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Who Are Adam And Eve

Based solely upon what they verbally say in Genesis and what the Bible says about them, can you flesh out the characteristics of Adam and Eve that are common in each of us today?

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Not really wishing to state the obvious but, without physically reading what is posted here, I cannot see what is being said.
---Rita_H on 12/10/14

It's more than obvious...understanding you and Leon read and dwell in these posts or you wouldn't make negative comments or threats of leaving. A form of controlling.
In making judgements you're involved, what you wanted to begin with.
If you're going to play in the play ground, bring some scripture...edify those that can be.
You be mercy, I'll be ... or vice versa.
Psa_85:10 Mercy and truth are met together, righteousness and peace have kissed each other.
Psa_25:10 All the paths of the LORD are mercy and truth unto such as keep his covenant and his testimonies.
---Trav on 12/10/14


Trav,
"Scripture does make a travesty of your teaching." Where exactly?
---Warwick on 12/9/14br>

Didn't apologize twice. "Your" turn by "your" measure.
Poser mark 1, non discerning you appeal to Shorter vs sripture.
Clouded scriptures? Hmmm, preacher/teacher poser mark 2.
Teacher of "All" truth...will/can utilize "all" scripture...you rarely use any, Poser mark 3.
Scriptures I've posted are clear, witnessed...you flee, 4th wolf mark.
I've never assumed or presumed of non Israel, only pointing what scripture says to Israel. You rail in this regard, showing Israel offends you, poser mark 5 .
Davids, declarations you divert to ignore. Poser combo pk 2-5.
---Trav on 12/10/14


".....can't help noticing that you and Leon don't resist visiting the "miry" post that bother you. I just don't read some post."(Trav)

Not really wishing to state the obvious but, without physically reading what is posted here, I cannot see what is being said. Many contributions I begin to read but don't reach the end because certain words and attempts to create arguments leave me not wishing to partake further.
---Rita_H on 12/10/14


Trav, your mistake and apology accepted.

"Scripture does make a travesty of your teaching." Where exactly?

Though your meanings are somewhat clouded it appears you believe those not of Israel or Judah are ineligible to be saved by Jesus' sacrifice. To make a distinction between Israel and Judah is Biblical but has no meaning today. A Jew is defined as: "One of the Hebrew or Jewish people, or one who professes Judaism. (orig) A Hebrew of the Kingdom of Judah, later any Israelite who adhered to the worship of Jehovah as conducted at Jerusalem." Shorter Oxford Dictionary.

But let me be clear: as I am not of Judah or Israel did Jesus die and rise again that I may also be saved?
---Warwick on 12/9/14


...many in the world today (some on these blogs, like Trav) try to cover up their sin by hiding in the darkness, of their vile deeds, from God.
---Leon on 12/9/14

Hey you're back! Becoming regular, mud wrestler and accuser.
Just couldn't resist the sinful muck and vile deed mire...you've dove in head first. Got get some of that vile sin on ya white suit there...careful.

Not gonna be any pearls for you in here in the pool this time Leon. Have the pit all to your self, Goggles? Believe I'll keep them closer.

Mat_7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

Ouch!
---Trav on 12/9/14




"...some don't even desire to get on with others. They come purely to cause arguments. We probably all have enough of those in our day to day lives without being drawn into others here which are just dragging this site down into the mire. It's sad."
---Rita_H on 12/9/14

Yes Rita, like Adam & Eve after their fall from grace, many in the world today (some on these blogs, like Trav) try to cover up their sin by hiding in the darkness, of their vile deeds, from God. Obviously, no one in their right mind would seriously think they could hide from God. Go "fig"ure, it just doesn't add up!
---Leon on 12/9/14


They come purely to cause arguments.
... just dragging this site down into the mire. It's sad.
---Rita_H on 12/9/14

Think you're great ms Rita but, can't help noticing that you and Leon don't resist visiting the "miry" post that bother you. I just don't read some post.
For my part, scripture has chased a wolf preacher poser for several years. Eeee's a wily braggert, wearing a sheeps coat. But, he can't speak sheep.
When a wolf is operating...whoever has sword of scripture and spirit willing should respond.
Joh_10:12 But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: the wolf catcheth them, scattereth the sheep.
---Trav on 12/9/14


"...some don't even desire to get on with others. They come purely to cause arguments. We probably all have enough of those in our day to day lives without being drawn into others here which are just dragging this site down into the mire. It's sad."
---Rita_H on 12/9/14


Yes Rita. Like fallen Adam & Eve & descendants, today's lost humanity yet frolics in the muck & mire of sin. On observing the way this blog is progressing, it's apparent many here absolutely love to grunt, snort & squeal while wallowing in their own unholy filth.
---Leon on 12/9/14


Should "we" not expose, and contradict his error to help them?
---Warwick on 12/8/14

We? You need publics help?

My scripture doesn't. You'll not find many if any foolish enough to go against scriptural prophets.
Fight David,...brave one.
Psa_105:10 confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
Psa_111:5 He hath given meat unto them that fear him: he will ever be mindful of his covenant.
Isa 59:21 As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD, My spirit that is upon thee, my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, henceforth and for ever.
---Trav on 12/9/14


Trav, short for Travesty?
I have no fear of what you call 'prophets'...
...you claim only Jews can be saved ...
---Warwick on 12/8/14

Travesty? Scripture does make a travesty of your teaching.
My mistake was honest the apology as well.
Have never made your claim about the Judah. Your confusion is Judah equals all Israel. Common among preacher-posers today. Note a word called "and". Here is light on it.
Heb_8:8 ...I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel "and" with the house of Judah:
Pretty foolish not to fear distorting Prophets or scripture. In your previous ignorance might be found grace. Scriptures posted have made you aware though.
2Pe 3:2 That ye may be mindful...
---Trav on 12/9/14




Consider Trav, ...Should we not expose, and contradict his error to help them?
---Warwick on 12/8/14

Lets consider Trav. Expose the exposed. A man. A sinner. Who does not shrink or divert Truth. Living 40 frustrating years before someone pointed out defining scriptures that never get discussed by wolves in pulpits. Or just the ignorant in pulpits. One life one soul. Some prefer milk or lies...some crave meat or Truth. I'll die joyfully, satisfied in and by scriptural Truth, verified per GOD's scriptural witnesses.
We all pass...will it be with or without truth.
I asked my father for bread...he did not give me a stone.
Mat_7:9 Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
---Trav on 12/9/14


Rita, if you think this is a battle ground read Scripture. There we see fierce battling for the truth. "I wish that those who are upsetting you would castrate themselves!" Galatians 5:12 ISV

Has anyone used such blunt language here?

Maybe you think we should all just be nice to one another, that niceness is more important than truth? Consider Trav, he claims that only Jews can be saved by Jesus' sacrifice. He is saying that you, for example, if not Jewish are not saved! Now if strong in your faith this may not bother you, but let us be considerate towards our weaker brethren who may be disturbed by this claim. Should we not expose, and contradict his error to help them?

See also Luke 17:2.
---Warwick on 12/8/14


Aka <--- whispering

Shhhhh...

a good audience makes a comedian good.

Sorry about your family.

Sometimes the body of christ looks like the bride of Frankenstein. Fortunately, the savior sees through God colored glasses.

May your family be blessed and get to be with you soon.
---aka on 12/9/14


Thanks aka and Elena. I appreciate the support but, seriously, feel that some don't even desire to get on with others. They come purely to cause arguments. We probably all have enough of those in our day to day lives without being drawn into others here which are just dragging this site down into the mire. It's sad.
---Rita_H on 12/9/14


Aka you always make me laugh!!
I needed a laugh I been crying all day miss my family..ha ha thankyou!!
Rita you are a precious, you are special.God has to help people like myself...
Bro.Adetunji, another voice of wisdom.All respect our brother.
I am.just a one be praying, we can all get a long, serve God, grow in him.
Love of Jesus!
---Elena_9555 on 12/8/14


Trav, short for Travesty?

You have a record of deceit so I doubted the sincerity of your mistake and apology. If it was genuine I happily accept it.

As you know I do not work for CMI or anyone: don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

I have no fear of what you call 'prophets' or of the word of God. Likewise I have no fear of your Travesty of Scripture. You are an hypocrite insisting we should believe those Scriptures you deign to believe while rejecting the plain meaning of other Scriptures.

Fortunately you are not my judge.

Do readers of your mutterings and prognostications understand you claim only Jews can be saved by Jesus' sacrifice?
---Warwick on 12/8/14


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Pssst...rita. snuck in here to help. Stay low...back out slowly.
---aka on 12/8/14


Has this, once good, question and answer site been downgraded to a battleground?

I find myself wanting to come here less and less as each week passes.
---Rita_H on 12/8/14


Learner, you brought up the idea that the two genealogies contradict one another. I have shown you they don't but no comment from you.

I have pointed out that they are two different genealogies, one coming via Nathan's line, the other via Solomon. I have asked you to accept that this is what Scripture says, and given you more than sufficient time to answer. However you have avoided doing so as an honest answer would show you wrong.
---Warwick on 12/8/14


Trav blames Warwick ~ Warwick blames Trav, etc., etc. It's incredible how unchecked sin rages.
---Leon on 12/8/14

Ha. Leons lil fire hose. Turn it on, it's dripping.
We can't blame poor warwick. His (cmi)employee doctrines get in the way of search and find.
He can blame me...for scripture eating all his boast. Love spending time with him...he posing as an authority, teacher, preacher. If he's gonna walk the talk he'll need a few prophets. Eeee's starved for these witnesses backing him. He "billibongs" from any "sheep" scripture. Eeee's a hard bludger to crack...Lord will have to crack eem, prophets can't.
Joh_10:13 The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
---Trav on 12/8/14


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Adam blamed God & Eve ~ Eve blamed the devil ~ Trav blames Warwick ~ Warwick blames Trav, etc., etc. It's incredible how unchecked sin rages, like hellfire, out of control.
---Leon on 12/8/14


Trav, ...I think it was just another of your convenient lies.
Again you distort the truth.
BTW it should be 'you're' sounding not "your."
---Warwick on 12/6/14

We're gonna stop here and address you calling me a liar. In error mistook you for Leon and apologized.
We've seen your spelling errors also (ha, who really cares, idgit) in reference to you boasting as the most perfect infidel.
Pro_12:17 He that speaketh truth sheweth forth righteousness: but a false witness deceit.
Pro_12:19 The lip of truth shall be established for ever: but a lying tongue is but for a moment.
Ecc_12:10 The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: that which was written was upright, even words of truth.
---Trav on 12/8/14


Trav, you now say it was not me who claimed Learner has a "split personality." I think it was just another of your convenient lies.

Again you distort the truth. It is not that Learner is sceptical of my beliefs (he is welcome to be so) but is Sceptical of Scripture as written. Even you should comprehend the difference. To see if you are sceptical of Scripture I will ask you:

Does the Matthew genealogy extend via King David's son Solomon. And does the Luke genealogy extend through King David's son Nathan? It is a yes or no question?

I am sure anyone can see that the question does not refer to belief but to fact.

BTW it should be 'you're' sounding not "your." Common mistake.
---Warwick on 12/6/14


Trav, It is a blatant lie to say I said Learner had "a split personality." Be a man and admit your lie! I won't hold my breath.

I called him a BiblioSceptic because he is sceptical...
---Warwick on 12/6/14

For once you are almost correct. It was Leon who said Split personality and Waffler.
Apologize for this mistake. Your sounding more like Leon. Which would be good...for you. He studies.
Please hold your breath,...you might break some links in your Chain-Mail armor.
Learner may be Skeptical of your Bible understanding. He should be, it doesn't reference any prophets or have "collective" logic. But, then it couldn't, foundationed on, less ignorant men's opinon's or doctrines.
---Trav on 12/6/14


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Trav, It is a blatant lie to say I said Learner had "a split personality." I wrote "Learner, how similar are you to 'Atheist.' Neither of you understand the concept of Truth as opposed to opinions." Be a man and admit your lie! I won't hold my breath.

I called him a BiblioSceptic because he is sceptical about much in the Bible. He made a fuss about what he saw as a contradiction between the genealogies of Mark and Luke. I pointed out that the were different genealogies one coming via Solomon and the other through Nathan. That is a fact as a reading will show. However he will not admit that fact.

And what are these "ad hominem" compliments of which you speak? More of your usual bile?
---Warwick on 12/6/14


Trav, I would have thought that having complimented Learner upon his choice of Creed it could be taken that I agree with it. No?
---Warwick on 12/4/14

First you call him a split personality a waffler and, BiblioSceptic.
It was just funny when he "gob smacked" you with his creed.
So now you are apologizing publicly for the other "ad hominem" compliments?
Or is it my turn for noticing?
---Trav on 12/5/14


disobedience,
---Eno_Asuquo on 12/5/14


Yes, Eno Asuquo. "Disobedience" is the failure or refusal to obey rules. We can see that in the lives of Adam & Eve, all the way throughout the Bible & in the daily lives of people today, all over the world. Also, Christianet blogs overflow with disobedient people.
---Leon on 12/5/14


disobedience,
---Eno_Asuquo on 12/5/14


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Trav, I would have thought that having complimented Learner upon his choice of Creed it could be taken that I agree with it. No?

"I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord," too clear for you to comprehend I suppose?
---Warwick on 12/4/14


Trav, the true seeker searches, asks questions and considers. They by definition have an open mind. Can you quote anything which learner has written which shows and open mind?
---Warwick on 12/3/14

Learner humble name is his state of mind.
The fact that you are I haven't answered his questions is not his fault. For my part if scripture does not talk to him...it is either the wrong time or was presented poorly by me. For your part you imagining you are some kind of authority is turn off. You put a wee bit o honey on the table then smash any who come for a taste. Weird but, found in preachers. Sheep are not your gig.
Questionable, doctrine is and defending doctrinal flaws is what blows your "ego" balloon up.
---Trav on 12/4/14


Having been brought up Anglican I know that creed well and believe it is an excellent statement of belief.
---Warwick on 12/4/14

Yeah he shut you down.
You diverted anglican not answering his question...mr yes-no.
You could ask: Jesus who came for the sheep? Or another.
Eze_34:6 ...my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
Eze_34:11 For thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.
Mat_9:36 But when he saw the multitudes, he was moved with compassion on them, because they fainted, and were scattered abroad, as sheep having no shepherd.
---Trav on 12/4/14


Learner, maybe you will agree with me that you are somewhat of a BiblioSceptic. Therefore I wondered if you were also sceptical about the Lord Jesus Christ. I can now see that you are not one of them but some sceptics have written about Jesus, not the Lord Jesus Christ whom we serve.

Having been brought up Anglican I know that creed well and believe it is an excellent statement of belief.
---Warwick on 12/4/14


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Learner sounds like a split personality that's waffling back & forth, halt between two opinions. Many professing Christians (perhaps in name only) today are also halting between two opinions. They pretend to worship the God of the Bible while also worshiping the gods of the heathen at the same time.

That's the way it was also with Adam & Eve. Sin caused them to characteristically waffle, back n forth, from one mindset (attitude) to another. So it is with religious humanity today, raising/praising hell mostly every day (at least six days a week) & practicing religion (going to their religious activity center, church) on one.
---Leon on 12/4/14


Warwick, unless I am mistaken, there is only one Jesus, who is the son of God, died for our sins, rose from the dead, and will come to judge the living and the dead. Which Jesus do you believe in?
---learner2 on 12/3/14


I believe in God, the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son Our Lord,
Who was conceived by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
He descended into Hell, the third day He rose again from the dead,
He ascended into Heaven, and sitteth at the right hand of God, the Father almighty, from thence He shall come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body and life everlasting.
Amen.
---learner2 on 12/3/14


Learner, which Jesus is your Saviour?
---Warwick on 12/3/14


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Trav, the true seeker searches, asks questions and considers. They by definition have an open mind. Can you quote anything which learner has written which shows and open mind? I think this is also a yes or no question!
---Warwick on 12/3/14


I'm not atheist. Jesus is my Saviour.
---learner2 on 12/3/14


Trav, I see no suggestion that either Atheist or Learner are searching.
I agree yes or no questions can be offensive, but only to those who work to evade the truth.
---Warwick on 12/3/14

Well, sometimes when winning we lose.
The fact that they are here may mean they have doubts or are super confident about their logic. Why else would they visit and provoke/test the strength of our illogical faith.
Were you agnostic and evolutionist one time?
Even the hand picked don't see immediately.
Luk_24:45 Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures.
One rarely answers Yes/No. Getting nothing is not a win.
---Trav on 12/3/14


Trav, I see no suggestion that either Atheist or Learner are searching.

I agree yes or no questions can be offensive, but only to those who work to evade the truth. That the Matthew genealogy comes via David's son Solomon and that the Mark genealogy comes via Nathan is a verifiable fact. Therefore opinion does not come into it. Therefore yes or no is the correct question.

My friends would be amused, even have a good laugh, if I was to tell them someone thinks I am legalistic!
---Warwick on 12/3/14


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Learner, how similar are you to 'Atheist.'
---Warwick on 12/2/14

Some similarities. This might be "atheist". Hope it is, wondered about him from time to time.
Rather glad he's still searching if so. And under a "great name". Think he posted one time that his father was a preacher.
On another note...your "yes" and "no" questions are usually offensive. They appear to be submitted by you in a superior legalistic attitude in the sense of say... Judge and defendant.
You may not care, (although cmi might) just thought you might appreciate some helpful feed back.
Do you agree? Yes or no.
(Example only...reply or defense is unnecessary)
---Trav on 12/3/14


Learner, how similar are you to 'Atheist.' Neither of you understand the concept of Truth as opposed to opinions...---Warwick on 12/2/14

Then Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" "My name is Legion," he replied, "for we are many." (Mark 5:9, NIV)
---Leon on 12/3/14


Learner, how similar are you to 'Atheist.' Neither of you understand the concept of Truth as opposed to opinions.

Cut the waffle and tell me whether the Matthew genealogy continues via David's son Nathan and the Luke version continues from David's son Solomon?

This is a yes or no question.
---Warwick on 12/2/14


Warwick, it is obvious to you and that is what matters to you. I am okay with that.

Leon, I am sorry you are sad. One can always find a prooftext to throw at somebody. I am okay with that too.
---learner2 on 12/2/14


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...[you're],speculating. A good deal of scriptural exegesis is speculation. You...read scripture as it makes sense to you & allow me to read scripture as it makes sense to me. [There's] no final authority when it comes to interpreting Scripture. [We're] on our own.
---learner2 on 12/2/14


Learner: That's a very sad commentary. You remind me of what Scripture says about people who are always "learning" but, because of their biases, aren't able to know Truth. (2 Tim. 3:7)

Exegesis: is Spirit led critical explanation or interpretation of the Bible. Eisegesis: is twisting Scripture to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas, or personal biases. That's what you do to no avail. God is not mocked!
---Leon on 12/2/14


Learner I can see you are having trouble with the details so I will simplify things for you:

In the Mark genealogy does not the line split at David, this line continuing via Solomon?

In Luke does not the line split at David, continuing via Nathan?

Yes. No speculation there.

These two lines therefore cannot both be the direct line of Joseph. Surely that is a given.
---Warwick on 12/2/14


Warwick, you are speculating. A good deal of scriptural exegesis is speculation. You must continue to read scripture as it makes sense to you and allow me to read scripture as it makes sense to me. There is no final authority when it comes to interpreting Scripture. We are on our own.
---learner2 on 12/2/14


Learner, instead of trudging ahead with your lifeless Biblical scepticism you should have read what has been written. The genealogy in Luke begins with King David's son Nathan and is the line of Mary. Heli is Mary's birth father and also Joseph's father by marriage.

The genealogy in Matthew is Joseph's line from Solomon another of David's sons, his birth father being Jacob.

The contradictions exist only in your fevered scepticism. You just want there to be a contradiction.
---Warwick on 12/1/14


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Warwick, it is a perennial favorite because it indeed points out a contradiction. You are just playing guessing games. Mary is not mentioned at all in the genealogies.
---learner2 on 12/1/14


Leon wrote: "Steveng & Cluny: Why don't you guys go outside of this blog & roll around in the dirt of your petty little argument. This blog isn't about a pope or any other religious dope."

All I did was ask a simple question having a simple reply as in any conversation or blog. I couldn't very well start another blog with such a question, could I? If it wasn't this blog, it would have been another. I seems Cluny turns every post from a mole hill into a mountain.
---Steveng on 12/1/14


/I'd like to think they did since it's hard for two to tango when they're mad.\-Leon on 12/1/14
That was the day Cain was conceived. :)
Making up (reconciling) is the best part of a disagreement.
---micha9344 on 12/1/14


Leon, I'm not sure what you are asking me, or why.

Warwick...in Matthew Joseph's father's name is Jacob, but in Luke Joseph's father's name is Heli.---learner2 on 11/30/14


Learner: I think you exist the same as Adam & Eve did. However, it seems you're "really" pretending to be a learner.

You claim to be a learner, but you sure do make grandiose professorial statements. Seems like, instead of really wanting to learn you're trying to disprove the Bible. Why? Many before you have tried in vain & died. What makes you any different?

FYI, Mary's husband Joseph's birth father was Jacob. What you fail to understand is Heli was Mary's birth father & thereby Joseph's "FATHER INLAW".
---Leon on 11/30/14


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Steveng & Cluny: Why don't you guys go outside of this blog & roll around in the dirt of your petty little argument. This blog isn't about a pope or any other religious dope.

All is forgiven Aka. I wonder did Adam ever forgive Eve for her foolishness & did Eve forgive Adam for blaming her for their predicament? I'd like to think they did since it's hard for two to tango when they're mad. :)
---Leon on 12/1/14


\\Cluny, every worldly denominational "church" has a supreme world leader. So let me ask you again: who is the absolute WORLD leader of your denominational "church?\\

I've already answered this question.

Orthodoxy simply doesn't have that of which you either speak or seek.

Therefore, according to your OWN description, Orthodoxy is not a worldly denominational church.

Now, you answer my question, which you never did.

Who id the head of the worldly denominational "church" of Steveng?

Who is responsible for keeping YOU in line?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/1/14


Learner, the supposed conflict of the genealogies is a perennial favourite of the antiChristian sites.

There are a few ways of looking at it but as far as I know the genealogy in Luke is that of Mary via Nathan, son of King David, with Joseph spliced in (Luke 3:23 "He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph") because he adopted Jesus as his son. Therefore no one in that list (other than King David of course) is in Joseph's line.

Conversely the genealogy in Matthew is actually Joseph's line from King David's son Solomon. Therefore as Jesus' is called David's son (i.e. descendant) both Mary and Joseph are, by descent in the Messiah's line.
---Warwick on 12/1/14


Cluny, every worldly denominational "church" has a supreme world leader. So let me ask you again: who is the absolute WORLD leader of your denominational "church?" What worldly leader keeps all the bishops from detouring from the orthodox canons? Who brings together the counsils if there is a disagreement among the bishops?
---Steveng on 11/30/14


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Leon, I'm not sure what you are asking me, or why.

Warwick, for starters, in Matthew Joseph's father's name is Jacob, but in Luke Joseph's father's name is Heli.
---learner2 on 11/30/14


Learner, the NT genealogies are trustworthy. If you say they contradict each other please show where and why?
---Warwick on 11/30/14


The genealogies in the Gospels are not trustworthy, since they contradict each other.
---learner2 on 11/30/14


Were Adam and Eve literal people?---learner2 on 11/29/14

Are you for real?! :)
---Leon on 11/30/14


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\\Cluny, who is the absolute world leader of your denominational "church?"
---Steveng on 11/30/14\\

Our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ!

OTOH, If you're asking if there is an Orthodox equivalent of the pope, there is not.

Who is the absolute world leader of your worldly denominational "church" of Steveng?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/30/14


Cluny, who is the absolute world leader of your denominational "church?"
---Steveng on 11/30/14


"Joseph: Your over thinking the question."
No. I am not. Leon, I addressed the question with my first response. The exposition was for the benefit of another. The note to you was because I realize you seek to control the responses to your inquiries, I suppose as an attempt to keep respondents on point, nothing more.
---joseph on 11/29/14


"Were Adam and Eve literal people?"
Learner, If they where not, than neither was Jesus, whose lineage is biblically traced back to Adam. "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed ) the son of Joseph.......Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God. Luke 3:23-38
---Josef on 11/29/14


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Learner2...to some yes, to others no.

Leon...it was from some past posts. But considering your current response to my ribbing (get it : -), things may seem to be changing. Please forgive me.
---aka on 11/29/14


Were Adam and Eve literal people?
---learner2 on 11/29/14


Joseph: Your over thinking the question.

Aka: I don't know how you came to that bizarre conclusion.
---Leon on 11/29/14


Leon I realize that this is your blog. I was asked to expound upon what I posted here. Please Indulge me:o).
The lust of the flesh is that part of man's character still focused on the externals of life, passionately desiring the adornments of this sensually based system in which we live, that entice and seduce the senses. The lust of the eyes is focusing on and/or envying that which is perceived to be someone else's to possess. The pride of life is self-confident boasting of one's livelihood, or that which one believes to be one's own accomplishments concerning one's present state of existence. Whatever one's focus is centered or fixed on, is what becomes the God of their reality. For man in general, his focus is innately upon himself.
---joseph on 11/28/14


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//subjectively dialoguing with the devil, etc.//

---Leonon 11/28/14 Genesis 3:6 ESV

So when the woman saw that the tree..., she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate.

Mysogeny r Us (subsidiary of the Hee-Men Wombman Haters Club)
---aka on 11/28/14


Here's a bit of what I'm looking for: God gave (equipped) Adam with gardening skills (G2:15). Adam had an objectively analytical mind (G2:19-20,23). The very first thing Eve is seen doing in the Bible is food shopping & subjectively dialoguing with the devil, etc.
---Leon on 11/28/14


All the attributes both positive and negative of humans (whether physical, moral, mental, or spiritual) have not changed since the beginning especially when it comes to not obeying God. You'll find all these attributes acted upon throughout the whole bible. The negative attributes can be rectified by asking God for forgiveness.
---Steveng on 11/28/14


Are you talking about physical, moral, mental, or spiritual characteristics, Leon?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/27/14


Good question Cluny. Probably the best way I know how to answer you (or anyone else here) is to encourage you to look at your own physical, moral, mental & spiritual characteristics, & then back track to A & E.
---Leon on 11/27/14


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Are you talking about physical, moral, mental, or spiritual characteristics, Leon?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/27/14


Not thinking clearly, focusing, understanding what God says and sometimes setting aside what God says to go against it.
Submitting to the (evil) trial & error spirit (going contrary) instead of hanging on to what God says.
---Adetunji on 11/27/14


"Can you flesh out the characteristics of Adam and Eve that are common in each of us today? Yes.
"The lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life."
---joseph on 11/26/14


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