundred eighty five thousand solders and surround Jerusalem and mock Hezekiah and Almighty God. Because Hezekiah believed in the Lord and said "the Lord will deliver us" and what did God do to all those solders? Killed them all. I wonder if any of those killed had "free will'? How about what happen to the king? His own sons killed him. It was all in the plan of God.
---Luke on 11/1/14


Leon, Here's another "view"
Many times in scripture, God pleaded with Israel to turn around and mend her ways and be richly blessed.
This would be a scam if He knew full well the urging was fruitless , right?
Even now it's "Whosoever believes" meaning anyone can choose obedience and life!
It's not pre-planned !
---1stcliff on 11/1/14


It's all a matter of perspective Cliff. Based on where we're at & what we're standing on determines our vantage points of view. We can choose & stand forever on the rock solid word of God (the Bible) or else willfully reject God's Word, sink & perish in the sands of time.

What you & I see are as different as Abraham & the rich man's points of view in the parable you think is a make believe story (Lk.16:19-31). Our views, unfortunately, are as different as day & night.

God is pleased to make a way of salvation, for all who believe (trust, have faith) in Him to be delivered from out of hell. Yes Cliff, HELL ("...this sick & sorry world...")!
---Leon on 10/31/14


Leon, **Tell me** because you're always telling me I'm wrong !

Look at this sick and sorry world and describe the pleasure God is having from his creation of people !

Yep, He planned it all.....Oh my !...really ?
---1stcliff on 10/31/14




God planned it. If you set something up so that it's bound to happen, you have planned it, and you take responsibility for it.
---learner2 on 10/31/14


/God did not plan or condone this.\-jerry6593 on 10/31/14
I agree. But we need to take it a step further. God did not plan this, but He planned for it. His omniscience is why Christ was prepared before the foundation of the world.
Mat 25:34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
1Pe 1:19,20
---micha9344 on 10/31/14


I believe Lucifer and 1/3 of the Angels were the first to sin.
---kathr4453 on 10/31/14


Leon, TELL ME why you think God created humans!
---1stcliff on 10/30/14

Oh boy! Here we go again with the Cliff "Tell Me" game. Well bud, I'll go you one better than telling you "my opinion". I'll give you a Bible fact: God made US for His good pleasure & purpose.

"For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them." (Eph. 2:10, ESV)
---Leon on 10/31/14


God created humans for His own glory. He did not create us so that He could bring us glory, it is the other way around. He glories in all of His creation. Isaiah says,
The whole earth is full of His glory" All of creation is a continual explosion of the glory of God.
---Luke on 10/31/14


I think that Cliff had the answer to the blog question. It was Lucifer who sinned first and became Satan. God did not plan or condone this.

Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

It was Satan who lured Eve into sin. Eve then lured Adam. The rest, as they say, is history.
---jerry6593 on 10/31/14


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\\Leon, Tell me why you think God created humans !
---1stcliff on 10/30/14\\

I believe God created humans to lavish His love upon us.

In fact, I believe that creation exists and is sustained by God's overflowing loving creative will.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/30/14


Leon, Tell me why you think God created humans !
---1stcliff on 10/30/14


"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare & not for evil, to give you a future & a hope. Then [you'll] call upon me & come & pray to me, & [I'll] hear you. [You'll] seek me & find me, when you seek me with all your heart. [I'll] be found by you, declares the Lord, & [I'll] restore your fortunes & gather you from all the nations & all the places where [I've] driven you, declares the Lord, & [I'll] bring you back to the place from which I sent you into exile." (Jer. 29:11-14, ESV)

Cliff: Man's plans are generally subjective, foolish, empty & pointless. God's "plans" are always objective, full of meaning & purpose.
---Leon on 10/30/14


Luke, thanks for your support on 28th. Much appreciated.
---Rita_H on 10/30/14


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micha9344, Let me put this a different way...God says "What I have purposed ,I will do"
He does not "plan" He purposes, man plans !
His purpose was clear to Adam's mandate, God did not tempt Adam.
The warning was clear ..eat and die, obey and live !
The choice was pointless if the outcome was foreknown !
His purpose was not to create man only to die!
Explain what God's purpose was in creating humans !
!


---1stcliff on 10/29/14


Good point Micha

Luke you seem to have left some of the Calvinist teachings.

Yes we are responsible for our actions. GOD offers Salvation to all people and it is our fault if we do not take it.

Many missionaries go abroad and at home are telling others about JESUS. We should all be doing so also.

Agape
---Samuelbb7 on 10/29/14


Yes, anticipation, it is part of planning.
The difference is, God does not anticipate. He knows.
That does not make Him culpable.
Even in sports, plans are made with the anticipation of action/reaction from the opposing team.
We may fail in our plans because we do not have full knowledge. God does and, therefore, will not fail.
He planned for Adam to fail, since Adam did not have full knowledge, and without full knowledge, failure is inevitable.
Can you tell me, 1stcliff, if I have incorporated my anticipation of your response into my plan?
I have planned for you to respond. Let's see if my plan fails or not.
---micha9344 on 10/29/14


1Cliff, if I knew for sure you could come to know the truth, I could plan to go visit you and present to you the gospel.
Cliff, God knew if He gave man the power to make a decision, he would fail. God in no way compelled man to fall. He simply withheld that undeserved constraining grace with which Adam would infallibly not have fallen, which grace He was under no obligation to bestow. In respect to Adam, Adam might have stood had he so chosen, but in respect to God it was certain that he would fall. Adam acted freely.
God's decrees does not take away man's liberty, and in the fall Adam freely exercised the natural emotions of his will.
---Luke on 10/29/14


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//You make God responsible for this sorry mess we've been in for centuries ! Get real Luke !//

1Cliff, God is not responsible for man's sin, man is. God did not make them sin, but knew they would. When He made His plan he knew they would fall so He made an eternal covenant. Jesus agreed to do what the Father told Him to do. That's why we are told that Christ was "Foreknown indeed (as a sacrifice for sin) before the foundation of the world" (1 Peter 1:20). Paul speaks of "the eternal purpose" which was purposed in Jesus Christ our Lord," (Eph. 3:11).
You believe that Almighty God did not know Adam would sin.
Kathr, God "Foreknows" and "foreknown" means that God knew before time.
---Luke on 10/29/14


micha 9344, If you "planned" my response then you are responsible for my action !
You may have anticipated something along these lines ,but that's not your "plan". There is a big difference!
---1stcliff on 10/28/14


//Luke, **Adam's fall was in the plan of God Before creation** is the most ridiculous statement ever made by someone pretending to be Christian !
You make God responsible for this sorry mess we've been in for centuries \\-1stcliff on 10/28/14
- I planned on you saying something like that. It doesn't mean I'm responsible for you saying it.
It just means I can react to it, or, in God's case, plan accordingly in advance.
---micha9344 on 10/28/14


1cliff, it's only because Luke does not understand definitions of words or meanings. To Foreknow something is not the same as fore-planning something. The fall of man was foreknown, not foreordained. There is a HUGE difference between these words. And what Luke believes is actually Mormonism. I think you will find many of his beliefs are hard to separate from Mormonism.
---kathr4453 on 10/28/14


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Cliff: Regardless of the millenniums of worldwide, consuming HELLFIRE (diseases & tormenting demons: international & homegrown), God defines SUCCESS as eternal life in Jesus Christ.

"But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God." John 1:12-13, KJV

It's about having mature faith (trust) in God no matter what! Deliverance (salvation, rescue) is in Jesus Christ. Otherwise, we perish in this hell (the world).
---Leon on 10/28/14


The Mormons of LDS believe that sin was planned by GOD so that his children could work on becoming gods.

Calvinists believe GOD planned sin because he plans everything and causes all things to happen. That he wanted millions to die and then He could put them in hell and torture them for all eternity for what he decided that they would do.

Others who are not Calvinists believe GOD forsaw what would happen because of free will of men and planned for it.

Calvinist do not believe that we decide anything that we are little programmed robots.
---Samuelbb7 on 10/28/14


Luke, **Adam's fall was in the plan of God Before creation** is the most ridiculous statement ever made by someone pretending to be Christian !
You make God responsible for this sorry mess we've been in for centuries ! Get real Luke !
---1stcliff on 10/28/14


Leon, From that day (Adam's fall) to today ,it's been one disaster after another.
Even now, 6 thousand years later we are plaqued with ebola, cancer, Islamic radicals etc...where's this "success" you'te talking about ???
---1stcliff on 10/28/14


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//Cliff: Rita probably would since the whole thing may well be way above her level of reading comprehension.

You seem to be insinuating that sin originated with God Cliff. Is that right?//

Leon, now you are insinuating that Rita is short on reading comprehension because she does not agree with you adding to Scripture. In fact she is correct in her answer to you, you just don't like for someone else to disagree with you. Your took a blow at her for no good reason. You do believe you are smarter then everyone else. It's not that she cannot read the whole newspaper, she just doesn't like to add to it.
---Luke on 10/28/14


Adam's fall was in the plan of God. Before creation, before the foundation of the world, we are told that Christ was "Foreknown indeed (as a sacrifice for sin) before the foundation of the world" (1 Peter 1:20). Paul speaks of "the eternal purpose" which was purposed in Jesus Christ our Lord," (Eph. 3:11). The writer of Hebrews refers to "the blood of an eternal covenant" (Heb. 13:20).
And since the plan of redemption is thus traced back to eternity, the plan to permit man to fall into the sin from which he was thus to be redeemed must also extend back to eternity, otherwise there would have been no occasion for redemption.
This is the Word of God, not a newspaper.
---Luke on 10/28/14


Eve sinned before Adam. Adam followed Eve. The first case of going down with the ship. 1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not the one deceived, it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
---sin5694 on 10/27/14


"...Scripture doesn't tell us everything! You're saying God could not take this option? There's nothing He can't do if he so chooses! No one, not even God, proceeds with an option that he "knows" will fail!...God gave Adam the chance of a lifetime, that could have succeeded, but he failed, not God! That's the kind of a just God we have as our creator !"
---1stcliff on 10/27/14


Scripture tells us everything we need to know. What you don't get Cliff is Adam's failure (weakness) was/is an opportunity for loving God to display (demonstrate/show us) how He turns failure into success for our good. Adam failed because he was inexperienced & had much to learn about & from God. So do we grasshopper! :)
---Leon on 10/27/14


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Leon, **Scripture doesn't say God chooses not to know**
Scripture doesn't tell us everything !
You're saying God could not take this option ?
There's nothing He can't do if he so chooses!
No one, not even God, proceeds with an option that he "knows" will fail !
No laboratory embarks on an experiment that has no chance of success!(and this is just humans) God gave Adam the chance of a lifetime ,that could have succeeded , but he failed , not God!
That's the kind of a just God we have as our creator !
---1stcliff on 10/27/14


/Do you discard the whole newspaper if one article is questionable ? ...do you chuck the whole paper ?\-1stcliff on 10/26/14
1stcliff, do you get your doctrine from a newspaper?
Why would you get your doctrine from an error filled Bible then?
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
2Pe 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
-Apparently the Holy Ghost only moved people before Christ.
Mat 22:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
-The same power of God that can move His Word through ages of humans without error?
---micha9344 on 10/27/14


No Cliff I would not and the reason is that newspapers do not claim to be God's Word to man. We know that much of what we read in a newspaper is 'questionable'. A misleading newspaper article will not affect my eternal security.

Regarding Leon's comment to your question to me "the whole thing may well be way above her level of reading comprehension" his words are absolutely despicable and I will deal with him no further - leaving that to God. Those who resort to insults have already lost the plot and the argument.
---Rita_H on 10/27/14


Cliff: I don't believe God wanted the Adams to fall, though He definitely knew they would. Giving A & E free will to choose certainly set the stage for their inevitable fall. Since then, loving God has been communicating with, reaching down & picking up people who cry out for His help & guidance. God wants us all to mature & grow up knowing Him, & to walk in His likeness & advance to the next levels of life in Him.

Scripture doesn't say God chooses not to know. He's Omniscient & thereby always knows everything. The Bible says God chooses not to remember (He forgives) the sins of repentant people.

We can't limit God's ability. We can however "choose" to limit our upward maturity in Him.
---Leon on 10/27/14


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Leon, If you're one of those that believe "This is all part of God's plan" (Adam sinning) then of course God is complicit !
I happen to believe that Adam sinning was not in His "plan" but a free choice Adam made !
God CAN choose not to know ,unless you limit His ability !
---1stcliff on 10/27/14


"Rita, Do you discard the whole newspaper if one article is questionable?
If one columnist errs do you chuck the whole paper?"
---1stcliff on 10/26/14


Cliff: Rita probably would since the whole thing may well be way above her level of reading comprehension.

You seem to be insinuating that sin originated with God Cliff. Is that right?
---Leon on 10/26/14


Leon, it would appear to be YOU who needs some increased knowledge and wisdom because you seem intent on adding to what God has already told us in HIS WORD.

The wisdom that you need is to not tamper with what you have already been told by God. Accept it or reject it but do NOT alter it.
---Rita_H on 10/26/14


Rita, Do you discard the whole newspaper if one article is questionable ?
If one columnist errs do you chuck the whole paper ?
---1stcliff on 10/26/14


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Luke & Rita: I'm certainly not trying to convince either of you of anything. May the Lord bless you two with increased knowledge & wisdom as you endeavor to walk in His likeness. :)
---Leon on 10/26/14


The bible is not a tell all.

On earth, yes it appears that eve's sin was explicitly first. But, what was happening just prior to that?

Sin is what proceeds from my heart. So, doesn't my individual sins precede my explicit actions?

Adam also ate. Who of the two had let sin enter the heart first?

We will never know in this lifetime. The important thing is that Adam (human man and woman) sinned and it proceeds from our heart.
---aka on 10/26/14


Leon 10/23/14 "Since we're discussing Adam's sin, in G1:28 God told A & E to be fruitful & multiply (have children). Is it speculation to think they obeyed God?"

No it is not speculation. God tells us, in His Word, that this is what happened.

If I decided that was mere speculation then I might just as well burn my bible today. If I cannot have faith to believe what is in that book where do I place my faith?

Either the bible IS the Word of God or it is not. I BELIEVE THAT IT IS.
---Rita_H on 10/26/14


Leon,
"foregone conclusions" of sinful man are not biblical. If you were talking about spiritual discernment it would be different, because it is revelation that comes from the Spirit.
But you are arguing "foregone conclusions" and you want them to be correct when the Bible clearly does not teach that A & E had children before they sinned. Not one word. You reached your own conclusion, not the Bibles, that when God said "be fruitful and multiply" they had children right away. Nothing is mention concerning other children before the fall. If God wanted us to know He would have mentioned other children. Normally children are mention even if it is not by name. You have to invent that opinion.
---Luke on 10/26/14


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Cluny, **Only God Himself sees reality as it is ** sounds like psychobabble to me.
You saying that 9/11 was not real?? or WW1 or WW11 ?
---1stcliff on 10/26/14


\\Cliff, it would seem so. \\

To repeat what I said, the way things "seem" to us are not all of reality, since only God Himself sees reality as it is.

An office manager runs things (at least some of them) but does not plan for filing errors or typos.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/25/14


Cluny, good point.
---learner2 on 10/25/14


Luke: You're missing the point completely. For whatever reason, you seem to think a foregone conclusion is the same as an opinion (a theory, a speculation). That's not true!

Again, A FOREGONE CONCLUSION IS: a result that can be determined with certainty (conviction, the quality of being reliably true). Foregone conclusions are based on facts (of the matter), not opinions.

God enables us to use our noodles (minds) to glean (extract, draw out) Bible truths from the pages of Scripture by use of foregone conclusions based upon what has already been written "therein".

Hope this helps! :)
---Leon on 10/25/14


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"Leon, lets suppose [OPINE] as you say, God allows "foregone conclusions" when we read His Word. How do you know which "foregone conclusion" is correct or truth? Yours? Mine, who's? The Catholic church had a 'foregone conclusion' [NO, OPINION] that Jesus died because of the Jews. But their "foregone conclusion" was wrong. Jesus died because of the sins of the world. They were wrong, so they persecuted the Jews. God does not allow each one of us to come out with our own "foregone conclusion."
---Luke on 10/25/14


Luke: You're incorrectly supposing (opining) a foregone conclusion is an opinion.
---Leon on 10/25/14


"...There are scriptural hedges (lockouts) in front of us as noted in scripture. Until...Luke 24:44-...45 'Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures',
Isa 50:5 'The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, I was not rebellious, neither turned away back.'"
---Trav on 10/24/14


I concur Trav. Until God is satisfied with our progress, He's not going to advance us to the next level of understanding. Our talk & walk must be commensurate with Scripture in order to be promoted to higher levels of understanding in the Lord.
---Leon on 10/25/14


Cliff, it would seem so. God runs the universe. Nothing takes Him by surprise.
---learner2 on 10/24/14


\\Despite whoever sinned first, it was all part of God's plan.
---learner2 on 10/24/14\\

To paraphrase C. S. Lewis, seeing someone hit his thumb with a hammer is NOT the same thing as planning for him to do it.

Remember, God lives in eternal NOW.

We experience reality as a succession of events. Some we remember as past, some we experience in the fleeting present, and others we anticipate as future.

But only God Himself sees reality as it really is.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/24/14


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//Luke: Obviously, you don't grasp the difference between "speculations" & "foregone conclusions". You repeatedly fail to apprehend, even comprehend, the basic truth about Scripture design.//

Leon, lets suppose as you say, God allows "foregone conclusions" when we read His Word. How do you know which "foregone conclusion" is correct or truth? Yours? Mine, who's? The Catholic church had a "foregone conclusion" that Jesus died because of the Jews. But their "foregone conclusion" was wrong. Jesus died because of the sins of the world. They were wrong, so they persecuted the Jews. God does not allow each one of us to come out with our own "foregone conclusion."
---Luke on 10/25/14


learner, So God is the author of sin?????? He planned it all???
---1stcliff on 10/24/14


Despite whoever sinned first, it was all part of God's plan.
---learner2 on 10/24/14


The Bible is like a compressed computer file that, when it's open to souls (minds) that meditate upon it daily, expands & yields (reveals) vastly more information .....
---Leon on 10/24/14

Pretty good analogy Leon.
There are scriptural hedges (lockouts) in front of us as noted in scripture. Until...

Luk 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
Luk 24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,
Isa 50:5 The Lord GOD hath opened mine ear, I was not rebellious, neither turned away back.
---Trav on 10/24/14


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Technically speaking Eve sinned first in the direct way, as according to how the Scripture reads in GENESIS 3:6.
But, Adam was considered most responsible not only because he was created first, but, also, because, as the Scripture says in I CORINTHIANS 11:9 that 'woman was created for the man, not man for the woman'.
And, then, to bind those Verses together is GENESIS 2:24. That, Adam and Eve were of "one flesh".
So, Eve sins, it falls back on Adam, as he was one with her in GOD's Eyes.
---Gordon on 10/24/14


Luke: Obviously, you don't grasp the difference between "speculations" & "foregone conclusions". You repeatedly fail to apprehend, even comprehend, the basic truth about Scripture design.

God has equipped us mentally & allows us to be able to draw foregone conclusions from (out of, NOT OUTSIDE OF) the 66 books of the Bible. Otherwise, there might have to be an untold number of books in Bible to explain everything, in minute details, to people like you.

The Bible is like a compressed computer file that, when it's open to souls (minds) that meditate upon it daily, expands & yields (reveals) vastly more information to the discerning student/disciple than is written on its pages.
---Leon on 10/24/14


//SPECULATION: the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.//

Leon, it is speculation to say that Adam and Eve had children before they sinned. No where are we told they did. And to say they did, is to add to Scripture what is not there. Just because God told them to be fruitful and multiply doesn't mean they did multiply before they sinned, we are not told they did. I have an idea that maybe there were children, but I don't have evidence of that.
We should take to heart what is written, not what we think it should be. If you are serious about not speculating, then don't add to Scripture.
---Luke on 10/24/14


Yes Eve.
In a discussion a while back a lady said, where was Adam, maybe to prevent her from partaking of the forbidden fruit?
I said, did Eve have a set mind what she was going to do? Did she think say, oh what does God or Adam know?, she partakes and then causes Adam to fall with her. Even people today has that mind frame.

God Knows All from the beginning.
---Lawrence on 10/23/14


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Since Lucifer (satan's heavenly name) ) decided to challenge God for for human adoration, would seem to indicate that he sinned long before Adam .
God did not prevent satan from his evil intent, why?
If God knew what the outcome would be....then it was not a "test"!
---1stcliff on 10/23/14


It seems that this question is settled now.
---learner2 on 10/23/14


SPECULATION: the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence.

Rita: The word "speculation" gets used a lot on CN blogs. I too believe speculations are misleading & dangerous. But, let's make sure we know what is & what isn't a speculation.

Since we're discussing Adam's sin, in G1:28 God told A & E to be fruitful & multiply (have children). Is it speculation to think they obeyed God & began having children in the Garden or would that be a FOREGONE CONCLUSION (a result that can be determined with certainty) drawn from the pages of Scripture (G3:20, 4:13-14 & 17)?

SPECULATION: Cain & Abel were the first children born to A & E.
---Leon on 10/23/14


Learner: Since Cliff is talking about Adam, I believe in context to his question, he's talking about sin on earth, not in heaven.

Cliff: NO, Adam wasn't the first to sin on earth. I know you're just chomping at the bit, so next question please. :)
---Leon on 10/23/14


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It is not very important to God and ourselves who sinned first.
The importance of Adam's record of sin is for to Learn & Avoid disobeying GOD at any time.
May GOD help us to trust HIM more, depend on Him and end our lives in JESUS.
---Adetunji on 10/23/14


although adam was the first person GOD created.ihave found that GOD comanded adamin chapter2verses16,17 andtold him what fruit he could eatthen. but itwas so different eve was decieved by satin and ate ofthe treethe fruitthat GOD said not to eat
---greg on 10/22/14


Learner 2 - 'I would venture to say that there were certain beings in heaven who sinned before Adam.' We know that Satan did and mislead other angels but, otherwise, it is not for us to speculate about such matters. Cluny is correct about Eve. The bible tells us that so we are meant to know that but what happened prior to that, before the Creation, we just don't need to know. If we did, God would have made it known.

Once we start to speculate we go totally off beam and tangle ourselves up in our thoughts and beliefs.
---Rita_H on 10/23/14


Eve, was the first person to sin. It is biblical. She gave the fruit to Adam and he did eat. The Bible nowhere teaches that there were human beings before Adam and Eve.
---Luke on 10/23/14


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Actually, Eve disobeyed before Adam.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/22/14


Where ... on earth?
---aka on 10/22/14


I would venture to say that there were certain beings in heaven who sinned before Adam.
---learner2 on 10/22/14


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