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Those who are always resisting being lured into sin and repenting when they do sin are the puppets of God. He uses His Spirit to convince you to do His pleasure, and causes you to repent when you have sinned. If you consistently resist sin, your sons and daughters will likely resist sin. Again, the father's obedient human spirit features will pass to his children. This is generational obedience (blessings). Aservant/////////
This was not the case with Cain and Abel. Both having the same father. Many rebellious kings of Israel came from godly obedient kings, and vice versa. There is no such thing as generational obedience.
---kathr4453 on 4/14/15|
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Those who are always resisting being lured into sin and repenting when they do sin are the puppets of God. He uses His Spirit to convince you to do His pleasure, and causes you to repent when you have sinned. If you consistently resist sin, your sons and daughters will likely resist sin. Again, the father's obedient human spirit features will pass to his children. This is generational obedience (blessings).
---aservant on 12/15/14|
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Those who seldom resist being lured to sin are the puppets of Satan. His demons continually lure them into sin after sin. Think about the voices in your mind that try to convince you to do your own pleasure and not do God's pleasure.
Controlling the trunk of the tree, enables control of most of the branches. If one consistently submits to Satan's lure to sin, one's sons and daughters will likely submit to Satan's lures. An abusive father will likley have abusive children. Same with an addict. Same with a sinner. The father's sinful human spirit features will pass to his children, as does his physical features. This is generational sin (curses).
---aservant on 12/15/14|
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Romans 6:16 Don't you know that you are slaves of anyone (or anything) you obey? You can be slaves of (any spirit of) sin and die, or you can be obedient slaves (to the Spirit) of God and be acceptable to him. (CEV)
Satan temped Eve. She believed him, disbelieved God and acted on Satan's word. Satan is now her lord. Eve tempted Adam. He believed her, disbelieved God and acted on Eve's word. Satan is now (via Eve) Adam's lord. Now, for Him to be Lord, Jesus' Blood was required to purchase all selected sinners back from Satan. See Acts 20:28.
---aservant on 12/15/14|
If Eve was still living, she'd prob say, I partook of sin & then passed to Adam. Been going down the line ever since.
---Lawrence on 12/6/14|
Sin is everything short of the Glory and righteousness and Holiness of God. Since we are not GOD, and because of Adams sin which separated man from God, we can never measure up to God's righteousness.
Our old fallen nature of Adam, passed on to all, separated from God is just another way of saying sin.
It's not a thing, a virus, or entity. It's just the sphere of life we live in and are attached to....a fallen world.
When we die with Christ we die TO SIN, sin itself does not die. What is dying is our old man.
---kathr4453 on 11/13/14|
Samuelbb7, Sorry but entity is defined as a "thing" and it does exist ' "It" is the reason we die !
Genetically passed on from Adam ,was the reason Christ gave His life so that those believers would not inherit eternal death but eternal life !
---1stcliff on 11/12/14|
Sin is not an entity. It does not exist like Satan does.
It is part of being human. We are born selfish and have to be trained to care and love others.
---Samuelbb7 on 11/12/14|
HOW IS SIN passed from generation to generation seeing that it is an intangible entity or to any other creation?
---1stcliff on 11/3/14
Through our knowledge of Good and Evil.
Look at the Genesis story. As soon as Adam and Eve had eaten, they knew they were naked and were afraid of God. Before, they were naked and unafraid and Adam walked with God.
With this knowledge, we determine what is good and evil and do not trust God to determine what is good and evil. What God says is evil, we say is good and what God says is good, we say is evil.
---Mark_Eaton on 11/12/14|
"HOW IS SIN passed from generation to generation seeing that it is an intangible entity or to any other creation?"
Simple! If your great grands were unrepentant sinners, in the sight of God, who by their unrepentant example taught your grands to be like them, who in turn taught your parents no differently, then there you are "unrepentant, rebellious sinner, the next generation" infecting your children with the ways of hell.
Sin, like an infectious, airborne virus, that is a spirit of death. Early symptoms are self delusion (pride) & self-satisfaction (lust). From there it's a down hill slide into all manner or hellish acts before death devours the soul forever.
---Leon on 11/12/14|
1st Cliff thank you for your response. As for your question, my answer would simply echo Scott1's. We as finite humans will at times error in our thinking, and those thoughts, if unchecked, will lead to errant actions. Truth reveals those errors, and when that truth is embraced, error is dispelled, and no longer finds a place within those who embrace that revealed truth and repents. For with true repentance, (a true and sincere change of mind), there is reformation, (a corresponding change of attitude and action). However the repentance that saves is an empowered turn from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of our Father's dear Son. From unbelief to belief, for the only sin that now condemn the world is unbelief.
---joseph on 11/11/14|
//Why would Jesus teach us prayer like "forgive us our trespasses " when we are already forgiven ? (through Christ's death) "as we forgive those that trespass against us"//
The purpose of the saying to "daily forgive us our trespasses" is to give us a spirit of humility. Jesus's death paid for all of our sins both past, present, and future, both knowing and unknowing sins at the time of conversion. This is called justification, Romans 5:1. However there is also santification, this is where the Lord's prayer comes in to remind us of our weakness and our daily need of his strength and favor. Not that we must be free from sin, but to return our eyes to God and his everlasting love.
---Scott1 on 11/11/14|
14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same, that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil,
15 And deliver them who through fear of death were all their lifetime subject to bondage.
16 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham.
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
---kathr4453 on 11/11/14|
Joseph, It's Adamic sin that brought death to mankind.
Why would Jesus teach us prayer like "forgive us our trespasses " when we are already forgiven ? (through Christ's death) "as we forgive those that trespass against us"
gives us the power to forgive !Obviously we can forgive sins against us !!
---1stcliff on 11/10/14|
Some teach the doctrine of "Original Sin".
Psalm 51:5 Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.
Genesis 6:5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time.
---sin5694 on 11/10/14|
John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
Heb 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God,
John 3:17-18 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
---micha9344 on 11/10/14|
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There's much confusion on here as to just which "sin" Jesus gave His life for!
---1stcliff on 11/8/14
Sin. Law. Redeem/ed. A few of many verses.
Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
Rom 4:15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
Gal_4:5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Psa_130:8 he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
Zec_10:8 I will hiss for them, and gather them, for I have redeemed them: they shall increase as they have increased.
Luk_1:68 Blessed be the Lord God of Israel, for he hath visited and redeemed his people,
---Trav on 11/10/14|
"The sin of Adam is the one sin Christ died to remove,.." 1stcliff on 11/9/14
1stcliff what is this "sin of Adam" that you speak of? How does it differ from any other sin of man, or disobedience concerning any of the Father's commandments? 1stcliff I am not being facetious. I am simply seeking to understand your view and it's basis.
---joseph on 11/10/14|
Cliff, nowhere have I stated that Jesus has 'taken away sin'. Sin will always be with us because Satan is still active (and will be until Christ returns). I said that He died to take the PUNISHMENT for us. That is why we say that HE DIED IN OUR PLACE. For those who have accepted the GIFT of Salvation our punishment has been taken by Him and we are not to insult that Gift by wilfully sinning now. Those who don't accept the Gift offered still live with the knowledge that they will, one day, pay the price for their own unrepented sins.
---Rita_H on 11/10/14|
Rita, The sin of Adam is the one sin Christ died to remove, which He has for all those that accept Him.
OTOH The world is full of people sinning every minute, so Christ has not "Taken away the SINS of the world " has He?
Even the "Lord's prayer" goes "Forgive us our trespasses" etc. A daily prayer...right?
---1stcliff on 11/9/14|
I believe that Christ died to save us from the punishment due to us for EVERY sin we commit - not one specific form of sinning.
Nowhere in the bible is there anything I can think of which points to one specific sin being what He died for. We are to be scrupulous in our lives, in our dealings with others, in the temptations we face for the little things as well as the big things. We WILL fail Him - over and over again - but we must go to Him for forgiveness again.
Repentance is not a one-off duty for us to perform because sin itself is not a one-off incident.
---Rita_H on 11/9/14|
Cliff, DEATH passed to all man. Therefore all men are dead. In Adam ALL die. It's this standing in death, which is impossible for any man to reverse, that Jesus died and rose again so that we can be given LIFE in Him alone. Romans 5- 8 explain perfectly. SIN is just another name for our old Adam. SIN and DEATH here mean the same thing.
Also read 1st Corinthians 15. And Hebrews 2. That is IF you really are seeking truth.
---kathr4453 on 11/9/14|
There's much confusion on here as to just which "sin" Jesus gave His life for !
The sin of Adam's disobedience caused death to fall on all humans, This is the SIN Christ ransomed us from.
Robbery,assault, lust, fornication etc. etc. are sins of a daily nature that require forgiveness per offence. These were not removed by Christ's death !
"Behold the Lamb of God that takes away the SIN (singular) of the world "
Adamic sin !
---1stcliff on 11/8/14|
Sin did not passed from man to man, condemnation unto death because of sin, did.>Rom. 5:12 At one time the iniquity of the father was borne by the son.>Lam5:7 However, there came a time when it was determined that this was not to be.>Jer. 31:29,30 Yet scripture has "concluded all under sin, that the promise, by [the] faith of Jesus Christ, might be given to them that believe.">Gal 3:22 "For [Father] made Him to be sin for us, who knew no sin, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him." 2Co 5:21 Bottomline: Jesus bore "our sins in his own body on the [cross]." >1Pe 2:24 Therefore it is for His chosen to look to or "Behold [Him], the Lamb of God, [who took] away the sin of the world.">Jhn 1:29
---Josef on 11/7/14|
God commanded man(adam) to "fill the ("land","country")(eretz)" (Gen 1:28).
the land was given to Abraham, who had many children...
---micha9344 on 11/6/14
You've shown the lineage following one family.
If one applies the logical choices for the word "erets" it starts connecting logically/spiritually as it should. Bible states from beginning it is about one familiy. Through every book, to Revelations end. Seems excluding, until one remembers GOD is the maker, chooser, and the people are a servant/wife sheep people.
Christian West USA our highest offices are still termed "public servants".
Gen 10:5 By these were the isles of the "Goyim" divided
---Trav on 11/6/14|
God commanded man(adam) to "fill the Earth(eretz)" (Gen 1:28).
They chose not to do so. (Gen 11:4)
So God scattered them. Gen 11:9
They were scattered by nation. Gen 10:5,20,31.
Just as Gen 1 is a summary and some details were elaborated in Gen 2 (man and having dominion),
Gen 10 is the summary and details are elaborated in Gen 11:1-9 (man and filling the Earth).
We know the event at Babel happened between the genealogies in Gen 10.
This is the same for Gen 2, we know this happened on day 6 by the witnesses, God telling Moses and Jesus verifying.
Remember, the land was given to Abraham, who had many children, yet only one promised seed thru which Israel came.
---micha9344 on 11/6/14|
Adetunji, The question was addressed to Warwick ,and others of a similar belief that all creatures were vegetarian and none died until Adam sinned !
---1stcliff on 11/6/14|
Gen 5:1 This [is] the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God...
---micha9344 on 11/5/14
Book of the Generations of Adam.
Deu_32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
Genesis Gen 1:29 God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,...fruit of a tree yielding seed, to you it shall be for meat.
Tiller of ground:
Gen_2:5 ...there was not a man to till the ground.
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man became a living soul.
---Trav on 11/6/14|
1stcliff: //Perhaps you could explain how sin was passed on to birds,fish and land creatures !!!//
Birds and animals are still sinless, they did not eat the forbidden fruit.
Evidence that they are sinless is the fact that
(1) they do not seek extra knowledge than given by God (unlike men).
(2) they have no bank, they use their God given skills to get their meal for the instant and are contented.
---Adetunji on 11/6/14|
Gen 5:1 This [is] the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man (Heb. Adam), in the likeness of God made he him,
Gen 1:27 So God created man(Heb, Adam) in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.
Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them, and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
---micha9344 on 11/5/14|
HOW IS SIN passed from generation to generation ...
---1stcliff on 11/3/14
First law, don't eat of the tree of life. Afterwards they had knowledge of good and evil. Only Adam and Eve had this first law.
Gen 1 male female didn't, they were told to fill(replenish) the earth. Gatherers of herbs,fruit trees. They were never given the first law.
Rom 2:12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: ...
1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
---Trav on 11/5/14|
Warwick, Your belief is that no creature died before sin.
Perhaps you could explain how sin was passed on to birds,fish and land creatures !!!
---1stcliff on 11/4/14|
intangible=incapable of being perceived by touch.
look it up also entity
---1stcliff on 11/4/14|
1Jo 2:15-17 Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that [is] in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
Jam 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.
Luke 22:42 Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.
---micha9344 on 11/4/14|
One definition of sin is to miss the mark. Missing the mark or the point can be passed in behavior and/or in environment.
Habitual Lying (white lies) is a good example. Gossip, gluttony,sexual deviance,incest,sexual promiscuity, heresies, perversion...etc
Many will argue genetics.
---aka on 11/3/14|
How is sin intangible, and how is sin an entity?
---learner2 on 11/3/14|
Sin is transgression of the law, 1John 3:4
Christians cannot be charged with this sin as we're NOT under the law, Rom 8:2, Rom 10:4, Gal 3:25, Gal 5:18.
Whatever the law says it says to those under it, Rom 3:19.
Sin is unrighteousness, 1John 5:17.
Christians cannot be charged with this sin as our faith is counted for righteousness, Rom 4:5.
Who shall lay ANY THING (this includes sin) to the charge of God's elect?, Rom 8:33
Unbelief in Jesus is the sin the world is convicted of, John 16:9.
We're in Christ and in him there's no sin. We cannot sin 1John 3:9, we've ceased from sin, 1Pet 4:1.
Jesus truly set us free from sin, John 8:36.
---Haz27 on 11/4/14|
Sin is passed from one generation to the next by not teaching our children the right way to go.
---Steveng on 11/3/14|
Cluny, Can you define "sin"?
---1stcliff on 11/3/14|
A better question to ask would be how to git rid of sin and avoid it in the future.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/3/14|